FEDERAL COURT OF AUSTRALIA Cubillo v Commonwealth [2000] FCA 1084 ABORIGINES – children –separation – whether forced or consensual – whether application of general policy without regard to individual circumstances EVIDENCE – demarcation between matters known to a judge personally and matters before a court formally as evidence – trial judge bound by evidence formally before the court – ability of a trial judge to accept part only of a witness' evidence – weight to attach to documentary evidence – application of the Briginshaw test to a non party witness – whether principles of Briginshaw have equal and like application to persons whether they are, or are not, parties to the litigation – rule in Jones v Dunkel – absence of witnesses claimed to be material witnesses – tendency evidence in civil trials – admissibility – s 97 Evidence Act 1995 (Cth) – whether risk of concoction WRONGFUL IMPRISONMENT – whether applicants detained – wrongful imprisonment and deprivation of liberty – whether detention unlawful – whether statutory powers exceeded – whether application of general policy without regard to individual circumstances STATUTORY DUTY – whether statutory duty arose – whether statute precluded duty arising – whether statute allowed recovery for breach of statutory duty NEGLIGENCE / DUTY OF CARE – whether duty owed – whether general duty of care owed in exercise of powers under welfare statutes – whether breach of duty EQUITY – fiduciary duty – guardianship – exercise of statutory powers over wards – whether Commonwealth owed and breached fiduciary duties to part Aboriginal people – psychiatric injury – defences – limitation statute not applying to equitable actions – limitation by analogy – laches VICARIOUS LIABILITY – liability of the Commonwealth – whether tortfeasor servant or agent of Commonwealth – application of independent discretion rule – whether chain of command or control – whether Commonwealth controlled the administration of Aboriginal affairs in the Northern Territory as part of its ordinary governmental functions – whether Director of Native Affairs or Welfare subject to the control of the Commonwealth through the Administrator in the performance of his functions DAMAGES – assessment of damages – loss of cultural, social and spiritual life – loss of entitlements and advantages under Aboriginal Land Rights (Northern Territory) Act 1976 (Cth) – mitigation – exemplary damages – whether conscious and contumelious disregard for welfare and rights of the applicants – wanton cruel and reckless indifference – aggravated damages LIMITATION OF ACTIONS – applications for extension of time – whether extensions should be granted – delay in bringing action – persons under disability – prejudice to the Commonwealth – hardship – whether material facts became known to the applicants The Constitution ss 49, 75(iii) Judiciary Act 1903 (Cth) s 44 Parliamentary Privileges Act 1987 (Cth) s 16 Rights of the Terminally Ill Act 1995 (NT) Medical Treatment (Amendment) Bill 1995 (ACT) Euthanasia Laws Act 1997 (Cth) Criminal Code (Qld) Criminal Law Consolidation Act 1935 (SA) s 82A Criminal Code (NT) s 174 Health Act 1911 (WA) s 334 Defence Act 1903 (Cth) s 61A Criminal Code (Tas) ss 122, 123 Human Rights (Sexual Conduct) Act 1994 (Cth) Family Law Act 1975 (Cth) Aboriginals Ordinance 1918 (NT) ss 3, 3A, 4, 5, 6, 6(1), 6(2), 7, 8, 13, 13(6), 16, 17 Aboriginals Ordinance 1911 (NT) Northern Territory Aboriginals Act 1910 (SA) Welfare Ordinance 1953 (NT) ss 8, 14, 17, 17(2), 24, 32, Northern Territory Acceptance Act 1910 (Cth) s 6(1) Northern Territory (Administration) Act 1910 (Cth) ss 4(1), 4(2), 13(1) Northern Territory (Administration) Act 1947 (Cth) s 4U Evidence Act 1995 (Cth) ss 55, 60, 73, 74, 97 Limitation of Suits and Actions Act 1866 (SA) Aboriginal Land Rights (Northern Territory) Act 1976 (Cth) s 23(3) Limitation of Actions Act 1936 (SA) s 48 Statutes Amendment (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1972 (SA) Limitation Act 1969 (NSW) ss 60E(1)(b), 60G, 60I(1) Welfare Regulations (NT) rr 12, 13, 14 Evidence Regulations 1995 (Cth) rr 6, 6(2) Cubillo v The Commonwealth (1999) 89 FCR 528 referred to Mace v Murray (1955) 92 CLR 370 cited Patrick Stevedores Operations No 2 Pty Ltd v Maritime Union of Australia (1998) 153 ALR 626 cited Kruger v The Commonwealth of Australia (1997) 190 CLR 1 followed In the Marriage of B and R (1994-1995) 19 Fam LR 594 cited Nulyarimma v Thompson (1999) 165 ALR 621 cited Williams v Minister, Aboriginal Land Rights Act 1983 & Anor [No 2] [1999] NSWSC 843 considered & distinguished Maloney v Commissioner for Railways (NSW) (1978) 52 ALJR 292 cited Cekan v Haines (1990) 21 NSWLR 296 cited Dublin, Wicklow & Wexford Railway Co v Slattery (1878) 3 App Cas 1155 cited Christmas v Nicol Bros. 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Note: Settlement and entry of orders is dealt with in Order 36 of the Federal Court Rules. IN THE FEDERAL COURT OF AUSTRALIA NORTHERN TERRITORY DISTRICT REGISTRY BETWEEN: PETER GUNNER DG 21 OF 1996 Applicant AND: COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA Respondent JUDGE: O'LOUGHLIN J DATE OF ORDER: 11 AUGUST 2000 WHERE MADE: DARWIN THE COURT ORDERS THAT: 1 The application for an extension of time under s 44(b) of the Limitation Act 1981 (NT) is refused and each claim is dismissed. 2 Any question of costs is reserved for further consideration. Note: Settlement and entry of orders is dealt with in Order 36 of the Federal Court Rules. Index An Introduction Paragraph No The Stolen Generation 1 – 5 Mrs Cubillo – an introduction 6 – 11 Mr Gunner – an introduction 12 – 14 The History of the Litigation 15 – 23 Witnesses for Mrs Cubillo 24 Witnesses for Mr Gunner 25 – 26 Witnesses for the Commonwealth 27 – 52 Deceased and Missing "witnesses" 53 – 63 Bringing Them Home 64 – 81 Changing Standards 82 – 105 The Commonwealth – an introduction 106 – 117 Accepting only part of the Evidence of a Witness 118 – 125 Documents 126 – 127 The Relevant Legislation 128 – 164 Policy Issues 165 – 190 The McEwen Policy of 1939 191 – 205 The Wave Hill incident and the Leydin Report 206 – 228 The Hon Paul Hasluck MP 229 – 259 The 1952 Policy – its end 260 – 262 The Milliken Tests 263 – 300 Was there an Indiscriminate Policy of Removal? 301 – 321 The Relationship between the Commonwealth and the Missions 322 – 345 The Briginshaw Test 346 – 352 The Rule in Jones v Dunkel 353 – 362 Lorna Nelson Cubillo and The Retta Dixon Home Lorna Nelson Cubillo and The Retta Dixon Home 363 – 409 The Phillip Creek Native Settlement 410 – 434 Phillip Creek to the Retta Dixon Home 435 – 457 The Four Tennant Creek Women 458 – 500 Who Removed the Children from Phillip Creek 501 – 511 The Retta Dixon Home 512 – 706 The Interview of Lorna Cubillo by Mai Katona 707 – 736 Peter Gunner and St Mary's Hostel Peter Gunner and St Mary's Hostel 737 – 891 Kevin Constable 892 – 940 Evidence of Sexual Impropriety 941 – 1075 Causes of Action Causes of Action 1076 – 1082 Vicarious Liability 1083 – 1133 The Institutions as Agents of the Commonwealth 1134 – 1142 False Imprisonment 1143 – 1174 Statutory Duty 1175 – 1193 Duty of Care 1194 – 1269 Fiduciary Duty 1270 – 1307 Extension of Time 1308 – 1425 Laches 1426 – 1434 Psychiatric Evidence 1435 – 1485 Damages 1486 – 1532 Damages – Conclusion 1533 – 1547 Exemplary Damages 1548 – 1559 Conclusion 1560 – 1565 Schedule Pages 674 – 677 IN THE FEDERAL COURT OF AUSTRALIA NORTHERN TERRITORY DISTRICT REGISTRY BETWEEN: LORNA CUBILLO DG 14 OF 1996 Applicant AND: COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA Respondent BETWEEN: PETER GUNNER DG 21 OF 1996 Applicant AND: COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA Respondent JUDGE: O'LOUGHLIN J DATE: 11 AUGUST 2000 PLACE: DARWIN REASONS FOR JUDGMENT The Stolen Generation 1 The applicants, Mrs Lorna Cubillo and Mr Peter Gunner, are said to be members of "the Stolen Generation". That is the term that has been widely used to refer to the former practice of taking part Aboriginal children from their families and placing them in missions or institutions. Mrs Cubillo has claimed that in 1947 she and fifteen other children were forcibly removed by servants or agents of the respondent from the Phillip Creek Native Settlement and thereafter detained in the Retta Dixon Home in Darwin. Mr Gunner has claimed that in 1956 he was forcibly removed by servants or agents of the respondent from Utopia Station and thereafter detained in St Mary's Hostel in Alice Springs. The applicants have instituted proceedings against the respondent, the Commonwealth of Australia ("the Commonwealth"), alleging that it is the party which bears the legal responsibility for the injuries and damages that they have suffered as a result of their removal and detention. Their claims for compensation have been rejected by the Commonwealth. 2 The opening statement in the closing submissions of counsel for the applicants laid out the base upon which these proceedings were fought: "These cases concern great injustice done by the Commonwealth of Australia to two of its citizens. By the actions of the Commonwealth, Lorna Cubillo and Peter Gunner were removed as young children from their families and communities. They were taken hundreds of kilometres from the countries of their birth. They were prevented from returning. They were made to live among strangers, in a strange place, in institutions which bore no resemblance to a home. They lost, by the actions of the Commonwealth, the chance to grow among the warmth of their own people, speaking their people's languages and learning about their country. They suffered lasting psychiatric injury. They were treated as orphans when they were not orphans. They lost the culture and traditions of their families. Decades later, the Commonwealth of Australia says in this case that it did them no wrong at all." 3 Neither the evidence in this trial, nor these reasons for judgment, deny the existence of "the Stolen Generation". Writings, both contemporary and historical, (not all of which were presented as evidence in this trial) tell tragically of a distressing past. Many would take it for granted that "the Stolen Generation" is a catch phrase that truly describes what happened to many part Aboriginal children for many years. But this trial has focussed primarily on the personal histories of two people: Lorna Cubillo and Peter Gunner. Material was placed before the Court that addressed the policies of the Commonwealth Government since the turn of the twentieth century. Ministerial statements and the writings of senior public servants and others were received into evidence on the same subject. However, whilst in no way diminishing their importance, it remains the fact that they were, for the most part, aids in the understanding of the personal circumstances of the two applicants. 4 There were excursions into the lives of some other part Aboriginal men and women and I will mention them later in these reasons. But the matter of importance is to stress that the lives of Lorna Cubillo and Peter Gunner must not be treated as symptomatic of the lives of all part Aboriginal children in the 1940s and the 1950s. Indeed the evidence showed that their separate circumstances were quite different. It is said that many hundreds, perhaps thousands, of part Aboriginal people have instituted like proceedings against the Commonwealth and that this number may only be some of those who had been institutionalised as children. However, putting Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner to one side, only eight of those came forth as witnesses for the applicants; and four of them conceded in cross-examination that they had been placed in the institution at the request of their parents. 5 Then there was the case for the Commonwealth: three of its witnesses, who as part Aboriginal children, were placed in institutions, gave evidence saying how pleased they were that they had had the opportunity of a western education. Furthermore, the evidence in this trial was limited to events that occurred in the Northern Territory of Australia; no evidence was placed before the Court concerning "the Stolen Generation" in the States. This brief summary should be sufficient, without more, to explain why the evidence in this trial cannot be used as a base to examine the breadth of the term "the Stolen Generation". The evidence showed that broad generalisations cannot be made. In particular, the mere fact that a part Aboriginal child was placed in an institution does not, without more, justify that person claiming that he or she is a member of "the Stolen Generation". In every case it will be necessary to question why was the child institutionalised? Who was responsible? And was it necessary or desirable in the interests of the child? Many of the official writings and other papers that were tendered during the course of the trial will require scrutiny but, in general, it can be said that the official writings during the periods that were relevant to Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner, while strongly favouring a policy of assimilation, claimed to do so upon the premise that it was in the best interests of the child. That was a view that was propounded by many people who were called as witnesses for the Commonwealth. They claimed that there was no general policy of forced institutionalisation of part Aboriginal children in their time. They claimed that, unless it was a case of neglect or harm, no child was removed without the consent of his or her mother. But those witnesses were also few in number. Whilst none of them gave me any reason to doubt their honesty, I cannot regard their evidence as being any stronger than their personal experiences. Mrs Cubillo – an introduction 6 Mrs Cubillo, as a child, was known as Lorna Nelson and her tribal name was Napanangka. According to her birth certificate, she was born on 8 August 1938 and that is the date of her birth as pleaded in sub par 1(h) of her further amended statement of claim. 7 Mrs Cubillo said that the earliest memories of her childhood were of Banka Banka Station, a cattle property that was then operated by Mr Ted Ward and his wife Mary. In circumstances that were challenged by the Commonwealth, Mrs Cubillo claimed that at some stage (probably in the early 1940s) a patrol officer, Bill Harney, and his assistant, Barney McGinness, took her away, forcibly, from her grandmother's care at Banka Banka and placed her with the Aboriginal community in the ration depot at Seven Mile Creek (which was also known as "the Telegraph Station"). Unfortunately, both Mr Harney and Mr McGinness are dead, as is Mrs Cubillo's grandmother; so also are Mr and Mrs Ward. No one else has been identified as a person who could have given evidence about the circumstances of her removal and no documentary evidence addressed the subject. 8 Not long after Lorna's removal to Seven Mile Creek, the Aboriginal community was moved to a new depot at Six Mile Creek. That occurred in late 1942 when Lorna would have been about four years of age. Both depots were north-east of Tennant Creek. To get to Six Mile Creek, one drives north on the Stuart Highway from Tennant Creek for about ten kilometres (or seven miles) to "the Telegraph Station" which is just off the highway – about 100 metres or so to the east. The new depot at Six Mile Creek lay about ten kilometres (or six miles) due east of "the Telegraph Station" on a rough bush track. The Court viewed the location of the depot at Six Mile Creek but little remains to give any idea of what it might have looked like over fifty years ago. When Lorna was living at the two depots, they were managed for a time by Mr William Arnold ("Arnold") Long and his wife, Dorothy; at another stage, a Mr Jim Davy was the manager; all were missionaries working with an interdenominational body called the Aborigines Inland Mission of Australia ("the Aborigines Inland Mission"). All are now dead, Mrs Long having died as recently as 8 June 1997. 9 Towards the end of the Second World War, it became apparent that the water supply at the depot at Six Mile Creek was inadequate. As a result, in about August or September 1945, the ration depot was moved to a new location on the banks of Phillip Creek, adjacent to the Manga-Manda Waterhole. The Phillip Creek Settlement was north of Tennant Creek, near the Stuart Highway and about forty miles to the south of Banka Banka Station. Lorna and all the other people who were living at the depot at Six Mile Creek were moved to the new location at Phillip Creek. 10 Mrs Cubillo was one of sixteen part Aboriginal children who, in 1947, were taken by truck from the Phillip Creek Settlement to the Retta Dixon Home in Darwin. The Settlement and the Home were both then conducted under the auspices of the Aborigines Inland Mission and Mr Ivor Thomas, a missionary, was the Superintendent at the Settlement at that time. Miss Amelia Shankelton, who was the Superintendent of the Retta Dixon Home, had a significant part to play in the removal of the children and Mr Les Penhall, then a cadet patrol officer and an officer of the Northern Territory Administration, who gave evidence in the trial on behalf of the Commonwealth, drove the truck that carried the children to Darwin. Lorna remained an inmate of the Retta Dixon Home until she turned eighteen in 1956. 11 Mrs Cubillo gave evidence, at times in graphic detail, about the harshness and lack of affection that she and others allegedly suffered at the Retta Dixon Home at the hands of Miss Shankelton and two of her co-missionaries, Ms Dinham and Ms Spohn. Those three women are dead and cannot now defend themselves or their institution. She also made very serious accusations against Mr Des Walter, one of the male missionaries at the Home. He is alive and he gave evidence on behalf of the Commonwealth. He denied the many allegations that were levelled against him by Mrs Cubillo. Mr Gunner – an introduction 12 Mr Gunner's background was not connected in any way with Mrs Cubillo's. He was born at or near the cattle station known as Utopia Station and, as a small child, came to the notice of a patrol officer, Ted Evans. Later, he came to the notice of another patrol officer, Harry Kitching. Mr Kitching recommended that Peter be removed to an institution if his mother, Topsy Kundrilba would give her consent. The Commonwealth's case is that her consent was given. Peter was admitted to St Mary's Hostel in Alice Springs on 24 May 1956. St Mary's was conducted as a Hostel for part Aboriginal children by the Australian Board of Missions under the auspices of the Anglican Church. Mr Gunner claimed that his removal was forced on him by the Commonwealth against his wishes and those of his mother. 13 Mr Kitching and Mrs Dora McLeod, who, with her late husband, owned the lease of Utopia Station in the 1950s, gave evidence for the Commonwealth, but their memories were impaired through age and infirmity. Neither could speak with conviction about the circumstances of Peter's removal from the Station. Two elderly Aboriginal witnesses, Mr Johnny Skinner and Mrs Lena Pula, who were living at Utopia when Peter was taken to St Mary's, gave evidence on his behalf. Mr Skinner supported the claim that Peter was forcibly removed by patrol officers but Mrs Pula was not present on the day that Peter left Utopia and therefore could not speak about the circumstances of his removal. 14 Mr Gunner's complaints about the manner in which he was treated at St Mary's were numerous. But the most alarming complaint was his allegation that he had been sexually molested by Mr Kevin Constable, one of the missionaries. Four other young boys, now men in their fifties, also gave evidence that, at some stage while they were resident at St Mary's, they were molested, either by Mr Constable or by another missionary, Mr Malcolm Bald. The four witnesses were Daniel Forrester, Stanley Scrutton, Wally Gardiner and a man whose name was suppressed from publication and to whom I shall refer as GK. Mr Bald died as recently as 25 January 1998, but Mr Constable gave evidence for the Commonwealth. He denied all accusations of impropriety. The History of the Litigation 15 Each of these matters was separately commenced by writ and statement of claim in the High Court of Australia. The proceedings in the name of Mrs Cubillo were filed on 30 October 1996 and those in Mr Gunner's name were filed a day later on 31 October. As the Commonwealth was the respondent in both actions, the matters were within the original jurisdiction of that Court: s 75(iii) of The Constitution. However, with the consent of all parties, further proceedings were remitted by the High Court to the Federal Court of Australia by orders made a month or so later on 26 November, pursuant to s 44 of the Judiciary Act 1903 (Cth). When the separate trials were called on for hearing, the parties consented to orders that they be heard together. It was also agreed that the evidence in one matter would, so far as it may be applicable, be evidence in the other. 16 Following upon the filing and serving of the two statements of claim, defences were filed in both actions on 21 February 1997 and amended defences were filed three weeks later on 14 March; replies were filed a week after that. In October 1997, the applicant in each matter filed an amended statement of claim; that caused the Commonwealth to file further amended defences on 7 November 1997. The parties thereafter engaged in some disputes about the sufficiency of the particulars in the pleadings and further and better particulars of the statements of claim and discovery were attended to during February 1998. The applicants filed further amended statements of claim on 17 May 1999 and the respondent further amended defences on 4 June 1999. Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner have claimed that their respective removals and detentions constituted "wrongful imprisonment and deprivation of liberty". That claim was the first of four alleged causes of action against the Commonwealth. The remaining causes of action were said to be breaches of statutory duty, of fiduciary duty and of a general duty of care. General damages, allegedly arising from mental and emotional distress and a post traumatic stress syndrome, were claimed in each case. There were also claims for aggravated and exemplary damages. In par 44 of Mrs Cubillo's further amended statement of claim it was pleaded that: "In the removal and detention of the Applicant the Respondent acted with a conscious and contumelious disregard for the welfare and rights of the Applicant or with a wanton cruel and reckless indifference to her welfare and rights, thereby causing the Applicant substantial distress, humiliation and injury to her feelings, and the Applicant is entitled to aggravated or exemplary damages." The same plea appeared in par 65 of Mr Gunner's further amended statement of claim. 17 Many allegations that were originally made by the applicants in their pleadings were withdrawn during the course of the trial. That was not one of them. On the first day and the last day of the trial the applicants were pursuing the same goal. They set themselves the task of proving that a sovereign State acted with a "conscious and contumelious disregard for the welfare and the rights" of two small part Aboriginal children by forcibly separating them from their families against the wishes of their families. Their alternative plea was that the Commonwealth acted with a "wanton cruel and reckless indifference" to their welfare and their rights. 18 An important directions hearing took place on Thursday, 12 March 1998. On that day counsel for the Commonwealth advised the Court that his instructions would be to move the Court, in due course, for orders which would include orders for the summary dismissal of both actions. Based on that advice, the following directions were given in the two actions: "(3) In anticipation that the Commonwealth will file and serve a notice of motion seeking orders which include at least an order for summary dismissal, I list such a notice of motion for hearing in a venue to be advised on Monday 3 August 1998 at 10.15 am and set aside 5 days. (4) Order (3) is conditional upon the Commonwealth filing and serving its notice of motion and all supporting material by Friday 12 June. (5) The applicants if so advised shall file and serve any answering material by Friday 24 July. (6) Leave to the Commonwealth to file and serve answering material by Friday 31 July. (7) Both parties to file written submissions by Friday 31 July. (8) Any party may file and serve any other notice of motion with supporting material seeking any other order of an interlocutory nature as it may be so advised, but if any such notice of motion is filed it shall be filed and served, together with all material in support of the orders sought in time sufficient having regard to the provisions of the Rules of Court, to be returnable for argument on Monday 3 August." On the same date, 12 March 1998, allowance was made for the fact that the substantive trials might proceed. Each was therefore listed to be called on for hearing on 1 March 1999 and three months were set aside for the hearings. 19 In due course, the Commonwealth filed a notice of motion seeking orders of summary dismissal; however, it was accompanied by an affidavit in support of an order that the interlocutory hearing that had been listed to commence on Monday 3 August 1998 be vacated. That affidavit was dated 5 June and was sworn by Michael Charles Cullen, a solicitor in the Office of Litigation in the employ of the Australian Government Solicitor. Mr Cullen said that the Commonwealth now sought orders that the evidence of six nominated persons, all of whom were identified as intended witnesses in the Commonwealth's defence, be taken prior to trial and that the week of 3 August 1998 be utilised for that purpose. In a letter to the Court dated 3 June 1998, a copy of which was forwarded to the solicitors for the applicants and a copy of which was annexed to Mr Cullen's affidavit, he had said: "8. Some important witnesses to the respondent's defence are of a considerable age and frailty. They range in age from 75 to 92. I am advised by counsel that it is incumbent upon the respondent to do what it can to preserve this evidence before pressing its case that the respondent has been prejudiced by reason of the delay in bringing these actions. If the parties were to proceed on 3 August 1998 with the application for summary dismissal and any application for extension of the limitation period then, with possible appeals, it might be 12 months or longer before evidence is taken in the proceedings. In these circumstances it is highly likely that the evidence of these frail witnesses would be lost. 9. For the reasons above, the respondent wishes to apply to the Court to: (a) vacate the timetable set on 12 March 1998 in relation to the hearing in the week commencing 3 August 1998; and (b) take the evidence of the more frail of the respondent's witnesses in the week commencing 3 August 1998." 20 The solicitors for the applicant did not agree with the Commonwealth's proposal but the Court acceded to it. The six intended witnesses who had been named in Mr Cullen's affidavit were Sister Eileen Heath, Mr Harry Kitching, Mrs Dorothy Bott, Mrs Eileen Barrett, Mr Ted Milliken and Mr Harry Giese. In the events that transpired, Sister Eileen's evidence was taken in Perth and Mr Kitching's evidence was taken in Townsville during the week of 3 August 1998. Sister Eileen was the founding Superintendent of St Mary's Hostel for part Aboriginal children in Alice Springs; Mr Kitching was, as I have already indicated, a patrol officer with the Native Affairs Branch and was closely involved in the arrangements to have Mr Gunner placed in St Mary's Hostel. It had been intended to take Mrs Bott's evidence in Townsville also, but her health did not permit it and, sadly, she died not long after on 1 September 1998. Mrs Bott's late husband, Archdeacon Bott, had been a one time Superintendent of St Mary's Hostel. No attempt was made by the Commonwealth to obtain the evidence of Mrs Barrett nor of Messrs Milliken and Giese and no explanation was offered for this apparent change in position, although it subsequently transpired (in October 1999) that medical evidence was led by the Commonwealth to the effect that Mr Giese's state of health was such that it would be inappropriate for him to be called as a witness. I accepted that medical evidence. Mr Milliken was duly called as a witness for the Commonwealth in the trial but nothing further was heard about Mrs Barrett until very late in the trial when the Court was informed that the Commonwealth did not then "rate her" as important. 21 As a result of the decision to utilise the week of 3 August 1998 in taking evidence, the orders of 12 March were vacated and, in lieu, it was ordered that the orders sought by the Commonwealth in its notice of motion would be the subject of argument in March 1999 immediately following the conclusion of the opening addresses of counsel for the applicants and the Commonwealth. 22 On 1 March 1999, both cases were called on for hearing in Darwin. Mr Rush QC, assisted by Mr Dreyfus QC and Ms Richards appeared for both applicants; Mr Dreyfus had, by then, replaced Mr Keon-Cohen QC who had earlier appeared for the applicants during the week of Monday 3 August 1998. Mr Meagher QC, together with Ms Hollingworth, Dr Perry and Ms Beaton-Wells appeared for the Commonwealth. Mr Rush QC opened his case for the applicants; thereafter Mr Meagher QC opened for the Commonwealth and, upon the conclusion of his opening, moved the Court for the orders in the notice of motion that have earlier been identified in these reasons. 23 On 30 April 1999, the Court dismissed the Commonwealth's application for summary judgment: Cubillo v The Commonwealth (1999) 89 FCR 528 ("the interlocutory judgment") and the trial resumed in Darwin on 10 August 1999. To accommodate the convenience of witnesses, the Court heard evidence in Darwin and then moved to Tennant Creek, Alice Springs and Melbourne before concluding evidence in Darwin; final submissions, due to the consideration of counsel for which I am most grateful, were heard in Adelaide. The last of the oral submissions were made on 31 March 2000 and the last of the written submissions were received on 10 May 2000. Witnesses for Mrs Cubillo 24 Mrs Cubillo's witnesses can be divided into four groups. First, there was the evidence of four elderly Aboriginal women, Kathleen Napanangka, her sister Eileen Napanangka, Bunny Napurrula and her sister Annie Napurrula. Their evidence was directed, in the main, to the circumstances of the removal of the group of part Aboriginal children (of whom the young Lorna Nelson was one) from the Phillip Creek Native Settlement to the Retta Dixon Home. The last three were living at the Phillip Creek Settlement at the time and each gave evidence of her memories of the day when the children were taken away; the first of them, Kathleen Napanangka, was living with her husband at Banka Banka Station, where he was employed as the head stockman. Secondly, there were the two witnesses, Mr James ("Jimmy") Anderson and Mr William ("Willy") Lane, who, like Mrs Cubillo, were children who were removed from Phillip Creek and taken, with her, to the Retta Dixon Home. Thirdly, there was the evidence of Mrs Mai Katona and Mrs Maxine Hill. Neither of them was a Phillip Creek child but they were both inmates of the Retta Dixon Home when Mrs Cubillo was there. The fourth group consisted of expert witnesses. Dr McGrath, an historian, gave evidence about community standards, as they existed in the 1940s and 1950s, in relation to the removal of part Aboriginal children from their mothers. Her evidence was also relevant to Mr Gunner's claim. The remaining expert witnesses were Ms Petronella Vaarzon-Morel, an anthropologist, Drs Waters and Gibney, psychiatrists, and Mr David Avery, a legal practitioner in the employ of the Central Land Council. Mr Avery's evidence was also relevant to Mr Gunner's claim as was the evidence of Dr Waters. Witnesses for Mr Gunner 25 I have already introduced Mr Gunner's first two witnesses, Mr Skinner and Mrs Pula; they told of aspects of his life as a child at Utopia Station. Next there were four witnesses who, as boys, were inmates at St Mary's Hostel at the same time as Mr Gunner; they told that they, like him, had been sexually molested by a member of the staff at St Mary's. Mr Gunner also called a former senior officer in the Welfare Branch of the Northern Territory Administration, Mr Reg Worthy. Mr Worthy, who was exceptionally critical of St Mary's, was born on 5 August 1920; he was seventy-nine years of age when he gave evidence in these proceedings. After obtaining a diploma, following a two year course of studies at the Melbourne Bible Institute, he joined the YMCA as a welfare officer with the second AIF; he was discharged from the Army on medical grounds in 1943 and resumed civilian life with the YMCA, working in Victoria at the Brunswick Youth Centre. He combined his work commitments with further studies at the Melbourne University obtaining first, a Diploma in Social Studies and, later, a Bachelor of Arts. He progressed to the position of a probation and parole officer in Victoria and from there he was appointed, in July 1962, to the position of Administrative officer, General Welfare in the Welfare Branch of the Northern Territory Administration. Mr Worthy remained in that position until December 1965 when he returned to Melbourne to become a social worker with the Commonwealth Department of Social Services. In 1968, Mr Worthy was appointed the director of the newly formed Victorian Department of Aboriginal Affairs; in 1974, when the Commonwealth entered that field, he became a regional director in the Commonwealth Department, retiring as a regional director in 1978. When Mr Worthy arrived in Darwin in 1962, Lorna Nelson had left the Retta Dixon Home but Peter Gunner was still residing at St Mary's Hostel. Mr HC ("Harry") Giese was the Director of Welfare and Mr Ted Milliken was the Assistant Director. Mr Les Penhall was the Assistant Director Southern Division stationed at Alice Springs; Mr Billy McCoy was also at Alice Springs as were Sister Eileen Heath and Mrs Rene Ballagh in their capacity as welfare officers. 26 Mr Gunner's next witness was Mrs Wonka. She remembered him from her school days at the Hartley Street School at Alice Springs. She had been a student at the same time as Peter. Mr Gunner's remaining witnesses were Dr Morton, an anthropologist and Dr Phillips, a psychiatrist. Witnesses for the Commonwealth 27 The witnesses for the Commonwealth can be divided into three groups. The evidence of the first group concentrated on Mrs Cubillo or the Retta Dixon Home while the evidence of the second group was limited to Mr Gunner or St Mary's Hostel. The remaining group, comprising mostly former patrol officers and other employees of the Native Affairs Branch or its successor, the Welfare Branch, gave evidence that had relevance and general application to the claims of both applicants. 28 The calibre of the former officers of the Native Affairs Branch and the Welfare Branch who gave evidence in this trial was exceptionally high. Many of them were highly educated and many subsequently achieved high postings in Government in later life. Their achievements are noted later in these reasons. My reason for mentioning this factor is to identify them as people of intelligence and experience who might be expected to have knowledge and awareness of the policies that existed in relation to Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people and the manner in which those policies were implemented. As the summaries of their evidence will reveal, all of them denied the existence of a general or widespread policy of removal of part Aboriginal children and most of them insisted that no child was removed without the consent of the mother of that child. 29 Witnesses whose evidence related to Mrs Cubillo or the Retta Dixon Home included the Reverend Egerton Long who was the Director of the Aborigines Inland Mission from November 1953 to December 1972. In that capacity he visited Darwin and the Retta Dixon Home from his base in Sydney from time to time. Sister Jean Johnson and Mrs Chrissy Treloar (nee South) had both, at different times, been carers for the children at the Retta Dixon Home. Mrs Marjorie Harris had been, at one stage, a part Aboriginal missionary at the Retta Dixon Home whilst Mrs Ruby Matthews, another part Aboriginal woman, had been an inmate of the Home. Mrs Mamie Moy (whose former married name was Merlin) had been a welfare officer working in Darwin in the Welfare Branch of the Northern Territory Administration from 1955 to 1962. Her work brought her into contact with the Retta Dixon Home. Long after her association with Darwin ceased, she met and married Mr Frank Moy, who, coincidentally, had been the Director of Native Affairs in Darwin from 1946 to 1953. To avoid confusion, I will refer to her throughout these reasons as Mrs Moy. 30 The next witness who must be mentioned was Mr Les Penhall. Much of his evidence concerned the work of the patrol officers but he played a significant role, as the driver of the truck, when the part Aboriginal children were taken from the Settlement at Phillip Creek. Finally, there was Mr Des Walter, a former missionary at the Retta Dixon Home and the man who Mrs Cubillo accused of savagely beating her. 31 I turn now to the second group of witnesses whose evidence was primarily directed towards Peter Gunner and St Mary's Hostel. First, there was the man of the same name, Peter Gunner, who accepted that he was Mr Gunner's father. Unfortunately, due to age and infirmity, Mrs McLeod's memory was very confused and I was not able to rely on her evidence, except for the contents of her diaries. Mr Kitching, like Mrs McLeod, also had a very poor memory of events and his evidence was not as helpful as it might have been. Mrs Kunoth-Monks is a part Aboriginal woman who has had a very successful life both in western terms as well as in Aboriginal affairs. She resided in St Mary's Hostel before Mr Gunner's time. She is an example of a former inmate who was placed in the Hostel by her parents so that she might gain a western education. Sister Eileen Heath is the next witness mentioned; she founded St Mary's Hostel but left it at the end of 1955 to become a welfare officer in the Northern Territory Administration. Peter Gunner went to the Hostel in May 1956. Colin Leslie Steep was born on 7 January 1925; he was seventy-four years of age at the time when he gave his evidence in this trial. He is an Anglican clergyman, presently following his vocation as an assistant minister in a parish in New South Wales. Mr Steep said that he joined the Church Army, an organisation within the Anglican Church in 1946, at which point he would have been aged about twenty-one. He said that he then trained for two years to be an Evangelist, successfully completing his studies and being commissioned as an officer-evangelist in November 1947. He was thereafter generally known as Captain Steep. Mr Steep married in December 1953 and his wife joined him in his parochial duties in the New South Wales outback; previously, he had spent most of his time performing mission work throughout Victoria. His parish duties brought him into reasonably regular contact with part Aboriginal people who were among his parishioners. His duties, then as a lay minister, included meeting with those people in their homes where he would hold religious services. 32 Captain Steep believed that his work among his parishioners gave him the opportunity to form good working relations with the part Aboriginal people who, so he said, "were very keen for their children to be educated". In November 1955, Captain Steep was offered the opportunity by the head of the Church Army to take up the position of Warden at St Mary's; the offer included the proposition that his wife assume the role of Matron. Mrs Steep, who also gave evidence for the Commonwealth, had training in mothercraft and kindergarten teaching. When they arrived at St Mary's in January 1956 she had one little girl and a second was born not long after. Two more girls followed in 1958 and 1959. As Matron, Mrs Steep had a supervisory role over other members of the staff as well as looking after the girls in the dormitories. The Steeps resigned their positions in St Mary's in 1959. 33 Captain Steep was succeeded as Warden by Mr Harold Bennier. Mr Bennier is dead, but his wife, Laurel gave evidence on behalf of the Commonwealth. The Benniers were only at St Mary's Hostel for about eighteen months. They arrived shortly after the Steeps left in November 1959 and resigned in May 1961. Mr William Wilson was a school teacher at the Hartley Street school in Alice Springs in 1957 and 1958. Although he had no recollection of Peter Gunner, Mr Wilson taught at the school at a time when Mr Gunner would have attended as a student. 34 Mr Leslie Wilson was, at the time of Mr Gunner's removal from Utopia, the Superintendent of the Bungalow Settlement in Alice Springs. The Bungalow was a Settlement for Aboriginal people who were visiting Alice Springs for a variety of reasons. There was evidence in the trial that Peter was taken to the Bungalow from Utopia before going to St Mary's. Mr Les Wilson had spent some thirty years with the Native Affairs Branch, first as a stockman at Haasts Bluff and later as a Superintendent of Native Settlements at various places, including Haasts Bluff, Yuendumu, the Bungalow at Alice Springs, and Bagot Reserve at Darwin. As I have already indicated, Mr Kevin Constable gave evidence in which he denied the allegations of sexual impropriety. His wife, who had also worked at St Mary's, gave evidence too. Next, the Commonwealth called Mr Geoffrey Kelly. Mr Kelly is a private investigator whose firm had been engaged by the Commonwealth to locate potential witnesses for the trial. He and members of his staff, including a Miss Kathy Chase, investigated the applicants' claims and interviewed witnesses and potential witnesses. Mr Kelly was called to give evidence about the circumstances surrounding his interviews with Mrs Dora McLeod and his involvement in the preparation of an affidavit that she swore for the purposes of these proceedings – as I do not intend to rely on the contents of Mrs McLeod's affidavit or her oral evidence, I do not find it necessary to examine Mr Kelly's evidence. 35 The remaining witnesses fell into the third group to which I have referred. First of all, there were three former patrol officers: Mr Creed Lovegrove, Mr Jeremy Long and Mr Colin MacLeod. 36 Mr Creed Lovegrove was seventy-two years of age when he gave evidence on behalf of the Commonwealth in this trial. Even though he did not know either Mrs Cubillo or Mr Gunner as children, it was his work as a patrol officer in the 1950s that was of interest and his evidence on that subject was of assistance to the Court. After completing his secondary schooling at a boarding college in Adelaide, Mr Lovegrove returned to the Territory and obtained clerical employment and then work as a chainman on a survey gang with the Northern Territory Administration. Whilst engaging in survey work, he met Mr EC (Ted) Evans, then a patrol officer with the Native Affairs Branch, and a lifelong friendship followed. Mr Evans, who let the young Mr Lovegrove accompany him on short, weekend patrols over a period of twelve to eighteen months, was responsible for Mr Lovegrove ultimately becoming a cadet patrol officer in 1951. Mr Lovegrove's first patrol was under the tutelage of Mr Evans; they spent about three months in the Victoria River district. Thereafter, he worked alone as a patrol officer or as the officer in charge of an Aboriginal Settlement in and about the Darwin area until he was posted to the Alice Springs Branch in mid 1953. Other patrol officers who were based at Alice Springs while Mr Lovegrove was there included Harry Kitching, Billy McCoy, Brian Greenfield and George Holden. Ted Evans was then the District Superintendent at Alice Springs. 37 Mr Lovegrove was stationed at Alice Springs for about two years. During that time, most of his patrols were to the west of the Stuart Highway. As a result, he never visited Utopia Station, although he did subsequently visit it in the late 1960s and again in the late 1970s. In 1955, Mr Lovegrove was posted to Elliott as a patrol officer; he took over from Les Penhall. From that base, his duties required him to carry out inspections of the cattle stations on the Barkly Tablelands and in the Borroloola area. While he was stationed at Elliott, Mr Lovegrove, along with other patrol officers in other locations, had to carry out a census of full blood Aboriginals so that a Register of wards could be compiled to comply with the requirements of the new Welfare Ordinance 1953 (NT). 38 After his posting at Elliott, Mr Lovegrove was appointed, in 1957, Superintendent of the Bagot Native Settlement in Darwin. Whilst at Bagot, he got to know some of the staff at Retta Dixon, including Miss Shankelton, but it is clear from his evidence that his contact was not, in any sense, official or formal. As he described it, the contact was "neighbourly". By this time, Lorna Nelson had already left the Retta Dixon Home. After Bagot, Mr Lovegrove was appointed, in 1958, Superintendent of the newly established Warrabri Settlement (now called Ali Curung). Mr Lovegrove described Warrabri as "the first big full-blood settlement" to cope with the new policy of assimilation, the policy which he described as "the policy of providing a full education for Aboriginal children and training for older people". In describing it, Mr Lovegrove talked of "a whole new settlement. [Y]ou know, buildings, water supply, schools, hospital – all that sort of thing". Mr Lovegrove said that the Settlement was about 100 miles south of Tennant Creek and on the eastern side of the Stuart Highway. It was peopled by members of the Warumungu and the Warlpiri who had previously been located at Phillip Creek. These events, of which he was talking, would have occurred some eleven years after the removal of Lorna Nelson and the other part Aboriginal children from Phillip Creek. According to Mr Lovegrove, he estimated that there would have been about 500 Aborigines at Warrabri and a white population of twenty to thirty people. 39 After his time as Superintendent at Warrabri, and another year as Superintendent at Bagot, Mr Lovegrove was appointed the Acting District Welfare Officer in Darwin. This was sometime in 1961. Mr Lovegrove was uncertain whether his duties at that time included the Retta Dixon Home. His uncertainty was caused because, as he said, changes were occurring in 1961: the Welfare Branch was being reorganised and professional social workers were being employed. Mr Lovegrove named the welfare officers who worked in Darwin under his supervision at that time. One of them was Mrs Mamie Merlin, who I have earlier identified as Mrs Moy. From 1963 to 1968 Mr Lovegrove was the District Welfare Officer at Alice Springs. Whilst he was there, Sister Eileen and Mrs Ballagh worked as welfare officers under his supervision; he was then promoted to Assistant Director, Southern Division and in 1971 became the Chief Welfare Officer in Darwin. At that level, his duties included responsibility for patrol officers, including their training, and liaising with other administrative departments. From 1973 to 1977 he was Director of Aboriginal Affairs for the Northern Territory and, as such, a member of the Northern Territory Legislative Council and the Administrator's Council. In 1977 he accepted a secondment to the Northern Territory Government and took up the office of Deputy Director-General of the Department of the Chief Minister, a position that he held until 1982. There then followed appointments as Secretary of the Northern Territory Department of Mines and Energy and Chairman of the Committee for the Constitutional Development of the Northern Territory. Mr Lovegrove was awarded an MBE for his work in the Advancement of Aboriginal Welfare. 40 In the course of describing the duties of a patrol officer, Mr Lovegrove made the comment that the officers often faced a "hostile environment". The patrol officers had to inspect the cattle stations; this meant checking that correct wages were paid to the Aboriginal employees, checking that proper facilities were provided for them, checking that the stations were making correct claims for subsidised payments and generally acting in a manner that some pastoralists regarded as intrusive. As Mr Lovegrove said: "We were often referred to in the pastoral areas as brolgas, which meant native companions." He went on to explain that it was meant as a derogatory remark but he added "most patrol officers wore that brand with a great deal of pride actually". I have taken time to recount this passage in Mr Lovegrove's evidence because it typifies the man. As he gave his evidence and as I had the chance to listen to him and observe him, I came to realise that I was listening to a man who had dedicated the greater part of his working life to the betterment of the Aboriginal people. I am happy to accept his evidence, without qualification, as his personal experience, understanding and perception on matters of both policy and practice. 41 Mr Lovegrove said that he has had a close association with Aboriginal people virtually since his birth. His father had been a policeman in the Territory and, because of that, Mr Lovegrove and grown up with the Aboriginal trackers; he also gave instances of his friendships, as a young boy, with Aboriginal children. He understood the love and affection that Aboriginal people gave to their children and he knew that, through the kinship system, that love and affection extended to uncles, aunts and grandparents. He also knew of the importance of land to Aboriginal people and he knew of the distress and emotion that had been caused by the removal of part Aboriginal children from their mothers. It was his evidence that he never, as a patrol officer, took a child away; he had only read accounts of children's removals. 42 Mr Jeremy Long was born in 1932 and was aged sixty-seven at the time when he gave his evidence. He was educated at the University of Sydney where he obtained a Bachelor of Arts with honours majoring in history. As part of his course, he completed two years of study in anthropology. In January 1955, he commenced work, under Mr Giese, as a graduate clerk in the Welfare Branch of the Northern Territory Administration in Darwin. At that time, Mr Milliken was the Assistant Director of Welfare. Later in 1955, Mr Long became a cadet patrol officer; he was posted to Alice Springs where he initially worked under the supervision of patrol officer George Holden. In 1956, he attended and completed the twelve month course at the Australian School of Pacific Administration, returning to Alice Springs to continue working as a cadet patrol officer. At that time, Sister Eileen and Mrs Ballagh were welfare officers, working out of the Alice Springs office. 43 Mr Long was promoted to patrol officer and later, in 1958, he was appointed Superintendent of the Haasts Bluff Settlement. After a period in Canberra as a ministerial private secretary, Mr Long returned to Darwin in 1960 where he was engaged in work as a research officer in the Welfare Branch. His particular task was to examine the "social situation of Aboriginal people". Mr Long continued his research work until 1968 when he was transferred to the Department of the Interior in Canberra. In that intervening period he visited remote Aboriginal communities, studying the demographic situation and making predictions about population growth and the needs of the communities. In 1966, he, together with Mr Ted Evans, received from the Royal Geographical Society in London, the Mrs Patrick Ness Award for investigations among Aboriginals living in remote desert areas of Central Australia. Based on his research, he published articles in journals on aspects of the social and cultural changes among Aboriginal communities, but the main outcome of his research was a book that he published in 1970: Aboriginal Settlements; a survey of institutional communities in Eastern Australia, Canberra, Australian National University Press, 1970. Upon the establishment of the Department of Aboriginal Affairs, Mr Long transferred to it in January 1973 as the First Assistant Secretary, Policy. In 1975 he was promoted within the Department to the position of Deputy Secretary, a position that he held until 1982 when he was appointed a Commissioner for Community Relations with the Human Rights Commission. Mr Long retired from the Commonwealth Public Service in 1987 and, since then, he has worked as a consultant and author. 44 Mr Colin MacLeod, who is now a magistrate in Victoria, joined the Northern Territory Administration as a cadet patrol officer in late 1955. In the following year he completed the twelve month course for patrol officers at the Australian School of Pacific Administration. In due course he was promoted to patrol officer and ultimately left the Administration in early 1959. It was during his last year as a patrol officer that he commenced his studies in law by correspondence. 45 Then there were four former officers of either the Native Affairs Branch or the Welfare Branch. They were Mr Ted Milliken, Mr Ray Vincent, Mr Harold ("Martin") Ford and Mr Fred Gubbins. 46 Mr Edwin Percival (Ted) Milliken, who was aged eighty-one when he gave his evidence, still carries on practice as a clinical psychologist at Parap in Darwin. Whilst serving in the Navy during the Second World War, he completed his tertiary studies, obtaining from the University of Queensland Bachelor degrees in Commerce and Arts, majoring in psychology. He served out his time in the Navy as a psychologist. Upon his discharge from the armed services, Mr Milliken obtained employment in the Commonwealth Public Service. He was first posted to Brisbane and then to Adelaide. In October 1955, while still in Adelaide, he applied for and obtained the newly created position of Assistant Director of Welfare in the Northern Territory Administration. Mr Giese was then the Director of Native Affairs. Mr Milliken commenced his duties with a three week orientation course at Alice Springs before going to Darwin. Personnel in the Alice Springs office at that time included Arch Richards, the District Welfare Officer, and patrol officers Harry Kitching, George Holden and Billy McCoy. Mr McCoy later replaced Mr Richards as the District Welfare Officer at Alice Springs in early 1956. Jeremy Long and Colin MacLeod were patrol officers in Darwin and Creed Lovegrove was acting as Superintendent of the Bagot Settlement when Mr Milliken arrived in Darwin. According to Mr Milliken, the Welfare Branch recruited Mr Babe Damaso and Mrs Moy as welfare officers for Darwin in 1955 and Sister Eileen and Mrs Ballagh as welfare officers for Alice Springs in 1956. At that time, there were also four District Welfare Officers: one each at Darwin, Katherine, Tennant Creek and Alice Springs. 47 As the Assistant Director, Mr Milliken was second in line to Mr Giese and took over as the Acting Director when Mr Giese was absent from his office. Mr Milliken stayed in the Administration until 1973 when he left to join the institution which was then known as the Community College and which is now the Northern Territory University; he took up the position of head of the Department of Humanities and Social Sciences and was the senior lecturer in Psychology. He ceased his teaching career in 1984 and has, since then, limited himself to his private practice as a clinical psychologist. When Mr Milliken took up his appointment as the Assistant Director of Welfare in Darwin in 1955, the Welfare Branch was accommodated in a Sydney Williams hut which, as he said had: "no lights, no electricity, fans or anything, but it did have ventilation because the walls didn't come down to the floor. And also there was no ceiling, so where the eaves actually went out of the top of the walls, you had – you were able to get air circulating through it." 48 Mr Milliken said that ten staff were accommodated in a hut measuring twenty feet by eighty feet. It need hardly be said that such conditions would not be tolerated today but that was indicative of the standards that people in Darwin experienced ten years after the end of the Second World War. In considering the quality of the premises and facilities at the Retta Dixon Home and at St Mary's during the time that Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner were there, it will be necessary to bear in mind that their quality must be evaluated against the standards that were operating at the time. Mr Milliken spoke very highly of Mr Giese; he said of him: "… I would think that I have not in my life met a more committed or dedicated man to his job." 49 Mr Ivan Leonard (Ray) Vincent, a qualified social worker, was eighty-seven years of age when he gave evidence. He had occupied the position of Administrative Officer General Welfare in the Welfare Branch from September 1958 to December 1961. By the time of his arrival, Lorna Nelson had already left the Retta Dixon Home and Peter Gunner had already moved into St Mary's. Mr Vincent had no recollection of either of them. 50 Mr Martin Ford, who was the Director of the Department of Aboriginal Affairs at the time of his retirement, was aged seventy-eight when he gave evidence in these proceedings on behalf of the Commonwealth. In June 1940, at the age of nineteen, Mr Ford obtained a position with the Northern Territory Administration in Darwin as an assistant stores clerk in the accounts branch. After four years service in the Army, he returned to that position in 1946. In May 1954, he joined the Native Affairs Branch as the acting chief clerk. In September 1954, with the pending establishment of the Welfare Branch, his title was changed to acting administrative officer; this did not, however, involve a change in any of his duties. His position was made permanent in 1956. He progressed to become the assistant Director of Welfare Services and, thereafter, the Director of Executive Services in the Welfare Division. In 1972, the Welfare Branch was abolished and the Department of Aboriginal Affairs was created. Initially, Mr Ford was an assistant Director, then the acting Director, and finally the Director of the Department. 51 Mr Frederick Andrew Gubbins and Mr Les Penhall were brothers-in-law; they had married sisters. Unlike Mr Penhall, and through no fault of his own, Mr Gubbins was not able to give assistance to the Court. He had served in the Native Affairs Branch, first, as a patrol officer in Darwin and later in Alice Springs from 1942 to 1948, leaving the Territory at the age of twenty-five to return to Adelaide with his wife and family. During his time in the Branch, apart for a short period in the Army, his duties were initially clerical; later, however, he had some face-to-face contact with Aboriginal people. The main part of the work was survey work, looking for sites, or alternative sites, for Native Settlements. That included looking for an alternative permanent settlement to replace the Phillip Creek Settlement, although none was found during his time. 52 The Commonwealth called Dr Neville Green, an educational historian, to give expert evidence about the development and availability of educational facilities for Aboriginal and part Aboriginal children in the Northern Territory. He trained as a teacher obtaining degrees in Arts and Education from the University of Western Australia and a Masters degree in Education from that University in 1987; the substance of his thesis was the impact of government policies on education in an Aboriginal community in the Kimberley between 1912 and 1978. In 1991, his University admitted him to the Doctor of Philosophy for his thesis that traced the pastoral history and the violent encounters in the North West Kimberley that culminated in the Forest River Massacres of 1926. In addition to his academic background Dr Green has also had extensive practical experience as a teacher in Aboriginal schools and as a lecturer in Aboriginal history and education at the Edith Cowan University. The Commonwealth called Dr David Bell; he is a psychiatrist who interviewed both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner at the request of the Commonwealth. The final witness for the Commonwealth was Ms Elizabeth Lajos. She was an instructing solicitor for the Commonwealth. She filed several affidavits containing information about dead and missing people, some of whom might have been potential witnesses in the trial. Deceased and missing "witnesses" 53 During the course of the trial, several people were referred to who, if they were still alive, would probably have given evidence in the trial. The more significant of those people were, in the case of Mrs Cubillo, her grandmother Alice and her adoptive mother Maisie. Mr Gunner's mother, Topsy would have been a very important witness for his case. Turning then to the Commonwealth, they have lost the opportunity of calling numerous former senior public servants as well as some former members of the staff of the Retta Dixon Home. I set out hereunder brief details of the various individuals. 54 The Administrators of the Northern Territory who had the potential to be important witnesses in this trial, all of whom are dead, were as follows: · Mr CLA Abbott. He held office from 29 March 1937 to 30 June 1946. Although his term of office expired before Lorna Cubillo and the other children were removed from the Phillip Creek Settlement, he could have given evidence about the existence and the implementation of any policy concerning part Aboriginal children that existed throughout his term of office; · Mr AR Driver. He held office from 1 July 1946 to 30 June 1951. He, of course, would have been most important because he was in office at the time of the removal of the Phillip Creek children. He could have also picked up from Mr Abbott, explaining whether there had been any changes in policy or any changes in the implementation of policy; · Mr FJS Wise. He held office from 1 July 1951 to 30 June 1956. His term saw out the last part of Mrs Cubillo's residence at the Retta Dixon Home and the start of Mr Gunner's stay at St Mary's. His recommendations led to Sir Paul Hasluck's 1952 policy on the removal of part Aboriginal children; and · Mr JC Archer. He held office from 1 July 1956 to 31 March 1961. 55 Mr EWP Chinnery arrived in Darwin to take up duty as the Director of Native Affairs on 18 April 1939. At that time, the Native Affairs Branch had not been divorced from the Medical Branch nor had any separate staff been appointed. On 10 May 1939, the Branch became a separate organisation and, with a new staff, it established headquarters in "Sion House" in Darwin. Mr Victor George Herbert Carrington was Acting Director of Native Affairs during Mr Chinnery's term of office. Commencing on 29 September 1944, Mr Carrington remained as Acting Director until 21 October 1946. During that time, Mr Chinnery acted as Commonwealth Adviser on Native Affairs. Mr Vincent John White was also Acting Director of Native Affairs for some period in 1944. A letter exhibited to the further supplementary affidavit of Ms Lajos dated 27 September 1999 from Mr White as Acting Director to the Administrator was illustrative of that fact. The end of Mr Chinnery's appointment as Director was gazetted on 28 November 1946 in the Commonwealth of Australia Gazette No 225. Pursuant to s 4 of the Aboriginals Ordinance 1918-1943,Mr Victor Johnson, Minister of State for the Interior, approved the retirement of Mr Chinnery as Director and appointed Mr Francis Herbert Moy in his stead from 14 November 1946. 56 Mr FH Moy was the Director of Native Affairs at the time of the removal of the part Aboriginal children from the Settlement at Phillip Creek. Notwithstanding the extensive evidence in this trial, the question persists: why were the children removed from Phillip Creek? Mr Moy might have been able to answer that question or, at the very least, might have been able to provide some information about the circumstances surrounding the removal of the children. Yet, curiously, neither the applicants nor the respondent could produce a single document in respect of that removal. The only document before this Court was an article authored by Miss Shankelton about her talking to the mothers prior to the transfer. That article appeared in a newsletter called "AIM" that was published by the Aborigines Inland Mission. Within the period of Mr Moy's term of office Mr CR Stahl was Acting Director for a short period from 20 December 1951 to 19 February 1952. 57 An extract from the Commonwealth of Australia Gazette, No 33 dated 28 May 1953 indicates that the Minister of State for Territories, the Hon Paul Hasluck MP, (as he then was) approved the termination of the appointment of Mr Moy as Director of Native Affairs for the Northern Territory from 21 May 1953 and the appointment of his successor Mr Reginald Kevin McCaffery as Acting Director commencing the following day, 22 May 1953. Mr McCaffery had earlier been appointed Acting Director for a short period from 17 October 1949 to 30 January 1950 during the absence of Mr Moy on recreation leave. Mr McCaffery was brought from Alice Springs to Darwin to take over the duties of Mr Moy as Director. He had joined the Commonwealth Public Service in 1948 as the District Superintendent of Native Affairs at Alice Springs, having previously been a member of the Northern Territory Public Service from January 1935. He remained Acting Director of Native Affairs until 25 November 1954 when the Minister of State for Territories approved the termination of his appointment and the new appointment of Mr Harry Giese, effective from 26 November 1954 as Director of Native Affairs. That notice of termination and appointment appeared in the Commonwealth Gazette, No 70 on 18 November 1954. 58 During the course of Mr Giese's term as Director of Native Affairs his office was renamed Director of Welfare when the Native Affairs Branch became the Welfare Branch. Consequently, Mr Giese became the Director of Welfare. During Mr Giese's term as Director, Mr Ted Milliken was Assistant Director Welfare Branch and in Mr Giese's absence, he was the Acting Director of the Welfare Branch. Mr Harry Giese was the Director at the time of Mr Gunner's removal and he remained in that position for the duration of the period relevant to these proceedings. Accordingly, the Court could have been assisted by his evidence. A substantial amount of written material that had either been prepared by him or directed to him was tendered in evidence. That material, helpful though it was, was no substitute for Mr Giese's oral evidence. Mr Giese is still alive but because of his poor state of health he could not give evidence. Messrs. Chinnery, Carrington, White, Moy, Stahl and McCaffery are all dead. Within the context of these proceedings, the evidence has not suggested that either Messrs Carrington, White or Stahl would have been witnesses of critical importance. The same cannot be said of the others. Mr Moy and Mr Giese would have been most important – undoubtedly, the most important witnesses for the Commonwealth; and there was the potential for Mr Chinnery to have assisted the Court by explaining his understanding of matters of policy and its implementation with respect to part Aboriginal children when he handed over his directorship to Mr Moy less than twelve months before the removal of the Phillip Creek children. The documentary evidence revealed that Mr McCaffery was very concerned about various matters at the Retta Dixon Home. His evidence would have probably been very relevant. 59 The applicants accepted that Mr Giese was potentially a very significant witness; they also accepted that he was too ill to give evidence in November 1999 as the case for the Commonwealth drew to an end. Their complaint was that the Commonwealth could have and should have called him as a witness in August 1988 at about the time that Sister Eileen and Mr Kitching gave their evidence. That, I find, was an odd submission, considering that the applicants opposed the Commonwealth's application to have the evidence of elderly witnesses taken before the commencement of the trial. Admittedly, the Commonwealth offered no explanation for not calling Mr Giese in 1998 as they had originally planned to do. However, I propose to make my assessment of the situation based upon the events of the trial and the circumstances that existed at the time of the trial. Upon that basis, Mr Giese, a person who had the potential to be a most important witness, was unable to attend Court and give his evidence. It is reasonable to assume that if these proceedings had been brought earlier, the chances of Mr Giese's availability would have been substantially increased. 60 Prior to her marriage, Mrs Ballagh was known as Ms Rene Archer. She was a welfare officer employed in the Alice Springs office of the Welfare Branch between 1956 and 1963. In that capacity she made several inspections of St Mary's Hostel and compiled her reports based on those inspections. They were consistently and harshly critical of the conditions at St Mary's. She died on 26 July 1985. 61 The District Welfare Officers or the Acting District Welfare Officers who were stationed at Alice Springs during the period when Peter Gunner was a resident at St Mary's Hostel are now all dead. Mr AE Richards was the District Welfare Officer in 1956 when Peter left Utopia and went to St Mary's; Mr McCoy was the Acting District Welfare Officer from May until July of that year. Mr McCoy took over from Mr Richards in August 1957 and held the position of District Welfare Officer until 1962, although Mr JD Gallagher was the acting District Welfare Officer from August until December 1957. In 1963 Mr G Holden was appointed acting District Welfare Officer and was still in that position when Peter left St Mary's. Each of those persons had the potential to give important evidence to the Court about how the Native Affairs Branch and, later the Welfare Branch, administered matters of policy. In particular, what might they have said about the many accusations that have been made by Mr Gunner? Their deaths have robbed the Commonwealth of investigating what they might have been able to say. 62 Miss Amelia Shankelton played a most important part in the life of Mrs Cubillo. She was directly involved in taking Lorna Nelson Napanangka from the Phillip Creek Native Settlement to the Retta Dixon Home at Darwin and she was the Superintendent of the Home throughout the whole of the period that Lorna was a resident. She was known to the children as "Lailee". She died on 15 June 1990. Ms Spohn was a missionary at the Retta Dixon Home while Mrs Cubillo was living there. She was known to the children as "Auntie Marj". She died on 19 May 1982. Ms Dinham was, with Ms Spohn, another missionary at the Retta Dixon Home, at the time when Mrs Cubillo was there. The children called her "Mummy Dinham". She also is dead. Her date of death was 31 July 1983. 63 Sister Eileen was the first Superintendent of St Mary's Hostel. However, within a short time, that was changed and Father Percy McD Smith, the resident Anglican priest in Alice Springs, took over the position. Sister Eileen was thereafter referred to as the Matron. He was Superintendent from 17 April 1950 to February 1955. He died on 7 May 1982. Archdeacon WF Rogers was the next appointed. He resigned as Superintendent of St Mary's Hostel on 24 November 1958 and died in the United Kingdom in October 1980. He was replaced by Archdeacon AH Bott who took up his appointment on 3 March 1959. In the intervening period, Captain Steep acted as Superintendent. When Mr and Mrs Bennier resigned in May 1961, Archdeacon Bott and his wife took up residence within the grounds of St Mary's and Archdeacon Bott took over the additional role of Warden; he continued in both positions until 1966, by which time Mr Gunner had left St Mary's. Archdeacon Bott died on 25 July 1992. Bringing Them Home 64 As children, most – one would like to think all – of us enjoyed the love that a child has for his or her parents, but no child can begin to comprehend the love that a parent has for a child until that child becomes a parent. To be separated forcibly from a parent or from a child could only be described as a heart breaking experience. Even in those circumstances where a parent parts with a child voluntarily, the parting is most often a cause for deep anguish. The loss might be softened in those cases where the parent can visit the child or the child can return home periodically. However, where the parting is total – when a mother does not know where her child has been taken – when the child does not know how to make his or her way home – the loss is total as is the grief. For most of us, it would be presumptuous to say that we could understand that grief – one would have to experience it to understand its enormity, yet this is what is said to have happened to thousands of part Aboriginal children and their mothers throughout most of Australia for many, many years. No matter the legal consequences, no matter the motives or the intentions or the policies that led to these separations – whether they be good or bad – one must have feelings of great regret for those who have so suffered. The law has always recognised the strength of the bond between mother and child. The High Court in Mace v Murray (1955) 92 CLR 370 at 385, an adoption case, stated its views on the rights of the natural mother very strongly. In their joint judgment, their Honours emphasised, on the one hand, the intensely strong emotional bond that exists between mother and child whilst, on the other hand, recognising that there can be circumstances where that bond may not exist or may, even though it does exist, have to give way to other considerations. Their Honours said at 385: "It must be conceded at once that in the ordinary case the mother's moral right to insist that her child shall remain her child is too deeply grounded in human feeling to be set aside by reason only of an opinion formed by other people that a change of relationship is likely to turn out for the greater benefit of the child. It is apparent, too, that a court which is invited to make an order of adoption must appreciate that the child is another's, and that only the most weighty and convincing reasons can justify the involuntary breaking of a tie at once so delicate and so strong as the tie between parent and child. But these considerations cannot carry such overwhelming weight where the mother, with pre-meditation and full knowledge of what she is about, has excluded the child from her life from the moment of its birth. In such a case, and especially where others have taken the mother's place both materially and emotionally during the period of her renunciation of him, her proved unfitness to be a mother to the child is clearly relevant to the question whether it is just and reasonable for the court to substitute those others for her in the parental status despite a new-found desire on her part to retrace her steps." 65 The former practice of separating part Aboriginal children from their mothers has attracted Australia-wide publicity, particularly as a result of the tabling in the Commonwealth Parliament on 26 May 1997 of the report of the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission ("the Commission") entitled "Bringing them home". Earlier, on 2 August 1995, the Commonwealth Attorney-General of the day had requested the Commission to inquire into and report on certain matters. The first matter required the Commission to: "(a) trace the past laws, practices and policies which resulted in the separation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children from their families by compulsion, duress or undue influence, and the effects of those laws, practices and policies." The Attorney's terms of reference also addressed the subject of compensation. The Commission was requested to: "(c) examine the principles relevant to determining the justification for compensation for persons or communities affected by such separations." However, the Commission's terms of reference did not call for any inquiry into separations that were effected with the consent of a child's family: nor did they require a consideration of cases where a neglected, destitute, sick or orphaned child might have been removed without the consent of the child's parents or guardian. 66 Sir Ronald Wilson, the President of the Commission, presented his Commission's report under cover of his letter of 5 April 1997. It has since led to strenuous demands, from a wide cross-section of the community, that the Commonwealth Government issue a public apology to all those who were caught up in this program of enforced institutionalisation. 67 It might be that there are readers of this judgment who are not legal practitioners. Should that be the case they may wonder why I have not, in these reasons, made detailed reference to the contents of the Commission's report. The short answer is that the report was not referred to during this trial by any counsel; it was not tendered in evidence and a Court of Law is bound to decide the case that is before it upon the evidence – and only upon the evidence – that is placed before it by one or other of the parties to the litigation. But, lest it be thought that I am unaware of the contents of the report I should make it clear that I have read substantial sections of it – particularly, those sections that dealt with the Northern Territory and the residents of the Northern Territory. I note that much of the information concerning the histories of those Northern Territory residents who informed the Commission that they had been forcibly removed and detained in the institutions against their will and the will of their parents (eg those whose details are recorded at pp 155, 159, 172, 264 and 406) related to events that preceded the Second World War and, because of their ages, the circumstances of their institutionalisation would have been of minimal value in these proceedings. 68 A Full Court of this Court recently addressed a similar problem of public perception in Patrick Stevedores Operations No 2 Pty Ltd v Maritime Union of Australia (1998) 153 ALR 626. That case, like the present case, attracted much public interest and the members of the Court (Wilcox, von Doussa and Finkelstein JJ) considered that it would be helpful to explain the lines of demarcation between matters that may be known to a judge personally and matters that are before a judge formally as part of the evidence in a trial. What their Honours said in their joint remarks led me to feel that I should explain why the Commission's report has not been considered in these reasons. Their Honours observed at 628-629: "Before dealing with the case as presented, it is perhaps useful for us to say a word on what the case is not about. We do so because many commentators on the decision of North J appear to have laboured under a misconception of the role of a court in a situation like this. As individuals, each member of the bench, like all sensible Australians, is in favour of an efficient waterfront. Export income is the economic life blood of our nation. Most of our exports depart by sea, many through container terminals. It is obviously important to ensure that the operation of container terminals is as efficient and economical as reasonably possible. But these are personal views. We each have personal views, not necessarily identical, about how this might best be achieved. But the court, as a court, has no view about such matters. The court does not have the material that would be necessary for it to make a judgment about the efficiency of the Australian waterfront, either in absolute terms or relative to other countries, the causes of such inefficiencies as may exist, or the desirable steps to overcome any perceived problems. This material has not been placed before the court because the parties have realised, although some commentators have not, that these are not issues for the court's determination. The business of the court is legality. Just as it is not unknown in human affairs for a noble objective to be pursued by ignoble means, so it sometimes happens that desirable ends are pursued by unlawful means. If one point is taken before them, courts have to rule on the legality of the means, whatever view individual judges may have about the desirability of the end. This is one aspect of the rule of law, a societal value that is at the heart of our system of government. It follows that this judgment should be seen only as a judgment about legal issues, not a view about the social, economic and political arguments concerning waterfront management that have dominated the media during the last couple of weeks." 69 This trial is therefore limited to the personal histories of Lorna Cubillo and Peter Gunner and the policies and the implementation of the policies of the Commonwealth to the extent to which they concerned part Aboriginal people in the Northern Territory of Australia between 1947 and 1963 or thereabouts and affected the applicants in these proceedings. 70 In Kruger v The Commonwealth of Australia (1997) 190 CLR 1 ("Kruger") the High Court held that the legislation that allowed for the institutionalisation of part Aboriginal children was constitutionally valid. That did not prevent Brennan CJ from saying at 36 that the revelation of the ways in which the powers conferred by the legislation were exercised had, in many cases, "profoundly distressed the nation". At a later time, when writing extra-judicially in "Reconciliation" (1999) 2 The University of New South Wales Law Journal 595 at 597, his Honour said of Kruger: "The policy of compulsorily separating some Aboriginal children from their parents was revealed in terrible particularity in the Report of a Commission of Inquiry." 71 He then added that whilst the High Court "acknowledged this awful truth" in Kruger, it was "unable to hold that the measures under which the separations had been carried out were invalid". Dawson J was equally critical in Kruger. He said that: "No doubt it may be said with justification that the events in question did not promote the welfare of Aboriginals." 72 The Full Court of the Family Court In the Marriage of B and R (1994-1995) 19 Fam LR 594 at 602 per Fogarty, Kay and O'Ryan JJ was more direct in its outright condemnation of the practice; it said: "The first step in the admissibility of this type of evidence is, we think, now beyond controversy. This is the devastating long term effect on thousands of Aboriginal children arising from their removal from their Aboriginal family and their subsequent upbringing within a white environment." 73 The applicants in this case do not challenge the decision in Kruger. They do not claim that the statutory powers in the legislation under which they were removed and detained were invalid. Their claim, in effect, is that the authorities were bound to exercise those powers in the best interests of the child and that, in breach of that requirement, they failed to do so. 74 It would not be proper for me, as a judge of this Court, to express a personal view about the call for a national apology. I have a view on the subject as, no doubt, most Australians have. However, my view is only that of another member of the community; it may or may not be a view that is shared by other judges of this Court and the Federal Court, which as a collegiate body, deliberately refrains from expressing a view on social, moral or political issues unless, of course, they are identified as subjects for judicial consideration. The question of an apology to the members of the Stolen Generation was not an issue that arose in this case. That factor is sufficient to restrain me from stating a view on the issue. I merely record what has happened to date in the Parliaments of the States and Territories. The South Australian Parliament passed a resolution of sincere regret and apology, referring to "the forced separation of some Aboriginal children from their families and homes". (SA, Parliamentary Debates, House of Assembly, 28 May 1997, pp 1435-1443). Queensland also incorporated the concept of "force" in that its resolution of regret and apology referred to "past policies under which indigenous children were forcibly separated from their families". (Qld, Parliamentary Debates, Legislative Assembly, 26 May 1999, pp 1947-1982). 75 The Parliaments of Victoria, New South Wales, Western Australian and Tasmania have also passed resolutions of regret and apology but in terms that have not referred to "force". For example the Victorian resolution was in these terms: "That this house apologises to the Aboriginal people on behalf of all Victorians for the past policies under which Aboriginal children were removed from their families and expresses deep regret at the hurt and distress this has caused and reaffirms its support for reconciliation between all Australians." (Victoria, Parliamentary Debates, Legislative Assembly, 17 September 1997, p 10). The Assembly of the Australian Capital Territory passed a resolution of apology saying that it regarded "the past practices of forced separation as abhorrent …". (ACT, Parliamentary Debates, Legislative Assembly, 17 June 1997, p 1604). 76 In the Northern Territory of Australia, the Opposition Leader tabled a motion of apology and regret. The Chief Minister of the day is recorded as saying: "It is not our intention to vote against the motion proposed by the opposition, but rather to amend it". The amendment was substantial and lengthy; it addressed the Territory's past and ongoing support for Aboriginal people but it did not contain any statement of regret nor did it contain an apology. The last part of the resolution affirmed: "… that positive and material support for the victims and their families is more beneficial than the empty-apology option taken by a number of parliaments in the Australian States." (NT, Parliamentary Record, Legislative Assembly, 17 February 1998, p 14). 77 The position with respect to the Commonwealth Parliament, requires special mention. At common law anything said or done in the House is protected by absolute privilege – a privilege that can be traced back to Article 9 of the Bill of Rights 1688. In Australia, the privilege of the Houses of the Commonwealth Parliament derives from s 49 of The Constitution and the privilege has been declared for the Commonwealth Parliament by the Parliamentary Privileges Act 1987 (Cth). Section 16 of that Act, which substantially prohibits the raising in a court of anything done or said in the Commonwealth Parliament, is in the following terms: "(1) For the avoidance of doubt, it is hereby declared and enacted that the provisions of article 9 of the Bill of Rights, 1688 apply in relation to the Parliament of the Commonwealth and, as so applying, are to be taken to have, in addition to any other operation, the effect of the subsequent provisions of this section. …. (3) In proceedings in any court or tribunal, it is not lawful for evidence to be tendered or received, questions asked or statements, submissions or comments made, concerning proceedings in Parliament, by way of, or for the purpose of: (a) questioning or relying on the truth, motive, intention or good faith of anything forming part of those proceedings in Parliament; (b) otherwise questioning or establishing the credibility, motive, intention or good faith of any person; or (c) drawing, or inviting the drawing of, inferences or conclusions wholly or partly from anything forming part of those proceedings in Parliament. …" 78 By virtue of this prohibition I do not think that I should refer to Hansard to record what has been said in the House on this subject. However, it is a matter of public record, ascertainable from sources other than Hansard, that the Commonwealth Parliament passed a motion of sincere regret on 26 August 1999; the motion did not however include an apology. 79 For many people it is, at least, a matter of regret that, expressed in its most favourable terms, our ancestors might have misguidedly thought that it would be beneficial to the interests of part Aboriginal children to separate them from their families and to remove them into institutions. That, of course, is a matter of social conscience; it still remains to be seen whether that translates into a legal cause of action. Legal disputes must be decided in accordance with the law. Merkel J made this point in his dissenting judgment in the Full Court of this Court in Nulyarimma v Thompson (1999) 165 ALR 621 at 638-639. His Honour, when discussing the claims that had been pursued by the Aboriginal applicants in that case, said: "In each matter the applicants are seeking to remedy wrongs of the past committed against the Aboriginal people. In some instances litigants, even where assisted or represented by legal advisers, have unrealisable expectations of the capacity of the law to remedy past wrongs. However, the Court's role is to hear and determine, in accordance with law, controversies arising between parties. It is not within the Court's power, nor is it its function or role, to set right all of the wrongs of the past or to chart a just political and social course for the future." Later in his judgment, Merkel J said: "The role of the Court is to adjudicate upon those claims in accordance with law. In doing so the Court is to determine, in accordance with its judicial function, what the law is rather than what the law should be. The latter function is that of the legislature." Those comments, which I respectfully adopt, are very appropriate to the circumstances of the claims that have been made by Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner. The task of the Court is to examine the evidence – both oral and documentary – in a clinical manner, devoid of emotion, for the purpose of ascertaining, first, whether the applicants have causes of action against the Commonwealth; secondly, whether, if they do, they should be permitted to prosecute them, having regard to their delay in the institution of proceedings; and thirdly, if they are permitted to prosecute them, whether they have made out their claims. 80 I have taken time to mention the "Bringing Them Home" report and the resolutions of the Parliaments of the States and Territories – not because they were the subject of evidence or submissions in these long trials – but so that members of the general public may appreciate that the Court has, at all times, been aware of these matters. Much evidence was received about the policy or policies that the Governments of the day had implemented with respect to matters pertaining to Aboriginal Affairs and there will be a need to address aspects of those policies when considering the personal circumstances of Mrs Cubillo and those of Mr Gunner. However, the dominating issue has, at all times, centred upon the individual. Matters of policy have been called in aid, only as adjuncts to a determination of the rights of the individual. It is for that reason that counsel refrained, correctly in my opinion, from referring to the Commission's report and the actions of the Parliaments. 81 In the compilation of these reasons I have found it necessary to incorporate from time to time, the language of the day. Repeatedly, throughout the trial, items of documentary evidence disclosed the use of words such as "full bloods", "half-castes" and "coloureds", to name a few. Indeed, there were also occasions when one or other of those terms was used during the course of oral evidence – and not only by non Aboriginal people. Some people find these words offensive and any use of such terms in these reasons has been occasioned only in the interests of accuracy. The preferred terms that were used in the trial were "Aboriginals" or "Aborigines" to identify indigenous Australians and part Aboriginals to distinguish those of mixed ancestry; I will use those terms where it is appropriate to do so. Changing Standards 82 In par 31 of her further amended statement of claim, Mrs Cubillo has alleged that her removal and detention was unlawful and beyond the relevant legislative powers. She had advanced, as a ground in support of that allegation, the claim that her removal and detention occurred: "… under the dictate of or pursuant to a general policy of removal and detention of half-caste children from their Aboriginal parents and without regard for the individual circumstances of the Applicant." Her pleading in that paragraph continued with the further claim that in applying the general policy, as identified by her, the Director of Native Affairs: "… failed to exercise his discretion properly or at all, in that he failed to consider and determine whether the removal and detention of the Applicant was necessary or desirable in the interests of the Applicant or of her mother." 83 Mrs Cubillo further claimed that the Director of Native Affairs took into account irrelevant considerations namely, the general policy, as identified by her – that is, a general policy of removal and detention of half-caste children, irrespective of their particular circumstances – and that he failed to take into account relevant considerations, namely "the interests and particular circumstances of the Applicant". She concluded with a plea that the execution of the power to remove and detain her was "so unreasonable that no reasonable person could have so executed that power". Claims in identical terms have been made in par 41 of Mr Gunner's further amended statement of claim. The allegations that the Director took into account irrelevant considerations and that the Director failed to take into account relevant considerations were withdrawn – but only during the course of final submissions. The claim of "unreasonability" remained however and was pursued. 84 In its separate defences the Commonwealth denied that it had, or had implemented, a general policy of the type described in the further amended statements of claim and it also denied that the Director of Native Affairs applied or acted pursuant to any such policy. But the Commonwealth also added a further plea in each defence that has raised an issue of importance. In subpar 31(c) of its defence to Mrs Cubillo's claim, the Commonwealth has claimed: "… that whether any exercise of the power to remove and detain the applicant by the Director of Native Affairs (which is not admitted) was reasonable, necessary or desirable or took into account irrelevant considerations or failed to take into account relevant considerations must be determined by reference to standards, attitudes, opinions and beliefs prevailing at the time of its exercise and not by reference to contemporary standards, attitudes, opinions and beliefs." Comparable pleadings are to be found in pars 41 and 43 of the Commonwealth's defence to Mr Gunner's claim. For reasons that I will endeavour to explain, I am convinced that the Commonwealth was correct in its claim that these actions must be resolved by having regard to the standards, attitudes, opinions and beliefs that prevailed during the period that commenced with the removal of Mrs Cubillo in 1947 and that finished when Mr Gunner left St Mary's Hostel in Alice Springs in 1963. 85 It is a truism to say that we live in changing times. What was accepted yesterday is rejected today. What would not be tolerated yesterday is accepted today. There are moral and social issues that have in the past divided, and continue today to divide, sections of the community. Euthanasia is an example of such an issue. Once upon a time it was denounced as murder: there was no room for debate. Today there is a growing argument to legalise it under strict conditions. The Parliament of the Northern Territory passed a law permitting it, only to see that law subsequently disallowed by the Federal Parliament. In 1995 the Northern Territory enacted the Rights of the Terminally Ill Act 1995 (NT). The Australian Capital Territory had similar legislation, the Medical Treatment (Amendment) Bill 1995 (ACT). However, the Commonwealth Parliament in 1997 enacted the Euthanasia Laws Act 1997 (Cth) which specifically disallowed the Northern Territory legislation by prohibiting the Legislative Assembly from making laws which permit or have the effect of permitting euthanasia. The Commonwealth legislation amended the ACT self-government legislation in similar terms. 86 The same divisive opinions exist about the subject of abortion. There are those who are so totally opposed to it on religious, moral or social grounds that they regard it as murder. In all jurisdictions in Australia procuring an unlawful abortion is, prima facie, an offence. However, each jurisdiction contains provisions for a defence to the charge. The common law defence of necessity applies in Victoria, New South Wales and the ACT. In Queensland there is a medical defence as prescribed in the Queensland Criminal Code. South Australia and the Northern Territory have modified the common law defence: Criminal Law Consolidation Act 1935 (SA) s 82A; Criminal Code (NT) s 174. In both jurisdictions an abortion is lawful if two doctors are of the view that continuation of the pregnancy is likely to endanger the mother's health. In Western Australia an abortion is now not unlawful if done with the informed consent of the mother: Health Act 1911 (WA) s 334. So it can be said, broadly speaking, that, bit by bit, the earlier prohibitions are being eroded away. 87 Capital punishment causes divisions in society. It has been abolished in Australia for many years, but there are those who advocate its return and its use has resurfaced in some States of the USA. Then there is the subject of killing in times of war. The laws of our land acknowledge the right of conscientious objectors not to bear arms: s 61A Defence Act 1903 (Cth). That, however, did not stop ladies sending the white feather – the mark of the coward. 88 Tasmania until 1997 was the only Australian State, and one of the few places in the western world, that continued to criminalise sex in private between consenting adult males. The laws were enshrined in ss 122 and 123 of Tasmania's Criminal Code (Tas) which banned sexual acts "against the order of nature" and "gross indecency between male persons". Whilst other Australian States had repealed the criminal prohibitions on homosexual acts following political lobbying during the 1970s and early 1980s, Tasmania's Parliament had not. It remained out of step with the rest of Australia. Eventually, in December 1990, reform legislation was passed through the Lower House but the Bill was rejected in the Upper House. That was the first of five attempts to push the reform legislation through the Tasmanian Parliament. In late 1991, as the second Bill to reform the law was rejected, Australia was finalising its acceptance of the first optional protocol of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights issued by the United Nations Human Rights Committee. Eventually, in 1994, the UNHRC investigated a case in Tasmania and found that Tasmania's laws violated an individual's right to adult consensual sexual activity in privacy. It advocated the repeal of the relevant sections of the Criminal Code. After some delay the Federal Parliament finally responded to the UNHRC decision, passing the Human Rights (Sexual Conduct) Act 1994 (Cth). Tasmania regarded that law as having no application because its laws were not "arbitrary", but following upon a High Court decision that supported the Commonwealth legislation, a Bill to repeal the State's law was tabled in the Upper House for the fifth time in April 1997. On 1 May 1997, ss 122 and 123 of the Tasmanian Criminal Code were repealed. 89 These and other like issues throw up in sharp relief the legitimate divisions of opinion that can exist in our community. And whilst any one of us is entitled to have a strong conviction and a fierce determination to pursue a particular avenue, it is well to remember what Voltaire once wrote: "I disagree with what you say but I'll defend with my life your right to say it". 90 Difficult as these problems may be in their resolution, there is yet a further problem for jurists – the need to identify and separate the legal from the social and moral issues. For example, a father may regard abortion as abhorrent but if the mother of his child, in (say) Western Australia, gives her informed consent to the operation, it is highly unlikely that the grieving father would have a cause of action at law against the hospital or the doctor or those assisting at the operation. For the same reasons, in the days of capital punishment, the family of the condemned person would have no legal redress against the State or the executioner because the act of execution was authorised by law. And this view will prevail notwithstanding that there were people then, as there are people now, who were outraged by the act of public execution. 91 The social stigma of illegitimacy that existed until the last thirty or forty years most often led to unmarried mothers putting their children up for adoption. Society is now reacting against that practice as it experiences the driving need of so many people to search out their biological parents – in particular their natural mother. Many elements of society now accept single parenthood in a way that would not have been acceptable some decades ago and, as a result, it is now recognised that the number of children who are put up for adoption has significantly decreased. This is but another example of a dramatic change in social attitudes. There was a time when marriage, as an institution of intended permanency, was the hall-mark of society – and with marriage came post-nuptial conception and legitimacy. Although many times honoured in the breach, that was, nevertheless the standard or the norm. Today it is quite different; no-fault divorce has been on the Statute books since the enactment of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth). Premarital sex and single parenthood are frequent occurrences. So far as this case is concerned, the issue is not to debate whether those changes are right or wrong or good or bad. Rather, the matter of importance is to recognise that the thinking of many people today is grossly at variance with the thinking of their parents and grandparents. Today, there would be many who would condemn parents who forced their unmarried teenage daughter to give up her baby for adoption or face family ostracism. But would that condemnation have been so apparent fifty years ago? 92 The subject of assimilation has loomed large in these proceedings. Assimilation was, in the 1940s, the 1950s and the 1960s, as it is now, a social and political issue. It is neither morally nor legally wrong of a person or of a Government to advocate or implement a policy that approves of or rejects the concept of assimilation. In so far as it may be possible to generalise, the most that can be said is that many interested and concerned people in former times favour assimilation but, today, the pendulum has swung back strongly in favour of the retention of Aboriginal tradition and lore. The changing swings and moods of social thinking have had a great effect on the presentation of the cases for the applicants and in the Commonwealth's defence. 93 Dr Green, who has had substantial experience in the development of syllabi for the teaching of Aboriginal (including part Aboriginal) children said that he knew of the development of like programs in the Northern Territory. He said that many of the programs that he developed were, in fact, based on the programs that had been developed in the Territory; he added that the 1963 report on those developments known as "the Watts / Gallagher report" was "standard reading" and was used "to teach curriculum development to trainee teachers for Aboriginal schools". The authors of that report, Mr Jim Gallagher went on to become Director of Education in the Northern Territory and Betty Watts, his colleague, became Professor of Education at the Brisbane University. The significance of the Watts / Gallagher report was that it made clear that the traditional classroom methods that were used for European students were inappropriate for Aboriginal children. 94 However, the matter of interest to the histories of Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner was that this professional awareness, despite experiments in the proceeding decade, did not start to surface until the early 1960s. By that time Mrs Cubillo had finished her schooling and Mr Gunner had almost finished – perhaps had finished – his. This dramatic shift in the method of education for Aboriginal children is yet another example of the moving standards. To adapt a phrase that has been used by Professor Helen Haste, we have seen in the last fifty years or so, a huge change in the mapping of our moral and social values towards the Australian Aborigine. The Watts / Gallagher report is but another example that there was developing, at that time, an understanding by educational authorities that special schools were needed for Aboriginal and part Aboriginal children. Those facilities were not, however, available during the school days of Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner and little purpose is served by them now complaining about the quality of the education that they received; they had access to and received the same education that was available, according to the standards of the day, to all students who were able to attend schools. What they lack was the special attention that is now given to Aboriginal and part Aboriginal children. 95 The unsuitability of schools to nurture and foster learning by part Aboriginal children who were brought in from remote areas was referred to in the evidence of both Sister Eileen and Mr Wilson, the teacher at the Hartley Street School. They both testified to the inadequacies of school programs to assist Aboriginal and part Aboriginal children – particularly those who started school at a later age with little or no English skills. The need for special provision was also recognised by the Native Affairs Branch. However, the opinions, both well informed and intelligent, of those such as Sister Eileen and Mr Wilson, and the recognition of the need for special provision by the Native Affairs Branch, did not translate into a duty of care. Rather, the schooling that was available in the Northern Territory, while limited, was equally available to all children. 96 The question of community standards was addressed by some of the justices in Kruger. Brennan CJ, for example said at 36-37: "… it would be erroneous … to hold that a step taken in purported exercise of a statutory discretionary power was taken unreasonably … if the unreasonableness appears only from a change in community standards." Dawson J said at 52: "The measures contemplated by the legislation, of which the plaintiffs complain, would appear to have been ill-advised or mistaken, particularly by contemporary standards." But his Honour went on to recognise that there had been "a shift in view upon the justice of morality of these measures". 97 Toohey J said that the legislative history lent force to the submission "that the Ordinance was seen at the time as serving a welfare purpose": at 76 and 85. His Honour was there referring to the Aboriginals Ordinance 1918 (NT). He added however that "the means adopted to achieve such a purpose would now be regarded as entirely unacceptable": at 76. Toohey J discussed at length the variations in standards. He made it quite clear that, even though the Ordinance must be assessed by reference to what was reasonably capable of being seen by the legislature at the time as a rational and relevant means of protecting Aboriginal people against the inroads of European settlement "no such basis would survive analysis today": at 97. While recognising the "welfare purpose" of the legislation, his Honour was of the opinion that "judged by current standards", the involuntary detention of an Aborigine would now most likely be considered invalid because of the general proposition that "the power to order that a citizen be involuntarily confined in custody is … part of the judicial power of the Commonwealth": at 84. Nevertheless he maintained that it was still relevant "to consider the standards and perceptions prevailing at the time of the Ordinance": at 93. 98 Gummow J was of much the same view. He accepted that the provisions of the relevant legislation were indicative of a concern by the Executive "to assist survival rather than destruction". But he added that the philosophy "now may appear entirely outmoded and unacceptable": at 158. 99 This litigation must investigate whether there was sufficient evidence to explain why Lorna Cubillo and Peter Gunner were placed in institutions and kept there for many years. For example, was it done with or without the informed consent of their families? If it was done without consent, was it the action of uncaring people who followed the dictates of some policy that had no regard to the interests of the child? Or was it the action of people who, although misguided on today's standards, were well-meaning and acting in a way that they thought was in the best interests of the child? 100 Mr Worthy made a comment during the course of his evidence in chief which, in my opinion, must play a significant part in assessing the applicants' complaints about the conditions of the institutions when they were inmates. They complained, among other things, that the staff were lacking in qualifications. As to this, Mr Worthy explained that at one stage there was a prevailing attitude that "everybody knows how to look after children in the institutions". He then went on to explain that there was "a definite shift" so that by the early 1960s "it was considered essential that people who were qualified in the field – that's social workers, psychologists – be appointed, as indeed they were, to many church and welfare institutions". Mr Worthy's comment was appropriate when one has regard to the staff of the Welfare Branch and to the Native Affairs Branch. Many of its officers were highly qualified. But the same could not be said of the staff of St Mary's Hostel. That opinion, expressed by a person with both academic and practical qualifications in the field of social welfare, showed how important it is to remember that this case has been concerned with the standards that were in vogue forty to fifty years ago. The trained personnel that Mr Worthy regarded as essential were being introduced at Government level but the charitable institutions were lagging behind. 101 A similar concern arose in Williams v Minister, Aboriginal Land Rights Act 1983 [No 2] [1999] NSWSC 843 ("Williams v Minister [No 2]"). The plaintiff in that case, a part Aboriginal woman, had been detained in institutions between 1942 and 1960 at her mother's request. She alleged negligence against the respondent having regard to the manner in which she was treated in that time. The trial judge, Abadee J had this to say at par 757: "It is appropriate to repeat, that the events that I am being asked to judge and evaluate commenced in 1942 and finished in 1960. Thus in 1999 I am asked to judge that which took place 39 to 57 years ago (over a half a century)! I repeat again that these are events that occurred in a different Australia, a society with different knowledge, and with different moral values and standards. To apply attitudes of the present community to a period commencing so long ago would be to apply the standards of today not those of the 1940s and 1950s." 102 Earlier Barwick CJ warned of the dangers of hindsight in Maloney v Commissioner for Railways (NSW) (1978) 52 ALJR 292, when he said at 292-293: "It is, in my opinion, proper to remark at the outset that the respondent's duty was to take reasonable care for the safety of his passengers. It is easy to overlook the all important emphasis upon the word 'reasonable' in the statement of the duty. Perfection or the use of increased knowledge or experience embraced in hindsight after the event should form no part of the components of what is reasonable in all the circumstances. That matter must be judged in prospect and not in retrospect. The likelihood of the incapacitating occurrence, the likely extent of the injuries which the occurrence may cause, the nature and extent of the burden of providing a safeguard against the occurrence and the practicability of the specific safeguard which would do so are all indispensable considerations in determining what ought reasonably to be done. Of all these elements, evidence is essential except to the extent that they or some of them are within the common knowledge of the ordinary man. The fertile but unqualified imagination of counsel or the judge can never be a substitute for such evidence." The fact that standards of care are evolving must be recognised. As times change, so also may standards, but that does not always mean that some form of instantaneous reaction is required. 103 Thus, in dismissing the appeal by a person who had been seriously injured when he was left unattended in a prison cell in an intoxicated state, Mahoney JA in Cekan v Haines (1990) 21 NSWLR 296 stated at 314: "…a defendant, whether a government or otherwise, must accommodate what it does to the evolving requirement of a standard of care. But evolution of this kind does not take place in discrete or quantum leaps. There are periods, of which the present is, on the evidence, one, during which it will be by no means clear to a careful defendant what the duty of care requires in this regard and this poses problems where, in particular, if the standard of care has changed, what is required to meet the change is a rebuilding of a cell complex or the relevant parts of it. And it is necessary in such circumstances, to consider whether a government has failed to discharge the obligations imposed by its duty of care because, in a time when change is still occurring, it has not, for example, rebuilt its cell complex against what may be held to be a change in the response of a reasonable man to what is required of it." 104 Consequently, not only is it relevant to have regard to the state of knowledge, to technology and to standards of conduct and behaviour at the relevant time, but allowance must also be made for changes in those matters to be implemented and generally accepted. Again, in determining what is reasonable in that regard, matters such as the existence of resources and statutory power to effect change must be taken into account. In some cases, of course, such changing values may come to be reflected in policy but this can only be done to the extent that it is not inconsistent with the existing statutory regime. Legislative change may take longer. 105 Although it is important to recognise that the subject of the removal and detention of part Aboriginal children has created racial, social and political problems of great complexity, it nevertheless remains the duty of the Court, in the determination of the issues that are presently before it, to limit its observations to the legal issues that have been identified during the course of argument. Historians may wish to adjudicate on the racial and social policies of former Governments and it must be left to the political leaders of the day to determine what, if any, action might be taken to arrive at a social or political solution to these problems. It would not be proper for this Court to go beyond the boundaries of the legal issues that are to be determined. The Commonwealth – an introduction 106 The Commonwealth has raised several defences but, at this stage, it is sufficient to mention the following. In the case of Mrs Cubillo, it maintains that it did not remove her from the Phillip Creek Native Settlement; the Commonwealth says that she was removed, either by the Aborigines Inland Mission through the agency of Miss Shankelton, or by Mr Moy, the Director of Native Affairs (for whom it had no responsibility) through the agency of Mr Penhall; the Commonwealth says that it was the Aborigines Inland Mission who thereafter detained her at the Retta Dixon Home. The Commonwealth claims that it played no part in her removal and it also says that it has no vicarious responsibility for the conduct of the Director or the conduct of the mission or its staff. As for Mr Gunner, it was the Commonwealth's case that he was committed to St Mary's Hostel with the consent of and at the request of his mother, Topsy, and that, thereafter, he was detained by the Australian Board of Missions. The Commonwealth claims that it did not, nor did the Director of Native Affairs, play any part in the removal or detention of the young Peter. It relies, inter alia, on exhibit A73:A21, a document that purports to bear Topsy's mark, consenting to her son, Peter being "educated and trained in accordance with accepted European standards". 107 The complaint by the applicants that they were removed from their families and their culture, allegedly by the application of the Commonwealth's policies, lies at the heart of their cases. Taken to their extremity, the applicants have challenged the conduct of the Commonwealth, claiming that it amounted to a misuse or abuse of these policies. The immediate and specific answer by the Commonwealth was that it did not, as a matter of fact or as a matter of law, participate in either removal or detention. But there is also a question whether there is, or might be, a larger, more general answer. Is there, for example, a case for the Commonwealth that its policies were grounded upon the belief that, in some circumstances, it was better to remove a child from its environment than to leave him or her there, notwithstanding the emotional and psychological trauma that may be occasioned to both child and parent? It could not be seriously questioned that trauma was likely to be occasioned, irrespective of whether the removal was, or was not, against the parents' will but, could it be argued that welfare schemes that separated a child from its parent were designed to protect and assist the child, placing its interests first, even though there may have been a significant risk of pain and trauma at the parting? There are, of course, contrary views, including those explained by Brennan CJ in Kruger at 40: "In retrospect, many would say that the risk of a child suffering mental harm by being kept away from its mother or family was too great to permit even a well-intentioned policy of separation to be implemented …." This potential, further answer was not pursued by the Commonwealth but, as will be seen, there were writings that suggested it. 108 It is also necessary to emphasise that both applicants have chosen to limit their claims to actions against the Commonwealth. Mrs Cubillo has not sued the Director of Native Affairs, nor has she sued the Aborigines Inland Mission or Mr Walter. Mr Gunner has not sued the Director nor has he sued the Australian Board of Missions or Mr Constable. 109 I remain convinced that the applicants' claims must be assessed according to the standards that were acceptable in the 1940s, 50s and 60s. In these reasons for judgment it will, therefore, be necessary to have regard to the conditions that prevailed in the Northern Territory in the period commencing in 1947 (when Mrs Cubillo was taken to the Retta Dixon Home) and ending in 1963 (when Mr Gunner left St Mary's). The assessment of those conditions must then be applied to the personal circumstances of Mrs Cubillo and, separately, to the personal circumstances of Mr Gunner. But it will not be possible to apply those prevailing conditions generally across the board to all part Aboriginal children. The evidence in the trial has shown that one cannot generalise. No matter how distasteful it may be, the fact remains that there were then (as, indeed, there are now) children, both black and white, who were and are in need of care. Sister Eileen Heath made that clear in her affidavit of 25 June 1998: "I was employed by the government as a Welfare Officer from 1956 until 1970. For most of 1956, I was working as a Welfare Officer up in Darwin, primarily opening the first receiving home for welfare children in Fannie Bay. The purpose of the receiving home was to provide temporary accommodation for neglected or destitute children until a foster family or hostel could be found for them. Generally, these were children who had been placed in care by a court order, although in an emergency a child might be placed in the receiving home for a few days until a court order was obtained. Most of the children were coloured, but there were some white children in the receiving home from time to time." 110 Later, when working as a welfare officer in Alice Springs she also had to face the problem of neglected children. She addressed the subject in par 151 of her affidavit: "However, sometimes our work involved reporting to the District Welfare Officer about neglected or destitute children. He then made a decision whether to recommend their removal. After the part-aboriginal people achieved drinking rights, alcoholism and violence became larger social problems for them, which often had welfare implications for their children." 111 Sister Eileen was also a member of the State Children's Council between 1951 and 1958. That Council met in Darwin to consider child welfare matters; it was concerned with children who had been committed as State children into the care of the Council by the Courts. Such children would have been committed because of delinquency in some cases and because of neglect in others. The program of care for delinquent and neglected children transcended all boundaries of colour and race. 112 Sister Eileen presented a paper to a Missions-Administration Conference that was held in August 1955, entitled "The Needs of the Half-Caste Community Now Exempt from the Aboriginals Ordinance". In relation to the removal of part Aboriginal children from their families, she made the following apparently contradictory statements: "Where possible children should be left with their parents. The only hope for the part white lies in the strength of the family unit. Taking the children away from their parents only relieves the parents of the little sense of responsibility they have; we need to foster it to the utmost by encouraging them to provide for a family. The separation of the full blood and half caste is desirable. It is quite obvious that if they are allowed to continue to mix, assimilation will be retarded. This is where institutions such as St Mary's can play a part. Mixed blood children should be taken from native camps at the earliest possible age but certainly not the children of mixed blood parents unless those parents are incapable of providing suitable homes for their children, or are living in remote places where it is not possible to give their children an opportunity of education." 113 The authorities paid a small tribute to Sister Eileen in 1981 when a new street in Alice Springs was named Heath Street in her honour and in recognition of her work with Aboriginal children. A contemporaneous newspaper article, covering the event was headed "An Aborigines' friend". Normally, one would not attach great weight to the contents of a newspaper article when the author was not called to give direct evidence, but I have mentioned this event because it matches my assessment of Sister Eileen. Having heard her evidence, having read her papers, having had the opportunity to observe her, I am in no doubt that the views that she expressed in the 1940s and 1950s – no matter what the present day assessment of those views may be – were views that were dominated by her beliefs that she was working in the best interests of the Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people. To explain what I have just written I use the subject of "assimilation" as an example. Today there are many people, both Aboriginal and non Aboriginal, who are totally opposed to assimilation. Their preferred view is a policy of self-management. However, Sister Eileen was a strong supporter of assimilation, as was the Honourable PW Hasluck MP (later Sir Paul Hasluck) the Federal Minister for Territories from 1951 to 1963. During the course of her cross-examination, Sister Eileen agreed that so far as she was concerned, she did not understand the policy of assimilation to include any emphasis on Aboriginal culture. On the other hand, in her re-examination, she agreed with the proposition that, in her experience, both as a missionary at St Mary's and as a welfare officer, there was no "compulsion about being absorbed or assimilated". It was Sister Eileen's view that: "It depended on the people themselves, how far they want to be assimilated or wanted to be assimilated." 114 In her 1955 paper, Sister Eileen wrote on assimilation, saying in part: "Theoretically, they have virtual equality with whites, citizenship rights making them equal but separate. The barriers against full enjoyment of all the privileges of their citizenship today are not legal, but mainly social barriers. That there are some genuine difficulties in the way of implementing this policy of absorption fully is only to be expected." Asked in cross-examination to expound on this statement Sister Eileen said: "This paper was prepared just after 1953 when the part-Aboriginal people were exempt and they had full citizenship rights which meant that they could come into the town, they could purchase property if they wanted to – had sufficient funds and they were being prepared or had to be prepared for assimilation into a white community. Better housing was being provided for them, but it was being provided in amongst the white population and we had to prepare them to understand what it meant to live in a street with white people perhaps each side of them and to conform to the normal white standard of living." 115 In 1956, during her time as a welfare officer at Alice Springs, Sister Eileen, at the request of the then Director of Welfare, Mr Harry Giese, submitted a report on the operations of St Mary's. At that time, her duties as a welfare officer did not take her to St Mary's; the Hostel was in Mrs Ballagh's territory. Furthermore, as Sister Eileen conceded, she did not visit St Mary's for the purpose of the preparation of her report. As she said: "I prepared my report based on my time at St Mary's and on things that I had heard about it after I left". Although these were important qualifications, they did not diminish the value of the contents of her report which contained important insights into the thinking of the day. In particular, one can see in Sister Eileen's writings how she based her concerns for part Aboriginal children upon the premise that they were to be assimilated into western culture. In the first place, she predicated her report upon the premise that: "These outback children have been admitted to St Mary's because parents desire education for their children …" To have excluded those part Aboriginal children from St Mary's would have meant, in Sister Eileen's opinion, that they were excluded "from the opportunity of education and social training and adjustment, the necessary prelude to full citizenship". Sister Eileen's theories were so supportive of the doctrine of assimilation that she advocated bringing in part Aboriginal children "at a much earlier age than school age – approximately three – four years". She explained that proposal by adding: "This would ease their social adjustment and enable them to start school with something closer to the background of a normal European child, an advantage which is presently sadly lacking and which has decided ill effects on their whole future." Sister Eileen continued in her report that, at that time, she considered that St Mary's, because of "its wide divergence of functions and limited facilities", was failing to fulfil substantially its main requirements. Sister Eileen described those requirements as the: "training and preparation of part aboriginal children to the social and academic standard which would enable them to be readily assimilated into our own society … ." 116 At a later stage in her report, when dealing with the subject of education, Sister Eileen advocated seeking the cooperation of teachers "by seating a coloured child beside a white one in class instead of the present usual method of segregating them". She saw this as "the first step towards assimilation". 117 Sister Eileen discussed the subject of neglected children in her report dated 2 October 1957 to the Director of Welfare. She wrote that she saw the need for a Receiving Home where "destitute and neglected" children could be cared for. However, she was concerned to preserve, if possible, any familial bond that might remain. She therefore added that the Receiving Home should be seen as a Centre: "… where approved parents could sometimes visit their children, under supervision, thus maintaining a parent-child relationship where such a relationship would be of mutual benefit." Dictatorial though this statement might seem, it must be remembered that Sister Eileen was writing about the welfare of those children whom she had earlier described as "destitute and neglected". Many people would, today, be angered by some of Sister Eileen's views. She wrote in her 1956 report complaining that on completion of primary school education: "girls are at present not taught domestic arts, dress and clothing making etc to fit them for a higher station as good wives and mothers." That statement, however, was advanced as acceptable thinking by an intelligent, experienced, caring woman who had spent the greater part of her adult life working for and seeking to advance the interests of Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people. It is a tangible example of the shift in values in the last fifty years. Whilst it is easy to imagine the criticism that would be levelled at a person who made such a statement these days, it is not so easy to imagine that the same criticism would have been forthcoming in Sister Eileen's time. Accepting only part of the Evidence of a Witness 118 Before commencing a detailed analysis of the evidence in this case, I desire, in the first instance, to make clear the approach that I have taken to the evidence of a witness where I have found some, but not all, aspects of the evidence of that witness to be unreliable. Simply because I find against a party or a witness on one issue and reject some part of the evidence of that person, it does not mean that what remains is tainted, or otherwise lacks probative force, with the consequence that I should dismiss all the evidence of that person. The principles enunciated in the cases indicate that the trial judge is entitled to believe part of the evidence given by a witness and to reject the rest. After making an assessment of the evidence, after utilising the advantage of having seen and heard all the witnesses, and after forming an impression of each, the confidence that the judge reposes in a particular witness is assessed accordingly. Where evidence has a logical probative value, a judge will rely on it; where it contains discrepancies, displays inadequacies, is tainted or otherwise lacks probative force, the judge will, in all probability reject it or, at least, not rely on it. I mention some authorities that support those propositions. 119 In Dublin, Wicklow & Wexford Railway Co v Slattery (1878) 3 App Cas 1155, the observations of Lord Blackburn, who dissented on the main question on appeal, support the view that a judge may believe part of a witness' evidence and disbelieve another part. At 1201 he observed: "The jurors are not bound to believe the evidence of any witness; and they are not bound to believe the whole of the evidence of any witness. They may believe that part of a witness' evidence which makes for the party who calls him, and disbelieve that part of his evidence which makes against the party who calls him …" 120 In Australia the same principle applies. In Christmas v Nicol Bros. Pty Ltd (1941) 41 SR (NSW) 317, the Court considered a motion to set aside a jury verdict for the defendant in an action for negligence against a company and its employee arising out of the employee's negligent driving. Jordan CJ, who delivered the judgment of the Court, observed at 322: "… it would be for the jury who saw and heard the witnesses to decide whether they accepted their evidence. They were perfectly at liberty to reject the whole of their evidence, or to accept some and reject the rest, however intimately it might be associated with what they accepted, unless there is something to show that reasonable men could not take up such an attitude: Ward v Roy W. Sandford Ltd 19 SR (NSW) 172 at 185; Hammer v S. Hoffnung & Co Ltd 28 SR(NSW) 280 at 282-3." 121 A trial judge is not restricted in his or her assessment of a witness. By this I mean that if, on peripheral issues, the trial judge reaches conclusions adverse to the credibility of a party, it does not necessarily follow, consistently with such conclusions, that these must be findings adverse to that party on the issues that are central to the determination of the matter. There is no rule of law or practice that states that an adverse finding on any aspect in the evidence of a witness means that the whole of that witness' evidence must be rejected. 122 In S v M (1984) 36 SASR 316, a case that concerned a contest between a mother and a father for the custody of their ex-nuptial child, Walters J made observations about the extent to which a trial judge is at liberty to believe part of the evidence given by a witness and to reject the rest. Walters J, noting that the case was a custody contest, remarked at 319-320: "… it would not be right to say that in determining the weight and credibility to be given to the evidence of a witness, one should reject his or her entire testimony if parts of it are found to be untrustworthy, or even false and mendacious. Because part of his or her evidence is unreliable, it does not follow that other parts of it are unreliable and that the whole of his or her evidence should be disbelieved. So often, in a case of this kind, the interests or bias of one party and his supporting witnesses may exercise on their minds an influence of which they are unconscious and which leads them to give distorted, but yet not deliberately false, accounts of the matters to which they depose in evidence. It seems to me that in making his findings of fact, a trial judge is not bound to believe the whole of the evidence of any witness; he is at liberty to believe part of the witness's evidence and to reject the rest … I think I am free to accept or to reject the whole of the testimony of the applicant or the respondent, as the case may be, or to accept some part of it and to reject the rest, however intimately it might be associated with what I have accepted." 123 A similar conclusion has been reached by this Court. In Flint v Lowe (von Doussa, Higgins, Nicholson JJ, 23 June 1995, unreported) Nicholson J (with whom von Doussa J agreed) said at 11-12: "It is always the case that the jury or judicial officer charged with the duty of finding whether a charge is established beyond a reasonable doubt may accept whole or part or none of the evidence of any witness … Once the complainant's credibility on that issue was accepted, the evidence would not be tainted by the rejection of other evidence." 124 There are sections in the evidence of Mrs Cubillo, of Mr Gunner and of some of their witnesses that I cannot rely on. In making that statement, I do not thereby infer that either Mrs Cubillo or Mr Gunner deliberately lied in Court (although I remain puzzled about Mrs Cubillo's denial, adverted to later in these reasons, that she discussed her experiences at the Retta Dixon Home with Mrs Mai Katona). As Walters J noted in S v M the interests of a party may exercise on his or her mind an influence of which they are unconscious; such may well be the case here. Both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner showed objective signs of intense distress at times. At one stage during the trial, Mr Gunner had to seek medication. I am convinced that they have, with total conviction, concluded that they have a just cause to pursue the Commonwealth. I have no doubt that they believe that their experiences – what they might call their incarcerations – were legally, as well as morally, wrong. Armed with this powerful persuasion, there is the risk that, in some areas, they may have given distorted, but not deliberately false, accounts of matters to which they deposed in their evidence. In exercising this caution, I have chosen not to engage in a personal or subjective assessment of their demeanour. I would be entitled to have regard to their presentation in Court, but I prefer not to rely on that. I find more comfort in making an objective assessment of the evidence so that I can test whether it appears to be inherently improbable, or whether it matches other evidence, or whether it is logically probative. I am conscious of the views of Kirby J on this subject in State Rail Authority of New South Wales v Earthline Constructions Pty Ltd (in liq) (1999) 160 ALR 588 at 617: "There is a growing understanding, both by trial judges and appellate courts, of the fallibility of judicial evaluation of credibility from the appearance and demeanour of witnesses in the somewhat artificial and sometimes stressful circumstances of the courtroom. Scepticism about the supposed judicial capacity in deciding credibility from the appearance and demeanour of a witness is not new. In Société d'Avances Commerciales (Société Anonyme Egyptienne) v Merchants' Marine Insurance Co (The Palitana), (1924) 20 LI L Rep 140 at 152 Atkin LJ remarked that 'an ounce of intrinsic merit or demerit in the evidence, that is to say, the value of the comparison of evidence with known facts, is worth pounds of demeanour'." 125 I do not think that the evidence of either Mrs Cubillo or Mr Gunner was deliberately untruthful but I am concerned about their ability to recall, accurately, events that occurred so many years ago when they were small children. I am also concerned that they have unconsciously engaged in exercises of reconstruction, based, not on what they knew at the time, but on what they have convinced themselves must have happened or what others may have told them. I will identify these areas of concern when I discuss the detail of their evidence. Documents 126 During the course of the trial numerous documents were tendered: some by the applicants, some by the Commonwealth. In the overwhelming number of cases, these documents were either tendered by consent or, at least, without objection. With a few exceptions, the authors of those documents are now dead. However, the documents have been received into evidence and the question now arises: what weight is to be given to their contents? Some of them cover issues that have been hotly disputed. In such a case, where the author cannot be tested under cross-examination, should any, and if so what weight, be attached to the document? Normally, in the absence of the author, a court would not be inclined to attach weight to the contents unless there were other corroborative sources. But this is not a normal case. Furthermore, if I adopt that attitude in respect of some documents, should I not adopt it in respect of all documents? Putting to one side those cases where the parties agree that the contents of particular documents are accurate, would there be any justification for me relying on the contents of some documents, such as reports and memoranda from a patrol officer to his immediate superior, whilst not relying on the contents of other documents (of which a report that came to be known as "the Dentith report" is a notable example). One suggestion was that documents that were in the nature of official records should be afforded their face value but that no weight should be attached to a document if its contents were challenged. That does not seem to me to be a practical or an equitable solution when, because of the extreme delay in the institution of these proceedings, the author of the document is dead. 127 My solution is to have regard to the contents of all documents that have been received into evidence and to have regard to the contentions (if any) that have been raised with respect to the contents of any such document. I will also have regard to any other evidence that might lend weight to the acceptance of the contents of the contentious document. Thus, for example, the allegations that were made in the Dentith report are far from foreign to other items of evidence about the character of Mr Des Walter, the missionary at the Retta Dixon Home who is said to have viciously assaulted Mrs Cubillo. In the case of the Dentith report, I see no reason why I should not accept it at face value. It finds general support in the evidence of Mrs Cubillo and Mrs Katona. Its contents also rest conformably with what Mr McCaffrey, who was then the Acting Director of Native Affairs, wrote about Mr Walter. The Relevant Legislation 128 In considering the claims that Mrs Cubillo has made against the Commonwealth, it will be necessary to consider, primarily, the provisions of the Aboriginals Ordinance 1918 (NT) ("the Aboriginals Ordinance" or "the 1918 Ordinance"). It was made by the Governor-General of the Commonwealth on 12 June 1918 and commenced the following day. The Aboriginals Ordinance repealed the earlier Aboriginals Ordinance 1911 (NT) and it also declared that the South Australian legislation – the Northern Territory Aboriginals Act 1910 (SA) - had ceased to apply to the Northern Territory. In the case of Mr Gunner, it will be necessary to have regard, not only to the provisions of the Aboriginals Ordinance, but also to the provisions of the Welfare Ordinance 1953 (NT) ("the Welfare Ordinance"). 129 By virtue of the provisions of the Northern Territory Acceptance Act 1910 (Cth) ("the Acceptance Act"), the Commonwealth accepted the Northern Territory from South Australia "as a Territory under the authority of the Commonwealth, by the name of the Northern Territory of Australia" – subs 6(1). At the same time, the Commonwealth also enacted the Northern Territory (Administration) Act 1910 (Cth) ("the Administration Act"), the object of which was to create a regime for the administration of the Territory by the Commonwealth. The Administration Act provided that, until the Parliament made other provisions for the Government of the Territory, the Governor-General might make Ordinances having the force of law in the Territory – subs 13(1). It was pursuant to this provision that the Governor-General made the Aboriginals Ordinance. 130 The office of the Administrator was created by s 4 of the Administration Act; it provided: "(1) The Governor-General may appoint an Administrator for the Territory. The Administrator shall be appointed by the Governor-General by commission under the seal of the Commonwealth, and shall hold office, subject to good behaviour, for five years. (2) The Administrator shall exercise and perform all powers and functions that belong to his office according to the tenor of his commission, and according to such instructions as are given to him by the Minister." 131 The Administration Act was amended significantly by the Northern Territory (Administration) Act 1947 (Cth) ("the 1947 Act"). Under the 1947 Act, a Legislative Council for the Territory was established having the power to make Ordinances for the peace, order and good government of the Territory – s 4U; however, no Ordinance could have effect until assented to by the Administrator. Furthermore, the Governor-General had a power of disallowance which, if implemented, had to be done within six months of the Administrator's assent. 132 Section 4 of the 1918 Ordinance provided for the appointment by the Administrator of a Chief Protector of Aboriginals; the section provided that the Chief Protector was to be "under the Administrator" and was to be "responsible for the administration and execution of this Ordinance." In 1939 the title of "Chief Protector of Aboriginals" was changed to "Director of Native Affairs". Henceforth, I will use the title "Director of Native Affairs" as a term of convenience when referring to the person who either held the office of the Chief Protector of Aboriginals or the office of Director of Native Affairs. Under the Aboriginals Ordinance, the Administrator was also empowered to appoint Protectors of Aboriginals (in addition to a Chief Protector); the office and title of Protector survived the 1939 amendments to the legislation. 133 Under s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance the Director was entitled at any time: "… to undertake the care, custody, or control of any aboriginal or half caste, if, in his opinion it is necessary or desirable in the interests of the aboriginal or half caste for him to do so, and for that purpose may enter any premises where the aboriginal or half caste is or is supposed to be, and may take him into his custody." 134 Speaking of the Aboriginals Ordinance in Kruger, Dawson J said at 79: "… the powers conferred by the 1918 Ordinance were required to be exercised in the best interests of the Aboriginals concerned or of the Aboriginal population generally." His Honour saw the prevention of disease and neglect and unsanitary conditions as a reason for the 1918 Aboriginals Ordinance. He said of it that it "would appear to have been motivated by similar concerns" to those of the South Australian legislation which the 1918 Ordinance repealed. Toohey J was of the same view; he regarded the legislation as beneficial, saying of it at 85: "The responsibility for welfare cast upon the Chief Protector is at odds with the notion that the powers conferred by the Ordinance are of themselves punitive …" 135 In s 3 of the 1918 Ordinance, the word "Aboriginal" was defined to mean any person who was: "(a) an aboriginal native of Australia or of any of the islands adjacent or belonging thereto; or (b) a half-caste who lives with an aboriginal native as wife or husband; or (c) a half-caste, who, otherwise than as the wife or husband of such an aboriginal native, habitually lives or associates with such aboriginal natives: or (d) a half-caste male child whose age does not apparently exceed eighteen years; or (e) a female half-caste not legally married to a person who is substantially of European origin or descent and living with her husband." 136 In 1953, the definition of "Aboriginal" was materially amended by Ordinance No 9 of 1953. The word thereafter meant: "(a) a person who is an aboriginal native of Australia or of an island which, being subject to the laws of the Commonwealth, of a State or of the Northern Territory, is adjacent to Australia: (b) a person who lives after the manner of, follows, adheres to or adopts the customs of persons described in paragraph (a) of this definition and at least one of whose ancestors was a person described in that paragraph; (c) a person, being under the age of eighteen years, at least one of whose ancestors was a person described in paragraph (a) of this definition, and – (i) whose care, custody, or control has been undertaken by the Director under section six of this Ordinance before the date when the Aboriginals Ordinance (No 2) 1953 comes into operation; or (ii) whom the Director has caused to be kept in a reserve or an aboriginal institution under section sixteen of this Ordinance, before the date when the Aboriginals Ordinance (No. 2) 1953 comes into operation; or (d) a person, at least one of whose ancestors was a person described in paragraph (a) of the definition, in respect of whom a declaration is made under section three A of this Ordinance … ." 137 Initially, the expression "half-caste" had been defined in the 1918 Ordinance as meaning: "… any person who is the offspring of parents, one but not both of whom is an aboriginal and includes any person one of whose parents is half-caste." That definition was omitted from the legislation in 1953 as were all other references to the term "half-caste". Whether a part Aboriginal person would or would not come within the definition of "Aboriginal" after the introduction of the 1953 amendment would be a question of fact to be determined in respect of each person by having regard to the parameters that were set out in the new definition. The 1953 Amendment was most significant in that it removed from the "section 6 control" of the Director those part Aboriginal people (who formerly fell within the definition of "half-caste") but who did not come within the new definition of the word "Aboriginal". 138 Ordinance No 9 of 1953 amended the 1918 Ordinance in many important respects. One such amendment was the introduction of a new section, s 3A, which (inter alia) empowered the Director of Native Affairs, subject to the approval of the Administrator, to declare that a person, one of whose ancestors was a person coming within the statutory definition of "Aboriginal", to be deemed to be an Aboriginal. There were two important prerequisites, however, to the making of any such declaration: · the Director must consider it to be in the best interests of the person; and · the person must request the Director to make the declaration. 139 Peter Gunner, being a child of only eight at the time when he was taken to St Mary's was not competent to make the request that was referred to in the statute; hence, as I see it, the authorities perceived the need for Topsy, his mother, to request the declaration. The making of that request by Topsy then triggered a memorandum dated 14 January 1957 from Mr Milliken, as the acting Director of Welfare, to the Administrator seeking the Administrator's approval to the declaration that Peter Gunner be deemed to be an Aboriginal. Mr Archer, the Administrator endorsed his approval on 15 January 1957 and Mr Giese made the necessary declaration a month or so later on 20 February. 140 In the interlocutory judgment I said at 411 that: "… the likelihood is that Mrs Cubillo would have come within the 1953 definition of 'Aboriginal'. She was then a person under the age of eighteen years, one of whose ancestors was an Aboriginal native of Australia; she was also a person whose care, custody or control had been undertaken by the Director under s 6 of the Ordinance. It is also likely, but for different reasons, that Mr Gunner would have come within the same definition on the ground that one of his ancestors (his mother) was an Aboriginal native of Australia and that he was a person living 'after the manner of' persons who were Aboriginal natives of Australia." An order of committal, using the powers of ss 6 and 16 of the 1918 Ordinance had been made on 18 August 1953 when the Acting Director of Native Affairs committed Lorna Nelson to the custody of the Retta Dixon Home until 8 August 1956, her eighteenth birthday. The applicants, in their final submissions, accepted those tentative conclusions. I now express them as formal findings. 141 Section 13 of the Aboriginals Ordinance empowered the Administrator to declare missions and other organisations to be "an aboriginal institution for the maintenance, custody, and care of aboriginal and half-caste children …". It also empowered the Administrator to nominate the Superintendent of such an "aboriginal institution". Subsequent subsections gave the Administrator powers of revocation and subject thereto subs 13(6) was in the following terms: "(6) Every aboriginal and half-caste child for the time being an inmate of any aboriginal institution shall be under the control and supervision of the Superintendent." 142 Section 13 of the Aboriginals Ordinance can stand alone, independent of the Director of Native Affairs and independent of s 6. In other words, the legislation permitted institutions to be established by appropriate charitable or religious bodies to care for Aboriginal and part Aboriginal children. That was the purpose of s 13. Independently of that provision, the legislation elsewhere (ie in s 6), authorised the Director of Native Affairs, in the circumstances postulated by that section, to undertake the care, custody or control of any Aboriginal or part Aboriginal child. Having exercised that power in a particular case, it was then open to the Director to cause the child to be kept in an institution that was operating under s 13. 143 Section 16 of the Ordinance empowered the Director to cause an Aboriginal person to be kept within the boundaries of any reserve or Aboriginal institution and, once there, he or she could be removed by the Director from that place to another like place. It was a provision of a different kind to the provision of s 6. As Brennan CJ said in Kruger at 37, on its face, it was not simply intended to serve the interests of the child over whom the power might be exercised. Nevertheless Dawson and Gummow JJ still saw a welfare purpose and a non-punitive purpose in s 16. For example, Dawson J said at 51-52: "… whilst s 16 did not contain any explicit requirement that the powers which it conferred were to be exercised for the welfare of Aboriginals or 'half-castes', it is clear enough that it was so circumscribed." Gummow J said at 162: "The power of the Chief Protector to take persons into custody and care under the 1918 Ordinance were, whilst that law was in force, and are now, reasonably capable of being seen as necessary for a legitimate non-punitive purpose (namely the welfare and protection of these persons) …" In discussing the extensive powers that are contained in s 16, Brennan CJ quoted, with approval, a lengthy passage from the judgment of Fullagar J in Waters v The Commonwealth (1951) 82 CLR 188 at 194-195: "The powers which the Director wields are vast, and those over whom he wields them are likely often to be weak and helpless. His responsibility is heavy. When he acts, every presumption has to be made in his favour. He must often act on his own opinion in circumstances of difficulty, and no court can substitute its opinion for his. But, on the other hand, the courts must be alert to see that, if that which is not expected does happen and he does mistake or abuse his power, the mistake or abuse does not go either undetected or unredressed. The material before me in this case, however, fails completely, in my opinion, to make even a prima facie case of abuse of power. It was argued that, both under s 6 and under s 16, the only consideration which should affect the discretion of the Director was the welfare of the particular aboriginal concerned. This may be so under s 6, but, so far as s 16 is concerned, it is, in my opinion, by no means the only legitimate consideration. Unlike s 6, s 16 contains no reference to the formation of any particular opinion on the part of the Director. The discretion given is in terms absolute. I have no intention, on such an application as this, of laying down any rules for the guidance of the Director. But I think I should say that, in my opinion, he may legitimately take into consideration a number of other factors in addition to the welfare of the particular aboriginal concerned, and that these include the welfare of other aboriginals and the general interests of the community in which the particular aboriginal dwells." 144 The powers of the Director under the 1918 Ordinance were exceptionally wide. He was the legal guardian of every Aboriginal: s 7 and his extensive powers under s 6 of the Ordinance enabled him to enter upon premises without a warrant and to take the person into custody – again without a warrant. Any decision of the Director was based upon his opinion; there was no obligation on the part of the Director to refer to any third party; his power was almost without restraint. That statement is subject to the qualification that when a discretionary power is statutorily conferred on a repository, the power must be exercised reasonably, for the legislature is taken to intend that the discretion be so exercised: Kruger. It is also timely to emphasise that the power to take a person into custody could only be exercised when, in the opinion of the Director, it was necessary or desirable in the interests of the person to do so. Thus the power in s 6 "to undertake the care, custody, or control" of children was conditioned on the opinion of the Director of Native Affairs that it was necessary or desirable in the interests of the child for him to do so: Kruger at 35 per Brennan CJ. It was not a power to be exercised adversely to those interests. This beneficial interpretation of the legislation must remain paramount in my opinion even though I am aware, as Murphy J said in Neal v The Queen (1982) 149 CLR 305, a case of criminal assault, that "Aborigines have complained bitterly about white paternalism robbing them of their dignity and right to direct their own lives": at 318. 145 The primary duties of the Director were set out in s 5 of the Ordinance. Subsection (1) of that section empowered the Director: "(a) to apportion, distribute, and apply, as seems most fit, under the direction of the Administrator, the moneys at his disposal for the purpose of carrying out this Ordinance; (b) to distribute blankets, clothing, provisions, and other relief or assistance to the aboriginals; (c) to provide, as far as practicable, for the supply of food, medical attendance, medicines, and shelter for the sick, aged and infirm aboriginals; (d) to provide, when possible, for the custody, maintenance, and education of the children of aboriginals; (e) to manage and regulate the use of all reserves for aboriginals; and (f) to exercise a general supervision and care over all matters affecting the welfare of the aboriginals, and to protect them against immorality, injustice, imposition and fraud." 146 It should be noted that the power that was identified in par 5(1)(a) to apportion, distribute and apply moneys was "under the direction of the Administrator", an inhibition that did not appear in the exercise of the remaining powers in subs 5(1). Then again, as has already been noted, subs 4(1) stated that the Director, in assuming responsibility for the administration and execution of the Ordinance, was "under the Administrator". 147 It is, in my opinion, important to note the variations in language in s 5 of the 1918 Ordinance. Paragraph 5(1)(e) alone, of all the duties, called for the Director "to manage and regulate" thereby requiring a direct involvement and active participation in all usual activities relating to reserves for Aboriginals. When one then comes to consider par 5(1)(f) and its use of the noun, "supervision", one is required to accept that that measure of involvement and participation is different and, indeed, lesser. To supervise, according to The Macquarie Dictionary (3rd Ed, 1997) is "to oversee" or "to have the oversight and direction" of some activity or event, whereas the dictionary states that to regulate means "to control or direct by rule, principle, method, etc.". In the application of par 5(1)(f) to the facts of this case, there is a prima facie case for saying that the power that the Director of Native Affairs had in respect of those part Aboriginal children who were residing at the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's Hostel was one of supervision and care over all matters affecting their welfare. That was a power to oversee or, as I would prefer to say, observe – but it was not a power to manage or regulate the institutions. There is, however, an important qualification to that proposal. It is this. The Retta Dixon Home was situated geographically, within the Bagot Reserve, that is, within an area of land that had been set aside as a Reserve for the use of Aboriginal people. That was not the case with St Mary's however. Being on a Reserve meant therefore that the powers in par 5(1)(e) were available to the Director to "manage and regulate" the use of the Reserve, which in my opinion would have included a power to "manage and regulate" the operations of the Retta Dixon Home. But, as I have pointed out, those powers of management and regulation would not have extended to St Mary's. 148 There were, in addition, significant powers reserved by the 1918 Ordinance to the Administrator. Even though he or she could not, nor could the Director, normally involve the Native Affairs Branch in the day to day management of an institution, the Administrator was able to wield very effective powers. In the first place, s 13 of the 1918 Ordinance authorised the Administrator to declare "any mission … home or other institution … to be an aboriginal institution for the maintenance, custody and care of aboriginal and half-caste children …". The Administrator could also name a person as "the Superintendent of the aboriginal institution". The Administrator was empowered to revoke the licence of an Aboriginal institution; he or she could also revoke the appointment of the Superintendent of such an institution. But the greatest lever that could be used was the financial aid that the Commonwealth gave to the institutions. Without that aid, the institutions were unable to operate. 149 Although the 1918 Ordinance did not give to the Director or the officers of the Native Affairs Branch a specific right of entry to and inspection of the institutions, subs 6(2) required "[a]ny person on whose premises any Aboriginal or half-caste" is "to facilitate, on the demand of the Director, the taking into custody of the Aboriginal or the half-caste". In addition, the Director's statutory obligation "to exercise a general supervision and care" could not be carried out effectively unless that right of entry and inspection existed. In my opinion, a power of entry and inspection should be implied, because it would have been necessary for the Director to have it so that the Native Affairs Branch was able properly to discharge its functions: Re Sterling; Ex parte Esanda Ltd (1980) 30 ALR 77 at 82 per Lockhart J; Australian Securities Commission v Bell (1991) 104 ALR 125 at 137 per Sheppard J. 150 By force of statute, an inmate was therefore placed under the control and supervision of the Superintendent for the time being of the relevant institution. Both the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's Hostel were declared to be Aboriginal institutions and different persons, at different times, were nominated Superintendents. Miss Shankelton was the Superintendent of the Retta Dixon Home throughout the whole of the time that Mrs Cubillo was an inmate. Sister Eileen Heath was the first of several Superintendents of St Mary's Hostel. She was succeeded, successively by Father Percy McD Smith, Archdeacon Rogers and Archdeacon Bott. 151 The Welfare Ordinance came into operation on 13 May 1957; it repealed the 1918 Ordinance. By the date of its commencement, Mrs Cubillo had left the Retta Dixon Home but Mr Gunner was still an inmate of St Mary's Hostel. The word "institution" was defined in the Welfare Ordinance in such a way that it included an "establishment approved by the Administrator … as an institution for the purposes of this Ordinance": ss 6 and 40. As the parties agreed that St Mary's Hostel was an approved institution for the purposes of the Welfare Ordinance, it is therefore necessary to note its material provisions because of their application to Mr Gunner. In the Welfare Ordinance, the Director of Welfare was the comparable officer to the Director of Native Affairs; he was also "under the Administrator", but was appointed by the Minister – not by the Administrator, who had previously held the appointing power. 152 A copy of the duty statement for the Director of the Welfare Branch can be found in a volume entitled "Respondent's common issues list of documents for inclusion in the Court Book". All of the duties that are listed are prefaced with the statement that the Director is "responsible to the Administrator" for the performance of those duties. Subject thereto, the Director of Welfare was responsible for the administration of the Ordinance. The Welfare Ordinance introduced the concept of a "ward" who was defined to mean "a person in respect of whom a declaration, made under section fourteen of this Ordinance, is in operation"; the Director of Welfare was, by virtue of s 24 of the Welfare Ordinance, the guardian of all wards. Subsection 14(1) empowered the Administrator to declare a person to be a ward: "if that person, by reason of- (a) his manner of living; (b) his inability, without assistance, adequately to manage his own affairs; (c) his standard of social habit and behaviour; and (d) his personal associations, stands in need of such special care or assistance as is provided for by this Ordinance." 153 Subsection 14(1) was not restricted in its operation to a particular class of persons; the Administrator's powers to declare a person a ward extended to all citizens of the Territory; it was not limited to Aboriginal or part Aboriginal people. The duties of the Director of Welfare in relation to wards were contained in s 8 of the Welfare Ordinance. In many respects they were directed to the issues that were covered by s 5 of the Aboriginals Ordinance, but in more detail. Paragraph (a) of s 8 contained the following provisions: "It is the duty of the Director – (a) in relation to the wards, to take steps – (i) to promote their social, economic and political advancement for the purpose of assisting them and their descendants to take their place as members of the community of the Commonwealth; (ii) to arrange as far as is practicable for the education of wards, including their vocational training, by collaboration with, and assistance to, the education authority and educational institutions and in other appropriate ways; (iii) to promote their physical well being, to inculcate proper habits of hygiene and sanitation and to improve their standards of nutrition and housing; (iv) to detect, prevent and cure disease and for that purpose to establish and maintain a liaison with the Commonwealth Department of Health; (v) to arrange for their vocational training and to obtain suitable employment for them in industrial and other enterprises and for this purpose to establish and maintain a liaison with appropriate organizations; (vi) to provide such relief and assistance as is necessary or appropriate; and (vii) to exercise a general supervision and care over matters affecting their welfare." 154 There was a power vested in the Director of Welfare in s 17 of the Welfare Ordinance to take a ward into custody and to order that he or she be removed to and kept within a reserve or institution. That power equated to a like power in ss 6 and 16 of the former Aboriginals Ordinance, but there were some important differences; for example subs 17(2) provided that the Director of Welfare was not to exercise the power to take a child into custody if by so doing: "(a) a child under, or appearing to be under, the age of fourteen years would be removed from his parents: or (b) a parent would be removed from his children. unless the Administrator has, in writing, authorized the Director so to do." Furthermore, the Director of Welfare could not act under s 17 unless the Administrator had first made the necessary declaration that the person was a "ward" and s 32 of the Welfare Ordinance gave the ward a right of appeal against such a declaration. 155 Following upon the introduction of the Welfare Ordinance, the Administrator declared Peter Gunner to be a ward under s 14 of the Welfare Ordinance on 13 May 1957. However, there was no evidence that the Director of Welfare made an order for the continued detention of Peter under s 17 of the Welfare Ordinance. 156 The additional duties of the Director as set out in s 8 of the Welfare Ordinance included the following: "(b) … (c) to supervise and regulate the use and management of institutions, other than institutions established by the Commonwealth; (d) to control the management of institutions established by the Commonwealth; (e) to supervise and regulate the use and management of reserves; (f) … (g) …" The language of these paragraphs differs substantially from the language that was previously found in pars 5(1)(e) and (f) of the 1918 Ordinance. The legislature did however maintain another distinction, but in this case it was a distinction between supervision and regulation on the one hand and control on the other; the Director "controlled" the management of institutions that had been established by the Commonwealth but there was only a duty to "supervise and regulate" the use and management of other institutions of which St Mary's was an example. The presence of the word "supervision" in par 5(1)(f) of the Aboriginals Ordinance and the verb "to supervise" in par 8(e) of the Welfare Ordinance invites an assumption that the two paragraphs have the same effect. I do not think, however, that such an assumption would be correct. In the Aboriginals Ordinance the powers of the Director are "general supervision" in par 5(1)(f) as against a power "to manage and regulate" in par 5(1)(e); in the Welfare Ordinance the power is "to supervise and regulate" in pars 8(c) and (e) as compared with the power of "control" in par 8(d). In each Ordinance there is a clear distinction drawn between the powers of the Director. In each case his or her powers differ. Notwithstanding the commonalty of the derivatives of supervision, I am satisfied that the power of "control" in par 8(d) of the Welfare Ordinance was intended to give to the Director a power that was greater than a power of supervision and regulation. 157 In addition to these duties, the Regulations that were made under the Welfare Ordinance enabled the Director to make certain demands on the Superintendent of an institution. For example, regulation 12 allowed the Director to require the Superintendent to make building alterations and additions for a hospital. Under regulation 13, the Director could insist on the provision of a canteen or a store. But none of those powers, extensive though they were, related to the day-to-day control of the institution. This led the Commonwealth to submit that the sum total of the statutory powers meant that there was no day-to-day control over the running of the institutions and virtually no statutory power to interfere in the general management of an institution. I consider that this submission did not reflect the true situation. The guardianship of the Director, the Director's duties of supervision and regulation, the licensing powers of the Administrator and huge funding assistance, when coupled together, meant the Director, the Administrator and the Commonwealth, in combination, were able to wield a substantial influence over the institutions. That influence was so great that, in the final analysis, the Administration could have closed down an institution. 158 The Northern Territory Report for the period 1 July 1953 to 30 June 1955 discussed the changes that were to be brought about by the Welfare Ordinance. In the first place, the new Welfare Branch of the Administration was made responsible, not only for those Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people who stood in need of special care and assistance, but also for welfare services generally for all sections of the community. The report stated that the Commonwealth Government's Aboriginal policy was one of assimilation and said that the legislative base for the carrying out of that policy was contained in the Welfare Ordinance, the passing of which, so it was claimed, "represented the most important single step yet taken in the approach to the aboriginal problem". The report explained that under s 8 of the Welfare Ordinance, the Director of Welfare had the specific duty in relation to the Aboriginal population "to promote their social, economic and political advancement for the purpose of assisting them and their descendants to take their place as members of the community of the Commonwealth". The report then stated that the Ordinance abandoned the merely "protective" approach of the Aboriginals Ordinance in favour of a positive "welfare" policy; it was also claimed that the new legislation abandoned the method of defining such terms as "aboriginal" and then making classes of persons covered by the definition subject to special legislation unless they obtain exemption from it. The report said that the Ordinance assumed that Aboriginals, as well as other Australians in the Territory, have full citizenship as of right and that this right is to be withheld only in cases where an individual is in need of special care and assistance. 159 A useful and interesting summary of the effects of changes to the legislation in 1953 can be found in an article by Mr Jeremy Long "The Administration and the Part-Aboriginals of the Northern Territory" in Oceania 37(3) (1967) 186. Mr Long was the former patrol officer with the Native Affairs Branch who gave evidence in the trial on behalf of the Commonwealth. In his article, he noted that he used the terms "integration" and "assimilation" as roughly equivalent terms for the process by which a group of people becomes like and part of another group with a different culture. He also used the terms to refer to policies and practices that have neither the intention nor the effect of segregating a minority group: at 187; n3. 160 Under the heading of "The Assimilation Policy", Mr Long wrote at 195-196: "In January 1953 legislation was introduced in the Legislative Council in Darwin based on this approach. The Aboriginals Ordinance was amended by removing all references to 'half-castes' and restricting the meaning of the term Aboriginal to include only 'aboriginal natives of Australia', and people with one Aboriginal parent who lived 'after the manner of' Aboriginals or who were under 18 and had been placed in the care of the Director of Native Affairs. Provision was made for the declaration of part-Aboriginals who proved incapable of looking after themselves and the debate in the Council centred on safeguards against the arbitrary use of this power but in the event it was never used. In practice these changes meant little for part-Aboriginals who lived in remote mission and settlement communities and for some on pastoral properties but for the part-Aboriginals of the towns of the Territory they meant real and unconditional legal equality. These amendments were intended only as an interim measure until the new Welfare Ordinance, introduced at the same session of the Council could become law. This Ordinance as originally presented omitted all reference to Aboriginals and provided for the proclamation by name of individuals who, because of their manner of living and needs, were to be declared 'wards' and would be subject to substantially similarly protective and restrictive provisions as Aboriginals and 'half-castes' had been under the Aboriginals Ordinance. It was understood that only Aboriginals – 'full-bloods' – would be so declared but in response to the outraged protests of the members of the Council that the terms of the Ordinance itself provided no guarantee that whites would not be so declared, this intention was made explicit by providing that no person entitled to vote could be declared and Aboriginals were not then so entitled. The Ordinance also, however, provided for the granting of relief and assistance to any indigent persons and thus provided legislative sanction for the relief of the needy without regard to race for the first time in the Territory. For the newly emancipated part-Aboriginals this meant that help could be provided without affecting their status as citizens and without classifying them with the Aboriginals. The Native Affairs Branch became the Welfare Branch and within this Branch a section was established to practise in social work in the general community, dealing with applications for relief, and with family and child welfare problems. Part-Aboriginals found their problems being handled not by 'Native Affairs' but by the same people and in broadly the same ways as the problems of white people in the community. Relics of the former policies remained. For some years it remained the practice to persuade the Aboriginal parents of 'half-caste' children to consent to the removal of such children to institutions without any real examination of the reasons for separating the child from its parents. It was repugnant to see an almost white child living among Aboriginals and this was reason enough to remove the child. This practice has ceased." 161 In his re-examination, Mr Long said that since writing that article, his archival research has indicated that in one section his language "may've been a little harsh". He said that he would not now say that it remained a practice to remove the children "without any real examination of the reasons for separating the child from its parents". 162 The case for the applicants, as submitted by Ms Richards during the course of final submissions, was that, initially, there had been a policy which she called "the removal policy" or "the half-caste policy". It was submitted that it related only to half-caste children and was, as such, based on race; it was not concerned with welfare. It was further submitted that "the assimilation policy" only really started in the 1950s and that it applied to both part Aboriginal and Aboriginal people. I cannot agree with either of these propositions. Although the word "assimilation" may not have become part of the vocabulary until the 1950s, the writings that I will identify show that "assimilation", in the sense of integration, operated from the early days of the twentieth century. Furthermore, integration of part Aboriginal children was not based on race; it was based on a sense of responsibility – perhaps misguided and paternalistic – for those children who had been deserted by their white fathers and who were living in tribal conditions with their Aboriginal mothers. Care for those children was perceived to be best offered by affording them the opportunity of acquiring a western education so that they might then more easily be integrated into western society. That sense of paternalism and that sense of care can be discerned in the decision of the High Court in the case of Namatjira v Raabe [1959] 100 CLR 664. The question was whether a declaration that a man by the name of Henoch Raberaba was a ward under the Welfare Ordinance was void. The appellant, Albert Namatjira, had been convicted of supplying liquor to a ward: viz:– Raberaba. The argument was that Raberaba should have been given the opportunity to show cause why he should not be declared a ward before any such declaration was made. The oral judgment of the Court was delivered by Dixon CJ who said at 669: "When he becomes a ward he occupies a particular status. It is a status which is so guarded that it is difficult to suppose that, if he really be a person who stands in need of special care and assistance, it would not operate to give him that care and assistance … Next it is proper to look at the background of the legislation. It is quite apparent that it took the place of legislation which dealt in terms with the protection of aborigines." 163 Dixon CJ discussed whether there was a need for consideration to be given to the individual circumstances of a person before he or she was declared a ward. The learned Chief Justice noted that over 15,000 people had been declared wards at the same time. The unsuccessful argument that had been advanced was to the effect that an opportunity should have been given to every individual, allowing him or her to show cause why he or she should not be declared a ward. As to the proposal that a person should not be declared a ward, without first being heard, Dixon CJ conceded that "one might readily yield to the view that some such implication was proper, provided that there was no context to control or rebut the implication": at 668. However, his Honour found the necessary rebuttal in the background to the legislation which he proceeded to describe as "legislation which dealt in terms with the protection of aborigines": at 669. In those circumstances, the Court unanimously reached the view that the Welfare Ordinance did not require that each particular case should be dealt with individually. Speaking for the Court, Dixon CJ said at 670: "We think that the power does authorize the 'block' declaration that persons are wards within the Welfare Ordinance which was in fact made." The decision of the High Court in Namatjira v Raabe was referred to with apparent approval by both Toohey J (at 77) and Gummow J (at 151) in Kruger. 164 I believe that these decisions of the High Court have established that the Aboriginals Ordinance and the Welfare Ordinance are not to be regarded as examples of punitive legislation. Rather, they were intended to be items of welfare or caring legislation. That conclusion does not, however, address the further questions – how was the legislation implemented? What policy or policies guided that implementation? They are the questions that are central to this litigation. Policy Issues 165 In resolving the issues in this case, there are two important factors that must be considered. Although they are, to a degree, inter-related, they nevertheless require independent consideration. The first of those factors is to inquire whether there ever was a policy of the Commonwealth that called for the removal of part Aboriginal children from their environment and their placement in homes, orphanages, missions or institutions. If there was such a policy of removal and detention what was it? Was it legislatively authorised? In the course of that exercise it would also mean investigating how, why and when it was implemented. If there was a particular policy of the Commonwealth that dealt with the subject of removal and detention of part Aboriginal children, the establishment of that policy as a matter of fact may – but not necessarily will – assist in determining the circumstances surrounding the removals and detentions of Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner. 166 The circumstances of their removals and detentions is the second factor; although it may be proved that some policy existed, that does not thereby mean that the policy was implemented in respect of the young Lorna and the young Peter. A benign policy might have been harshly applied against the interests of a particular child by a public servant for whom the Commonwealth was responsible: a harsh policy might have been benignly applied in the best interests of the child. 167 In a sense, it might be argued that the first factor does not fall to be decided in this case, even though the subject matter has permeated the evidence continuously. It is open to argument that any removal of a part Aboriginal child could only have been implemented by strictly operating within the terms of the Aboriginals Ordinance. Applying that argument, it would not matter whether the removing party had operated pursuant to some particular policy: a good policy might have been beyond the ambit of the legislation: an objectionable policy might have been within the legislation. For example, much has been heard about the "policy of assimilation" but neither the 1918 Ordinance nor the Welfare Ordinance refer to any such policy by name. The policy of the 1918 Ordinance when it was introduced was the care and well being of Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people. The policy of the Welfare Ordinance was the care and well being of wards. Arguably however, there were those who thought that the subject of assimilation was the best method of complying with the policies of the two Ordinances and subpar 8(a)(i) of the Welfare Ordinance and its objects of having wards "take their place as members of the community of the Commonwealth" is a clear invitation to adopt a policy of assimilation. 168 However, the applicants have pursued a submission that there was a policy of forced removal and detention of part Aboriginal children that did not take into consideration the interests of the children or their wishes or those of their families. The primary allegation that both applicants made in their respective further amended statements of claim was that their removals and detentions by the Director of Native Affairs were "unlawful and beyond the power conferred by sections 6 and 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance". Their alternative allegation was that they were detained by the Director of Native Affairs for a period beyond that authorised by law. In her pleadings, Mrs Cubillo pleaded that she had been detained at both the Phillip Creek Settlement and the Retta Dixon Home and the case was fought out on that twin premise. In her final submissions however, the allegation that she was detained at Phillip Creek was not pursued. 169 If the evidence were to establish that the Commonwealth did, in fact, have such a policy of forced removal and detention, that circumstance would become relevant in considering the second factor: that is, whether the removal and detention of Lorna Cubillo and Peter Gunner occurred in circumstances where they now have maintainable causes of action against the Commonwealth. The existence of a particular policy could be relevant evidence in determining whether a particular removal and detention was in the best interests of a child who had been removed and detained. Thus, for example, if it should be established that there was a blanket policy that all part Aboriginal children were to be removed and detained irrespective of their personal circumstances (and no such policy has been suggested) then the existence of such a policy would invite a prima facie finding that the removal of a child had been effected in circumstances where consideration had not been given to the personal interests of that child. 170 The applicants and the Commonwealth tendered numerous papers that had been obtained, in the main, as a result of archival searches. These documents established that, as early as 1911, there were writings at the Commonwealth level directed towards the removal of part Aboriginal children from their mothers. It will be necessary to set out selected extracts from these papers so that an attempt may be made to establish whether any, and if so, what formal policy existed on the subject and, if possible, the reasoning behind that policy. 171 The first of the documents to which reference should be made was a report dated 12 September 1911 from Mr FJ Mitchell, the Acting Administrator of the Northern Territory to the Minister for External Affairs. After recommending that "all half-caste children who are living with aborigines" be gathered in, Mr Mitchell said: "No doubt the mothers would object and there would probably be an outcry from well meaning people about depriving the mother of her child but the future of the children should I think outweigh all other considerations." This statement recognised three subjects which, in various permutations, can be regarded as three recurring problems. The first of them is the removal of children without their mothers' consent; the second is adverse community reaction; and the third is the placing of the child's interests, as perceived by public servants, above all else. 172 Professor Baldwin Spencer, writing as the Chief Protector of Aboriginals in 1912 said: "No half-caste children should be allowed to remain in any native camp, but they all should be withdrawn and placed on stations. So far as practicable, this plan is now being adopted. In some cases, when the child is very young, it must of necessity be accompanied by its mother, but in other cases, even though it may seem cruel to separate the mother and child, it is better to do so, when the mother is living, as is usually the case, in a native camp." The Professor had been commissioned a year earlier by the Commonwealth Government to compile a comprehensive report on the Aboriginal population of the Northern Territory. For that purpose he was made a Special Commissioner with control of the newly established Northern Territory Aboriginals Department. He was also appointed Chief Protector of Aboriginals for a term of one year. 173 Reports in 1913 and 1914 addressed the need to supply educational facilities for "the quadroons and half-castes". Discussing that subject in his report for the 1914-1915 financial year, the Administrator of the day wrote: "Mr Becket, Inspector of Aboriginals, reports that there are several half-caste children in the southern districts that it will be necessary to have brought under the same jurisdiction. Consequently, steps will be taken to enlarge the accommodation which is already inadequate." This entrenched paternalism, which many would say was misguided, also appeared in the report of that time from the local Darwin Headmaster: "I am convinced that the younger the half-caste children are removed from the contaminating influences of the native camps and introduced into the compound at Kahlin Beach and the aboriginal school, with their civilization and discipline, the speedier their progress will be and the better their chances of becoming useful members of the community of the Northern Territory." This statement showed that the author took it for granted that in all cases there were "contaminating influences" in "the native camps". No consideration was given to, nor was any allowance made for the human bond that would have existed between mother and child or for the enjoyment and happiness that the child experienced from his or her environment. 174 A report in 1922 from the Administrator to the Commonwealth Minister shows that the senior members of the Government were still wrestling with the "problem of the part Aboriginal". The Administrator's report suggests that, at that time, no official policy had been formulated. The Administrator wrote: "The solution depends to some extent on the general policy to be adopted towards them whether they are to be allowed to remain at the developmental stage of their coloured parentage and so gradually form a kind of helot class which will continue for a few generations and then disappear as it is presumed they have done in the older and more settled States or whether an attempt is to be made to raise them to the status of their white parents with the view to their eventual absorption in the white population. For the purpose of this report I assume that the latter rather than the former policy would be the one favoured by the Government, and we are thus brought to the consideration of the best means of giving effect to it." Although the word "assimilation" was not used in the Administrator's report, the expression "eventual absorption in the white population" can only mean a form of assimilation. This report is another example of an author taking for granted an issue that was clearly susceptible to challenge. By what right did he assume that raising the part Aboriginal children "to the status of their white parents" would be in their best interests? 175 The position did not seem to alter in the ensuing twelve months for in his next annual report the Administrator noted: "… I made recommendations in July, 1922, which would, I believe, if adopted, have been very beneficial, but I understand it was considered that further expert advice was desired in the matter, and that action has been deferred pending the receipt of it." Despite what might have been happening to part Aboriginal children at this time, it is clear from these last two reports from the Administrator that he did not consider that there was then in force any recognised policy with respect to the removal of part Aboriginal children from their families. 176 An interesting insight into the attitude of "superiority" towards the Aboriginal race may be gleaned from the contents of a letter that was written in August 1927 by the Prime Minister of the day to the Premier of South Australia. He said: "There are also at the Home at Alice Springs a number of quadroons and octoroons under five years of age who could hardly be distinguished from ordinary white children. My colleague [the Minister for Home and Territories] is assured that, if these babies were removed, at their present early age, from their present environment to homes in South Australia, they would not know in later life that they had aboriginal blood and would probably be absorbed into the white population and become useful citizens." The views of the South Australian Premier were also of interest. In rejecting the Prime Minister's suggestion that South Australia should take over responsibility for some of these children he wrote: "To give effect to the suggestion of the Minister that quadroons and octoroons under 5 years of age should be transferred from Central Australia to this State would be greatly to the disadvantage of South Australia, as it would be increasing an undesirable element in the population." 177 In 1927, Doctor Cecil Cook was appointed the Chief Protector of Aboriginals and the medical officer for the Territory. He played a very influential part in shaping the Aboriginal policy for the next eleven years. 178 In 1928 Mr JW Bleakley was appointed by the Commonwealth to conduct a special inquiry into Aboriginal matters in Central and North Australia. Prior to his appointment, he had been the Chief Protector of Aboriginals in Queensland. On 16 January 1929 he presented his report to the Prime Minister. In outlining the current situation in the Half-Caste Home in Darwin, Mr Bleakley wrote: "As a result of the policy in the past of rescuing half-caste children from the camps and sending them to a home for care and education, there are now 76 of these people in the home at Darwin … Females number 56 and males 20, as a result, apparently, of the practice of not removing the young males if the Protector is satisfied they are being looked after on the stations. As these young half-castes make useful station labour at an early age, the employers are reluctant to part with them." 179 The concept of "rescuing" the children does not immediately reconcile with the employers' reluctance to part with them, but there was, in this statement, an indication that the personal circumstances of some (at least) of the children were the subject of individual consideration – even if that consideration was melded to the interests of the employers. His report also contained references, in general terms, to the welfare of the individual for he wrote: "The object of the home is to save these half-castes from the degradation of the blacks' camp, properly care for and educate them, and fit them to take a useful part in the development of the Territory." Mr Bleakely then outlined the policy that he considered would be necessary to solve this "problem": "A definite policy, framed upon understanding the peculiar position and characteristics of the half-castes, and aiming at what is likely to be best for their future happiness and usefulness, should be formulated. Rescued from the camps and given opportunity for education and vocational training, they can be made an asset to the Territory. Left in their present position, they are more likely to be a menace, and, with what is an even more deplorable result, the increase of the quadroon element. All half-castes of illegitimate birth, whether male or female, should be rescued from the camps, whether station or bush, and placed in institutions for care and training. Even where these children are acknowledged and being maintained by the putative fathers, their admission to an approved institution for education should be insisted upon. The education should be simple in nature, but aimed at making them intelligent workmen and fitting them to protect themselves in business dealings. The vocational training for the boys should be in the trades already mentioned, as necessary for skilled station work, and for the girls, the domestic arts to make them not only good servants but capable housewives. On completion of their training, those recommended as suitable for outside employment should be transferred to the control of the Chief Protector, who would satisfactorily place them and exercise supervision as long as might be necessary." 180 It was his view that the Government should surrender the responsibility for this education to the missions. The use by Mr Bleakley of the term "all half-castes of illegitimate birth" shows that he was advocating a general or a blanket policy with respect to that group but it could not be said that his was an uncaring policy. It is plain that he personally considered that each child who was a "half-caste of illegitimate birth" living in a camp would be better off by being placed in an institution. It is interesting to note that he was so confident of his personal views that he did not even take time to consider how the child and the child's family might react to his proposal. Isolating the words of significance from the quoted passage, it is not unreasonable to summarise his view as one where "rescue" brings "care" and "education" and with that comes "happiness" and "usefulness". 181 In April 1929, the Commonwealth Minister for Home Affairs convened a conference of the representatives of missions, societies and associations who were interested in the welfare of Aboriginals, to consider the Bleakley Report. The conference approved the policy recommended by Mr Bleakley in relation to "half-castes". However, there was not unanimous support for his recommendations. Dr Cook, the Chief Protector of Aboriginals, disagreed, claiming that schemes of segregation disadvantaged the Aboriginals' freedom and removed "the source of cheap labour from struggling pastoralists". Dr Cook, who was supported by the Government Resident of North Australia, has been reported as saying: "In North Australia the policy has been to endeavour to save the white element in the half-caste from further dilution and to encourage the half-caste to qualify for and accept the duties of citizenship. So far from regarding the quadroon, as Mr Bleakley does as a menace even more deplorable, considerable care has been exercised in raising these delicate children, with a view to their future availability in the total breeding out of colour." 182 If Dr Cook was correct in stating the existence of such a policy, primary documents establishing its existence have not been produced. The Department of Home Affairs submitted a report containing summaries of Mr Bleakley's recommendations and Dr Cook's comments. In some areas, it favoured the recommendations in the Bleakley Report, but in a critical area, it rejected Mr Bleakley's proposal: in a Ministerial Press Release dated 14 July 1930 it was announced that the Government had decided to retain "the control and education of the half-castes by the Administration". In relation to "half-castes, quadroons and octoroons", the Government expressed in that Press Release general agreement with Mr Bleakley's recommendations under this heading, and continued: "General approval has been given to Mr Bleakley's recommendations regarding the collection and education of half-castes. It is considered, however, that the responsibility for such education should rest with the Government and not with the Missions." The presence of the words "the collection and education of half-castes" could point to the implementation of, if not the continuance of, a practice of bringing in young part Aboriginal children – ostensibly because it was considered to be in the best interests of the children to do so. 183 In 1931 the Secretary of the Prime Minister's Department wrote to a Mr AN Brown. Mr Brown was the "Honorary Secretary" of some organisation, the name of which has been obliterated in the photocopying process. The letter commenced with the following paragraph: "With reference to your letter of the 12th June asking for certain information regarding the care of aboriginals in the Commonwealth, I forward herewith copy of a statement setting out the policy of the Commonwealth Government in respect of aboriginals in the Territories under its control." That statement of policy is a twenty-four page document and, as may be imagined, it descends into substantial detail. Before discussing the contents of the statement, it will be useful to quote a further sentence from the letter from the Prime Minister's Secretary: "In framing its aboriginal policy, the Government's main objectives have been the welfare of the natives and their general advancement." 184 The statement of policy covered numerous aspects of Aboriginal life that need not be discussed in these reasons. Important as they were to the general welfare of the Aboriginal population, it is not necessary to have regard to the details of medical officers who were then employed in matters of Aboriginal health, to the details of control over Aboriginal employment, to the Government's policy on nomadic tribes and Reserves for Aboriginals and the treatment of Aboriginal prisoners. The section in the statement under the heading "Half‑Castes" is, however, important. Although this statement predated Mrs Cubillo's removal to the Retta Dixon Home by some sixteen years, it nevertheless represents a clearly identified base from which an examination of the Commonwealth's policy in respect of the treatment of part Aboriginal children can commence. For that reason, the section dealing with "Half-Castes" is set out hereunder: "Half-castes. There are two homes for half-castes, one in Darwin and one in Central Australia (at present temporarily situated at Jay Creek near Alice Springs). Plans had been prepared for the erection of new homes at Darwin and in Central Australia, but the matter was held up pending consideration being given to Mr. Bleakley's suggestions regarding the future policy to be adopted in connection with half-castes. In effect, Mr. Bleakley recommended that the crossbreeds with a preponderance of European blood should be transferred to European institutions, and that those with a preponderance of aboriginal blood should be transferred to the Missions. The Government has given very careful consideration to this recommendation, but has not adopted it, as it feels that the responsibility for the training and welfare of half-castes is one which should be retained by the Government and should not be transferred to other authorities. The new home for half-castes in Darwin cannot be proceeded with at present as funds are not available. The home at Jay Creek, Central Australia, is of a purely temporary nature. The greatest difficulty has been experienced in securing a site for the erection of the new home. The most suitable site is that at Temple Bar, but boring operations for water have not to date resulted in securing the quantity considered necessary. As an alternative to this site, the Telegraph Station, about two miles from Alice Springs may be converted into a home for half‑castes. This site will be quite available and alterations to the existing buildings can be readily carried out. The Chief Protector of Aboriginals is the legal guardian of every half-caste child until the child reaches the age of 18 years. Every Protector is, within his district, the local guardian of such children. As a matter of practice, the Chief Protector assumes control of the estates of half-castes recurrently appearing in the Debts Court. All claims on half-castes require to be lodged with the Chief Protector who also receives all payments of wages etc. due. All debts are paid off by the Chief Protector, who also ensures that a certain amount is retained in each account for saving. The Aboriginals Ordinance provides that no marriage of a female aboriginal (or half-caste) with any person other than an aboriginal (or half-caste) shall be celebrated without the permission, in writing, of a Protector authorised by the Government Resident to grant permission in such cases. In practice, no permission is granted for a white or a half-caste to marry an aboriginal woman. Half-caste males and, where possible, Europeans, are encouraged to marry half-caste girls. Half-caste girls are encouraged to marry whites approved by the Chief Protector. Both parties to every marriage are medically examined for venereal disease, tuberculosis, leprosy and other diseases before permission is granted. In the case of a white or a half-caste marrying a half-caste girl, the husband is required to contribute, for at least 12 months, to the medical benefit fund of the Territory, so that the wife may have the best available medical attention in maternity and other conditions, and to ensure continued medical supervision of the offspring. Half-caste girls are brought into the homes as soon as possible after reaching an age when they can be separated from their native mothers. They are reared and educated under constant medical supervision. After completion of schooling, the girls are taught domestic work, sewing and the making of clothes for themselves and shirts and trousers for men. When proficient, these girls are released for employment in approved homes under strict conditions regarding general treatment, preservation of morality and general training as citizens. In some cases, permission is granted for the girls to be engaged in employment under agreement with approved persons residing outside the Territory. In such cases, arrangements are made with the State aboriginal authorities for periodical inspection. A portion of the wages earned by the girls is paid into Savings Bank Accounts and is not permitted to be withdrawn except by authority of the Chief Protector. The Chief Protector of Aboriginals of North Australia states that his experience of this system indicates that the view commonly held that the half‑caste girl is naturally immoral is unjustified. None of the girls released under the system has so far failed to conduct herself properly. The training given to the male half-castes is of a utilitarian nature, and such as will make him useful in occupations which he can follow in the Territory. It is realised that it is of no avail to teach these boys and train them in callings which do not enter into the ordinary life of the community in North Australia and Central Australia. Regulations governing the conditions of employment of half-caste apprentices in town districts are in force. Regulations to govern conditions of employment in country districts have been prepared and will be promulgated at an early date." 185 The statement of policy concluded with an assurance that the Commonwealth: "… realises that it has a duty to perform to the aboriginal races of the Territories under its jurisdiction." 186 The matters in the section on "Half-Castes" in the statement of policy that I regard as important for the purposes of these reasons are: · the statement that the Government felt that the responsibility for the training and welfare of half-castes was one which should be retained by the Government; · the reaffirmation that the Chief Protector was the legal guardian and had control of the person and property of the half-castes; · the policy of bringing in half-caste girls at an early age without reference to any consensual arrangements with their families; and · the reference to a "utilitarian" training for male half-castes but without any reference to them being brought in. 187 In October 1932, the policy of removal of "half-caste" children received critical media attention. As a result, on 21 October 1932, the Minister for the Interior issued the following press statement: "Referring today to the statement in the press regarding half-caste children being taken from their Aboriginal mothers and sent to Darwin, the Minister for the Interior (Honourable J.A. Perkins) stated that it had been the practice for a number of years for the Chief Protector of Aboriginals in the Northern Territory to remove half-caste children from aboriginal camps and take them to the half-caste homes at Darwin and Alice Springs. At the Homes these children are educated and trained with a view to enable them to take their places in the industrial life of the Territory. On reaching the age of 21 years, a half-caste has the full rights of citizenship. It is desirable, therefore, that he should be educated in such a manner as to enable him to qualify for that privilege. If left in the camps, the half-caste is reared as an aboriginal, and on attaining the age of 21 years he is socially and industrially no more and no less than an aboriginal native except that he is entitled to vote as a white man. Reared under such conditions the half caste is an outcast, not wanted by either the aboriginals or the whites. Mr Perkins added that no appeal had been received by him against the action of the administration in removing the half-caste children in question from their aboriginal mothers." The press release was published in full in the Canberra Times. It was silent on the question of the mother's consent. To say that there had been no appeal from a mother is not to the point. On the other hand, the emphasis on education and the alleged benefits to be derived from education is apparent. 188 In a report on the Northern Territory by Mr JA Carrodus, the Secretary of the Department of the Interior, dated 20 November 1934, which was submitted to the Minister for his consideration, it was stated that the policy of the Administration was: "… to collect all half-castes from the native camps at an early age and transfer them to the Government Institutions at Darwin and Alice Springs." The report continued: "All these children are given an elementary education by trained teachers. The girls, when old enough, also receive instruction in domestic economy, but they are not trained domestics by the time they leave the Home because, usually, they are sent out to employment shortly after they reach the age of 14 years and their subsequent training is given them by their employers. It would be a boon to the women of the Territory, if they could apply for and obtain fully trained half-caste domestics whenever required. The training most desired is in cooking and laundry work." 189 The official attitude of the Commonwealth remained. In June 1935 the Department of the Interior prepared a ministerial reply to an inquiry from the Anti-Slavery and Aborigines Protection Society in London. The reply said in part: "The Society expresses the view that half-castes should be advanced to the standard of the white, instead of being thrust back to the misery and degradation of the aboriginal. In this regard, the policy of the Commonwealth Government is in complete accord with the views of the Society. In the Northern Territory half-castes are collected at an early age from the aboriginal camps, and taken to institutions where they are educated by trained teachers and subsequently given technical instruction. The girls are trained in domestic economy and, when old enough, placed under agreement with approved employers as domestic servants. The boys are trained in matters likely to assist them in obtaining employment in the Territory, principally in connection with the pastoral industry. The majority of them are apprenticed to approved pastoralists." 190 The initial Conference of Commonwealth and State Aboriginal Authorities was held at Canberra on 21 to 23 April 1937; it was opened by the Commonwealth Minister for the Interior, the Hon Mr T Paterson. The Commonwealth was represented by Mr JA Carrodus, and by Dr Cecil Cook. All of the mainland States were represented at the Conference. The Conference affirmed the approach taken by the Commonwealth in the Northern Territory to "the Half-caste Problem" by the following resolutions: "That this conference believes that the destiny of the natives of aboriginal origin, but not of the full blood, lies in their ultimate absorption by the people of the Commonwealth and it therefore recommends that all efforts be directed to that end. That … efforts of all State authorities should be directed towards the education of children of mixed aboriginal blood at white standards, and their subsequent employment under the same conditions as whites with a view to their taking their place in the white community on an equal footing with the whites." Once more the concept of "absorption" or, as I would have it, "assimilation", has surfaced at a very senior level. Once more, no regard was shown for the personal feelings of human beings whose children were to be taken from them. The McEwen Policy of 1939 191 In February 1939, the Minister for the Interior, the Hon J McEwen issued a statement that had earlier been approved by Cabinet entitled "Commonwealth Government's Policy with respect to Aboriginals" ("the McEwen policy"). The Minister commenced with the observation: "Hitherto the aboriginal policy appears to have been one of merely dealing with the physical needs of the natives as the needs become apparent." He later went on to say: "I have approached this problem of an aboriginal policy with the intention of endeavouring to reverse the attitude that has been adopted up to the present, so that instead of waiting for the need for some care or service to become apparent, the Government will establish for its own guidance some final objective and frame all its policy and action towards the reaching of that objective." 192 The Minister differentiated between children "born in wedlock of half-caste parents" and "those born of an aboriginal mother and a non-aboriginal father". Of the former he said that they were "usually cared for by their parents in the same manner as the children of whites". However, as to the second group, the Minister said that they were: "the responsibility of the administration". The Minister's statement continued: "For the half-castes who are the responsibility of the administration, there will be government institutions where, up to a certain age, the children of both sexes will be given the care necessary for young children and certain elementary education. Later they will go to separate institutions for each sex. Those who show outstanding ability will be carried on in ordinary educational subjects, but the bulk of them will be trained in some useful occupations. The girls will be trained in domestic service, cooking, sewing, and a limited number, perhaps, in typing and stenography. The boys will be trained in station work and occupations such as horse-shoeing, elementary bush carpentry, elementary mechanics, &c., so that those who prove adaptable will be able to work amongst windmills, motor cars and so on. They will provide a source from which pastoralists will become accustomed to recruit their junior station labour." 193 Under the heading "New Organisation" the Minister stated: "The policy which has been evolved is to create a separate Branch of Native Affairs in the Northern Territory, thus divorcing the aboriginal work from that of the Medical Service. The Native Affairs Branch will be placed under the control of an officer, with administrative ability and training in practical anthropology, who will function as Director of Native Affairs." 194 In formulating his policy, Minister McEwen consulted Professor Elkin and sought advice from him – not from Dr Cook – which gave some indication about the major changes that were to be made to the administrative personnel and structure of the Department. Professor AP Elkin had been appointed in 1933 to the newly established Chair of Anthropology at Sydney University. During the early 1920s, he had studied Aboriginal cultures in the north west, central and southern parts of the continent and had been "a prime mover in New South Wales for the establishment of an assimilation policy". In addition, he lectured patrol officers and acted as an adviser to Governments and other bodies on Aboriginal welfare matters. He died in 1979. 195 Mr EWP Chinnery, who had been seconded from his position in the Australian Protectorate of New Guinea, arrived in Darwin to take up duty as Director of Native Affairs on 18 April 1939. His appointment followed the change in the administrative structure of the Northern Territory Administration as indicated in the Minister's statement. One aspect of that change was the abolition of the office of Chief Protector and the establishment of the Statutory Office of Director of Native Affairs. Dr Cook retired at about the same time as the announcement of Mr Chinnery's appointment. The first members of the staff of the newly established Native Affairs Branch were the secretary, Mr VJ White and Messrs TGH Strehlow and Gordon Sweeney who were appointed patrol officers. Mr Strehlow, in later life, achieved fame as Professor Strehlow, noted as a linguist and anthropologist and for his contributions to the debate on whether the Australian legal system should recognise and enforce Aboriginal customary laws. Mr Sweeney was a graduate of Civil Engineering of the University of Adelaide and possessed a First Class Diploma from the Roseworthy Agricultural College, South Australia. Prior to his appointment as a patrol officer in 1939 he had worked as a lay missionary in charge of the Methodist Mission at Goulburn Island. Both these remarkable men are dead as are Mr Chinnery, Mr White and Dr Cook. 196 At about the same time, the Commonwealth also shifted towards the use of missions to supplement and assist in the care of part Aboriginals that had earlier been carried out by Government institutions. In his report to the Administrator dated 18 January 1940, Mr Chinnery discussed the placement of part Aboriginal children. He did not question the policy of removal; he only weighed the competing advantages and disadvantages of Government institutions and religious missions. He concluded: "After carefully considering the question, and after discussing the future of these part-aboriginal children with the various Missions, I have come to the conclusion that the Missions should be offered financial assistance and annual subsidies to take over the future training of all part aboriginal children in suitable places remote from the towns. I feel confident that given the necessary financial assistance to provide buildings, equipment and staff, and an annual sum, substantially less than the present cost to the Government, the Missions would agree to take over the children at present in the Institutions of Alice Springs and Darwin, and provide adequately for their training and preparation." What ultimately followed was the establishment by the Catholic Church of the Garden Point Mission at Melville Island and the establishment by the Methodist Church of its Mission on Croker Island. 197 The Government accepted Mr Chinnery's proposal and, despite the onset of World War II, the Commonwealth proceeded with its implementation. In a press release that was issued on 3 December 1940, the Minister of the Interior said that: "… the Native Affairs Branch, which had been created in February 1939, was making every effort to implement rapidly the Government's long-range aboriginal policy. One of the objects of this policy was the transference of the half-caste children from the Government institutions to the missions, away from the towns and settlements." 198 On 19 February 1942, the Japanese bombed Darwin; it was the first of sixty-four air raids. The consequences of the war arriving on Australia's front door were catastrophic for the civilian population. Schooling ceased; missions evacuated children. Those from Garden Point went to Carrieton in South Australia; those from Croker Island went to Oxford in New South Wales and the part Aboriginal children from Groote Eylandt went to Mulgoa in New South Wales. Miss Shankelton, who had not long arrived in Darwin, took charge of the evacuation of some part Aboriginal children to Balaklava in South Australia. As a consequence of the war, the Northern Territory came under Army rule and it was not until July 1945 that civilian control was re-established. 199 In 1942 Sir Paul Hasluck published his work Black Australians, Melbourne University Press, 1942. It was an historical work on the treatment of Aboriginals in Western Australia to 1900. In his epilogue, he was critical of the 1937 conference resolution that provided for the maintenance of the "uncivilised native in his normal tribal state", without making provision for his educational and vocational training: at 205. Sir Paul advocated that type of training to better equip the Aboriginal to participate in the general Australian community. 200 The extracts from the documents that have thus far been identified are sufficient, in my opinion, to justify a conclusion that the Commonwealth Government had, since about 1911, pursued a policy of removing some part Aboriginal children and placing them in institutions in Alice Springs and Darwin. The material is not sufficient to sustain a finding that this policy applied to all part Aboriginal children. On the contrary, it would seem that it did not have such a general application. The probabilities are that the policy was intended for those illegitimate part Aboriginal children who were living in tribal conditions whose mother was a full blood Aborigine and whose father was a white man. The Commonwealth, in its final submissions, claimed that it cannot be determined whether the policy was consensual or forced, and if it was forced, the extent to which that was so and was justified by normal welfare considerations. I agree that words to that effect are not to be found in the writings that were tendered in evidence. But there are two comments that must be made in respect of that submission. The first is that there were no words in the written material that would have prevented non-consensual removals. The second is that Aboriginal people would not have been concerned with the formalism of a Government policy. What would have concerned them would have been the practical implementation of that policy by patrol officers at the grass roots level. 201 By the time of the removal of the children from Phillip Creek in 1947 to the Retta Dixon Home, a perceptible change in attitude to the policy of removing part Aboriginal children from their families had started to develop. The need to obtain the family's consent was beginning to be openly discussed. On 7 February 1946, Mr Chinnery submitted a report to the Administrator. After quoting the powers of the Director under s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance, Mr Chinnery wrote: "In my opinion children should not be removed against the wishes of their parents except by Order of a Court, or if a Court is not practicable, by Order of the Director of Native Affairs after consideration of all the circumstances and discussion with the parents or native guardians of the children concerned." To emphasise his commitment, Mr Chinnery went on to add that he would be agreeable to an amendment to the Ordinance to accommodate his recommendation. The Administrator, Mr Abbott, wrote the secretary, Department of the Interior on 12 February 1946, quoting the text of Mr Chinnery's recommendation and adding his personal endorsement: "I agree with Mr Chinnery that action of this kind should not be taken without the direct approval of the Director of Native Affairs. In my experience, action has only been taken when the child's life is at stake through negligence or other causes, and I do not know of any children at present who have been removed." 202 With the advent of the Second World War, little, if anything, had been published about matters of policy. That was confirmed in a Ministerial Statement that was published on 25 October 1946 by the Minister for the Interior, Mr Johnson only eight months after the correspondence from Messrs Chinnery and Abbott. Significantly, the subject of family consent was not addressed. The Minister said that the Government's policy for "the welfare of natives" in the Northern Territory had been formulated before the war but that it had not been possible to implement that policy during the period of the war. The Minister proceeded to summarise the Government's policy without making any reference to the removal of part Aboriginal children. The statement then continued by making reference to the policy in relation to different groups, one of which was "children being educated by mission organisations, financially endowed by the Government". In referring to that group, the Minister said: "Boarding schools conducted by missions in the north and south with Government assistance; the training and preparation of children, inspections by women protectors and educational officers; and preparation for adult life, employment in industry throughout the territory or settlement on the land." 203 Although the Minister made no reference to the McEwen policy, nothing of importance was disclosed in evidence as having emerged during the intervening war years. It would seem therefore that the policy to which Mr Johnson was referring in 1946 was the McEwen policy of 1939. 204 A conference between the Administration and pastoralists took place at Alice Springs at which an attempt was made to impose a standard rate of pay for Aboriginal employees. The Minister deferred implementation until the pastoralists indicated their acceptance. The conference was an initiative of Director Moy and eventually regulations were made which implemented its proposals. Supervision of the regulations became the main task of patrol officers. A conference took place in Melbourne under the auspices of the Department of Reconstruction and Training to consider vocational training of Aboriginals. The conference was chaired by Professor Elkin; Directors of Native Affairs from the Territory, Western Australia, Queensland and South Australia attended. One item for discussion was the means by which Aborigines could be fitted into the white economy through State and mission schools. Professor Elkin pressed the view that all Aboriginal children should be educated. It was resolved that should be done, the aim being to fit them for the ordinary avocations of life. In his 1946-1947 annual report Administrator Driver endorsed "the absorption of part Aboriginal children in our public schools". 205 On 3 February 1948, a conference of Commonwealth and State Aboriginal Affairs Authorities was held in Canberra. Minister Johnson said that Director Moy had been appointed to the Territory to give effect to Government policy "whereby we insist that the native as far as possible will be helped and trained in every way to fit him for usefulness in the future". The Wave Hill incident and the Leydin Report 206 One of the most distressing incidents that occurred during the long course of this trial was to read the reports of two men; both of them are now dead and are unable to give the Court the assistance that might have been derived from their oral evidence. The first of them was Mr Ted Evans and the other was Mr RS Leydin, who in 1949 and 1950, was the Government Secretary. 207 Mr Evans submitted a report dated 23 December 1949 to the Acting Director of Native Affairs; it was entitled: "Report on Patrol of Wave Hill – Timber Creek Areas." The first section of this report dealt with various inspections and inquiries that Mr Evans had made at different stations; he then moved to a section of his report entitled: "Movement of Part Aboriginal Children." The opening sentence was, in my opinion, significant in several respects. It read: "Only five part-aboriginal children of those listed by you in your memorandum dated 26th August, 1949, were removed by me." Mr Evans then listed the names and ages of five children who were all removed from Wave Hill. Following that, he listed the other children, together with his reasons for not removing them. In the first place, Mr Evans' reference to the Acting Director's memorandum (which was not produced) showed that the act of removal was not an ad hoc decision by a patrol officer: the removal had been carried out pursuant to a direction of a superior officer. In the second place, it showed that the identities of the children were known to the superior officer in advance of the decision to remove them. This therefore meant that, by some unknown source, information had been gathered about these children and passed back to the superior officer. Unfortunately, that is where the trail ends; it is not possible to state what information was gathered or what reasoning process lead to the decision to instruct Mr Evans to remove the children. This gap typifies the difficulties that the parties have had to face in preparing this case for trial. In turn, it typifies the difficulties that now confront the Court in its endeavours to make findings of fact. Before coming to the section in Mr Evans' report that is so distressing, it is of interest to note what he also wrote about the children who were not brought in. One was said to have died and two were listed as "absent". Another, who was listed as "absent", was the subject of a promise by a police officer that he would "hold" the boy for Mr Evans' next visit. Two others had been "removed" by another police officer. The report about David from Waterloo Station is, however, the most interesting: "Hidden by his mother who had received advice of my intentions from Wave Hill. She has promised to hand him over next year." Mr Evans then described the scene at Wave Hill when the five children were taken away by aeroplane: "Comment. The removal of the children from Wave Hill by MacRobertson Miller aircraft was accompanied by distressing scenes the like of which I wish never to experience again. The engines of the 'plane are not stopped at Wave Hill and the noise combined with the strangeness of an aircraft only accentuated the grief and fear of the children, resulting in near-hysteria in two of them. I am quite convinced that news of my action at Wave Hill preceded me to the other stations, resulting in the children being taken away prior to my arrival. I endeavoured to assuage the grief of the mothers by taking photographs of each of the children prior to their departure and these have been distributed among them. Also a dress length each was given the five mothers. Gifts of sweets to the children helped to break down a lot of their fear and I feel that removal by vehicle would have been effected without any fuss." This passage can only evoke the highest emotions of sympathy both for the mothers and the children; indeed, some might even be able to spare a thought for the poor patrol officer who was the instrument of such grief. Mr Evans' report came to the attention of Mr Leydin; he wrote the Administrator, quoting sections from Mr Evans' report including the one that is set out above. He said in his memorandum that he was assured by the Acting Director of Native Affairs that the contents of Mr Evans' report represented "the practice of removing half-caste children from their aboriginal mothers to Darwin or some other suitable centre for care and education". 208 Mr Leydin then informed the Administrator in the strongest possible terms: "I cannot imagine any practice which is more likely to involve the Government in criticism for violation of the present day conception of 'human rights'. Apart from that aspect of the matter, I go further and say that superficially, at least, it is difficult to imagine any practice which is more likely to outrage the feelings of the average observer. It is not questioned that adequate legal power resides in the Director to take aboriginal and part-aboriginal children into custody in their own interests. The Aboriginal Ordinance provides that he is the legal guardian whether a parent exists or not. If children, however, are to be forcibly taken from their mothers despite what Mr. Evans calls distressing scenes which he hopes never to experience again, it is of the greatest importance that the Minister's approval of such a policy can be readily stated, and further that the administration of such a policy can be shown to be just and considerate." 209 In the social furore that has erupted over "the Stolen Generation", little, if any, recognition has been given to the compassion and courage of those, such as Mr Evans and Mr Leydin, who were prepared, openly and officially, to express their concerns for the part Aboriginal children and their families. However, the correspondence from Mr Evans and Mr Leydin leaves unanswered many questions. Was it the strangeness of the aeroplane that caused the distressing scene? After all, Mr Evans wrote that "removal by vehicle would have been effected without any fuss". That seems highly unlikely when a study is made of Mr Leydin's letter – unless, of course, he misinterpreted Mr Evans' report. 210 The manner in which Mr Leydin couched his letter is also open to an interpretation that he was hearing about force being used for the first time, for he was advocating, in the strongest terms, that the Minister's approval should be obtained and that the administration of any such policy should be shown to be "just and considerate". 211 Although it was his view that the removal of the Wave Hill children would have caused distress, Mr Milliken said, during the course of his cross-examination, that it was his understanding of this incident that the author was inferring that the distress was caused by the use of the aeroplane which, with its noise, was presumably unknown and frightening to the children. No doubt that would have contributed to their alarm, but I am satisfied that it only played an exacerbating part in the frightening distress that they suffered when, as would appear from the report of Mr Leydin, they were forcibly removed from their mothers. 212 A powerful and emotional example of dissent was brought out during the cross-examinations of Messrs Penhall and Lovegrove when an extract from Charlie Schulz's book was read to them. The late Charlie Schulz ran Humbert River Station in the Victoria River Downs district. He published his memoirs in a book co-authored by Darrell Lewis, called Beyond the Big Run, University of Queensland Press, Qld, 1995. At page 146-7, he told of an incident that he witnessed involving the removal of two children from their mother: "A law came in that all the half-caste kids had to be taken away from their mothers and taken up to Darwin. Well you never heard of such a ridiculous law in your life. It was the saddest thing I ever saw – little kids dragged away from their mothers. You picture, any of you, anyone that's got family now, a policeman coming along when your kids are only six and seven years old and dragging them away from you. Can you imagine how they'd scream, and the turn they'd put on when they're taken away from their mother? I was involved in such a case at [Victoria River Downs] one day when I came over to catch the mail plane. That particular plane was flying straight through to Darwin and when I was on the airstrip I saw these two kids there, hanging to their mothers. Their blackfella fathers were there too. At last the plane was ready to go. The pilot sat up in the seat and I hopped in, and the next minute a policeman was there, a fella by the name of Jack Potts. He brought the kids over to the plane and they took fright then. He grabbed one and when he went to put it in, it hung onto its mother. I admired the lubra. She turned round and she grabbed one and she kept on saying to him, 'Don't you worry, you're all right, you go to Darwin and learn lessons.' You could see it was against her will that she was doing all this. I was sitting up in the middle of the plane and didn't want anything to do with it. The pilot didn't want to get involved either. He just sat there all the time while this shivoo was going on. The mother grabbed her kid and got up in the plane. Potts brought in the other one, a little boy, but when the little girl's mother went to jump out of the plane the kids followed her down, and went to jump out too. She turned round to me and said, 'You hold'im boss, you hold'im.' God, I didn't want anything to do with it. It had nothing to do with me. Then the little girl took a half-hitch around her mother's hair. She got one finger wound around it, and I'm damned if the mother could get away from her. Christ, I'll never forget that until my dying day. I said to Potts, 'Why don't you let the poor little buggers alone? Let them go!' He said, 'Oh I might lose me job.' 'Yeah,' I said, 'your job'll be all right. There'd be too big a stink go up if you did your bloody job over that!' I don't know whether he just wanted to be a dinkum policeman or what – the bastard was howling himself! I'll never forget that you know, crying him-bloody-self! And if I wasn't crying I wasn't far from it." The book was not received into evidence and I cannot regard its contents as evidence in the trial. The purpose in setting out the quoted passage from Mr Schultz's book is because it was put to Mr Penhall and to Mr Lovegrove in their cross-examinations. 213 The following exchange took place between Mr Rush QC and Mr Penhall: "Would that - is that the description that you read in the book of the removal of the children? --- I presume it was, yeah. And is that sort of description of the removal of children from their Aboriginal mothers why you agreed that patrol officers described it as the most hated task? --- That would be one of the reasons, yes. And insofar as Mr Schultz sets out his attitude to the policy in that book, you would agree that it was an attitude that was generally held by members of the Northern Territory community? --- No, I wouldn't agree with that. You wouldn't agree with that? --- No. You would say that in relation to the circumstances that he described, that sort of removal, as far as the community of the Northern Territory was concerned at the time, was acceptable? --- No, it was a - the removal of the children was accepted in some areas; it was not accepted in others. I mean, it was - I can't generalise that his opinion was the opinion of the general Northern Territory population. The removal that he describes in that book that I've just read to you, I put to you, would not be a removal that in any way would be agreed with by the general population of the Northern Territory at the time? --- Putting it that way, yes, the general population wouldn't agree with it." Contrary to the views expressed by Mr Penhall, Mr Lovegrove was prepared to agree in cross-examination that the type of removal referred to in Mr Schultz's book, if true, and the Wave Hill removal that was referred to in the Leydin memorandum would have been completely unacceptable to the general community of the Northern Territory at the time. 214 Another example of public outrage at the treatment of part Aboriginal children was the Mulgoa incident in 1949. That concerned a group of children who had been evacuated from Darwin to Mulgoa in New South Wales. The evacuation took place in 1942 because of the war and it was proposed, in 1949, to return the evacuees to the Territory. There were newspaper reports that one of the children, a fourteen year old girl called Joyce, was being forced to leave New South Wales against her will. Out of these reports a ground-swell of opposition arose to the forced removal of the children. 215 The question of official Government policy was raised by the Director of Native Affairs, Mr FH Moy; he had taken up the position in place of Mr Chinnery. He wrote the Administrator on 20 March 1950. After setting out the provisions of ss 6 and 7 of the Aboriginals Ordinance Mr Moy said: "In a statement of the 'Commonwealth Government Policy in respect to North and Central Australia' issued during 1931, the following extracts are set down:- 'To collect half-castes and train them in institutions to enable them eventually to take their places in the ordinary life of the community.' 'Half-caste girls are brought into the homes as soon as possible after reaching an age when they can be separated from their native mothers.' The abovementioned extracts are the only reference to an approved Government Policy in available relevant files." Mr Moy continued in his report that, prior to the Second World War, "half-castes were removed regularly" but that facilities and personnel were not available "to undertake these duties" during the war years and so, as a result, "no removals were effected". Mr Moy then explained that there were now (ie in 1950) a number of children "to be brought in who are much older than when they normally would be separated from their native mothers". 216 The clinical coldness of this report was not tempered by the next paragraph in Mr Moy's report: "Although Section 6 of the Ordinance gives wide powers to the Director, wherever possible it is the policy of this Branch to remove the children from their native mothers as soon after birth as is reasonably possible. However, it will be appreciated that this course is not always possible for the following reasons:- (a) Half-caste births are sometimes not known for some years; (b) The mother takes the child 'bush'; (c) Locating half-caste children in remote and difficult country." 217 Mr Milliken had not seen this document prior to giving evidence and was reluctant to acknowledge that it represented either the policy or the practice of the Native Affairs Branch in 1950. In so far as Mr Milliken did not join the Branch until 1955, his reticence is understandable. But Mr Moy was the Director of Native Affairs and had held that position since 1946. Who better to inform the Administrator on matters of policy and practice? I see no reason why the contents of Mr Moy's memorandum of 20 March 1950 should not be accepted in these proceedings as some evidence of the guidelines that were used at that time by the Director of Native Affairs and his officers when deciding whether or not the Branch should involve itself in the removal of part Aboriginal children to an institution. 218 The practice of removing part Aboriginal children from their families and bringing them in for education continued. Examples of written records that referred to that practice are as follows: · the letter of 19 September 1950 from Mr Leydin to the Director of Northern Territory Affairs, Department of the Interior, in which he wrote: "The removal of part-aboriginal children from pastoral properties is continuing under the supervision of a Patrol Officer working in conjunction with a Nursing Sister. Recently four children were removed from the Borroloola area and two from Daly River. They will proceed from the Aboriginal Inland Mission, Darwin, under supervision, to Garden Point and Croker Island Missions." · Mr Leydin's letter dated 13 November 1950 to the Director of Northern Territory Affairs is more detailed: "Patrol Officer J. R. Ryan, accompanied by Mrs. Ryan, who is a trained Nursing Sister, recently visited Groote Eylandt during a tour of inspection of the Roper River and coastal district. They are at present returning from the Daly Waters district bringing several part-aboriginal children, who will be placed in one or other of the various missions. Mrs. Ryan accompanies her husband on these tours, taking into custody all part-aboriginal children found in Native camps or living under conditions unsuitable to their welfare. It has been found that Mrs. Ryan's presence greatly alleviates the shock of parting Aboriginal mothers from their children, where the occasion demands. Furthermore the children experience far less distress during the journey to the receiving home at the Aboriginals Inland Mission, Bagot Settlement. The continuance of this practice is most desirable, especially in the interests of the mothers and children." · Mr Ted Evan's report dated 19 October 1951 to the Director of Native Affairs advised that four part Aboriginal children were "removed from their native environment during the patrol". Mr Evans wrote: "The removal of each child was effected harmoniously and without any distress on the part of the mothers and vindicates the policy of educating the native mind to an appreciation of the benefit to be gained by the part-aboriginal child being brought up in a separate environment." He then continued in his report that there were seventeen more children to be brought in. He named their locations and then added: "The process of educating and preparing the mothers for the eventual separation was continued in each case, and I am confident that each child will eventually be willingly handed to my custody." 219 Subsequent events, to which reference will later be made in these reasons, will show that there were material changes in attitude towards the subject of the removal of part Aboriginal children; those changes commenced well before Peter Gunner left Utopia in 1956 for St Mary's and continued thereafter. On the other hand, there is no evidence that would suggest that the position in July 1947, when Lorna Nelson was taken from Phillip Creek to the Retta Dixon Home, was any different to that prevailing in March 1950. In other words, it would be reasonable to proceed, in my opinion, upon the premise that the official view of the Native Affairs Branch about the removal of part Aboriginal children in July 1947 was fairly represented by the Director's letter of 20 March 1950 to the Administrator. 220 Dr Duguid, the noted humanitarian and surgeon, who had been instrumental in the establishment of Ernabella Mission, was reported in the Press on 23 October 1951 as saying that the policy of the Federal Government in separating part Aboriginal children from their mothers was wrong. The concerns expressed by Dr Duguid were not unique. On the contrary, they were representative of growing public opinion that did not approve of any policy of removing part Aboriginal children from their families. The day after Dr Duguid's statement was published, Mr Moy provided the Administrator, Mr FJS Wise, with a statement of the existing policy and practice in relation to the removal of part Aboriginal children. After referring to the powers and responsibilities of the Director of Native Affairs as set out in ss 5 and 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance, Mr Moy set out the policy, as he understood it, of the Native Affairs Branch in the Northern Territory: "It has always been the policy of the Native Affairs Branch in the Northern Territory to remove part-aboriginal children from their native environment into institutions where they may receive education, vocational guidance and in general fit them for their absorption into the community on attaining adult age. There are four such Institutions in the Territory – at Garden Point, Croker Island, and the Retta Dixon Home, Darwin, in the north and St Mary's Hostel in Alice Springs. In addition, male part-aborigines from the Northern Territory are also admitted to St. Francis House, Semaphore, South Australia. Patrol Officers, under my direction, are requested from time to time to endeavour to remove certain part-aboriginal children from their native environment on cattle stations and other places, and these officers prepare the mothers of these children for the eventual separation. It is impressed upon them the advantages to be gained by the children and the disadvantages of allowing them to remain in the camp. The matter is discussed with the tribal husbands. If, at the first visit, the parents are loth (sic) to part with the child the matter is left until the next visit when another attempt is made and the process of 'educating' the parents is continued. Eventually (and a period of two years may elapse between the first attempt and final success) the child is willingly handed to the custody of the Patrol Officer. Under these circumstances there is no distress on the part of either party. In fact it strengthens the confidence of the native peoples in the work of the patrol officer. There have been instances of mothers giving their part‑aboriginal children into the care of Native Affairs Branch officials without any prompting and, only this year, one aboriginal mother brought her two part-aboriginal children to Darwin and asked that they be admitted to one of the Institutions. All mothers are given the opportunity of accompanying their children to Darwin or Alice Springs and this offer is sometimes accepted. In this way they get some insight into the conditions and surroundings of the future life of their offspring, and they invariably return to their country satisfied. Some Patrol Officers take photographs of the children and forward prints to the mothers as a keepsake. This is always appreciated. In conclusion, the Field Staff of this Branch must maintain harmonious relations with the full-blood aborigines in their districts if their work is to be successful, and they accordingly do nothing that would upset that harmony. The removal of part-aboriginal children is one of their more difficult tasks, but I am confident that this work is done in a spirit of understanding, appreciation and co-operation." Mr Moy's statement, less than two years after Mr Leydin's report, is an early example of a strong change in the attitude of a senior public servant to the removal of part Aboriginal children. It indicated that attempts were then being made to obtain the mother's consent, although he did not go so far as to say that mothers had a choice in the matter. The contents of his statement were also a vast improvement on the clinical detachment that was evident in his letter to the Administrator dated 20 March 1950. 221 Exhibit A14 is one of the more important documents that was tendered during the trial. It is a letter dated 21 November 1951 from Mr Wise to the Secretary of the Department of Territories in Canberra. It concerned the critical allegations that had been attributed to Dr Duguid. After some introductory remarks, Mr Wise set out the terms of a Press Release that he had issued in response to Dr Duguid's allegations. The release was based on Mr Moy's statement. It was in these terms: "For many years it has been the practice to bring part aboriginal children, living under tribal and nomadic conditions, to Darwin so that they may be cared for and educated at an appropriate establishment. Some of these children are at Croker Island Mission Station, Garden Point Mission Station, the Retta Dixon Home, Darwin, St. Mary's Hostel, Alice Springs, and St. Francis House, Adelaide. The transfer of a child to a more favourable environment calls sometimes for the exercise by a Patrol Officer of a high degree of patience, tact and understanding, and I am satisfied that the officers of the Native Affairs Branch carry out this delicate and difficult task humanely and with the knowledge that the move is essential in the child's interests." 222 The Administrator's letter then went on to deal with some further issues that had been raised by the Minister's representative with the Acting Director of Native Affairs. In addressing those issues the Administrator substantially adapted sections of Mr Moy's letter when he wrote: "Aborigines are human beings with the same basic affections that we have, and the aboriginal mother has a real love for her children, especially those of tender age. We cannot expect the normal aboriginal mother to appreciate the reasons why her part aboriginal child should be taken from her. In effecting the removal of part aboriginal children from their mothers these factors must be taken into consideration, and, to ensure that the least upset is caused to the mother and child, methods have to be employed to suit the circumstances of each case which calls for tact, understanding and sympathy on the part of the officer. Patrol Officers, under the Director of Native Affairs, are required from time to time to endeavour to remove certain part aboriginal children from their native environment on cattle stations and other places, and it is the duty of these officers to prepare the aboriginal mother for the eventual separation in the best interests of the child. The mother is therefore impressed with the advantages to be gained. The matter is also discussed with the tribal husband. If the officer is not successful on his first visit and the mother does not part with the child, other attempts are made later until such time as the child is willingly handed to the custody of a patrol officer. Under these circumstances there is no distress on either the part of the mother or child. Since this method has been employed there have been instances where mothers have given part aboriginal children into the care of Native Affairs Branch without persuasion. Where possible, arrangements are made for the mother to accompany her child to Darwin or Alice Springs, as the case may be; the separation is then more gradual. The policy is to win the confidence of the mother and other relatives of the children, and as far as possible, ensure that the removal is made with the least upset to the mother and child." 223 I interpret that section of the letter as inviting the reader to infer that the children are only removed by gentle persuasion and with the informed consent of the mother. Such an interpretation comes as a result of statements such as "there is no distress on either the part of the mother or child" and the reference to arrangements being made for the mother to accompany the child. But does such an interpretation accord with the truth of the matter? Were these the words of a senior public servant who had the best interests of the part Aboriginal children at heart or were they nothing more than pious hypocrisy? We shall never know because Mr Wise is dead and so his writings cannot be tested under cross-examination. In fairness to him however, the probabilities are that he believed in what he wrote because his letter was, in material respects, a reproduction of what Mr Moy had written; it seems reasonably obvious that Mr Wise was, at the least, relying on what his Director had told him. What then of Mr Moy's opinions; unfortunately, he also is dead and so his opinions and his knowledge cannot be tested. 224 In this same letter, the Administrator reported details of the number of part Aboriginal children who had been removed from the care of their mothers in the Northern Territory during the preceding two years; he wrote that forty-two children had been removed in a two year period – a number which, to many, would appear to be very low if there was, as the applicants have alleged, "a general policy of removal and detention" of part Aboriginal children to institutions. The particulars of the children showed that they were removed in the following circumstances: "Removed from full-blood aboriginal camp 23 At request of parent 12 Mother unable to maintain due to health 1 Irresponsible mother (disinterested and offering no objections) 1 No definite information available (probably removed from full-blood aboriginal camp)." 5 225 If the Administrator's letter correctly recorded the state of affairs, one might think it appropriate to assume that the twenty-three (or perhaps twenty-eight) children who had been "removed from full-blood aboriginal camp" had been removed with the informed consent of their mothers. Unfortunately, that is not spelt out clearly and it would not be appropriate in my opinion, to draw such an inference. However, if I proceed upon the premise that these figures can be accepted as truthful (and there has been no suggestion that they are false) they do not support suggestions of widespread, indiscriminate removals of part Aboriginal children. 226 The report of the Administrator dated 28 February 1952 to the Secretary, Department of Territories in Canberra listed statistical details of the children who had been removed from their communities, their ages and the institutions to which they had been removed. The report stated that the basis of the Government policy of Native Affairs was: "gradual assimilation of coloured people into the Australian community" adding that those who were: "… most easily assimilated are persons of mixed blood, provided that they are able to enjoy from an early and impressionable age the medical care, training, teaching and general living conditions available to the community at large." According to the report, a total of forty-five boys and sixty-five girls had been placed in one of four institutions in the six years between 1946 and 1951. The statistics were as follows: Boys Girls St Mary's Hostel 6 16 Retta Dixon Home 7 11 Garden Point Mission 12 11 Croker Island Mission 20 27 45 65 These are bare statistics; they do not disclose the reasons for the placements. How many were forcibly removed against the wishes of their family? How many were removed, either at the request of or with the informed consent of their families? How many were removed because they were neglected or abandoned or in need of medical care and attention? In a six year period, these numbers represented an average of about fifteen placements per year throughout the Territory. Even though one forced removal would be regarded today as one too many, the numbers in the Administrator's report, if accurate, do not support an argument that there was a large scale policy of forced removals occurring in this period. 227 Some, but not all, of the Administrators' reports contained statistical information that disclosed the number of part Aboriginal children of school age in the Territory and the number of those children who were in one or other of the institutions. This information was collated by the Commonwealth and presented as part of its written submissions. The Commonwealth, in its compilation went back to 1910 and included, where available, census statistics of adults and all children. I will limit myself to the period 1947 to 1961 and to part Aboriginal children of school going age. In considering these figures, it must be remembered that some of the part Aboriginal children in the institutions were there at their parents request and that others were there because they were neglected or destitute and in need of care. In presenting its submissions, the Commonwealth noted that the institutions, on occasions, held some children outside school age; the available figures do not identify those children however. (The symbol n/a means that no figures are available. Financial Year Part Aboriginal Children in Schools Part Aboriginal Children in Institutions 1947 n/a n/a 1948 n/a n/a 1949 332 n/a 1950 409 n/a 1951 396 n/a 1952 441 373 1953 535 425 1954 n/a 407 1955 625 368 1956 675 355 1957 733 384 1958 802 337 1959 815 315 1960 n/a 306 1961 n/a 293 228 The Administrator's report of 28 February 1952 recognised that objections would be taken on humanitarian grounds, but it continued that, despite the difficult and delicate nature of the problems, "partly coloured children should continue to be removed". The Hon Paul Hasluck MP 229 As Minister for Territories, Mr Paul Hasluck (as he then was) received a letter of concern about the removal of part Aboriginal children from Mrs Edna Rockliff, the joint secretary of the Status of Women's Council of the Australian Association for the United Nations. His reply, dated 23 November 1951, addressed the subject in detail. Although it was not a Ministerial Statement, the calibre and reputation of Sir Paul justifies quoting extracts from his letter and relying on them. He acknowledged that there was a policy of removal, saying: "For many years past, under successive governments, the policy has been that, where half-caste children are found living in the camps of full-blood natives, they should, if possible, be removed to better care so that they may have a better opportunity for education. The theory behind this policy is that, if the half-caste child remains with the bush tribe, he will grow up to have neither the full satisfaction in life which the tribal native has nor the opportunity to advance to any other status." In that opening statement there was a claim that the policy was for the benefit of the individual. That theme was pursued in the next paragraph of the Minister's letter: "This policy is applied with care and discretion and a full recognition on the part of the Administration that the aboriginal mother has the same affections as every woman. The patrol officers are required, from time to time, to visit the various tribes of full-blood natives and, if it is decided that the advantage of the child will be best served by removal, the patrol officers endeavour to prepare the aboriginal mother for the eventual separation and to impress her with the advantages which her child will gain. The objective is to have the child willingly handed over to the custody of the Department of Native Affairs and, where possible, the mother is permitted to accompany the child to make the separation more gradual." History may not treat the Minister kindly, but he nevertheless ended his letter by saying: "The purpose of the action taken is to serve the interests of the children and to give them the chance of living at a better standard of life. I have again asked the Administrator to ensure that, in the application of this policy, every care and sympathy must continue to be shown for the natural feelings of the people concerned." There was, in the letter, an unstated assumption that the standard of life that would await the child would always be better than life with his or her mother in a tribal environment. Mr Stahl, who was then acting as the Director of Native Affairs, proceeded to advise all patrol officers on 3 January 1952 of the views of the Minister as expressed in his letter to Mrs Rockliff; he added that the Acting Administrator had instructed that: "… the intentions of the Minister's comments as repeated above be fully complied with in all actions involving the removal of part aboriginal children." 230 On 25 January 1952, Mr Leydin wrote the Secretary, Department of Territories, in answer to a request for further information about the removal of nine children. Mr Leydin discussed the children by name and summarised the details of each child's removal. The letter claimed that five of the nine children, Arthur, May, Sydney, Barbara and Harold, were removed with their mothers' consent and that one mother accompanied her child to Darwin. Two children, Mabel and Hector, were removed at their mothers' requests and both mothers accompanied their children to Darwin. Mr Leydin reported that the mother of another child, Christine, "was irresponsible" and that "the child was neglected". He added that "the mother was disinterested and raised no objection to the removal of Christine". The last of the children was a four-year old girl, Mitzi. As to her, Mr Leydin had to report that it was an instance where "unfortunately, the full consent of the mother was not obtained" by the person who removed her. Mr Leydin then went on to report that some months later patrol officer Ted Evans visited the mother: "… and the reasons for and advantages to be obtained by the removal of her daughter were explained to Mitzi's mother who gave no indication of resentment because of the separation of the child from her and, in fact, agreed Mitzi would be better cared for in her new environment at the Mission. She was given a photograph of her daughter … ." 231 The case of Mitzi showed that a child was removed from her mother without the consent of her mother. The Government Secretary also acknowledged – perhaps with insufficient emphasis – that "some distress was caused". But the fact that a patrol officer later visited the mother, bringing her a photograph of her daughter, was not consistent with an arbitrary, uncaring, policy of forced removals. I must be quick to point out that I am here talking about policy: I am not talking about how different patrol officers may have enforced that policy. Just as I am ready to accept the evidence of Mr Penhall that he never removed a child from his or her mother, so I am equally ready to acknowledge that acceptance of that evidence does not lead to a conclusion that there were never any cases of forced removals. 232 Dr Ann McGrath, an historian, was called by the applicants to give evidence on the limited subject of contemporary attitudes to the policy and practice of removal of part Aboriginal children in the Northern Territory between 1947 and 1963. She conducted a survey of primary documents, contemporary works and secondary sources relevant to prevailing attitudes amongst the general community in that period concerning that policy and that practice. She referred to the extensive adverse press coverage with respect to the Mulgoa children as evidence of community concern and disquiet about the forced separation of part Aboriginal children from their parents. Her opinion, based on that survey and her own knowledge of the history of Aboriginal and white relations, was that there was disquiet and sometimes deep concern about the general policy and practice of removal of Aboriginal children from their families. I accept Dr McGrath's opinion. It was supported by other material that was tendered in evidence. There were, for example, the reported views of Dr Duguid, the letters of inquiry from Mrs Rockliff and, most telling of all, the Leydin memorandum. 233 Following upon the Minister's letter to Mrs Rockliff and the distribution of a copy of it to the Administrator, Mr Wise wrote the Secretary, Department of Territories on 28 February 1952. His letter was based upon the premise that he and his officers in Darwin did not know whether Ministerial approval existed in respect of the policy concerning the removal of part Aboriginal children that was practised by the Native Affairs Branch. Mr Wise commenced his letter saying: "… it was the practice, prior to the war, to remove part-aboriginal children from aboriginal camps to places where they could be fed, clothed, taught and otherwise cared for." Later, he added that no record of Ministerial approval to a policy of removal of part Aboriginal children "can be found here" although he subsequently claimed that: "The basis of the Government policy of native welfare is gradual assimilation of coloured people into the Australian community." Maintaining that he was satisfied that the practice of removing part Aboriginal children "from native camps and nomadic conditions" to appropriate institutions was "in accordance with the Government's policy of assimilation", Mr Wise submitted for the consideration of the Minister his recommendations "that future policy" be based upon the principles enumerated in his letter. 234 Counsel for the Commonwealth submitted that, at all times relevant to Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner, the Commonwealth's policy was, except for cases of neglect or for reasons of health, that a part Aboriginal child would not be removed from his or her environment without the mother's consent. The high point in counsel's submission was the Minister's response to the Administrator's letter of 28 February 1952. The Administrator had concluded his submissions to the Minister with the following recommendations: "(a) Partly coloured children found in aboriginal camps or a similar environment may be removed, if the Director of Native Affairs thinks it necessary in the interests of the children, to a suitable institution. (b) No such child shall be removed without the written approval of the Director of Native Affairs. (c) The officer removing the child shall hold such powers delegated to him by the Director as may be necessary to effect the removal lawfully. (d) No child under the age of 4 years shall be removed except where the child is neglected or in need of medical care or the mother expressly requests the removal. (e) No child shall be removed except where it is neglected or is in need of medical care or the mother expressly requests its removaluntil the Director is satisfied that a painstaking attempt has been made to explain to the mother the advantages to be gained by the removal of the child. (f) The mother is to be permitted to accompany her child, if she so desires, to Darwin and Alice Springs, to satisfy herself that the child will be well cared for. (g) Aircraft shall not be used for the removal of a child except where no other method of transport is available. (h) All children shall be medically examined without undue delay upon removal at Darwin and Alice Springs. (i) A report shall be made by the Director to the Administrator immediately after the 30th June in each year showing the names and ages of children removed during the year, the circumstances of removal in each case, the name of the institution to which each child has been committed, and the general condition of and progress made by each child committed to an institution." It was agreed between counsel that Sir Paul made handwritten notations next to each recommendation; he wrote the word "approved" next to paragraphs (a), (b), (c), (f), (g), (h), and (i), but with the requirement that the report in par (i) be confidential and for official use only. As to par (d), the Minister saw no reason for an age barrier and noted that "the younger the child is at the time of removal the better for the child". In respect of par (e) he wrote "approved" but made an additional notation: "[P]lease insert commas, as shown, to make the meaning clear". The Minister marked on the submission a comma after the word "removed" and another comma following the first occurrence of the word "removal", so that paragraph (e) would read as follows: "(e) No child shall be removed[,] except where it is neglected or is in need of medical care or the mother expressly requests its removal[,] until the Director is satisfied that a painstaking attempt has been made to explain to the mother the advantages to be gained by the removal of the child." 235 In a memorandum dated 17 April 1952, Sir Paul formally approved of the recommendations in pars (a) to (i) subject to the qualifications evidenced by his notations and comments; he added the additional note: "… that the procedure outlined in your recommendations is in accordance with Government policy and, in the application of the policy, the interests of the child are to be paramount, while every care is taken to respect maternal feelings. Continued efforts are to be made to ensure that the children removed from their parents do, in fact, receive a full opportunity to learn to live after the European manner, and eventually to earn their living in the European community." · The notations that were made by the Minister are significant in the following respects: · they were silent on the subject of maternal consent; · but they called for respect for maternal feelings; · they emphasised that the interests of the child were paramount; and · they unashamedly advocated active assimilation: there was only an emphasis on living "after the European manner"; no mention was made of retaining Aboriginal culture or traditions. 236 The statement by Sir Paul in his memorandum of 17 April 1952 that the procedure that was outlined in the Administrator's report was in accordance with Government policy was formally conveyed to the Administrator by the Departmental Secretary. The secretary's memorandum also informed the Administrator that his recommendations had been accepted subject to the minor qualifications to which reference has already been made. The Minister's memorandum was used to compile an instruction dated 1 May 1952 for distribution by Mr Moy, the Director of Native Affairs, to his District Superintendent in Darwin, the Assistant District Superintendent in Alice Springs, and patrol officers Evans, Ryan, Penhall, Bray, Greenfield and Lovegrove. That instruction stated that, in effecting removals of "partly coloured children from Aboriginal camps", the principles in the nine points in paragraphs (a) to (i) (as amended and endorsed by the Minister) were to be observed. 237 Despite the submissions by the Commonwealth to the contrary, I cannot accept that the policy, as finally approved by Sir Paul Hasluck, meant that a part Aboriginal child could only be removed if his or her mother consented. To support that conclusion it is necessary to examine the manner in which the Minister altered the contents of pars (d) and (e) of the Administrator's recommendations. They can only be properly understood by having regard to the context in which they were written and by reading them in combination – not in isolation. The general context, of which the contents of pars (d) and (e) form part, was the subject of the removal of children. In the first place, the Administrator's recommendations and the Minister's approval are limited to "partly coloured children found in Aboriginal camps or a similar environment". Secondly, the decision to remove is reserved to the Director of Native Affairs – not the Administrator, nor the Minister nor the Commonwealth; thirdly, removal will only occur if the Director thinks it necessary in the interests of the child. Fourthly, the removal must be to a suitable institution. Fifthly, par (b) requires the written approval of the Director before any child is removed. The contents of par (c), dealing with powers of delegation, do not call for special mention, nor do the contents of pars (g), (h) and (i). 238 That then leaves for consideration the contents of pars (d), (e) and (f). Paragraph (f) is very important. Although it must be emphasised, it can be disposed of quickly: the mother of a removed child was to be permitted to accompany her child, should she wish, either to Darwin or Alice Springs so that she may satisfy herself that her child would be well cared for. What then of pars (d) and (e)? Bearing in mind that the general context is the removal of children and the second point made, that is, that it was for the Director to decide whether to remove the child, pars (d) and (e) must be read as offering guidance to the Director about the method and means by which he or she would make a decision. The initial premise in par (d) was a statement that a child was not to be removed except for one of three reasons: neglect, health or the request of the mother. If one of these three conditions existed, the child could be removed without further consideration. Paragraph (e) then builds on par (d). By the important placement by the Minister of the two commas, it removes the three issues of neglect, health and request from further consideration so that, effectively, par (e) reads that: "No child shall be removed [---] until the Director is satisfied that a painstaking attempt has been made to explain to the mother the advantages to be gained by the removal of the child." Neither that paragraph nor any other part of the policy, as approved by the Minister, called for the mother's consent, and the subject of consent cannot be imputed into the paragraph or the policy. The use of the words "painstaking attempt … to explain the advantage" and the direction that the mother be permitted to accompany her child indicates, quite clearly in my opinion, that every possible personal consideration was to be given to the welfare of the child and the consoling of the mother. But, in the final analysis, it is my conclusion that the policy allowed for the removal of a child against the wishes of the mother. 239 Counsel for the Commonwealth submitted that par (e) was capable of being read, and should be read, as meaning only that painstaking attempts should also be made when the child was being removed because of neglect or for health reasons. I do not think that such an interpretation is reasonably available. It would have the effect of merging the contents of the two paragraphs into the single proposition that no removals for any reason (except those made at the mother's request) were to be effected unless painstaking attempts were made to explain to the mother the advantages to the child. That would not be a reasonable proposition in the case of an abandoned child or a child who was in ill-health. 240 That does not mean however, that the Minister was countenancing a policy of arbitrary or uncaring removal or that the Minister was seeking to force a policy upon the Director so that the Director's powers were circumscribed. The Minister may be taken to have been aware of the legislation that reposed in the Director the power of removal and that the legislation provided that the power was only to be used in the interests of the child. Furthermore, that power of the Director is spelt out, quite clearly, in par (a) of the nine points. In summary, my assessment of the position in April 1952 is as follows: · the Director was entitled, at anytime, to undertake the care, custody or control of a part Aboriginal child, if, in the opinion of the Director it was necessary or desirable in the interests of the child to do so: c.f. subs 6(1) Aboriginals Ordinance; · a policy statement had been approved at Ministerial level dealing with the circumstances when such a child might be removed; it referred to the circumstance of the Director thinking it necessary, but it did not address the case where the Director might think it desirable; it called for a painstaking attempt to explain to the child's mother the advantages to be gained from the child's removal – but it also took for granted that it would always be in the best interests of the child to be removed; and · the Director was free, in the final analysis to remove a child without the mother's consent. 241 On the one hand, it can be emphasised that removal was only to be effected "in the interests of the children" and after "a painstaking attempt" had been made to explain to the mother the advantages that her child would enjoy; but, on the other hand, and contrary to the Commonwealth's closing submissions, the policy was silent on the subject of the mother's consent. A careful reading of the terms of the policy shows that, in the final analysis, a child could be removed against the express wishes of its mother. 242 Having been circulated in May 1952, the 1952 principles preceded Mr Gunner's removal from Utopia Station in 1956 but Mrs Cubillo had been taken to the Retta Dixon Home long before, in 1947. 243 Mr Penhall said that he thought that he could recall receiving a copy of the 1952 principles. The examiner asked him: "And how do you interpret that and apply it in practice?" Mr Penhall replied: "Well, as far as I was concerned, it laid out the guidelines and, as far as I'm concerned, I was never ever called to put it into operation." Mr Lovegrove said that although he could not remember receiving or reading a copy of the 1952 principles, there was nothing in them that surprised him. 244 The contents of the 1952 policy are of importance to both these claims, but they are not an immediate answer to either of them. Without in any way seeking to diminish their effect, it must be remembered that the critical exercises are to investigate the individual circumstances of each applicant. Mr Gunner's situation is the easier to explain: was his removal effected in accordance with the 1952 policy? If it was, did the 1952 policy accord with the statutory provisions as contained in the Aboriginals Ordinance? If there was any departure from those principles, was there an acceptable explanation for that departure? In Mrs Cubillo's case, the first, and harder task, will be the attempt to ascertain the details of the operational policy in existence at the time of her removal. 245 On 11 November 1952, Mr Gordon Sweeney, then the District Superintendent at Darwin, wrote Mr Moy, the Director of Native Affairs, describing the circumstances of three part Aboriginal children aged three, four and six. The body of the letter was as follows: "It was originally decided that the above children should go to Garden Pt. Mission. Committal Orders were made out and arrangements made for the children to proceed to Garden Point by Mission vessel on Oct. 29th. When the children were taken to the boat by Patrol Officer Ryan, there was no suitable woman on the boat to care for the children and the children were so distressed at being parted from their mothers and friends that Mr Ryan returned the children to Bagot. The children have been at the Retta Dixon Home Bagot since 30/5/52. When first admitted they were suffering from malnutrition; under the care of A.I.M. and Hospital staff the children are now making good progress and have settled well into the life of the Retta Dixon Home. After the 5˝ months in the Retta Dixon Home, it is not in the best interests of the children to cause another major upset in their young lives such as transfer to a strange institution and it is recommended that the committal orders be cancelled and the children remain at the Retta Dixon Home." Mr Moy approved Mr Sweeney's recommendation. If the contents of this letter are accepted at face value, and I see no reason why they should not be, it is an example of contemporaneous evidence that Mr Sweeney and Mr Moy were endeavouring to administer the policy of removal in a humanitarian way, with compassion, and with the interests of the children paramount in their considerations. Not all items of correspondence tell the same story however. On 1 October 1952, Mr McCoy, as Acting District Superintendent at Alice Springs, wrote Sister Eileen asking whether St Mary's could accommodate the four part Aboriginal children who were named in his letter. There was no suggestion that the children would be entering St Mary's with or without their families' consent. The letter was devoid of all personal details. The difficulty that confronts the parties and the Court is that there is no way of knowing whether Mr Sweeney's letter represented an exception to the rule or whether it represented the rule. Neither Mr Sweeney nor Mr McCoy is alive to have their evidence tested in the witness box. 246 Mr Wise, the Administrator, submitted a report to the Minister for the Interior, the Hon Paul Hasluck MP for the period 1 July 1949 to 30 June 1953. Surprisingly, the report stated that "only about 800 natives live a fully tribalised life" in the Northern Territory, adding that the native tribal structure and way of life "are in the process of disintegration". Mr Wise then discussed the subject of policy, saying: "The policy of the Government is so to direct and encourage the re‑establishment of the aborigines that they will eventually be assimilated as an integral part of the Australian community and will not be merely a group in contact with that community, but not accepted by it on a basis of social and economic equality. It is recognized that this process will take a long time but recent legislation provides the framework for the necessary development." 247 In January 1954, the Department of Territories, (formerly the Department of the Interior) wrote the Department of External Affairs commenting on the contents of a letter that had been received from the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom, a body which, from its letterhead, had a consultative status with the United Nations. The League had submitted to Mr Hasluck a copy of a statement of policy that it had drawn up and sent to its headquarters in Geneva with regard to Australian Aborigines. The statement said that the League sought, among other things: "Substitution of a 'mother and child' welfare system for the present practice of forcibly separating mother and child." 248 Allowing for the possibility that the League's recommendations "might be taken up with UNESCO", the Department of Territories briefed the Department of External Affairs on each of the matters raised in the League's statement of policy. As to "the mother and child" welfare system the Department wrote: "This recommendation is vague and, by implication, misleading as the Welfare system does not involve a present practice of forcibly separating mother and child. Separation is the exception used only where the child, whether European or native, is judged to need other care. Under the Aboriginals Ordinance, the Director of Native Affairs has the power to remove aboriginal children, deemed to live under neglected conditions, from their families, but this power has only been used in rare cases. Under the State Children's Ordinance of the Northern Territory a magistrate has similar powers to commit neglected European children to the custody of the State Children's Council." The applicants submitted that the Department's assertion that the power of the Director of Native Affairs to remove Aboriginal children from their families was exercised only in rare cases that did not accord with reality. The accuracy of that submission depended on the meaning given to the word "remove". If it related to removals that were effected both with consent and without consent, the applicants' submission might be accurate. But there are very few writings that have been tendered as evidence in this trial that established a lack of consent: there was Mr Evans' experience at Wave Hill and the episode involving Mitzi; there is also the evidence of Mrs Cubillo and her witnesses and Mr Gunner and his witnesses – all of which has yet to be considered. But, even if one were to allow for total acceptance of their claims, the evidence that is before the Court is not strong enough to challenge the proposition in the Department's 1954 letter that forced non-consensual removals were rare. That is not to say that the contents of the Department's letter were accurate; it merely means that the evidence that was presented to this Court does not amount to a sufficient challenge to the assertions in the letter. Once again, the tyranny of time affects the Court's attempts to state conclusions with confidence. 249 References to obtaining the consent of a mother before removing a child started to appear more frequently. In February 1954, Mr McCaffrey, who was then the Acting Director of Native Affairs, submitted a report to the Administrator entitled: "Coloured Children – Policy". In his report, Mr McCaffrey recorded the approval of the Minister to the 1952 policy as identified in the nine points. He wrote that it was the authority upon which the Native Affairs Branch operated. That operation was described by Mr McCaffrey in these terms: "The normal procedure is to remove coloured children from their native environment and place them in an Institution when they are of school-going or even at a later age. Where the children are illegitimate and born in a town they are removed to an Institution provided the mother is agreeable." 250 Mr McCaffrey wrote that it was Government policy that "the interests of the children are to be paramount" and that "every care is to be taken" to respect maternal feelings. Although the plain inference is that the mother's agreement was not required if a child was living in a native camp or a community outside a township, there was the reference to obtaining the mother's agreement in those circumstances where the child was illegitimate and living in a town. 251 Mr McCaffrey emphasised the claimed benefits of assimilation, saying that: "… continued efforts are to be made to ensure that the children removed from their parents do, in fact, receive a full opportunity to learn to live after the European manner, and eventually to earn their living in the European community." 252 Mr Ted Evans was the Acting District Superintendent at Alice Springs in 1954. On 12 May of that year he wrote to a station owner seeking help with respect to a part Aboriginal child. Although this letter did not address the subject of consent, it appears that it was nevertheless intended to be written with the best interests of the child in mind. The letter was as follows: "Part-Aboriginal child Fred […] and his mother, a fullblood Aborigine, are believed to be in the vicinity of your Station. In order that Fred may obtain status in later life, consideration is being given by this Branch to educating him at St. Mary's Hostel in Alice Springs. It would be appreciated if you would supply this Branch with information regarding the child and his mother, particularly as to their mode of living, whereabouts, etc. A Form of Information of Birth is attached for completion by you if this is possible. Your co-operation in this respect will be gratefully received." 253 At about the same time, 27 May, Mr JR Ryan, a patrol officer stationed at Katherine, wrote to Mr McCaffrey who was then the District Superintendent in Darwin. First, he spoke of two part Aboriginal girls saying: "I have no doubt but that I can get the approval of the mothers to remove them to Darwin." Later he said more generally: "Provided I get the respective mothers' consent and if I have your approval, I shall at a later date this year bring a number of the children to Darwin, preferably with their mothers." 254 Mr Greenfield, a patrol officer, submitted three reports in October 1954; the first dealt with an eight year old part Aboriginal boy. Mr Greenfield wanted to avoid the risk of the child undergoing initiation rites, a factor that points to the conclusion that the child, despite his parentage, was accepted in the Aboriginal community. He wrote: "Peter is now at the stage where the tribal elders are considering him for initiation. It is most desirable that this step be prevented as it would remain a tribal tie in his future life, and could be a factor to increase the constant risk of his return to degraded living after efforts to uplift him cease. I recommend that he be removed immediately, and propose to allow him to accompany me on the rest of my patrol, to be eventually delivered in Darwin. This plan worked well in a similar case handled in that manner by P.O. Evans, and the mother and step-father have been approached on the scheme with gratifying results. Peter seems very pleased with the idea, and at the moment there is no real barrier to the removal as recommended." The reference to the "tribal tie in his future life" is interesting. I can only interpret it as meaning that this patrol officer regarded retention of Aboriginality as being against the child's best interests. 255 In Mr Greenfield's second report he recognised that the mother's consent was only given reluctantly. He said: "This boy has now reached an age where it would be in the best interests of him and his mother to be removed to an institution. I have discussed this with [R--] and she has reconciled herself to losing Tony. I suggested that she take the child to Darwin herself, and the idea was readily accepted. It is recommended that arrangements be made for [R--] to fly with her child to Darwin." 256 The third report dealt with a girl, who was, as were the other two, then living at the Hooker Creek Native Settlement. In each of the three cases, the mother was Aboriginal and the father was believed to be European. Mr Greenfield recommended that the third child also be removed; he reported that the mother was willing to travel to Darwin with her daughter in company with [R--], the mother of the second child. Each of these reports indicated that Mr Greenfield adopted an attitude of obtaining the mother's consent. He did however express himself differently in an earlier report. He wrote: "The child is as yet too young to be parted from the mother, but when she is old enough she should certainly be removed to an institution. I warned the mother that this would be inevitable and she accepted this without comment." Expressed in those terms, his remarks pointed to an inevitability that the child would be taken with or without the mother's consent. 257 In May 1955 the Secretary of the Department of Territories wrote the Prime Minister's Department with information about the treatment of Aboriginals in the Northern Territory. One of the subjects discussed in the Secretary's letter was "assimilation" of which he said: "Assimilation which means the social advancement of these people to a standard comparable to that of the European community revolves round the inter-related subjects of health and education. Difficulties are experience in respect of the latter in that the social background of the native children differs so greatly from that of white children that their needs can be met at present only by a different education specially designed for them. Moreover, it is only in recent years that particular attention has been given to the education needs of native people. The education required is therefore not only special in the sense of being different from that required by the majority of the children, but it is also special because the methods most appropriate to the needs of aboriginal children are only now being worked out." 258 In order that the Minister might be able to answer a question asked of him in the House, the Administration advised on 1 April 1957 that forty-six Aboriginal children had been removed from their parents since 1950; of that number, eighteen were removed in 1950, meaning that in the remaining six years, the number removed was twenty-eight, an average of less than five a year. The request for the information was in the form of a teleprinter message and it suffers because of its cryptic language. It asked four questions and in the first question it used the expression "aboriginal children" when asking how many children had been removed from parents. But its last question, which asked about segregation in schools, included an additional sentence: "Please show also above information for mixed bloods". It is not clear whether this sentence was intended to be limited to the subject of segregation or whether it was intended to extend to the subject of removals. In any event, the reply does not distinguish between Aboriginals and part Aboriginals when listing the number of children who were removed. The reply did however claim that no child had been removed without the consent of the mother. The reply also claimed: "Mothers are advised that child may be visited at regular intervals at expense of Welfare Branch. This offer not availed of greatly but some mothers visit their children annually. Patrol officers advise mothers of welfare of child on occasion of station inspection and in some instances arrangements are made for photographs to be forwarded to the mothers." The 1952 Policy – its end 259 The introduction of the Welfare Ordinance and the repeal of the Aboriginals Ordinance in May 1957 brought about significant changes. The primary power of undertaking the "care custody or control" of a part Aboriginal child, as found in s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance, was not replicated in the Welfare Ordinance. Under the later Ordinance, the Director's powers were directed towards the care of wards; but, unless a part Aboriginal child had been declared a ward or committed by a court to the care of the State Children's Council, the Director of Welfare had no power to remove a child without the consent of the mother. The policy and the implementation of the policy in the form approved by Sir Paul Hasluck in 1952 had come to an end. 260 On 15 July 1958 Mr McCoy, the District Welfare Officer at Alice Springs, wrote the manager of a pastoral station; Mr McCoy said that he was writing in acknowledgment of the pastoralist's letter "in which you recommend the transfer of certain part-coloured children to St Mary's Hostel". Mr McCoy then went on to say: "The children can only be transferred with the consent of the mother in those cases where she is still alive, and I would need her thumb print on a form of consent, prepared by this Branch." 261 If the contents of this document are accepted as accurate, they serve as an indication that Mr McCoy, at least, had a personal view that children should not be removed except in cases where the informed consent of the mother had first been obtained. This could of course, be an example of one man's implementation of a policy being at variance with the policy; there is no answer to that proposition as Mr McCoy is dead. The Milliken Tests 262 Following the 1952 policy, the operational policy of the Native Affairs Branch was spelt out in further detail some seven years later in 1959. Mr Milliken said that when he first went to the Territory in 1955 he became aware of the fact that no tests had been formulated to guide patrol officers in determining whether a child should be removed to an institution. That statement was not accurate because the 1952 policy, as laid down by Sir Paul Hasluck, amounted to guidelines that were to be used by patrol officers when investigating whether a part Aboriginal child should be removed from his or her family. Nevertheless, Mr Milliken set about compiling a series of tests for use by the patrol officers. However, it was not until August 1959 that the process of drafting and consultation was completed. On 25 August 1959 Mr Milliken compiled a document, comprising three typed pages entitled: "Tests to be applied in considering whether or not a part aboriginal child should be taken from an Aboriginal mother on a settlement or a pastoral property." It was a very detailed document that called for the closest scrutiny of the child's personal circumstances, including the wishes of the child and the wishes of the child's parents. The tests which were commonly referred to as "the Milliken tests", directed attention to the following areas: · the acceptance or rejection of the child within the native camp; · the child's personal outlook and manner of life; · the child's educational level; · the parent's and the child's wishes; · the attitude of the local pastoral management; · the child's prospects of employment; and · the subject of total life adjustment. 263 An example of the detail to which Mr Milliken descended appears from the following questions that a patrol officer had to answer: "Does the mother consider that removal is in the best interests of the child? If so, why does she think so? Has the mother consulted either her brother or her husband on the matter of removal, and if so, is she acting independently of them, in agreement with them, or in opposition to their express wishes? Does the mother wish to keep in contact with the child over the years?" 264 The investigating patrol officer was directed under Mr Milliken's guidelines, to consider all aspects of the child's present and future circumstances. The officer was not to be content to ask for the mother's consent: the mother should be asked to state her reasons why she thought that removal was in the best interests of her child. The searching nature of the tests can be conveniently emphasised by quoting the last three questions: "Having considered all points separately, is the child likely to live a more contented, happy and fuller life, if removal occurs, than if he is left where he is? Why could it be thought that the child's ultimate life adjustment will be more effective following removal than it would be without it? What are the over-all reasons in this case which make the Investigating Officer consider that removal is the best action to take in this particular case?" As a matter of practice, Mr Milliken said that a child would not be removed without the consent of the mother except in those cases "where the child's life could have been at risk or they could have been at risk of moral degradation". However, despite the extensive detail of the Milliken tests, it is significant that there was no clearly stated proscription against removing a child unless the mother first consented. Thus, the question was asked: "If there has been any reluctance on the part of the mother or child, on what grounds does the Removing Officer base his case for a continuation of pressure, on the parties concerned, to effect the removal." At best, that only suggested that every attempt should be made to obtain the consent. 265 Mr Penhall said that he had seen the Milliken tests, but only about two years before giving his evidence in this trial. He understood that Mr Milliken was the author of the document and he had spoken to Mr Milliken about it. It was Mr Penhall's evidence that the document "basically summarised what – what we'd been putting into operation for – for about 10 years previous". 266 Mr MacLeod, who was a patrol officer between 1955 and 1959 stated that he was unaware of the existence of any policy guidelines whilst he was working in the Administration. He was shown a copy of the Director's memorandum that set out the 1952 policy; he said that he had never seen it during his service. He was shown a copy of the Milliken tests; he said that he had never seen anything like them. That is understandable as he had left before Mr Milliken had finalised and distributed his guidelines. Mr MacLeod had worked as a patrol officer out of Darwin. His work often took him to the Bagot Reserve but he had nothing to do with the Retta Dixon Home. This was because his work primarily concerned full blood Aboriginals. 267 The review that I have conducted of the documentary evidence has not included a reference to every paper that was tendered in the trial but I should not be taken to have overlooked any document in so far as it is not specifically mentioned. However, I consider that the material that I have quoted or summarised is sufficient to draw the following conclusions: · as early as 1911, it was recognised that there "would probably be an outcry from well meaning people about depriving the mother of her child …"; · Sir Paul Hasluck's 1952 principles emphasised the need to make "a painstaking attempt" to explain to the mother "the advantages to be gained by removal of the child" but the mother's consent was not a prerequisite; · the writings that were tendered in evidence repeatedly referred to the welfare of the child or the best interests of the child, but never gave any credit for Aboriginal culture or for the bonding of the Aboriginal family; and · the high point in the concern for part Aboriginal children can be found in the Milliken tests but even they do not explicitly state that a child could only be removed with the consent of his or her mother. 268 The conclusion that I have reached does not accord with the evidence of the former patrol officers, Messrs Penhall, Lovegrove and Kitching. They each said that no removal of a child would be effected without maternal consent except for cases of neglect or health. But their evidence is no more than their summaries of how they, as patrol officers, implemented a policy. None of them was ever in the unfortunate position of being ordered by his Director to bring in a part Aboriginal child irrespective of the wishes of the mother. The documentary evidence established that, although every consideration was to be given to the mother's feelings and to her wishes, ultimately, her consent was not required to her child's removal. 269 During the course of his evidence in chief, Mr Ford (who rose to be the Director of the Department of Aboriginal Affairs) was asked what he knew of official policy towards part Aboriginal children during his time in the Native Affairs Branch and the Welfare Branch. His evidence was as follows: "My understanding of the policy that no part-Aboriginal child was to be removed without the permission of its parents or parent. Did you have any understanding as to what the purpose of the policy was? ‑‑‑ In relation to removals? Yes, what was the purpose? If the parents gave their consent, why were the children being removed? --- There could've been a number of reasons for removal of the child. Do you personally know? --- Well, for its personal welfare, advancement, the possibility it may've been in – or the parent may be in trouble for having a part-Aboriginal child. I won't go any further than that. Was the administration of this policy something that you were routinely concerned with? --- No." 270 The applicants, in their final submissions, did not dispute that there is a distinction between the identification of a policy and the manner in which such a policy was administered. In fact, counsel for the applicants, in their written submissions, emphasised the need to concentrate on the personal circumstances of Lorna Nelson and Peter Gunner. They wrote: "It is to be appreciated that the existence, and content, of a Commonwealth policy concerning the removal of part-Aboriginal children is not a determinative issue in this case … The applicants' cases rest on what was done to them, on the Commonwealth's conduct towards them, not on what was stated in one or other policy document, or in later self-justificatory speeches by politicians." 271 In my opinion, this submission did not rest easily with the pleadings. As I have already noted, in subpars 31(a) and 31(b) of her further amended statement of claim Mrs Cubillo had pleaded: "(a) The removal and detention of the Applicant occurred under the dictate of or pursuant to a general policy of removal and detention of half-caste children from their Aboriginal parents and without regard for the individual circumstances of the Applicant. (b) In applying the general policy of removal and detention of half caste children in respect of the Applicant the Director of Native Affairs failed to exercise his discretion properly or at all, in that he failed to consider and determine whether the removal and detention of the Applicant was necessary or desirable in the interests of the Applicant or of her mother." The same plea is to be found in subpars 43(a) and 43(b) of Mr Gunner's further amended statement of claim. 272 The concept of a general or sweeping policy was repeated in par 34 of Mrs Cubillo's further amended statement of claim. In that paragraph it was alleged that her removal and detention was "in breach of the duty owed as guardian by the Director of Native Affairs to the applicant". The particulars of the alleged breach were then listed. They were very extensive but, at this stage, I need only mention the second of them: "(b) Acting in accordance with a policy of removal and detention of half-caste children the purpose of which was to destroy the associations and connections of the Applicant with her Aboriginal mother, family and culture and to assimilate the Applicant into non-Aboriginal society without regard to her particular circumstances." Those allegations were an assertion of the existence of an arbitrary policy of general application. On the other hand, the particulars of the alleged breach of duty that were set out in subpar 34(a) of Mrs Cubillo's further amended statement of claim were consistent with counsel's final submissions. It was there alleged that there had been a failure to act in the best interests of Mrs Cubillo by failing to take into account her individual circumstances. The same criticism can be made of Mr Gunner's further amended statement of claim. His pleadings mirrored those of Mrs Cubillo. 273 The applicants' submission was that there was a policy in relation to part Aboriginal children from, at least, the 1920s and that it continued through the 1930s, through the war and that it was still in operation in the 1950s. It was, so they claimed, developed in response to the perceived half-caste problem and the solution to the problem was said to be the removal from their environment and the detaining of the part Aboriginal children so that they could be brought up in a European manner. That was the policy that was, from time to time, referred to during the trial as the "removal policy", although that is not a label that is found anywhere in the contemporary documents. The applicants chose to use that different term rather than the term "assimilation policy" because, so they claimed, a policy of assimilation by removal and detention, was developed for different reasons and by different means in the 1950s; it was, so they claimed, that latter policy that was implemented by Sir Paul Hasluck. 274 The applicants submitted that the policy that was introduced by Sir Paul was one that applied to the Aboriginal population at large in the Northern Territory. It no longer made the kinds of distinctions that were found in the 1937 conference resolution or in the McEwen policy statement that was adopted by Cabinet. By the 1950s there were no longer distinctions between the semi-civilised and the detribalised people who were living near towns, and the tribal Aboriginal people who were to remain living on reserves. Those distinctions had gone and there was a general policy of assimilation for all Aboriginal people. That was implemented by more gradual means, by establishing settlements, by the provision of special schools, by the subsidisation of schools on pastoral properties, by better health services, housing, and by regulation of employment; that is what the applicants referred to as the assimilation policy. 275 It is important to distinguish between the assimilation policy by removal, which continued to be applied to part Aboriginal children, and the more general assimilation policy that was a slower, more gradual policy of social change. The applicants claimed that it was the removal policy that was in force when Lorna Nelson was removed and, notwithstanding that Peter Gunner was not removed until 1956, four years after the introduction of the 1952 principles, it was pursuant to the removal policy that he was taken from Utopia. 276 The applicants did not submit that "the removal policy" was an unlawful policy; they did not argue that it was a policy that was not authorised by the Aboriginals Ordinance. Their submission was that the adoption of "the removal policy" led to unlawful results; that is, they said that the applicants were challenging the implementation of the policy as distinct from the policy. They conceded that there may have been cases where the power could have been exercised lawfully, but, so they claimed, if the power was only exercised for the purpose of the implementation of the policy, without considering the true interests of the child, then it would have led to an unlawful exercise of the Director's powers. 277 The applicants acknowledged that "the removal policy" was a policy that had been formulated by the Government to guide the Director in the exercise of his statutory powers and they agreed that it was not unlawful for the Director to have regard to that policy. However, if that was all that he did, if he did not have regard to the individual circumstances of the child, then the result was an unlawful exercise of his powers. That submission, coming in the closing stages of the trial, after all sides had closed their cases, was far removed from the exceptionally serious accusations that were made against the Commonwealth in both applicants' further amended statements of claim – accusations that were maintained until the last moment throughout this very long trial. 278 Mr Lovegrove said that policy in respect of Aboriginal people changed in the 1950s. He said in his evidence in chief that the change came: "… certainly after Harry Giese came to the Northern Territory, and he was probably appointed because of the new policy. I mean, the policy of assimilation was spelled out by Paul Hasluck." Asked to explain his understanding of the assimilation policy, Mr Lovegrove said: "I saw it as preparing Aboriginals, especially young Aboriginals, to be equipped to take full advantage of equality within the Australian nation. I mean, Paul Hasluck put it in a far better way, more detailed form, but that was what it seemed to me to be the intent. That, I think, is why education and health improvement were vital aspects of that particular policy." Mr Lovegrove was of the opinion that there was an emphasis on education for part Aboriginal children, more so than for Aboriginal children and, so he claimed, that emphasis existed from before the days of World War II. He felt that prior to Sir Paul's time, "nothing sort of positive" was done about changing conditions or giving Aboriginal people an opportunity to advance themselves. He said that, in his implementation of the new assimilation policy, he had to pursue the twin objectives of first, ensuring that children attended school and secondly, encouraging parents to make sure that the children went to school. He felt that there was a general acceptance by the Aboriginal people of the importance of education but there were cases of impatience that were brought about because a conventional education could interfere with the time that was needed for a child's initiation process. 279 The Administrator, Mr FJS Wise, had written to the Secretary, Department of Territories by letter dated 28 February 1952 commenting that assimilation of "full-bloods" would be "difficult and slow". He added: "Objections will no doubt be made against the policy from time to time on humanitarian grounds. As a general rule, mothers and their children should not be separated, and in a white community, a mother's right to the control and care of her child may be overruled only for very grave reasons and after the most careful enquiry." 280 As a clinical psychologist, Mr Milliken agreed with the sentiment that, as a general rule, mothers and their children should not be separated. He also agreed that distress would be caused even in those circumstances where mothers were persuaded, rather than compelled, to give up their children. 281 The Administrator continued in his letter, with obvious reference to the Wave Hill incident: "That distress will be caused to mothers even where they are persuaded rather than compelled to give up their children, may be accepted. On one occasion, for example, a Patrol Officer reported that 'heartrendering scenes' were witnessed when partly coloured children were being taken from their mothers for movement by air to Darwin. He recommended the use of other methods of transport so as to reduce or avoid such distress." 282 It was put to Mr Milliken that the views expressed by the Administrator in his letter of 28 February 1952 to the Secretary were still relevant and appropriate when Mr Milliken joined the Native Affairs Branch in late 1955; Mr Milliken would not agree. He said that the amendments to the legislation that had been introduced in 1953 had "changed the whole thinking about part Aboriginal people". 283 Mr Milliken was asked to describe the nature of his duties in 1955 when he took up his appointment as the Assistant Director of Welfare. He said that his primary responsibility related to research and "operational activities" in respect of full blood Aboriginals in accordance with "the Minister's and the Government policy". A statement of that policy is to be found in the Annual Report of the Northern Territory for the financial year 1955-1956: "The policy of the Commonwealth Government is to direct and encourage the re­establishment of the aborigines so that they will eventually be assimilated as an integral part of the Australian community." Although he could not remember the precise details, Mr Milliken agreed that he had a hand in the preparation of that section of the report. The strength and determination of the assimilation policy may be gauged from the following passage from the report: "The task of the Welfare Branch in bringing aborigines to a stage where they can be accepted as full citizens in the community is essentially social in character. The real job lies in changing social attitudes, values and institutions, customs and standards of living and in inculcating an interest in European forms of work and its rewards." It was Mr Milliken's belief that he was involved in the preparation of that passage based on his understanding of the policy as laid down by Sir Paul Hasluck. As he said during the course of his cross-examination, Sir Paul Hasluck was not the originator of the policy of assimilation but he did continue it. The annual report for 1957-1958 showed a change in emphasis by incorporating a reference to Aboriginal culture. It read as follows: "It is the policy of the Commonwealth Government to promote and direct social change among aborigines in the Northern Territory in such a way that, while retaining connexions with and pride in their aboriginal ancestry, they will eventually become indistinguishable from other members of the Australian community in manner of life, standards of living, occupations and participation in community affairs." According to Mr Milliken, this revision came out of the 1956 deliberations of the Native Welfare Council. Asked whether that policy had a name, Mr Milliken answered: "Yes, in – in respect of full-blood Aborigines, it was known as the policy of assimilation." 284 Mr Milliken said that his early understanding of assimilation was that it had the objective of bringing "half castes into a situation … from which they could enter European society". Initially, this would have meant entry at the very lowest level of unskilled labour but Mr Milliken was quite firm in his evidence when he said that this changed for the better with the revision of the assimilation policy in the time of Sir Paul Hasluck. That revision, according to Mr Milliken, extended to full blood Aboriginals as well as part Aboriginals and it gave them "the same opportunities as anyone else to become part of one total Northern Territory Australian population". When asked, during the course of his evidence in chief, how he would react to a proposition that the education that was given to part Aboriginal children was "simply to provide workers in the lowest level of work", Mr Milliken replied: "I would say there was nothing further from our thoughts than that." 285 Counsel for the Commonwealth asked Sister Johnson: "What would you say to the suggestion that domestic work was the only kind of work that the Retta Dixon girls were trained for?" Sister Johnson replied quite forcibly: "That's ridiculous; they had the same schooling and opportunities as our own children." However, Sister Johnson went on to say that at that time there was very little work available in Darwin for young girls apart from domestic work. She allowed for the possibility that some of them might have been able to obtain clerical work but, as she said, it was not an easy work situation. 286 I have had some difficulty in understanding why the applicants alleged that the Commonwealth had required the Director of Native Affairs to act in accordance with a policy of removal and detention of part Aboriginal children for purposes that included the purpose of providing: "domestic and manual labour for the European community of the Northern Territory … ." – and having made it – pursued it: (see subpar 40A(b)(iii) of Mrs Cubillo's further amended statement of claim and subpar 61A(b)(iii) of Mr Gunner's further amended statement of claim). They had also initially accused the Commonwealth of "failing to make reasonable attempts to ensure that the Applicants would enjoy equal opportunity compared to non Aboriginal or non half-caste children in the society which the Respondent intended the Applicants to become a part of, being the non-aboriginal community of Australia." (see subpar 42(j) of Mrs Cubillo's further amended statement of claim and subpar 63(j) of Mr Gunner's further amended statement of claim). 287 That plea was in harmony with the retained plea of subservience – that the purpose of the policy of removal and detention was the provision of domestic and manual labour. However, having withdrawn the allegation that the part Aboriginal children were denied equal opportunities, the applicants critically wounded their submission that there were attempts to convert them to a lower socio-economic role than the members of the European community. The limited evidence on this subject cannot justify this assertion. 288 Mr Milliken was asked during the course of his evidence in chief to describe the attitude that was adopted by the Welfare Branch towards Aboriginal people. His answer was interesting; he said that first, they were seen as "people to be respected as people"; secondly, they were seen as people with an important culture of their own, that we had to come to understand"; thirdly, Mr Milliken said of them that: "…they were people who had to be given an opportunity, if they chose, to move into broader Territory society and to function in the same way as other people functioned." 289 The Government's policy on the education of Aboriginal and part Aboriginal children had been discussed by Sir Paul Hasluck at a meeting in Canberra of the Native Welfare Council on Monday 29 September 1952. In a paper that was presented to that meeting, the Minister wrote: "In the Northern Territory the policy is to make all the education facilities which are available to the white community accessible to coloured children who are living after the manner of Europeans. The attendance of aboriginal children at the same schools as white children, where their geographical situation and cultural development permit, is accepted by the community as the custom as well as the policy. The same practice is followed in the convent schools. All these schools, attended by both white and coloured children, are on the same standard and use a similar curriculum as the primary and post-primary schools elsewhere in Australia. An educational problem of a different and a more difficult kind is presented by the coloured children, nearly all full-blood, who live in tribal or semi-tribal conditions and whose cultural standard and mode of living are such that they require special schools and a special curriculum adapted to their needs and circumstances. The conducting of such schools is made more difficult by the nomadic habit of the people and the fact that, to some extent, their own tribal education as natives may be proceeding in the tribe side by side with attempts to educate them towards a European way of life." That paper was put to Mr Milliken during the course of his evidence in chief. He said that he was not familiar with the document but that he was familiar with the policy; it was in operational force when he arrived in the Territory in 1955 and continued thereafter. 290 In speaking of the educational policy that had been promulgated for part Aboriginal children, Mr Milliken said that, in the 1955-1956 financial year, funds were provided by the Commonwealth for the benefit of part Aboriginal children who wanted to extend their education and who wished to go interstate to do that. Mr Milliken's work involved visiting the missions so that he could assess the children who might be likely candidates to be sent interstate; he listed the prerequisites that he considered essential before he would recommend a child for further education interstate. They were matters such as language skills, confidence and an ability to communicate and adapt. But he was clear in saying that he would not recommend a child who did not want to go. He said that under that scheme several children went interstate for further education and, so far as he was aware, the scheme was still in force when he left the Administration. The operation of the scheme was passed over in 1957 from Mr Milliken to Mr Ray Vincent who took up the appointment of Administrative Officer, General Welfare. 291 Mr Milliken said that "it did not enter my mind at that time" that part Aboriginal people were to be included in the policy of assimilation. He had formed that opinion because of the amendment to the Aboriginals Ordinance in 1953. Mr Milliken considered that the amendment had given to the part Aboriginal people entry into general society and so they had thereby achieved assimilation. Mr Milliken spoke of a male welfare officer, Babe Damaso. He was a part Aboriginal and had been instrumental in 1951 in forming the Progressive Half Caste Association Incorporated. It was Mr Milliken's evidence that the Association had played an active part in lobbying to have the 1953 amendments passed. Later in 1966, Mr Milliken said that he assisted Babe in "de-registering" the Association. When asked why Babe wished to "de-register", Mr Milliken replied: ". . . Yes. He said that there was no need for the association any more; they had achieved their objectives; they were no longer regarded as Aboriginals; they were exempt – they'd been excluded from the Ordinance; their sons and daughters, and I'm quoting his words now, were marrying white and they were admitted to all the clubs and other places just as white people were." 292 The value of this evidence is limited; it was hearsay, and even then, it was a view that was expressed by only one person. Its value was limited to serving as a warning against generalising and assuming that all part Aboriginal people gravitate towards full blood Aborigines. 293 Mr Vincent was aware that there was a policy of assimilation on foot during his time in the Territory, but in giving his understanding of it, he did not differentiate between the full blood Aboriginals and the part Aboriginals. His evidence was: "As far as the Territory was concerned I saw assimilation as the attempt to bring a sense of acceptance and a willingness to or a desire to move into the wider community so that there could be personal development within the wider community. Darwin already was very much a multicultural society and in many ways ready to accept people, but institutions may be lacking in terms of employment and other help." 294 A reverse example of assimilation can be found in the evidence of Mr Jeremy Long. He observed, during the course of his researches into the Hermannsburg Community in 1961, that there had been inter-marriage between part Aboriginals and full blood Aboriginals. He wrote in his report that his research: " . . . indicates a successful assimilation of these people into a predominantly Aboriginal community." In his 1967 paper "The Administration and the part Aboriginals of the Northern Territory" Mr Long addressed the same subject, writing at 188: "The situation of part Aboriginals in Alice Springs and the other towns of the Northern Territory is broadly similar. In Alice Springs the part Aborigines have generally much closer ties with the Aboriginals and some live with and as Aboriginals; there seems to be substantially more prejudice in the white population against Aboriginals and discrimination is not unknown." 295 During the course of her cross-examination, it was put to Mrs Moy that the purpose of gathering the part Aboriginal children together in the Retta Dixon Home was to "assimilate them into the white community". She did not agree. She answered by saying: "No. Gathering of the children was because they had nowhere else to – to put them. So all the children went into Retta Dixon, you say, because they had nowhere else to put them? --- That's right, it was the only home." 296 I accept Mrs Moy as a witness of truth. I therefore accept that what she said in answer to those questions represented her present perception of the events of forty or more years ago. I do not, however, agree with her perception. Her evidence is only of literal accuracy if one proceeds upon the premise that it was necessary to gather the children together. If such a necessity is accepted, then it might be correct to say that there was nowhere else other than Retta Dixon in which to place the children. It seems to me that, in giving her answer, Mrs Moy overlooked the importance of first determining this question of necessity. 297 A native welfare conference of Commonwealth and State authorities was held in Canberra in January 1961. The Commonwealth Ministers for Territories and Social Services were present; the Northern Territory was represented by the Administrator with the Director of Welfare in attendance. The conference adopted the following definition of the policy of assimilation: "The policy of assimilation means that all aborigines and part aborigines are expected eventually to attain the same manner of living as other Australians and to live as members of a single Australian community enjoying the same rights and privileges, accepting the same responsibilities, observing the same customs and influenced by the same beliefs, hopes and loyalties as other Australians. Thus, any special measures taken for aborigines and part aborigines are regarded as temporary measures not based on colour but intended to meet their need for special care and assistance to protect them from any ill effects of sudden change and to assist them to make the transition from one stage to another in such a way as will be favourable to their future social, economic and political advancement." The conference went on to resolve upon methods of advancing the policy of assimilation. Those methods included: "Provision of education in normal schools and pre-schools to the extent possible otherwise in special schools and pre-schools for all aboriginal and part aboriginal children." 298 The methods that were advocated for the advancement of the policy of assimilation did not refer to the removal of part Aboriginal children from their family environment. 299 This resumé of the evidence on the subject of assimilation can be brought to a convenient close by referring to a comment that Mr Lovegrove made in his evidence. He said that in about 1972 or 1973 the policy of assimilation changed, following a change of Government, to a policy of self-determination or self-management. He believed that with the advent of the policy of self-determination "there was a real swing back to Aboriginal culture at the cost of Aboriginal children's education". Was there an Indiscriminate Policy of Removal? 300 There is material before the Court in the form of census reports and like statistical information indicating the number of part Aboriginals in the Northern Territory on various dates. There is also evidence of "head counts" made by patrol officers on the occasions of their visits to outlying stations and camps. Although there is no evidence identifying the number of part Aboriginal children living in the Territory on any given date one can, nevertheless, feel satisfied that the number of such children far exceeded the ability of the Commonwealth to implement a policy of indiscriminate removal irrespective of the personal circumstances of the child. The number of institutions and their capacity to receive residents was small; the number of patrol officers who had the primary task of identifying whether children should be taken was small. Of the children at the Retta Dixon Home and at St Mary's, the evidence reveals that some were there at the request of their parents and that, in a small number of cases, parents paid fees for their upkeep. The applicants have not, in my opinion, produced the evidence that would substantiate a finding that there was a "general policy of removal and detention" as alleged in their pleadings. 301 Mr Lovegrove said, and I accept, that he never received an instruction to bring in a part Aboriginal child irrespective of the wishes of the child's family. He acknowledged that discussions between a patrol officer and a mother about the welfare and future of her child could be complex and time consuming. He agreed that it would be "an extraordinarily difficult task". I regarded Mr Lovegrove as one who was a genuine friend to the Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people. He would not be one who would have participated in such a traumatic event: conversely, if he had been a party to a forced removal, it would have been an event that would not have left his mind. I am satisfied that Mr Lovegrove was never involved in the forced removal of a child from the child's family. The next question and answer in Mr Lovegrove's evidence was also very important: "Are you able to say, from your supervision of the patrol officers and your observation of patrol officers, to the extent you had it, whether other patrol officers adopted the same approach as you, or a different approach? --- I would say, generally speaking, they adopted the same approach as me. But patrol officers are individuals and they probably had different degrees of enthusiasm for it and they may've argued longer than I did, but, no, I - you know, apart from that, I don't think that - well, I think they were very much the same as me." That statement cannot be taken as a proven fact that no patrol officer ever engaged in an act of forced removal: such an event could have occurred without Mr Lovegrove knowing of it. But his evidence goes a long way towards a conclusion that, in his time, there was no widespread practice of forcibly removing part Aboriginal children from their mothers. 302 Mr Lovegrove said that as a District Welfare Officer – but not as a patrol officer – he had cases of children who were suffering from neglect – not only part Aboriginal children, but white children as well. In such cases, it was his practice to have the child brought before the court so that, in appropriate cases, the court could make a declaration that the child was neglected. The child would then be placed in the care of the Director of Child Welfare. 303 Mr Long was asked: "Were you, as a patrol officer, limiting yourself to the period that you were a cadet patrol officer and became a full patrol officer, given any instructions as to the collection of children? --- No. Or to report upon children? --- No, only as - insofar as they were members of the communities on cattle stations. Yes, and insofar as they were members of the community on a cattle station, to what extent were you asked to report upon them? --- Primarily to check that they were there and record them in the census. Nothing beyond that? --- We were interested in their general wellbeing, and . . . Were you under any instruction to bring in and place at St Mary's Hostel, half-caste children? --- I don't recall any such instruction ever being issued. Did you ever do that? --- No." In another of his books, The Go-Betweens: patrol officers in Aboriginal Affairs Administration in the Northern Territory 1936-74, Darwin, North Australia Research Unit ANU, 1992; Mr Jeremy Long had written at 81 of the "policy of removing half-caste children from the camps" as a policy that had apparently been established early in the Commonwealth's administration of the Territory. In a section of that book there is a heading "A Most Hated Task". Mr Long said that he attributed that phrase to Dr Duguid. He was not aware of anyone who had used the expression but he added that his research had indicated that "it was a task they [ie the patrol officers] might rather have not been performing". Nevertheless, it remained his evidence that his inquiries did not reveal any case of a patrol officer removing a child without the consent of the child's parents. 304 Patrol officer MacLeod submitted a report dated 20 November 1957 to the Assistant Director of Welfare. It dealt with his recommendations concerning six part Aboriginal children who were then living at Wave Hill. The contents of the report are of interest for they indicate how Mr MacLeod approached his duties when the issue of the removal of children was to be considered. The first of the six children who was considered by Mr MacLeod was Sheila, aged nine. There was a proposition that she be adopted by a white family. Mr MacLeod would not recommend that. He felt that she was too old for adoption adding that: "… her social habit and behaviour is such that she is not even one step removed from the squalor of camp life as exists at Wave Hill." He did however recommend her removal to an institution because: "… there may still be time to improve this girl's social status etc." He also wished to protect her, for he said that it was common knowledge that all part Aboriginal girls were at risk of becoming mistresses "to both black and white persons in the outback". No mention was made of the attitude of the child's mother although she had been named in the report. 305 The next child, Pauline, a girl aged eleven, appeared to be the older sister of Sheila. In her case there was the complication that she was already considered the tribal wife of a ward. Mr MacLeod wrote that it was therefore "difficult to judge whether or not removal is in the best interests for this girl's future and peace of mind". On balance, he thought removal to an institution was the best course of action. 306 The third girl was another sister, Jane, aged five. Mr MacLeod said of her: "… if we could remove her from her present environment without too much suffering on the part of Jane or her mother, much good could be done leading possibly to an adoption." 307 The last three children were boys; in each case Mr MacLeod was of the opinion that it would be better for them to stay in their present environment. As there was the possibility of a school opening at Wave Hill, he felt that their educational needs could therefore be met in the new school. Furthermore, the boys would have a better opportunity of learning stock work. But, as he pointed out, the situation could change if a boy did not show any desire to work with cattle. 308 Mr MacLeod was asked during the course of his evidence in chief: "Do you recall what your instructions were as to what it was that you were to look out for in respect of half-coloured children?" His answer was as follows: "If they were being stood aside in the - in the camps and not given a - a proper place. Sometimes they were scoffed and scorned at in full-blooded Aboriginal camps, and sometimes they were not fed. Sometimes they were teased, so there were different problems with them." He added, in answer to a further question about the instructions that he had been given: "Well, I think, overall we were (sic) at the best interests of the children and education potential, whether they could – whether they were getting a fair go in life, I suppose …" It was his view that it was permissible to remove part Aboriginal children as long as it was in the best interests of the children. He had a belief that children were never removed from those families where there was a father as well as a mother. Furthermore, it was his evidence that he had never personally removed a child, even though he acknowledged that he had recommended removals. 309 Mr Vincent was asked if he knew how part Aboriginal children came to be placed in the institutions such as St Mary's and Retta Dixon Home. He replied: "I knew some of the arrangements which were made. Some were brought in by requests of their mothers; some were made by arrangements between patrol officers, the mother and the mission; some were brought in because of need for care." However, he explained that he had no personal involvement with children who were brought in at the request of their mothers. Rather, he testified, that in those situations the mothers would deal directly with the missions or with or through patrol officers. He was also aware that children were brought into court to be "declared in need of care"; the people who were involved in bringing those children to court were, so he said, patrol officers and welfare officers. 310 Speaking of part Aboriginal children, Mr Vincent testified that he was aware "that they were brought in on a mother's request for education and care, to give them opportunity, and that would be done with the mother's consent. [O]thers were admitted, … by the mothers themselves directly conferring with the mission". Mr Vincent said that it was a matter for the "patrol officer to talk with the mother and obtain her consent and signature if necessary"; if the mother could not sign a document, the process was "a thumbprint". He could not recall any circumstances where a patrol officer brought a child in without the mother's consent. He suggested education was seen as important for those children for their own personal development and future opportunities. 311 Mr Milliken, talking of the procedures that were in place prior to 1957, said that any patrol officer's reports about part Aboriginal children who had been located on stations would, in the first instance be considered by Mr Ted Evans as the Chief Welfare Officer. In 1957, with his appointment as Administrative Officer, General Welfare, Mr Ray Vincent assumed that responsibility. As Mr Gunner was taken from Utopia in 1956, it will be sufficient to have regard only to the circumstances as they existed in and prior to 1957. 312 If, in a particular case, Mr Evans considered it necessary to take some action, he would first refer the matter to the District Welfare Officer and if there was a recommendation that a child be removed, and Mr Evans agreed, a report would be prepared for the Administrator for him to consider approving a declaration that the child was an Aboriginal. Some of the institutions including the Retta Dixon Home, but not St Mary's, were located on Aboriginal Reserves: people who were not Aboriginals were not allowed on those Reserves without a permit. So if a child were to be admitted to such an institution, it was necessary for that child to be declared to be an Aboriginal so that he or she could live on the Aboriginal Reserve. 313 In cross-examination it was put to Mr Milliken that in 1955, when he joined the Native Affairs Branch, there was a realisation within the Branch that if half-caste children from a traditional Aboriginal society were to make any progress in school, they had to be brought in before school age. His answer, which was not further explored, was: "Coming from native camps – we're not talking about missions or settlements, no, okay. I guess that was the presumption, that would have been the presumption." 314 His answer might indicate that the Branch recognised what it thought to be the "desirability of removing children of such tender years", but there was no evidence that this was a practice – either wide-spread or occasional – that was in force in 1955. That is not to deny that there was such a practice; it only means that no evidence of the application or implementation of any such practice was put before the Court. 315 Mr Milliken said that he was aware that many children were placed in institutions at the request of their parents and that some of them contributed to the costs of their child's upkeep. He said that education was sought by many Aboriginal people. Others were placed there by order of the Children's Court; yet again there were others of whom Mr Milliken said: "The - then there were children who had been - they had been taken from - I use the word taken - from parents and usually by negotiation with those parents, and they were being cared for in those homes at Government expense." Mr Milliken's use of the words "usually by negotiation" indicated that there could have been other cases where there were no negotiations or where negotiations had failed but children had still been taken. At a later stage during his evidence in chief, Mr Milliken was asked: "Were children to be taken where the mother did not consent?" After some thought, Mr Milliken replied: "… I could imagine that there would have been cases where against a mother's wish I might have directed that a child be transferred but that would be a rarity." He added however, that he, personally, had never done so. According to Mr Milliken, a part Aboriginal child would only be brought into an institution after there had been prior consultation with his or her mother. His evidence on this subject was as follows: "if a patrol officer on his visits saw a part-Aboriginal child whom he considered could profit from being transferred to an institution, he would raise the matter with the - usually with the mother or whoever was the carer and if there was some interest expressed in the child being educated, then he would work with the parent hoping that he would - I use the word 'hoping' - if there was an expression of interest that the parent would agree to the transfer of the child." 316 It was Mr Milliken's evidence that the Welfare Branch was alert to the educational needs of the part Aboriginal children; he said that the Branch was also aware "that their paternity in most cases could have caused problems within the tribe". 317 The subject of parental consent was officially addressed in the Annual Report for 1961-1962 of the Northern Territory. After identifying the four institutions for part Aboriginal children, the Administrator wrote: "These homes accommodate children committed to the care of the Director of Child Welfare; children placed by parents for various reasons; and children of Aboriginal mothers and unknown non-Aboriginal fathers who have, with the mothers' consent, been transferred from Aboriginal camps throughout the Territory." 318 According to the evidence of Mr Milliken, that statement was accurate at the time and had accurately stated the position since his arrival in the Territory in 1955. 319 Mr Milliken rejected any suggestion that in his time in the Territory from 1955, there was a blanket policy of removal of part Aboriginal children. He also rejected the proposition that, in his time, there were policies that divorced part Aboriginal children, who were in institutions, from their native background and that prevented part Aboriginal children from returning to their homes during holidays. However, Mr Milliken agreed that, while there were no guidelines that would have prevented a part Aboriginal child from pursuing his or her own culture, it would have surprised him if a child could have pursued an Aboriginal culture within the confines of an institution. He also said that the Welfare Branch never attempted to prevent members of a child's family or community from visiting the child at the institution. 320 Mr Les Wilson testified that, in his thirty years with the Branch, he was never involved in the removal of a part Aboriginal child from the child's family or community, although he did acknowledge that he "was aware that there was such a practice … it was just sort of common knowledge, I guess. [We] spoke about these things, patrol officers spoke about it, we spoke about it". Asked what his understanding for the reasons of the practice were, Mr Wilson replied: "In a traditional society and there was a part-coloured Aboriginal born to – child born to a full-blood woman in the tribal – you know, in the tribal situation, that if – if that child wasn't accepted or their mother was being ostracised and she couldn't properly look after it or join in the – in the tribal sense properly and she was ostracised by that community and the people – and the child wasn't looked after or – I think the child's interest was the main thing and the main thing about anybody removing a child. That was my understanding of it." I think that it would be reasonable to find that Mr Wilson was saying that removals of part Aboriginal children were limited to cases of rejection or neglect. Mr Wilson was later asked whether he had ever heard patrol officers suggest that their most detested task was the removal of part Aboriginal children from their families, and his answer was: "Yes, if they spoke of that at all, I'd say that it was quite traumatic if they had to do that sort of thing." The Relationship between the Commonwealth and the Missions 321 One of the central issues in this case was whether the Native Affairs Branch (and later the Welfare Branch) exercised any, and if so what, power or control over the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's Hostel. To answer that question it will be necessary, while bearing in mind the contents of the legislation, to refer to the evidence that has touched upon that subject. 322 The subjects of control and appointment of staff were addressed in the first annual report of Mr Driver as Administrator; he wrote in respect of the 1946-1947 financial year: "The St Mary's Church of England Hostel at Alice Springs was declared an Aboriginal Institution for the maintenance, custody and care of half-castes in December this year, and under the care of Deaconess Heath has rendered excellent service to half-caste children of Alice Springs. This hostel is controlled by the Australian Board of Missions. The Aborigines Inland Mission has established a half-caste mission and creche at the Bagot Aboriginal Reserve and this reserve also functions as a hostel for half-caste women employed in the Darwin area. Miss Shankelton has rendered valuable service to this community, both in the capacity of Superintendent of the Mission and as Native Welfare Worker. Native Affairs Branch is responsible for the rationing and clothing of the inmates, whilst provision of staff is the Mission's responsibility." 323 In a letter dated 9 July 1954, the Administrator of the day, Mr Wise, wrote the Secretary, Department of Territories in Canberra. One of his statements in that letter addressed this question. Writing about his dissatisfaction with the state of affairs at the Retta Dixon Home he raised the issue of "control": "If we are to control these children in a home where fundamentals of hygiene, moral training and social adjustments are to be dominant the Gawler proposal appears to be well on the way towards a solution." 324 Another example of the control that the Welfare Branch exercised over the institutions can be gained from the contents of a memorandum written by Mr Giese, the Director of Welfare, to the Acting Administrator on 6 February 1956. Under the heading "Corporal Punishment of Wards at Retta Dixon Home" Mr Giese wrote: "I then informed Mr Stretton that I had no authority to authorise corporal punishment of Wards, that he had no authority to carry out corporal punishment of Wards and that as legal guardian of Wards if cases of corporal punishment of Wards came to my notice I had a duty to see that appropriate action was taken against the person inflicting the corporal punishment." Although Mr Giese did not spell out what would amount to "appropriate action", the contents of his memorandum indicated that he was of the opinion that the Welfare Branch exercised a strong measure of control over the institutions. Admittedly, this view was not shared by the institutions, for Mr Giese went on to report to the Acting Administrator that: "Mr Stretton vigorously contested my right to interfere in the affairs of the Home to the extent of threatening action in the event of cases of corporal punishment being brought to my notice." 325 During the course of his cross-examination, the Rev Egerton Long was reminded of the action of Mr McCaffrey when he ordered a Mr Stanley Matthews, a Retta Dixon Missionary, off the Bagot Reserve. It was put to Mr Long that Mr McCaffrey's action was indicative of the regulation or oversight of the Retta Dixon Home by the officials of the Native Affairs Branch and later by officials of the Welfare Branch. Mr Long responded by saying: "Well, certainly there was oversight, liaison, discussions and so on all the way through, yes, I agree with that." 326 In a submission to Cabinet dated 11 March 1958, Sir Paul Hasluck wrote: "The Commonwealth Government is responsible for the care, welfare, education and advancement of native, part-coloured and State children in the Northern Territory and has found it convenient and economic to use the services of the Christian Missions in part for this work for which the Administration pays operational subsidies and gives assistance towards the purchase of capital items." 327 The Northern Territory Report for 1960-1961 referred to the provision of accommodation for part Aboriginal children in the four institutions; the Retta Dixon Home; St Mary's Hostel; Croker Island; and Garden Point. These were described as "subsidized by the Government and conducted by various church bodies in close co-operation with the Welfare Branch". The report also referred to the continuing transfer to one or other of the States of "selected part-Aboriginal children for education and training". The Northern Territory report for the following financial year, 1961-1962, had this to say about institutions for part Aboriginal children: "There are four homes for part-Aboriginal children in the Northern Territory conducted by church bodies and subsidized by the Government. These homes accommodate children committed to the care of the Director of Child Welfare; children placed by parents for various reasons; and children of Aboriginal mothers and unknown non-Aboriginal fathers who have, with the mother's consent, been transferred from Aboriginal camps throughout the Territory." 328 As is evident from the answers that he gave during the course of his cross-examination, Mr Vincent accepted that the Director of Welfare retained a measure of control over the part Aboriginal children who were resident in institutions. For example he said: "When a child goes into a home there's a certain delegation of responsibility to the people of the home. While there was delegation the Director would retain his position as the State – that the child was still a State home, (sic) but they would be acting in loco parentis." It was later put to Mr Vincent that in so far as the children who were at St Mary's were the responsibility of the Director of Welfare, the Director could have taken all those children away from St Mary's. Mr Vincent replied: "He could have withdrawn them, but he would also have to consider what he would do with them." 329 Mr Gubbins, during the course of his evidence, made an interesting observation on this topic. He explained that, while stationed at Alice Springs in the mid to late 1940s, he often visited the Hermannsburg Mission and the Areyonga Settlement, which was an outstation of the mission. He recalled those places as having some Government assistance, but they had a mission lease and were substantially self sufficient. With respect to Haasts Bluff, he testified that it was established with government buildings, but that missionaries from Hermannsburg Mission had "manned it". Asked why missionaries, as opposed to government personnel were running government settlements, Mr Gubbins replied that there were no government personnel available and the missionaries were "willing to do it and wanted to do it". He also explained that his purpose in attending at Hermannsburg and other mission stations was to check on the numbers of people who were being cared for at the mission. The missions had government support, such as child endowment. It was therefore necessary to make regular six monthly checks so that the Branch could maintain accurate records. 330 Mr Milliken was aware that reports on institutions that were caring for children were received by the Welfare Branch from time to time, but he had no official part to play in respect of them. They would usually be prepared by a welfare officer or a District Welfare Officer and would be processed, either through Mr Ray Vincent or Mr Martin Ford, to Mr Giese. Mr Milliken was also aware that the Welfare Branch had a supervisory role over the institutions. He described it as a "monitoring of broad activities and monitoring of philosophy and programs". When asked whether the Welfare Branch had authority to give directions to the management of an institution about its day to day operations, Mr Milliken replied: "In a very general way this could have been done. I was never sure that the authority existed in fact." Despite this uncertainty, Mr Milliken was quite certain that the Welfare Branch played no part in the selection of staff for the institutions, even though there were occasions when the Branch made known its objections to some members of an institution's staff; Mr Milliken was here referring to Mr Stan Matthews and Mr Des Walter. He had acquired knowledge of the circumstances surrounding those men subsequent to his arrival in Darwin. Mr Worthy was asked during the course of his evidence in chief questions about the staffing of personnel at the missions: "During the period of time that you held the responsibility of administrative officer, general welfare, was there any input at all from your office in the appointment of staff at any of these institutions? --- The short answer is no. The institutions were autonomous in that they appointed staff, they did not have to obtain approval from the Welfare Branch, nor consent for the particular staff. They appointed the staff, irrespective of who it was, this applied to Garden Point to the teaching nuns who were appointed there, to the people who went to Croker, to Retta Dixon or to St Mary's. There was no - the only place at which we came in was supervision of how it was run. As long as they met what were very minimum standards we had to accept in practice whom they appointed, not that we were satisfied by any means." 331 A duty statement for the Assistant Director of Welfare (Southern Division) included an entry that suggested that the Welfare Branch did not have any rights of interference in the operation of the institutions. The relevant entry read: "Maintain a close association with church and other community bodies with respect to the establishment, maintenance and operation of hostels and institutions for deprived children, aged, and mentally ill." The operative passage "maintain a close association" did not give the impression that the Branch expected to assert any measure of control. 332 Mr Milliken said that if an institution was located on an Aboriginal Reserve – as was the Retta Dixon Home – the Branch could achieve a measure of control over the institution's staff by withdrawing a staff member's permit to be on the Reserve. Apart from that however, it was Mr Milliken's view that the Branch could not do anything; in particular, it could not stop subsidy payments or cancel the institution's right of occupancy because "we had nowhere for the children to go". Mr Milliken's opinion on the Branch's lack of control over staff movements in institutions coincided with the views expressed by the Administrator, Mr Archer, in his letter to the Secretary, Department of Territories dated 8 December 1955. That was a letter in which the Administrator lamented the decision of the Church authorities to ask for Sister Eileen's resignation. The views of the Administrator were forthright, but, in my opinion, accurate: "However, in my view, the Church authorities have an unquestionable right to make and terminate appointments to their staff; and the decision having been made by the Bishop of Carpentaria to require Sister Eileen's resignation, the matter is not one on which the Administration could consider interfering; or for that matter having any views at all. As I see it, the Administration's function and responsibility is to ensure that the Hostel is run efficiently for the purpose for which it was established and for which it is subsidised. If, because of shortages or lack of quality in staff, or for any other reason the Administration is not fully satisfied that the Hostel is being conducted satisfactorily for its purpose, then its only course is to take up the matter directly with the Church authorities, who must either discharge the responsibilities they have accepted and for which they are being subsidised, or else step aside and allow the Administration to take over these responsibilities under some other arrangement." 333 Mr Milliken was referred to the letter from Sir Paul Hasluck to his Departmental Secretary dated 4 January 1956 where he had written: "The Government has a very definite responsibility to ensure the efficient management of this institution, both because of the Government's overall responsibility in respect of the welfare of coloured people and because of the substantial financial contribution the Government has made …" Mr Milliken agreed that the words "define reasonably well" his understanding of the Government's responsibility. Mr Milliken also agreed with the further proposition that was put to him in cross-examination to the effect that the Director of Welfare had the responsibility to ensure "that the conditions and the supervision and the staffing at St Mary's were adequate and proper at all times". The cross-examiner referred to this same subject at a later stage of the cross-examination and got the same response from Mr Milliken; he considered that the Welfare Branch had a substantial responsibility for St Mary's. 334 Captain Steep explained his understanding of the Church's policy in respect of St Mary's in these terms: "… they had developed the hostel, going back as far as 1946, for the express purpose of giving an opportunity for the part-Aborigine children throughout the Territory who lived out on stations and away from the town to come in and a place to board while they had education, that was the idea, the initial idea." As distinct from the Church's policy, he said that he obtained his understanding of Government policy from Mr McCoy and Mrs Ballagh. He described it this way: "… it was the policy of the Welfare Department to support the church in this situation and provide finance for the provision of the hostel. At that time they provided - the Welfare Branch and administration, I don't know quite where the dividing line came, but the administration and the Welfare Branch provided nine-tenths of the running costs of the hostel and the church provided one-tenth." 335 Captain Steep acknowledged that, initially, he did not appreciate the nature of the involvement of the Welfare Branch in the operations of St Mary's. Archdeacon Rogers had told him, on his arrival at Alice Springs, that the Welfare Branch had "a role to play" but Captain Steep nevertheless believed that "it was something that the church was running". However, as he said, he came to realise that the Welfare Branch had "a very deep commitment to the children"; he added that the officers of the Welfare Branch were quick to tell him of his mistakes. Captain Steep came to realise that he had to keep in touch with the Welfare Branch: "I realised that I had to tell them, you know, what was happening and keep them in touch with everything." 336 It was advanced as part of the applicants' case, that the Director of Native Affairs (and later the Director of Welfare) exercised effective control over the institutions. The Director did have one particular power and there was evidence in the trial that it was exercised in an appropriate case. The Retta Dixon Home was located within the Bagot Aboriginal Reserve. Under s 19 of the Aboriginals Ordinance, only persons prescribed under the Ordinance and persons authorised by the Director could enter and remain on a Reserve. In late July 1954, Acting Director McCaffrey exercised his powers in respect of Mr Stan Matthews. Mr McCaffrey was satisfied that Mr Matthews had used excessive corporal punishment on three boys from the Home; he ordered Mr Matthews to leave the Reserve. Effectively that meant that Mr McCaffrey was instrumental in forcing Mr Matthews to leave Retta Dixon. On the other hand, St Mary's was not situated on a Reserve; hence that same power was not available to the Director over the staff at St Mary's. 337 In addition to the power that was reposed in the Director with respect to people on Reserves, the Administrator also had the power to appoint the Superintendent of an institution such as the Retta Dixon Home or St Mary's Hostel. In the case of Mr Des Walter, the Administrator's power was about to be invoked by the Acting Director to frustrate a proposal to have Mr Walter take the position of Assistant Superintendent in Miss Shankelton's absence. Mr McCaffrey wrote the Aborigines Inland Mission by letter dated 24 November 1954 saying: "… I do not consider that Mr Walter has demonstrated that he is capable of controlling the Home." That ended the matter; Mr McCaffrey did not have to enlist the Administrator's aid. 338 It was put to Mr Ford that the Director had the power to terminate the employment of the staff at the Retta Dixon Home; Mr Ford rejected that assertion and Mr Milliken, in his examination in chief, supported what Mr Ford had said. 339 During the course of his cross-examination, Mr Ford was shown a copy of Mr McCaffrey's memorandum to the Administrator dated 28 July 1954. That was the memorandum in which he advised that he had ordered Mr Stan Matthews off the Bagot Reserve. Counsel for the applicants put to Mr Ford that Mr McCaffrey's conduct was illustrative of the power of the Director over an institution such as the Retta Dixon Home: "What I want to suggest to you, Mr Ford, that that sort of power there carried out by the Acting Director of Native Affairs was the sort of power that you understood that he had or that the position had in relation to staff at an institution such as Retta Dixon?--- No, I can't comment on that. Why can't you comment on that?---The staff were employed by the mission organisation, not by Mr McCaffrey or Mr Giese. The power to hire and fire were with them, not with the Director of Native Affairs. He may influence the authorities in the case of a situation such as this, but he hasn't the power to sack him. So from your field work you can say that, can you?---I have not done any field work. Well, you see where Mr McCaffrey has informed the Director or the Superintendent of the Retta Dixon Home he requires Mr Matthews off the premises, I suggest that that is a power that the Director had in relation to such an employee at the Retta Dixon Home?---You'll notice that it's Bagot Aboriginal Reserve. Okay. Well, the Bagot Aboriginal Reserve, is that of any significance to you?---It is, because the Director of Native Affairs properly had the power to require a person removed from the reserve if he is misbehaving himself, but not sack him from the organisation." Mr Vincent was of the same opinion as Mr Ford. He recollected that there was "some anxiety" in the Welfare Branch about the staff at St Mary's but, as he said: "That was a church matter, of course." 340 Mr Giese wrote an interesting letter dated 17 July 1963 to Mr Penhall in his capacity as the Assistant Director Southern Division with respect to St Mary's Hostel. Mr Giese acknowledged receipt of some reports from the Alice Springs Branch that related to inspections and comments about St Mary's. He then said: "Under the circumstances your Welfare Officer should be instructed to be particularly careful to avoid appearing to assume any responsibility for the management of St Mary's. The Welfare Branch is not responsible for the management of the Children's Hostels, although we may require certain standards to be met." 341 The applicants' witness, Mr Reg Worthy, also made it clear, during the course of his evidence in chief, that the Welfare Branch was well aware of the difference between supervision and control. The following passage in his evidence was quite revealing: "Mr Rush: Mr Worthy, did you – I want to direct this question at St Mary's – did you interfere with the day-to-day running at St Mary's?---Never. Why didn't you?---That wasn't our role. Who told you or informed you of your role?---Mr Giese. What did he say in relation to that question I asked about interfering with the day-to-day conduct of St Mary's, for example?---My instructions were quite clear that as the officer responsible to supervise those institutions this would apply to the policy directions as laid down and given to them, each one, that they were responsible to carry it out, that under no circumstance were we to interfere with how they did anything. We were to draw to their attention any shortcomings. As a matter of fact I can recall quite clearly one of the welfare officers in Alice Springs who did visit St Mary's on one occasion and apparently instruct somebody to do something and I can recall writing a letter back to Les Penhall asking him to ensure that this did not happen again, that it was not our role to run the institution." 342 In cross-examination Mr Milliken agreed that the powers of the Director under the Aboriginals Ordinance and, later, under the Welfare Ordinance were very wide powers. He said that they were exercised in accordance with the policy of the Government. I did not understand him to mean, in making that statement, that the statutory powers of the Director were thereby circumscribed by matters of policy. On the contrary, he explained that, in his time in the Welfare Branch, there was one occasion when he, as the Acting Director, found himself in a position when he had to remind the Minister of the day that the relevant power in the Ordinance was the power of the Director and not the power of the Minister. He also was aware of the occasion when Sir Paul Hasluck overruled Mr Giese's stand on corporal punishment but, as he said, that was not the subject of the exercise of a statutory power. Subject to the first mentioned incident, Mr Milliken said that he could not remember any other occasion when any Minister attempted to interfere with the statutory powers of the Director. 343 Officers of the Native Affairs Branch and, later, officers of the Welfare Branch made periodic visits to both the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's Hostel. Those officers thereafter submitted written reports to their superiors, commenting upon a variety of matters, such as the conditions of the institutions, any staffing problems and the health and welfare of the children. The evidence has established to my satisfaction, that neither institution was regarded by the authorities as satisfactory. Due to its proximity to the Bagot Reserve, the Native Affairs Branch recognised from the early 1950s that the Retta Dixon Home was in an unsuitable location for children. The amenities and staffing at St Mary's Hostel were considered to be so bad that, at one stage, Mrs Ballagh recommended that the Branch not place any more children in the Hostel. 344 As can be seen from this summary of the written and oral evidence, the situation was not clear. However, I feel that there is sufficient evidence to justify the following findings: · there was no evidence that any Director, at any time, attempted to exercise a power of hiring or firing staff at institutions; · on the contrary, the Native Affairs Branch and, later, the Welfare Branch recognised that that was the province of the institutions; · on the other hand, the power of management and regulation that the Director of Native Affairs enjoyed over the Retta Dixon Home under the provisions of par 5(1)(e) of the 1918 Ordinance permitted the Director to involve himself with a measure of control over the day to day activities of the Retta Dixon Home; and · I am also satisfied that there was a measure of control exercised by the Welfare Branch over the day to day activities of St Mary's and that St Mary's was aware of and accepted that control. One example of the recognition of the control of the Director of Welfare is a letter of 6 December 1961 from Archdeacon Bott of St Mary's Hostel. In it, he wrote the Director saying "I wish to thank you for your permission to take the State children in our care inter-State for holidays". There were no statutory powers vested in the Commonwealth, the Director or any other officer to control the composition of the governing body of the institution. Mr McCaffrey's tactical use of the fact that the Retta Dixon Home was on an Aboriginal Reserve did not mean that he dismissed Mr Matthews from his employment. It only meant that, by prohibiting Mr Matthews from staying on the Reserve, Mr McCaffrey effectively prevented him from carrying out his employment. In the final analysis, the power that could have been exercised over an uncooperative institution would have extended to the Directors' powers under ss 6 and 16 to remove the children to another institution or to have the Administrator revoke the declaration that the institution was an Aboriginal institution. The Briginshaw Test 345 The Commonwealth has asserted that three of the allegations that have been made by the applicants are of the gravest and most serious kind. It claimed that in each case the applicants should be called upon to adduce clear and cogent proof as required by the Briginshaw test. In that case, an allegation of adultery had been made by a husband against his wife at a time when serious legal and moral consequences would flow from an adverse finding. 346 The applicants in this case bear the onus of proof and the ordinary standard of proof in civil litigation is proof on the balance of probabilities. That onus will not change even though an applicant may be advancing an accusation of criminal behaviour or an accusation of grave immorality. However, the strength of the evidence that may be required to establish a particular fact may vary according to the gravity of the fact to be proved. That observation derives from what Dixon J had said in Briginshaw v Briginshaw [1938] 60 CLR 336 at 362 ("Briginshaw"): "But reasonable satisfaction is not a state of mind that is attained or established independently of the nature and consequence of the fact or facts to be proved. The seriousness of an allegation made, the inherent unlikelihood of an occurrence of a given description, or the gravity of the consequences flowing from a particular finding are considerations which must affect the answer to the question whether the issue has been proved to the reasonable satisfaction of the tribunal. In such matters 'reasonable satisfaction' should not be produced by inexact proofs, indefinite testimony, or indirect inferences." 347 The three allegations about which the Commonwealth complained were as follows: 348 the alleged policies of the Commonwealth with respect to part Aboriginal children. As to this, the Commonwealth said that it has been accused of pursuing a policy of forcibly separating part Aboriginal children from their parents. It said that it has been accused of destroying the relationship between the child and the child's family and that it subjected the children "to a cruelty which is unsurpassed … in recent Australian history". Dramatic and frightening though such accusations may be, they were to be found more in counsel's submissions and less in the evidence. The evidence that was germane to this first allegation centred upon two principal issues: first, the circumstances under which two children, Lorna Nelson and Peter Gunner left their families and went to reside in the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's Hostel respectively; secondly, the manner in which they were treated while they resided in those Homes. There is a third issue, but it is one of pure law: does the Commonwealth have any liability for any damages that the applicants may have suffered as a result of their removal and detention? Normally, the fact that an applicant makes a serious accusation about a Government policy - and the purpose that is said to rest behind that policy - is not sufficient to raise the matter into the Briginshaw stratum of cases; were that to be otherwise, every dissident who had a complaint about the Government would be at risk. But as the Commonwealth, in its final submissions has acknowledged, it is indisputable that the forced removal of children from their parents without good cause would have been morally wrong – not only on today's standards but on the standards of the time when the removal occurred. Its defence was that it did not, nor did any one for whom it was vicariously responsible, engage in any such act of removal or detention. However, to allege, as both applicants alleged, that they were forcibly removed against their wishes and the wishes of their family without just cause is a most serious accusation. The gravity of the accusation is self evident. It is hard to imagine conduct that would have been more cruel or more callous. The applicants, by their pleadings, have, in my opinion, lifted this particular issue to the level of Briginshaw by claiming that the Commonwealth treated them with contumelious disregard; · the second allegation concerned a Mr Des Walter, the one-time missionary who worked at the Retta Dixon Home; Mrs Cubillo gave evidence that she was cruelly beaten by Mr Walter in circumstances, which if true, could have well led to a most serious charge of criminal assault. The Commonwealth faced a claim that it was vicariously responsible for Mr Walter's alleged behaviour; and · the third allegation concerned a Mr Kevin Constable, the one-time missionary who worked at St Mary's Hostel; Mr Gunner and other witnesses gave evidence that Mr Constable sexually assaulted them when they were small children in his care at St Mary's. The Commonwealth also faced a claim that it was vicariously responsible for Mr Constable's alleged behaviour. 349 In considering the Briginshaw test, Mason CJ, Brennan, Deane and Gaudron JJ said in Neat Holdings Pty Ltd v Karajan Holdings Pty Ltd (1992) 110 ALR 449 at 450 ("Neat Holdings"): "On the other hand, the strength of the evidence necessary to establish a fact or facts on the balance of probabilities may vary according to the nature of what it is sought to prove. Thus, authoritative statements have often been made to the effect that clear or cogent or strict proof is necessary 'where so serious a matter as fraud is to be found'. Statements to that effect should not, however, be understood as directed to the standard of proof. Rather, they should be understood as merely reflecting a conventional perception that members of our society do not ordinarily engage in fraudulent or criminal conduct and a judicial approach that a court should not lightly make a finding that, on the balance of probabilities, a party to civil litigation has been guilty of such conduct." 350 In G v H (1994) 181 CLR 387 at 399 Deane, Dawson and Gaudron JJ observed that not every case involves issues of importance and gravity in the Briginshaw sense. But, they added that the "need to proceed with caution is clear if, for example, there is an allegation of fraud or an allegation of criminal or moral wrongdoing". This does not then mean that where a serious allegation is in issue, the standard of proof required is higher; it means only that the inherent probability or improbability of an event is itself a matter to be taken into account when weighing the probabilities and deciding whether, on balance, the event occurred. There are only two standards of proof, namely, proof upon the balance of probabilities and proof beyond reasonable doubt. The notion of strict proof is not "some standard of persuasion which is fixed intermediate between the satisfaction beyond reasonable doubt required upon a criminal inquest and the reasonable satisfaction which in a civil issue, may, not must, be based upon a preponderance of probability": Cassell v R [2000] 169 ALR 439 at 443 per Gleeson CJ, Gaudron, McHugh and Gummow JJ. 351 In this case the accusations that were said to attract the Briginshaw test related to the conduct of persons who were not litigants in these proceedings; the accusation of adultery in Briginshaw, the accusation of fraud in Neat Holdings and the accusation of paternity in G v H were all made against the respondents in the proceedings. Whilst not overlooking that the Commonwealth, as the respondent, was alleged to be vicariously liable for the conduct of Messrs Walter and Constable, the question is whether the Briginshaw test should be applied with respect to the conduct of a person who was not a party to the proceedings. Unaided by authority, I would have thought that such a question would have to be answered strongly in the affirmative. The rights of non-parties are equally deserving of protection as are the rights of litigants, yet non-parties are in a highly vulnerable position. Unlike a litigant, they are not entitled to legal representation; they cannot mount a defence nor call witnesses to support them. For those reasons I believe that the principles of Briginshaw have equal and like application to persons whether they are, or are not, parties to the litigation. The industry of counsel did, however, turn up an authority on this issue which supports the conclusion that I have reached. In Wati v Minister for Immigration and Ethnic Affairs (1996) 71 FCR 103, the applicant sought to set aside an adverse decision of the Immigration Review Tribunal on the basis that its decision had been induced or affected by fraud. The fraud was said to be that of a third party, one who was ill-disposed towards the applicant, who had fraudulently misled the Tribunal by giving it false information. After referring to Briginshaw Lindgren J concluded that the applicant had to meet the Briginshaw test. He said at 113: "The standard of proof according to which Ms Wati must establish that the IRT's decision to affirm the delegate's decision was induced or affected by fraud is the civil one, usually referred to as 'the balance of probabilities'. But an allegation of fraud is a serious one not to be made lightly, and it is perhaps a particularly grave thing to allege, not only that a fraud was perpetrated against the victim of it, but that it was also practised on a court or tribunal conducting a hearing." More recently, the strength of that authority has been confirmed in Slayman v Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs (Foster J, 12 August 1997, unreported); Susaki v Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs [1999] FCA 196 at 6; and Jama v Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs [2000] FCA 524 at 12. 352 In my opinion, it is incumbent on the applicants to meet the Briginshawtest with respect to the allegations that have been made about the conduct of Mr Walter and the conduct of Mr Constable. The Rule in Jones v Dunkel 353 A party who, without explanation, fails to call, as a witness, a person whom he or she might reasonably be expected to call, can attract the application of the principle enunciated by Windeyer J in Jones v Dunkel (1959) 101 CLR 298. Both the applicants and the Commonwealth seek to invoke the rule as a result of the absence of witnesses who were said to be material witnesses. Whilst it is possible to state the rule in general terms, its application must be considered with regard to each situation in which a witness is alleged to be absent; the rule is not to be used to complete gaps in the evidence or to convert conjecture into inference. The rule is that the unexplained failure of a party to give evidence may, in appropriate circumstances, lead to an inference that the uncalled evidence would not have assisted that party's case, so entitling a court the more readily to draw an inference against that party which might otherwise fairly be drawn from the evidence which was adduced. In essence, an inference may be drawn contrary to the interests of a party who, although having it within his or her power to provide or give evidence on some issue, declines to do so. 354 That principle has recently been succinctly stated by the High Court in RPS v R [2000] 168 ALR 729 at 737: "In a civil trial there will very often be a reasonable expectation that a party would give or call relevant evidence. It will, therefore, be open in such a case to conclude that the failure of a party (or someone in that party's camp) to give evidence leads rationally to an inference that the evidence of that party or witness would not help the party's case: Jones v Dunkel (1959) 101 CLR 298 at 312 per Windeyer J and that 'where an inference is open from facts proved by direct evidence and the question is whether it should be drawn, the circumstance that the defendant disputing it might have proved the contrary had he chosen to give evidence is properly to be taken into account as a circumstance in favour of drawing the inference.'" 355 In Cross on Evidence, Butterworths, [4th Ed] D Byrne, JD Heydon, vol 1 at [1215] it is said: "[t]he rule [in Jones v Dunkel] only applies where a party is 'required to explain or contradict' something. What a party is required to explain or contradict depends on the issues in the case as thrown up in the pleadings and by the course of evidence in the case. No inference can be drawn unless evidence is given of facts 'requiring an answer'." (footnotes omitted) That passage from Cross on Evidence was quoted with approval in the joint judgment of Gleeson CJ and McHugh J in Schillenberg v Tunnell Holdings Pty Ltd [2000] 170 ALR 594 at 608-609. 356 The rule cannot be applied to the non calling of a witness unless it would be natural for the party to call the witness, or the party might reasonably be expected to call the witness: O'Donnell v Reichard [1975] VR 916 at 929; or as Glass JA said in Payne v Parker [1976] 1 NSWLR 191 at 201-202: "the missing witness would be expected to be called by one party rather than the other, … is also described as existing where it would be natural for one party to produce the witness: Wigmore, par. 286, or the witness would be expected to be available to one party rather than the other or where the circumstances excuse one party from calling the witness but require the other party to call him, or where he might be regarded as in the camp of one party, so as to make it unrealistic for the other party to call him, or where the witness' knowledge may be regarded as the knowledge of one party rather than the other, or where his absence should be regarded as adverse to the case of one party rather than the other. It has been observed that the higher the missing witness stands in the confidence of one party, the more reason there will be for thinking that his knowledge is available to that party rather than to his adversary. If the witness is equally available to both parties, for example, a police officer, the condition, generally speaking, stands unsatisfied." (footnotes omitted) However, the rule has no application if the failure to call the witness is explained. For example a reasonable explanation for non attendance is illness or other unavailability, or by loss of memory or refusal to waive privilege: Payne v Parker. Any explanation must be established by evidence and is not merely to be presumed from the passage of time: West v Government Insurance Office NSW (1981) 148 CLR 62 at 70. Furthermore, the onus of establishing unavailability is on the party against whom the rule in Jones v Dunkel operates: Smith v Samuels (1976) 12 SASR 573. Thus I was satisfied, as a result of the medical evidence that was presented by the Commonwealth, that illness prevented Mr Harry Giese from giving evidence. As the Director of Welfare at the time of Peter Gunner's removal, he had the potential to be a most important witness. In the normal course of events, one would have expected the Commonwealth to call him as a witness in their defence. 357 The unexplained failure by a party to call witnesses may, not must, in appropriate circumstances, lead to an inference that the uncalled evidence would not have assisted that party's case: Jones v Dunkel at 308, 312 and 320-321. See also Brandi v Mingot (1976) 12 ALR 551 at 559-560 and Spence v Demasi (1988) 48 SASR 536. But such failure would rarely give rise to a positive inference that any evidence would necessarily have been adverse to the party failing to call that evidence. The appropriate inference to draw is a question of fact to be answered by reference to all the circumstances of the case and perhaps no adverse inference at all may be appropriate: Spence v Demasi and Packer v Cameron (1989) 54 SASR 246. 358 The significance to be attributed to the fact that a witness did not give evidence will, in the end, depend upon whether, in the circumstances, it is to be inferred that the reason why the witness was not called was because the party who was expected to call him feared to do so. But there may be circumstances in which such an inference is not available or, if available, is of little significance. For example the party "may not be in a position to call the witness. [H]e may not be sufficiently aware of what the witness would say to warrant the inference that, in the relevant sense, he feared to call him": Fabre v Arenales (1992) 27 NSWLR 437 at 449-450. 359 In summary, the authorities indicate that one cannot normally infer that absent evidence would necessarily have been adverse to a party, but may infer that it would not have assisted that party's case. Nevertheless, the rule does not prevent an inference that is favourable to the party who has failed to call the witness from being drawn, as other evidence may justify the drawing of the inference: Flack v Chairperson, National Crime Authority (1997) 150 ALR 153 at 164 per Hill J. 360 There are two further aspects of the rule that are of relevance to this matter. First, in Cross on Evidence at paragraph [1210] it is remarked that the rule does not operate to require a party to give merely cumulative evidence, such that if five people attended a relevant meeting, and some are called, no Jones v Dunkel inference can normally arise in respect of those who are not. Essentially, the rule does not compel time to be wasted by calling unnecessary witnesses. However, that statement by no means provides a shield against a justifiable criticism that a party deliberately kept less favourable witnesses from testifying. A further aspect of the rule is that the evidence of the missing witness must be such as would have elucidated a matter, in that the witness must have some knowledge of the event or issue. This characteristic of the rule was explained by Glass JA in Payne v Parker at 202: "… the condition is made out when the witness is presumably able to put a true complexion on the facts, might have proved the contrary, would have had a close knowledge of the facts, or where it appears that he had knowledge. I would think it insufficient to meet the requirements of principle that one party merely claims that the missing witness has knowledge, or that, upon the evidence, he may have knowledge. Unless, upon the evidence, the tribunal of fact is entitled to conclude that he probably would have knowledge, there would seem to be no basis for any adverse deduction from the failure to call him." (footnotes omitted) 361 Finally, it must be remembered that the principle in Jones v Dunkel may apply to both parties. That being so, the operation of the principle is not that the failure of one party excuses the failure of the other. The position is that competing inferences that the uncalled evidence would not have assisted either side arises and the trier of fact must then consider the evidence that is before it in the light of those inferences: Brandi v Mingot. 362 In my opinion, to use the failure to call a witness against a party, I must be satisfied before drawing an inference, that the witness was there to see or hear something of which he or she can give evidence and that the witness was available in the sense that his or her absence has not been satisfactorily explained. However, even though I am satisfied about the availability of a witness and even though there has been no explanation for his or her absence, I may, but I am not bound to draw an inference adverse to the relevant party. Lorna Nelson Cubillo and The Retta Dixon Home 363 Before considering the evidence of Mrs Cubillo, I propose to discuss the evidence of Mr Penhall. Because of the part that he played in her removal from Phillip Creek, it is of value to know about the man and his subsequent career in the Native Affairs Branch. His evidence was also of assistance in understanding the operations of the Branch and the work of patrol officers. 364 Mr Penhall, who was born in 1923, was aged seventy-six when giving his evidence; he commenced working in the Commonwealth Public Service in 1938. In 1941, he was appointed a clerk with the Native Affairs Branch in the Northern Territory Administration in Darwin. Apart from war service, Mr Penhall stayed in the public service in Native Affairs (except for a period of about six years) until his retirement in 1983. At the time of his appointment in 1941, Mr Penhall said that there were only two patrol officers with the Native Affairs Branch who were stationed in Darwin – Gordon Sweeney and Bill Harney. Mr Penhall was in Darwin in February 1942 when the Japanese commenced bombing the town. He, with others, was given various tasks, one of which was to salvage as many records as possible. But, as he said, it was not possible to save everything; numerous documents and official papers were lost. After his discharge from the army in 1946, Mr Penhall was posted to the Native Affairs Branch in Alice Springs, first as a clerk and, shortly after, as a cadet patrol officer. At about the same time, three further cadet patrol officers were appointed: Messrs Fred Gubbins, Syd Kyle‑Little and Ted Evans. The Territory was divided into two divisions – the northern division which covered the area from Tennant Creek up to and beyond Darwin and the southern division which covered the area south of Tennant Creek down to Alice Springs and the South Australian border. 365 When Mr Penhall commenced work as a cadet patrol officer there was already in existence a system of ration depots for Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people. Rations were limited to such basics as tea, flour, sugar, golden syrup and tobacco. Originally, all police stations were ration depots but, with time, that changed. The police stations ceased to be ration depots and that responsibility was taken up by the Native Affairs Branch which established depots at existing Aboriginal Settlements. Missions that were run by religious organisations had, at one time also been ration depots, but some of those were phased out. For example, Phillip Creek was eventually taken over from the Aborigines Inland Mission in the early 1950s and run by the Commonwealth. When asked what effect those changes had on the Aboriginal population, Mr Penhall gave the following evidence: "Well, that certainly affected them inasmuch as a number of them stayed there, but of course a number of them then started to work and these ration depots developed from being a ration depot into almost a complete settlement with all facilities. A gradual improvement in the conditions in various areas. What sort of facilities developed there? --- Well, the first one of course was health facilities and then we tried to get the education facilities operating, but also you had to have hygiene workers and mechanics and this sort of – these sort of people to assist in running the place and also trying to teach the Aboriginals how to do it themselves. Yes. When did all of that occur? --- Well, it was a gradual sort of progression, you know. It took a number of years to establish and to become, well, become effective." 366 At the time of Mr Penhall's posting to Alice Springs in 1946, Gordon Sweeney was stationed there as one of the patrol officers. Mr Penhall had a very high opinion of Mr Sweeney. He referred to him as a "very compassionate man" who "just worked basically for the benefit of Aboriginals". Mr Penhall commenced learning the work of a patrol officer by accompanying Mr Sweeney on his patrols throughout the district. He said that Bill Harney was also stationed in Alice Springs in 1946 as was Barney McGinness who was employed as a driver. Mr Penhall spoke very highly of Bill Harney and the Commonwealth's witness Creed Lovegrove. He referred to both of them in their work as patrol officers as very compassionate men. Another cadet patrol officer who was also stationed in Alice Springs at the time of Mr Penhall's posting was Fred Gubbins. Mr Gubbins was also a witness for the Commonwealth in these proceedings. In 1946, Ted Evans and Syd Kyle-Little were cadet patrol officers stationed in Darwin and Ron Ryan joined the Darwin Branch as a patrol officer in 1949. Speaking of Ted Evans, Mr Penhall said "his sole interest in life was helping and working with Aboriginal people". He said much the same of Ron Ryan. 367 In 1948 Mr Penhall, together with Ted Evans and Syd Kyle-Little, attended a twelve month course at the Australian School of Pacific Administration. That course had been established initially to train officers for patrol work in New Guinea but it was expanded sometime in the 1950s to include patrol officers who were working in the Northern Territory. Subjects that he studied included anthropology, linguistics, criminal law and tropical medicine. It is of some interest to mention the need for studies in tropical medicine. Mr Penhall explained that in their work, patrol officers came across such diseases as leprosy, malaria and yaws; they were expected to administer first aid which, in the case of yaws, included a series of injections. Criminal law was studied because in the 1940s and 1950s an Aboriginal person, charged with a criminal offence, had to be represented by a patrol officer unless he or she was legally represented. These were duties that were additional to their principal tasks which centred upon the inspection and supervision of Aboriginal communities and pastoral properties where Aboriginal persons were employed. 368 Mr Penhall passed the course at the Australian School of Pacific Administration and returned to work at Alice Springs as a patrol officer. At that time, his immediate superior in the Alice Springs Branch was the Acting District Welfare Officer, Mr Billy McCoy. In 1955 Mr Penhall was promoted to the position of District Welfare Officer in Darwin, a position previously held by his mentor, Gordon Sweeney. However, his work in Darwin did not include Retta Dixon Home as part of his responsibilities. 369 With the change in the legislation and the introduction of the Welfare Ordinance, the Native Affairs Branch became known as the Welfare Branch and the Welfare Branch was divided into two sections: "General Welfare" and "Aboriginal Welfare". 370 It may be of assistance if I explained at this stage the difference in duties between patrol officers and welfare officers. Although the Welfare Ordinance did not come into operation until May 1957, some female personnel had earlier been appointed welfare officers to carry out general welfare work. According to Mr Jeremy Long, the female welfare officers were responsible, primarily, for welfare work in the towns among the white population and those of mixed Aboriginal or other blood. 371 Mrs Moy, during the course of her cross-examination, agreed that the welfare of full blood Aboriginals was dealt with by patrol officers whilst, in the main, the welfare officers cared for part Aboriginals. Mr Lovegrove was asked to explain the difference in duties between welfare officers and patrol officers. He answered by saying that the patrol officers were largely "responsible for matters relating to full-blood Aboriginal people" whilst the welfare officers dealt with matters of "general welfare", which included the welfare of children "in the wider community" and the inspections and reports on institutions. He also said that, as a patrol officer, he was expected to try to persuade the mothers of the part Aboriginal children that their children "would be better off if they went somewhere where they could get an education". The following exchange then took place between counsel for the Commonwealth and Mr Lovegrove: "Did you attend to that duty? --- Not really. No? --- I mean, I did talk to Aboriginal mothers about their part Aboriginal kids and about their education, but I didn't do any more than that about it." 372 Mr Lovegrove submitted a report dated 25 February 1954. It summarised his activities for the twelve months that ended on 31 December 1953. Under the heading: "Part Aboriginal Children", he wrote: "On the stations visited by me there were 27 part-aboriginal children (10 male and 17 female) under the age of ten years. Of these – 4 males and 5 females are the children of part aboriginal-full blood combination and are living with their father and mother as a family unit. … Unfortunately none of the remaining children were voluntarily offered for removal to an institution although in each case the mother was approached and the advisability of such a move was explained to her. For the five years prior to 1953 this district was patrolled by the one Patrol Officer and the natives came to know him well and were in many cases, willing to hand their part-aboriginal children to him for removal as he thought fit. I came to them as a comparative stranger and I can quite realise their unwillingness to afford me the same, rather dubious, privilege." Mr Lovegrove explained his reference to a "rather dubious privilege" this way: "Well, I'm not the sort of person who would've enjoyed taking a child away from its family, unless it was - unless there was some compelling reason, welfare-wise, that it should be done." 373 Based in part upon his experience as a patrol officer and based in part upon his studies as a research officer, Mr Jeremy Long was able to offer assistance in explaining the work of a patrol officer. In the first place, there was a need for patrol officers to understand what was happening in the Aboriginal communities and to explain those happenings to others in the Administration. There was a separate need to inspect conditions of employment on the cattle stations and to act as a "go-between" on behalf of the Aboriginal people with the station owners and, also, with the Government. One matter of significance to which Mr Long referred was the subject of culture. As he said, there was a radical difference and a huge cultural gap between the former nomadic hunter and the commercial economy into which the Aborigines were moving as employees on cattle stations. On the other hand, as Mr Long acknowledged in cross-examination, he was aware of cases where part Aboriginal people had become successfully integrated into an Aboriginal community; he agreed that Sonny Jim Kunoth, whose circumstances as a part Aboriginal child at Utopia Station are discussed later in these reasons, was an example of that integration. 374 Mrs Moy agreed that the welfare of wards was a very important consideration for the Welfare Branch and that the Welfare Branch had a responsibility to look after wards. Her attention was directed to a letter that was undated, but which the parties agreed had been written some time in 1954 by Mr McCaffrey in his capacity as the Acting Director of Native Affairs. The letter was addressed to Miss Shankelton and it concerned a girl called Mabel. Mr McCaffrey wrote that Mabel was a ward of his Branch, having been committed to the Retta Dixon Home on 28 February 1953. Mabel was pregnant and Miss Shankelton had written her father about her pregnancy and the possibility of marriage. Mr McCaffrey was not backward in telling Miss Shankelton his views: "For your information, it is directed that any matters affecting the future welfare of wards of this Branch shall be referred in the first instance to this office for consideration by the child's legal guardian. This administrative direction affects all wards committed to the care and custody of the Retta Dixon Home." The letter was put to Mrs Moy in cross-examination and she agreed that his statement of responsibility as the legal guardian of the child coincided with her understanding of the responsibility of the Director of Welfare. I interpret the Acting Director's letter as a clear indication that he believed that the administration had a direct involvement in the control of the children even though they were residing in a Home. 375 As an example of the division of labour between a patrol officer and welfare officer, Mr Long explained that normally a welfare officer would have the responsibility of investigating whether a child should be a ward. However, the division was blurred; he acknowledged in cross-examination that the duty statement for patrol officers in 1958 included the responsibility for exercising general supervision over all matters affecting the welfare of wards, including their removal from a reserve or a district. That same duty statement included a direction that it was the duty of patrol officers "to observe and report" on part coloured children in native camps". 376 In 1958, the last year of his service, Mr Colin MacLeod was stationed at Alice Springs as a patrol officer. He was working under Mr Billy McCoy, the District Welfare Officer, a person for whom he had little regard. Sister Eileen and Mrs Ballagh were also there at that time, working as welfare officers. Mr MacLeod said that their duties were entirely separate to his. They were concerned with members of the general community, including part Aboriginals, whereas the work of a patrol officer was devoted primarily to full blood Aboriginals. He said that there would have been times when his work took him to St Mary's but the Bungalow was the place that he most often visited; he could not recall any particular occasion when he visited St Mary's. According to Mr Penhall's evidence, welfare officers were appointed to and worked in the General Welfare Section. He said that it was not normal practice for welfare officers to accompany patrol officers on patrols. However, as he explained, they might be sent out to a specific location "where there may be families that needed welfare assistance". As for patrol officers he said: "Well, they worked with the welfare officers, particularly on areas where Aborigines were involved, but not where Europeans or persons of Aboriginal descent were involved." 377 In 1960 Mr Penhall was again promoted; he transferred to Alice Springs to take up the newly created position of Assistant Director Southern Division, a position which he held until 1967 when he was appointed Assistant Director, Northern Division, stationed in Darwin. On being appointed Assistant Director Southern Division in 1960, Mr Penhall overtook his previous superior officer, Mr McCoy, who unsuccessfully appealed against Mr Penhall's appointment. Mr McCoy thereafter remained the District Welfare Officer in Alice Springs. At that point in time Mrs Ballagh and Sister Eileen were still stationed in Alice Springs as welfare officers. 378 In 1970, Mr Penhall studied in Canada, the United States and Mexico on a Churchill Scholarship. He studied in the area of the effects of alcohol on indigenous people and upon completion of his studies he returned to the Welfare Branch as a Special Projects Officer. Thereafter, for a period of six years, until the Northern Territory obtained self-government in 1978, Mr Penhall worked as the Executive Officer for the Transport Planning Branch in the Northern Territory Administration. With self-administration, he took up the position of Executive Officer with the Aboriginal Liaison Unit in the Chief Minister's Department and Adviser to the Chief Minister. He remained in that position until he retired in 1983. It is apparent from his experience, and from the successive promotions that he achieved throughout his working career, that Mr Penhall has a great depth of knowledge of Aboriginal affairs. I respect that knowledge. Additionally, I accept him as an honest witness, but as one who, because of the length of time, was quite often unsure of events and of his participation in events. Nevertheless, he gave his evidence to the best of his ability. Where Mr Penhall was able to recall a particular event, I accept what he said in respect of that event. However, in one area, his evidence about the extended family of a part Aboriginal child was at variance with that of other witnesses. I prefer the evidence of the other witnesses but I am satisfied that Mr Penhall still gave his evidence in accordance with his memory of the events. He had said, in speaking of the personal circumstances of part Aboriginal children, that it was his experience that the only person who was interested in the child was the child's mother. If a grandmother, for example was present and showed interest in the child, he would then take that into account but it was his evidence that the part Aboriginal child "didn't really have an extended family at that particular moment in time". Although the evidence was not unanimous, there was enough evidence of examples to the contrary, to hold that it would be an error to say that part Aboriginal children could never be part of the extended Aboriginal family. 379 During the course of his cross-examination, a series of factors were put to Mr Penhall as matters that he would consider when making an assessment of the personal circumstances of a part Aboriginal child. The factors to which he agreed, as matters that he would weigh up in deciding whether or not to recommend that a child should be brought in, included the child's age and state of health, the food and care that were available for the child, and whether the child was accepted by his or her family and by other children. If the child was healthy and was attending a school, Mr Penhall said that the Welfare Branch would "have nothing to do with it". It was put to Mr Penhall in cross-examination that in 1949, at the time when he compiled a lengthy report on his inspections of various stations, "the consent or otherwise of the mother was irrelevant as to whether that child would have been brought in or not". Mr Penhall would not accept that proposition. He said "No, I'm sorry. I do not agree". 380 He acknowledged that removals had taken place in the 1940s and he acknowledged that the taking of the children from their mothers was a patrol officer's most hated task because of the emotions that were involved. However, Mr Penhall insisted that in the 1940s the patrol officers talked to the mothers and convinced them that it was in the best interests of the children for their health and education to go with the patrol officers; "they were certainly not forcibly removed". 381 Apart from his involvement in moving the children from Phillip Creek, Mr Penhall said that, in his time as a patrol officer, there was only one other occasion in which he was involved in the movement of children. That event occurred in 1949. He said that, following the completion of his Barkly Tablelands patrol, he received a telegram at the Rankin River Police Station from Mr McCoy to proceed to the Anthony Lagoon Police Station to pick up four children and take them to the Retta Dixon Home at Darwin. He did not know then why the children were to be taken in and he did not recall when giving his evidence very much detail about the incident. The most he could say was "I'd say they were without their parents, I don't know". He was not aware of any resistance and he had no recollection of any complaint. Mr Penhall was shown a report that had been compiled by him on 24 November 1949 in relation to a child whom he had brought in for medical treatment. In the report Mr Penhall recorded that the child "had been abandoned by the natives and is suffering from malnutrition"; he recommended that the child should be kept at St Mary's. Mr Penhall said that he had no memory of this incident but he did not doubt the accuracy of the report. Two comments may be made about this report. First, it contradicts his recollections that he never brought in a part Aboriginal child; secondly, however, it contradicts any general proposition that all part Aboriginal children were accepted into the Aboriginal community. 382 Mr Penhall said that he did not, as a patrol officer, have any specific instructions with respect to part Aboriginal children. He said of them, that they were to be found, mainly, on cattle stations; he had no recollection of finding them with nomadic tribes. Mr Penhall was asked a series of questions in evidence in chief on the subject of "policy". He said that when he returned to the Native Affairs Branch in 1946: "… the policy was purely and simply an endeavour to assist Aboriginals." Mr Penhall did, however, emphasise that it was a policy that no child could be removed from his or her family without the consent of the Director of Native Affairs. He said that this policy had always existed but that, prior to the 1953 amendments, there had been some measure of latitude; however, so he said, the amendments meant that there had to be strict adherence to policy guidelines as laid down by the Government. That was also about the time when Sir Paul Hasluck became very active. As Mr Penhall perceived it, Sir Paul was instrumental in introducing a policy of assimilation. When asked to state his understanding of the assimilation policy, Mr Penhall said: "From my point of view we were endeavouring to give these people the necessary skills to become economically viable, independent individuals within the Australian community." 383 The Leydin memorandum was shown to Mr Penhall whilst he was being cross-examined. Mr Penhall said that he had heard about the incident at Wave Hill when two children were taken into Darwin by aeroplane. It was put to him that there would have been no need for Mr Leydin to refer to a "violation" of "human rights" if, as Mr Penhall said, children were only brought in with their mother's consent. He was forced to concede that the language of the memorandum did not fit in with his claims that the removal of part Aboriginal children was as a consequence of a consensual arrangement with the child's mother. Mr Penhall agreed that there was a policy of removal of part Aboriginal children in the 1940s but it was his evidence that "the practical application of that policy" was different to "what was actually in writing". In asserting this, he, of course, stood by his evidence that he was never personally involved in any removal of any child. He continued to maintain throughout his cross-examination that he had no personal knowledge of any forced removal but he was eventually forced to concede that if there had been such removals of the type referred to by Mr Evans at Wave Hill it would have been "outrageous". Mr Penhall attempted to make clear what I accept to be his present memory of the events of fifty years ago. He was endeavouring to avoid the confrontational issue of what might have been Government policy, by answering how he, as a patrol officer, carried out his duties. Although he did not use these words, the effect of his evidence was that even if Government policy allowed for part Aboriginal children to be brought in without a mother's consent, he would never have done that. His answer was as follows: "You're making it extremely difficult to get the concept over that patrol officers did not go out of their way to remove children. They went to assist children, to try and assist mothers, to try and give children a chance in life. While the policy was - and as far as I'm concerned it was never laid down in legislation, the policy was removal of part-Aboriginal children, yes, I agree with that. The application of that policy is what I am querying at the present time." 384 When asked about the education of part Aboriginal children, Mr Penhall said that they, as distinct from full blood children were educated in the same manner as white children. Mr Penhall said that although he recommended from time to time that some part Aboriginal children be brought in for education, he had no recollection of ever being involved in the forced separation of a child from his or her family. Because of the importance of the subject, I set out his evidence: "How was it that children, half-caste children on the stations to whom you've referred attended those schools? How was that achieved? --- Well, there were – I suppose you'd call them boarding colleges. There was St Mary's in Alice Springs and also Griffiths House, [a Hostel for white children in Alice Springs] which was another one, where bush children were brought in stayed and were accommodated while they attended school. Yes. Who arranged that? --- Well, most of it was done by the parents of the children themselves. It was only in isolated instances where perhaps we were involved in suggesting that a child be brought in for educational purposes. And what were those isolated instances? --- Again, mainly because in some areas that the child was being neglected and it would be suggested to the mother that it would be a good idea for the child to come in to receive education and live in a place with other children. To us the welfare of the child was paramount at all times. You said it would be suggested to the mother. Who would make such a suggestion? --- Probably us. I mean, if she was in trouble we'd certainly make the suggestion to her. Did this apply to every half-caste child who you saw? --- No. A lot of them were living with their families and they were never ever removed. Now, was there ever an occasion in which you participated in which a child was removed against the will of its mother or father? --- I can't recall it." 385 During his time as a patrol officer in the late 1940s and the early 1950s Mr Penhall's work brought him into regular contact with Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people. He was, I find, in a position to make observations about all aspects of their lifestyle, their living conditions and their method of living as well as their working conditions. When asked in cross-examination to describe living conditions in native camps, Mr Penhall said: "Well, basically extremely primitive. Most of them were living in very poor conditions, in windbreaks, and just with some branches put across the prevailing wind. They'd be sleeping in groups with small fires in between them to keep them warm at night. They'd have probably a lot of areas, because there was no rubbish collection, with empty tins. There were bones of dead animals or animals that they'd had, lying around the place everywhere. There were flies everywhere. The old women would not go very far to urinate and the whole thing, to me, was very – they were living in squalor." Yet despite these dreadful conditions, Mr Penhall was satisfied with their general state of health. He attributed this to western influences. He gave as an example "the girls who'd worked in the station homestead with the wife, they were usually all showered and changed into clean dresses". 386 At this stage in the proceedings, Mr Rush QC for the applicants, objected to the line of evidence that dealt with living conditions in native camps. He pointed out that his clients had called witnesses, some of whom had lived either at Banka Banka Station or at the Phillip Creek Settlement and others who had lived at Utopia Station. He said, correctly, that none of these witnesses had been cross-examined about the living conditions in those places. He submitted that it offended the rule in Browne v Dunn (1894) 6 R 67 to permit Mr Penhall to give evidence on this subject. When pressed on the subject, he went so far as to say that "we would be refuting the idea of flies, or dead animals and bones and squalor". The position that was taken by Mr Meagher QC for the Commonwealth, and one with which, on reflection, I agreed was that it was not a matter of the living conditions at one or two particular locations that was of importance. Rather it was a perception of the living conditions of Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people on the stations at large that Mr Penhall's evidence was addressing. If, as Mr Meagher said, there was to be an attack on the policies of the Commonwealth, then it was relevant and important to know the views of patrol officers (such as Mr Penhall) who had first hand knowledge of those conditions. In fact, at a later stage of his evidence, Mr Penhall said that the native camp at Utopia was in good condition. Mr Penhall said that Alec McLeod was "a very strong character" who was very strict, particularly in matters relating to the Aboriginal people's hygiene. Mr Penhall added that Mrs McLeod also insisted on adherence to hygiene. Mr Penhall was of the opinion that Aboriginal people at Utopia "were quite well looked after". In my opinion, the evidence of Mr Penhall on the general subject of camp conditions was admissible and relevant. 387 Exhibit R177 contained a variety of reports, including a report that was compiled by Mr Penhall following one of his periodic inspections of cattle stations. One such report of Mr Penhall, which was undated, related to a visit that he made to Angas Downs Station. That was the station where Peter Gunner worked when he left St Mary's. It dealt with the conditions and the circumstances of the Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people who were living on the Station. Under the heading of "Natives" it was recorded that there were "33 Pitjinjara" (sic) on the Station, but no "Half-castes". Their accommodation was described as "[B]ush wurlies and wind breaks, no latrine or laundry facilities". 388 During the same patrol, Mr Penhall visited numerous other stations and, in respect of each of them, he included cryptic comments about a variety of matters, such as the living conditions of the Aboriginal people and the particulars of half-castes. Set out hereunder are some of his remarks that dealt with living conditions. For the most part, they are a litany of deplorable conditions giving the gravest cause for concern about the well being of the people who had to survive in such circumstances. For example, at Deep Well Station there were: "Bush humpies – the natives were given a tent but this is now wrapped around the humpies." Nevertheless, Mr Penhall reported that the natives were happy; he reported that the "only matters" that required attention were "accommodation, latrine and laundry facilities". The use of wurlies and the lack of latrine and laundry facilities were recurring themes in his reports; they were mentioned in his reports on Erldunda, Idracowra, Kulgera and Lilla Creek Stations – to name but a few. However, not all stations were so lacking; one exception to the general trend was Henbury Station. As to that Station, Mr Penhall reported on accommodation as follows: "Accommodation: Practically all part aboriginal people live in wood and iron constructed huts, some having as many as two or three rooms with 6 foot verandahs on one side. It is only a few of the very old natives who camp in, and still retain their bush wurlies." He also said that the health of the Aboriginals was good, the camp was clean and tidy and that there were latrines and a laundry with ample water. Mr Penhall's report on Henbury Station contained an interesting note under the heading "Half-caste". As a contemporaneous note, it serves the very useful purpose of exposing the attitudes and thinking of a patrol officer in the late 1940s and earlier 1950s. I find that the note supports the oral evidence of Mr Penhall that he and others like him at the time, were motivated to act in the best interests of the part Aboriginal child. The note, which is set out hereunder, is limited in its content to education but I accept Mr Penhall's evidence that health was also a matter of concern to the patrol officers. His report read as follows: "Half-caste: Out of the 31 coloured people on the Station only two are exempt, namely Gordon Abbott and Kenneth Swan. These were granted as a result of war service. The remainder have been born and brought up on Henbury and are quite satisfied with their conditions. Some of the children have received education at Hermannsburg, but have not progressed very far. The overcrowding of Hostels in the Alice Springs Area, prohibits the children from receiving schooling, so I would suggest that next year if the position has eased, some of the younger, near white kiddies could be brought in. Mr. Pearce is giving all the youths a good training in stockwork, and is keen on educating the others." 389 The same concerned approach (although strongly flavoured with racial overtones) is apparent from some of his other reports. He discussed the personal circumstances of Alice M-- and her young daughter, Helen, whom he found at Mt Quinn Station. He wrote: "Half-caste: Alice M-- aged 20 daughter of Billy M-- three-quarter black and full-blood living in camp. Helen M-- aged 1 year daughter of Alice M-- and full-blood. I don't recommend any action regarding these two. They are not over endowed with white blood, and no good purpose could be served by removing them." At New Crown Station there was another part Aboriginal girl of whom he wrote: "Half-caste: The girl Emmie is about 15 or 16 years of age and is reticent regarding her history. She has apparently been absorbed into the tribe and can speak very little English. She is quite happy to remain in the camp and I don't think it would help her in any way to remove her from her present environment." 390 Another of Mr Penhall's reports to which reference need be made is that concerning Renners Rock Station and its owner, Mr RH Buck. In his report, the following passage appears: "Half-caste: Two girls aged 7 and 14 years. Mr. Buck has assumed responsibility for these girls and in looking after them. This is contrary to the Ordinance but as Mr. Buck is now 75 years old there would be no danger of illicit relationship. The girls were very well clothed and in excellent health, they are daughters of Sonny B, three-quarter white (deceased) and full-blood TUNGO. One is too old for educating the other could possibly be brought in next year for schooling." Mr Penhall said, in answer to questions put to him during the course of his cross-examination, that he was "rapped over the knuckles" by his Director in Darwin because he had no right to assume that Mr Buck would be able to look after the children. The questions and answers that followed were, in my opinion, significant for they showed that Mr Penhall was prepared to agree with the cross-examiner that there was in existence a general policy for the removal of part Aboriginal children for the purposes of their education. The passage in cross-examination was as follows: "Well, that was a fairly reasonable rap over the knuckles if you have a look at your next paragraph, isn't it? --- Yeah. That you were of the view that the 14-year-old girl should stay and that the 7-year-old should be looked at the following year? --- Yeah. And I suggest that would be because the 7-year-old fitted into the general policy of removal? --- Yes. Her age was right in relation to education? --- Yes." 391 The last of Mr Penhall's reports to which reference should be made is that dealing with a young child at Tempe Downs Station. The relevant extract in the report is: "Half-caste: Jack O'D-- from Queensland been on Tempe Downs for 7 years, married to full-blood. Not exempt in Northern Territory and also one girl about 2 years old. Father unknown. Would suggest that this kiddie be brought in for education purposes when old enough. Mr. O'Brien will co-operate in this respect." Once again the emphasis on education can be seen, although in this report, as in some of the others to which reference has been made, nothing is said about counselling the child's mother or obtaining her consent. There were several other references in his reports to various part Aboriginal children but there is little point in chronicling them because Mr Penhall cannot now recall whether or not his recommendations were accepted. 392 There are no documents from the files of the Native Affairs Branch or the Retta Dixon Home dealing specifically with the removal of Lorna Nelson from Philip Creek or her admission to the Home. However, six years after her admission, on 18 August 1953, a committal order ("the committal order") was made by Mr McCaffrey, the Acting Director of Native Affairs, acting under ss 6 and 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance. Under it, he committed Lorna "to the custody of the Retta Dixon Home, Darwin until 8 August 1956", her eighteenth birthday. No contemporaneous documents were tendered in evidence that would show on what basis Lorna was admitted to the Retta Dixon Home or on what basis she lived there prior to the making of the committal order; nor have any such documents been found that show whether the Director of Native Affairs asserted or exercised any coercive power in relation to Lorna's admission to the Retta Dixon Home. 393 Mr Milliken was not able to recall that he had any involvement with Lorna Nelson whilst she was at the Retta Dixon Home. That is understandable as he did not take up his duties in Darwin until late in 1955 and she left Retta Dixon about a year or so later. During his evidence in chief, Mr Milliken's attention was drawn to the committal order. Mr Milliken was asked whether he could explain why, if Lorna first went to the Retta Dixon Home in 1947, it was not until six years later that a committal order was signed. His explanation, which I accept was to this effect: in the first place, the Director had, as Mr Milliken described it "complete authority to transfer". (The provisions of s 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance justify that statement). In the second place, a material change was about to occur in 1953: with the intended amendments to the legislation, Lorna would no longer be entitled to remain on the Bagot Reserve (on which the Retta Dixon Home was situated). This problem had been addressed by Mr McCaffrey in his memorandum to the Administrator dated 17 August 1953 in which he wrote: "All half-caste children under 18 years of age at present resident in any Reserve or Institution will be committed prior to the commencement of the Ordinance." Mrs Cubillo said that she had no recollection of her biological mother, Maudie. Throughout her evidence in chief, the case for Mrs Cubillo was that Maudie died when she was very young – so long ago that Mrs Cubillo had no memory of her. Mrs Cubillo referred to Maisie Nampijimpa, her maternal aunt, as her mother. She grew up believing that Maisie was her mother. She believed that Maisie, was "highly respected and loved amongst my people". She said that she had happy memories of her childhood and her family; she loved them and, in turn, felt their love. Mrs Cubillo said that she was told that her father was a white man, Horace Nelson, and that he was a soldier. But, as she said, she did not then know what a soldier was; she never knew her father. 394 She claimed in her evidence in chief that she had memories of her childhood at Banka Banka. She told of a house with a red roof, a lemon tree in the garden and the rails around the cattle yards where she used to sit and watch the men working the cattle. She claimed that she could remember digging for yams and collecting bush berries with her grandmother, who also showed her how to dig in a soak for water. 395 Maisie was not accepted, as a matter of law, by the Commonwealth as being Lorna's adoptive mother. Whilst that may be true as a matter of law, I do not think that it is necessary to investigate that particular issue in depth. It is sufficient to accept, as I do, that, as a matter of fact, Lorna's mother was dead, her father had deserted her and Maisie, her maternal aunt, had a very close relationship with her - sufficient for Lorna to grow up thinking that Maisie was her mother. It is an agreed fact that Maisie died in the Tennant Creek Hospital on 7 January 1979, but there is no record of Maudie's death. Mrs Cubillo also remembered her grandmother, Alice, and her many maternal aunts and uncles. She said that all the members of her family worked at Banka Banka – the men with the cattle and the women in the garden. Her grandmother cared for her while Maisie worked in the garden. It was her grandmother who told her that her tribal name was Napanangka. 396 The Commonwealth presented extensive submissions aimed at refuting Mrs Cubillo's claim that she was born at Banka Banka Station. Her birth certificate stated that she was born in Tennant Creek on 8 August 1938 but it is not possible to rely on the information in such a certificate. In the case of Mrs Cubillo, the birth certificate records that the informant was Mr McCaffrey, the Acting Director of Native Affairs, and that the birth was registered in Darwin on 15 March 1954, at which point of time Lorna would have been about fifteen years of age if, indeed, she was born on 8 August 1938. No other evidence, apart from that of Mrs Cubillo and Kathleen Napanangka, her tribal sister,was available to establish her place of birth. Her biological and adoptive mothers and fathers and her grandmother Alice are dead; the station owners at Banka Banka Station, Mr Ted and Mrs Mary Ward are dead. The patrol officers who were operating in that area at the time, Mr Gordon Sweeney and Mr Bill Harney are also dead. No further documentary material has been forthcoming that would shed any light on the subject. Ms Hollingworth for the Commonwealth added that the Court could not even be satisfied that Lorna was ever taken or moved from Banka Banka to the depot at Seven Mile Creek. I would be reluctant to rely on the memory of Mrs Cubillo alone; after all, she was only deposing to what other unnamed persons had told her about her place of birth. However, there was the evidence of Kathleen Napanangka. Kathleen was a daughter of Maisie and, therefore Lorna's first cousin, although in accordance with Aboriginal custom, they referred to each other as sisters. In her evidence in chief, Kathleen had said that Lorna had been born at Banka Banka Station and had lived there as a young child. On the other hand, during the course of her cross-examination, it became apparent that there were doubts about the accuracy of that statement. For example, Kathleen said that she spent the first fifteen years of her life at the Telegraph Station with her mother Maisie where Maisie was working as the cook. Kathleen said that, when she left the Telegraph Station, that is, Seven Mile Creek in 1940 to get married and to go to Banka Banka, Maisie stayed behind at the Telegraph Station with Lorna. That statement suggested that Maudie might already have died; it also appeared to contradict Lorna's memory that Maisie was working in the garden at Banka Banka; furthermore, Kathleen did not explain how Maisie came from the Telegraph Station to Banka Banka. The evidence is tenuous but I think that Kathleen's evidence is sufficient for me to find, as I do, that Lorna Napanangka Nelson was born on Banka Banka Station. 397 Save that the location of Mrs Cubillo's place of birth may assume importance should she wish to participate in a land claim as a traditional owner, whether she was or was not taken from Banka Banka Station is not of critical importance to a resolution of the issues in this case. Mr Rush QC made it clear, during the course of his opening, that the further amended statement of claim alleged that Mrs Cubillo's causes of action arose at the time of her removal from the Phillip Creek Settlement. The Commonwealth accepted that position and presented its submissions upon the premise that there was no allegation that the Commonwealth was, in any way, liable for any removal of Mrs Cubillo from Banka Banka Station, or for any detention of her at Seven Mile Creek or at Six Mile Creek or at the Phillip Creek Native Settlement. 398 Mrs Cubillo said that her biological mother, Maudie, had two other children: Jack, the eldest and Margaret who was the youngest. She added that Maudie had married and that her husband's name was Mick, a Warumungu tribal elder. It was her recollection that Mick worked "for some government people", that she saw him from time to time "but most of the time he was away working with somebody else". Mrs Cubillo said that Mick treated her like a daughter and she regarded him as her father. There were several areas of confusion in Mrs Cubillo's evidence and this was one of them. She stated that she did not know that Maudie was her mother until Maisie's daughter, Polly Kelly, told her at about the time that she, Lorna, left school. By that time, she would have been about eighteen and would have left Banka Banka many years earlier. Nevertheless, she identified Mick as Maudie's husband (not Maisie's husband) and as the man who treated her as his daughter. Why did she regard him as a father figure when she did not know that he had been married to her biological mother? It could not have been a mistake or misunderstanding on Mrs Cubillo's part. Her counsel asked her: "Your natural mother, Maude or Maudie, was she married?" Mrs Cubillo replied: "She was married to Mick, whom I called Dad." 399 Mrs Cubillo's evidence did not support her counsel's submissions that Maisie's husband was Mick nor did the evidence of Ms Vaarzon-Morel who agreed in cross-examination to the proposition that it was Maudie who had married Mick. But Ms Vaarzon-Morel also said, in answer to a proposition from cross-examining counsel, that Mick had adopted Lorna. 400 Mrs Cubillo said that one day she was in a creek bed at Banka Banka Station with Alice, her grandmother, who was cooking yams. She said that she could remember her grandmother taking her to the creek "where she painted me with soot from a billy-can and ashes from the fire". The evidence in the trial has satisfied me that this was a common practice that was adopted by Aboriginal mothers of part Aboriginal children: particularly those with fairer skin. It was an attempt to disguise the children and so to protect them from being taken away by the authorities. Two men on horseback rode up. Her grandmother told her to be quiet and to sit behind her, out of sight of the two men. However, curiosity got the better of the little girl; she peered around her grandmother to see what was happening. She said that one of the two men, whom she named as Barney McGinness, a part Aboriginal, saw her, took her by the hand, led her to the water in the creek and washed the bottom part of her leg; she said that her leg had been covered in soot and ashes. Mrs Cubillo then claimed that Mr McGinness "told the other person that I was a half-caste". That other person was said to be Mr Bill Harney, a patrol officer. Mrs Cubillo continued with her evidence, saying that Mr McGinness lifted her up to Mr Harney, who had remained mounted, and that the two men rode off with her. She said that when they came to a car at the Station gate, they all transferred to it. They then travelled by car to the Telegraph Station (ie the depot at Seven Mile Creek) where there were several people including her Aunts Minnie and Daisie and other members of her family. 401 This particular passage of Mrs Cubillo's evidence was the subject of objection by counsel for the Commonwealth on the grounds of relevance and hearsay. As to relevance, it was submitted that in her pleading, Mrs Cubillo had alleged that she had been unlawfully removed from Phillip Creek and that what happened to her some years earlier was irrelevant. As to hearsay, it was submitted that Mrs Cubillo did not know the two men – she had never seen them before and she had only learnt their names because of what her grandmother had subsequently told her. I ruled against both these objections during the course of the trial. I had formed the opinion that Mrs Cubillo's case against the Commonwealth was based on events that had happened to her as a young girl and as a teenager. I felt that it was the story of her life as a young part Aboriginal girl that was the foundation of her case. In the interests of completeness there was, in my opinion, a strong case to receive into evidence, a narration of all material events that occurred during her time at Banka Banka and subsequently. As to the question of the identity of the two men, it is true that Mrs Cubillo's evidence would be hearsay, based as it was on what her grandmother told her, but so far as I am aware, many identities are the subject of hearsay information. 402 In any event, the claimed prejudice to the Commonwealth in allowing Mrs Cubillo to name the two men was illusory. Their taking of the small girl was no part of the applicant's case; there was no cause of action founded on that taking. If anything, the admission of the evidence rebounded marginally in the Commonwealth's favour for it enabled it to use the deaths of Mr Harney and Mr McGinness as further examples of the prejudice that the Commonwealth might suffer if Mrs Cubillo is granted an extension of time within which to prosecute her case. It has also been of some marginal assistance to the Commonwealth for, as I shall endeavour to explain, Mrs Cubillo's evidence on this subject cannot be accepted as reliable. Such an event, as described by her, would have been a very traumatic event for a small child. To be taken away from her grandmother in such circumstances would have been very distressing. Yet there were aspects of her story that caused me concern. She had earlier said in evidence that she had little knowledge of English as a small child. She said that she spoke the Warumungu and Warlpiri languages but she "didn't have much knowledge of any English". Nevertheless, she claimed that she was able to remember that Mr McGinness said to Mr Harney that she was a "half-caste". I find it difficult to accept that she would have been able to understand and remember such a statement if, as a small child, she was not reasonably fluent in English. Mrs Cubillo was asked in cross-examination whether there was a word in either the Warumungu or the Warlpiri languages for "half-caste"; she said she did not know. It was Mrs Cubillo's evidence that she only learnt that there was a difference between half-caste and full blood people when she went to Phillip Creek. Until then, they "all treated each other the same". Yet despite this passage in her evidence she insisted that Mr McGinness used the word "half-caste": "I did hear that word half-caste. Ms Hollingworth, that is quite clear, I heard him say half-caste. You spoke no English, Mrs Cubillo, whatsoever, you accept that? --- I spoke no English, but he did make reference to … You were 3 or 4 years old at the time of this incident? --- I was old enough to know and hear and see during that time. And the only word you can remember from this entire incident, two words rather, is that he said half-caste? --- That's right. Is that your evidence? --- That is right. Even though as far as you know nobody had ever – the concept of half-caste was unknown to you until some years later after two further moves when you were at Phillip Creek? --- But I will remember those words he said to my grandmother. Well, I put it to you that you are reconstructing when you say those words? - I am not reconstructing, I am giving you the version and the truth of what happened on that day." However, Mrs Cubillo's insistence was not supported by her examining psychiatrist, Dr Gibney. He was asked in cross-examination: "What would you say, Doctor, from your experience, of the likelihood of a child of three or four years old recalling what someone said in a language different to that which they held?" Doctor Gibney replied: "I think it would be unlikely." 403 Mrs Cubillo said that she knew the names of the two men who had taken her from Banka Banka Station because her grandmother had told her. As her grandmother died in the 1940s, sometime before the children were taken to the Retta Dixon Home, this meant, as Mrs Cubillo agreed, that she had known the names of these two men for the last fifty years or more. In fact she volunteered: "Everybody in the community knew who these people were." But, in her further and better particulars of her statement of claim that were filed in February 1998, Mrs Cubillo merely pleaded that she was taken by Mr Barney McGinness "and another man". And elsewhere, one of her answers referred to an "unknown white man" as the person "who assisted Mr McGinness" in taking her from Banka Banka. On the other hand, in the same set of particulars, in answer to a request to identify "every person under whose care and control [she] was kept" Mrs Cubillo named "Mr W Harney" as one of the persons at the Six Mile Depot. Mrs Cubillo had a recollection in February 1998 of Mr Harney as a person at the Six Mile Depot but not, apparently, as one of the two men who took her from her grandmother. It was put to Mrs Cubillo that she had only recently learnt that Mr Harney was the second man, but she was adamant: "Ms Hollingworth, I knew it was Mr Harney because Mr Harney was around Phillip Creek and Seven Mile and Six Mile." 404 On 7 April 1999, Mrs Cubillo filed an amended set of further and better particulars. This document perpetuated her earlier references to Mr Harney. He was named as a patrol officer at the Six Mile Depot, but it was merely "another man" who, with Barney McGinness, had removed her from Banka Banka Station. However, later, in a document entitled "Status of Amended Further and Better Particulars of Amended Statement of Claim" that was filed on 29 April 1999 there was an entry: "Eventually the applicant was taken by Mr Barney McGinness and another man who she believes was Mr Bill Harney." The words "who she believes was Mr Bill Harney" were underlined, indicating that they were in the nature of an amendment or an addition. 405 I cannot accept that Mrs Cubillo has known for the last fifty years or more that Mr Bill Harney was one of the two men who removed her from Banka Banka. Either she has only recently acquired this knowledge or, as is more likely the case, she may have once known his name but forgot it until somehow she was reminded of it as late as April 1999. Either way, it was not correct for her to insist – as she did – that she had, at all times, known and remembered that it was Mr Harney who was one of the men who had taken her from her grandmother at Banka Banka Station. I do not criticise Mrs Cubillo for forgetting Mr Harney or his name; she would have been a small child if she was taken away as she said, and it happened over fifty years ago. There were other mistakes in some of the factual assertions in her pleadings. For example neither Mr McGinness nor Mr Steven O'Donohue were involved in her removal from Phillip Creek as initially alleged. I do not consider that there is anything sinister in those errors – in fact they were later corrected in a supplementary document. Rather, I see them as tangible examples of the difficulties that all witnesses in this trial have faced in trying to remember the detail of events that occurred so long ago. My criticism is reserved for her unnecessarily and incorrectly insisting that she had always known that it was Mr Harney. Perhaps the events, as she described them, did occur and perhaps her grandmother later told her of them; perhaps, over the years, what Mrs Cubillo remembers has become mixed with what she had been told. It is not possible to come to any conclusion with the degree of satisfaction that should accompany an important finding of fact. I am satisfied that Mrs Cubillo has engaged in an exercise of reconstruction. Perhaps she did it subconsciously. However, there are too many contradictions in her evidence to accept her description as accurate. Perhaps patrol officers took Mrs Cubillo, as a small child, from the care of her grandmother at Banka Banka Station and removed her to the Seven Mile Depot, but I do not think that it is possible to make any specific findings on the subject. 406 If she left Banka Banka with Messrs Harney and McGinness, I cannot say why that should have happened nor do I know what might have been said to her grandmother. Indeed whether her grandmother approved of her going is a matter upon which there is no evidence. Perhaps she was taken against the wishes of her grandmother – that cannot be established because her grandmother is dead. Perhaps there was some other explanation – but that cannot be established because Messrs Harney and McGinness are dead and neither side has been able to adduce any documentary material that is relevant to the event. It is significant that, having fought to have the evidence admitted, the final submissions that were made on behalf of Mrs Cubillo were silent about her removal from Banka Banka. 407 Exhibit A74:A7 is an extract from "Our Aim", the newsletter that was published by the Aborigines Inland Mission. It was dated 18 January 1943. It referred to a letter that had been received by the Mission from Mrs Arnold Long dated 22 December 1942. The article read in part: "In a recent letter from Tennant Creek, Mrs Arnold Long tells of the removal of the Natives to a place known at present as the Six-mile. Dependents of those working for the military will be rationed by them. Mr. and Mrs. Long have now moved the bulk of their things to this new site. Two of the men have built them a good bough shed, and four women have carried the material for the thatched roof and bushes for the walls, while several of the boys helped in other ways." 408 This would suggest that the move to Six Mile Creek would have taken place in late 1942 at which time Lorna would have only been four years of age. It also means that Lorna would have spent about two years and eight months from (say) January 1943 until September 1945 at Six Mile Creek. It is not known, however, when she left Banka Banka or how long she stayed at Seven Mile Creek before the ration depot was moved to the Six Mile. The letter from Mrs Long was also of interest because it showed the primitive conditions under which the missionaries were living. It would be safe to assume that the conditions under which the Aboriginal people were living would have been no better. 409 Mrs Cubillo said that she remembered that Mr Long, a European, was at the depot at Seven Mile Creek; she also remembered that her grandmother arrived a few days after her and stayed with her at Seven Mile Creek and, later, at Six Mile Creek. She said that Maisie visited her from time to time but that Maisie did not stay as, according to Mrs Cubillo, she continued to work at Banka Banka. As has already been mentioned, her witness, Kathleen Napanangka contradicted that evidence; she claimed that at that time Maisie was working at the depot at Seven Mile Creek as a cook. Mrs Cubillo gave evidence that at the depot at Six Mile Creek she was surrounded by her family. On the other hand, it was the recollection of Jimmy Anderson, who gave evidence on behalf of Mrs Cubillo, that the half-caste children (including himself and Mrs Cubillo) lived separately from their families in a dormitory at the depot. Annie Napurrula, another witness for Mrs Cubillo, had a similar recollection and said that the bigger children went to school at Six Mile. It could be, however, that the separate sleeping arrangements applied only to the school going children whereas the younger children (and Lorna would have been one of those) lived with their families. Nothing of importance turns on this particular point because Mrs Cubillo has not made any claim against the Commonwealth that its officers (or, indeed, the missionaries), detained her at either Six Mile Creek or Seven Mile Creek. There was no evidence that would suggest that any form of restraint was imposed on the Aboriginal persons who were living at these depots. Mrs Cubillo said in her evidence that the Aboriginal people were free to come and go from the ration depots as they wished. Her evidence does, however, serve as an example of the difficulties that have confronted the Commonwealth in the preparation of its defence. The Phillip Creek Native Settlement 410 It was an agreed fact that patrol officers Bill Harney and Gordon Sweeney from the Native Affairs Branch, together with Barney McGinness, were involved in the relocation of the ration depot from Six Mile Creek to the Phillip Creek Settlement. The Commonwealth acknowledged that it was the Northern Territory Administration that provided the land on which the Phillip Creek Native Settlement was located; it supplied all the building materials that were needed in the construction of the Settlement. It also provided rations for the Aboriginal people living there. The strength of the involvement of the Native Affairs Branch in the lives of the Aboriginal community at Phillip Creek can be gauged by the contents of an article that was written by Mr Ivor Thomas, the missionary in charge of the Settlement, and published in "Our Aim" on 17 September 1945. After writing that the move to Phillip Creek occurred on 17 August, he proceeded to explain how and why the move was made. Referring to the water shortage at Six Mile, he wrote: "First we notified the Native Affairs Branch of our water shortage, then we 'happened' to meet one of the Acting Directors in town, and with him came to inspect the bore on this stock route reserve; then the Administrator of the Northern Territory 'happened' along and agreed to the move, and within a few days had the officers of the Native Affairs Branch handling the matter of the transferring of our two hundred people and ourselves these 26 miles, and now we are here where there are three big water-holes, and a bore on which to rely when these holes dry up." 411 Patrol officer Gordon Sweeney submitted a report dated 18 September 1945 relating to the move from the depot at Six Mile Creek to Phillip Creek and the establishment of a Settlement at Phillip Creek. According to this report, the relocation of the ration depot involved both the Aborigines Inland Mission and personnel from the Native Affairs Branch. The three personnel from Native Affairs were Messrs Bill Harney, Barney McGinness and Gordon Sweeney, all of whom are dead and the four missionaries from the mission were Messrs Ivor Thomas, Kenneth Colley, Jim Davy and Arnold Long. All those men are dead. 412 In his report for 1945-1946, the Administrator described the arrangements at Phillip Creek, saying of the Aborigines Inland Mission that "it has provided staff who have controlled departmental settlements". In the publication of "Our Aim" for 17 November 1947, an unidentified author wrote that at Phillip Creek "the distribution of supplies to the people on behalf of the Government is still being carried on by our Missionaries as a voluntary service on our part". Writing in April 1948, Mr Fred Gubbins described the arrangements at Phillip Creek as follows: "The settlement is superintended by Mr Ivor Thomas of the Aboriginal Inland Mission on behalf of the Department. He receives no payment for his services but is supplied with basic food requirements in the way of flour, tea and sugar, etc. (these supplies are drawn from the bulk issues made to the depot). The Aboriginal (sic) Inland Mission have always run the Tennant Creek Settlement on behalf of this Branch, firstly Mr Long at the six mile depot and now Mr Thomas at Phillips Creek." Shortly afterwards, the Administrator described the establishment and maintenance of the Phillip Creek Settlement by the Native Affairs Branch, and had the following to say about the staffing: "The settlement is under the control of Mr Ivor Thomas of the Aborigines Inland Mission who acts in an honorary capacity. He is assisted by a school teacher. Recommendation has been made for the appointment of a permanent superintendent. Mr Thomas has given excellent service and volunteered for the task when no other person was available." Mr Thomas' late wife also lived with him at the Settlement. In addition to this literature, it was an agreed fact that officers of the Native Affairs Branch inspected the Phillip Creek Settlement from time to time. The mission that was conducted by the Aborigines Inland Mission at the Settlement was under the control of Mr and Mrs Thomas. Mr Colley, a schoolteacher, who also lived there, conducted a school for the Aboriginal and part Aboriginal children and Lorna attended that school while she was at Phillip Creek. There was evidence that the school existed until around about 1951 when both the Settlement and the school were taken over by the Government. Once at Phillip Creek, Lorna and the other part Aboriginal children of school going age were placed in dormitories that had been erected on the site. At Phillip Creek the families, including the younger children, lived on the outskirts of the Settlement in humpies or, as Mrs Cubillo described it, "outside the fence". However, the young Lorna was able to maintain daily contact with her grandmother until she died, not long after the move to Phillip Creek. Mrs Cubillo said that Maisie continued to visit her from Banka Banka but that evidence was also in conflict with the evidence of Kathleen Napanangka who said that Maisie did not live at Banka Banka until after Lorna had gone off to school. What is more, it was Kathleen's evidence that Alice, her grandmother and Lorna's grandmother, had died prior to Kathleen's wedding in 1940. If that is the case, it means that Mrs Cubillo was wrong when she said in her evidence that her grandmother cared for her at Phillip Creek. 413 There was, at the least, a deep financial involvement by the Native Affairs Branch in the operations of the Phillip Creek Settlement. For example, there was the letter of 24 September 1946 from Mr VJ White to the Acting Director of the Native Affairs Branch. At that time Mr White was a clerk in the Branch; he headed his letter: "Beef for Phillip Creek Native Settlement" and proceeded to discuss the quantity of beef that should be purchased, the source of purchase and the price to be paid. However, the Settlement was run and staffed by the missionaries from the Aborigines Inland Mission from 1945 until the early 1950s. Throughout the time that Lorna Nelson Napanangka was at Phillip Creek, the Superintendent was the missionary, Mr Ivor Thomas. There is evidence that various patrol officers visited or passed through the Settlement from time to time but that evidence does not point to them participating in the day to day management of the Settlement; the physical presence of Mr Thomas and his title of "Superintendent" leads to the inference that he was responsible for the day to day management of the Settlement. Based in my earlier findings, there was the potential for the Native Affairs Branch to exert control over the management of the Settlement, but there was no evidence that it did so. 414 Mr Jimmy Anderson said in evidence that whilst he was living at Phillip Creek, his mother, his brothers and sisters, together with some aunties and uncles, were also living there. He did not speak English at that time; he spoke Warumungu and Warlpiri. He said that he, along with the other children, slept in a big dormitory but his relatives were, as he described it, "scattered around – around buildings, more or less out in the scrub". Mr Anderson said that whilst he was at Phillip Creek, even though he and the other children slept in the dormitory, he was able to join up with his family and his mother during the day. He could also remember that there was a school at Phillip Creek; he could remember that the schoolteacher was a Mr Colley and he recognised him in a photograph; but he could not remember whether he (Mr Anderson) attended school at Phillip Creek or not. 415 Mrs Cubillo said, during the course of her evidence in chief, that Maisie would visit her by getting a ride on the meat truck that came from Banka Banka Station to the Phillip Creek Settlement. When it was pointed out in cross-examination that the documentary evidence showed that Banka Banka only provided meat to Phillip Creek between May and September 1946, Mrs Cubillo said that Maisie had regularly walked from Banka Banka to see her. It was agreed between the parties that the distance between Banka Banka and Phillip Creek is approximately forty miles, that is, about sixty-five kilometres. Mrs Cubillo was cross-examined about the length of time it would have taken Maisie to walk from Banka Banka to Phillip Creek and then back to Banka Banka. The cross-examiner commenced by putting the proposition that the distance was forty miles. Mrs Cubillo replied that she did not know the distance between the two places. There then followed a frustrating series of questions and answers designed to extract from Mrs Cubillo a concession that it would have taken a considerable period of time to walk that distance. Mrs Cubillo was alert to the fact that it would not have been possible for Maisie to have made a regular habit of walking such extended distances. She sought to avoid the issue with answers such as: "My people walked all their lives and I walked with them." 416 Kathleen Napanangka's evidence on Maisie's whereabouts was as follows: "Maisie was your mother? --- Yes. Was she at Banka Banka? --- Yes. For how long was she at Banka Banka? --- She at Phillip Creek. She was looking for a job at that time, then she came to Banka Banka. Was that before she'd gone to Banka Banka that she was at Phillip Creek? --- Yes, that was before she came to Banka Banka. So she went from Phillip Creek to Banka Banka? --- Yes. And do you recall when that was; what year that was? --- After he'd been gone. Lorna had to go off to school, you know? Yes, Lorna had to go off to school? --- Yes, and my mother been walk away, sorry way." The expression "sorry way" repeated by Kathleen more than once, was, I find, indicative of the hurt and sorrow that Maisie suffered when Lorna was taken away. 417 The confusion about Maisie's whereabouts was compounded by a possible contradiction in Kathleen's evidence. Kathleen said that Maisie had worked at the Old Telegraph Station as a cook and had continued on there as a cook after Kathleen went to Banka Banka to marry. She was then asked when did she see Maisie at Banka Banka: "Right. Now, when you left Telegraph to go to Banka Banka did Maisie go with you …? --- No. … or did she stay behind? --- Stopping at Telegraph Station. She stayed behind at the Telegraph Station. Did you see her at Banka Banka after you went to Banka Banka? --- Yes, afterwards. How long afterwards? --- In the war time Lorna been gone to school. After Lorna." 418 There was no reference to Maisie working at Phillip Creek in that answer; rather, one could get the impression that Maisie went straight from the Old Telegraph Station to Banka Banka at a point of time after Lorna had been taken from Phillip Creek. I am inclined to the view that the nature of the questions did not invite a reference to Phillip Creek and that that is the reason why Kathleen gave the answers that she did. Even though she gave her evidence through an interpreter, it was difficult at times to comprehend her answers and there were times when there were doubts about her comprehension of some of the questions. The difficulties that the Courts faced when taking the evidence of some Aboriginal people were addressed recently by Lee J in Ward v Western Australia (1998) 159 ALR 483 at 497 where his Honour said: "Evidence was usually given in English, but most often it was in broken form, using words of the Miriuwung or Gajerrong languages for names of people, places, objects, animals and for description of cultural matters. The language amalgam has been described as 'Kimberley Kriol' by linguists and anthropologists. Appropriate spellings of Aboriginal words used in evidence were compiled in an agreed orthography for use in the transcript of proceedings. The difficulties courts face in receiving and dealing with evidence of Aboriginal witnesses is well known, particularly when English is at best a second, or lesser, language and the grasp of it is limited. A transcript cannot convey nuances of gesture, movement or expression that bear upon an understanding of the evidence received in such circumstances. Similarly, a transcript which presents as a seamless continuum of questions and answers may suggest more comprehension of the process by a witness than the court observes. It was apparent that for a number of witnesses the adversarial system of trial, and a limited ability to express themselves fluently in English, hindered articulation of their evidence. On some occasions it appeared that restricting oral evidence to responses to questions put by counsel left part of the story untold and where the questions of counsel relied on unstated or latent assumptions the full import of the questions was not understood by some witnesses and the responses were not directed to issues raised indirectly." Those remarks were quoted with approval by Beaumont and von Doussa JJ in the Full Court when the matter went on appeal: State of Western Australia v Ward (2000) 170 ALR 159. Their Honours added at 216-7: "His Honour went on to observe that it was apparent to him that for a number of witnesses the adversarial system of trial, and their limited ability to express themselves fluently in English, hindered articulation of their evidence. It is apparent from reading the transcript that on many occasions an Aboriginal witness, when answering questions, sought and obtained assistance from other Aboriginal people present at the time, and often the answers recorded indicate that the witness's response was accompanied by gesture pointing to a feature of the landscape. A reading of the transcript cannot meaningfully convey the response of the witness." 419 On balance it seems to me that Kathleen intended to say that Maisie stayed at the Old Telegraph Station. I say that because her answers to successive questions suggested that was the case. She said that she visited Maisie at the Old Telegraph Station and she said that she also saw Lorna there. But Kathleen said that she did not visit the depot at Six Mile Creek or the Phillip Creek Settlement. 420 Everything hinges on four aspects of Kathleen's evidence. Did she marry in 1940? Was her grandmother dead at the time of her marriage? Were Maisie and Lorna living at the depot at Seven Mile Creek when Kathleen moved to Banka Banka for her marriage? Was Maisie living at Phillip Creek when the children were removed? If each of those questions is answered affirmatively, it would mean, in all probability, that the horseback incident never occurred and that it was Maisie and not the grandmother who cared for Lorna at Phillip Creek. Although I fall short of making formal findings of fact I lean in favour of the memory of Kathleen, as a fifteen year old bride. I cannot make findings of fact in support of Mrs Cubillo's assertions. 421 Furthermore, the monthly return for April 1946 that was compiled by the Aborigines Inland Mission shows Lorna as present at Phillip Creek and lists her name underneath a half-caste woman called Maisie. Added to that, Eileen Napanangka, talking of the day that the children were taken away, said that she and her mother (ie Maisie) locked themselves away when the truck departed. I am satisfied that Mrs Cubillo has become confused over the years about the whereabouts of Maisie on that fateful day. The documentary records, supported by the evidence of Kathleen and Eileen Napanangka contradict Mrs Cubillo's evidence. I find that Maisie was not working at Banka Banka when the children were taken away from Phillip Creek; she was then living at Phillip Creek. 422 At Phillip Creek, there was a separate dormitory for the Aboriginal girls and a separate dormitory for the Aboriginal boys. A third dormitory housed both the part Aboriginal boys and the part Aboriginal girls. Mrs Cubillo said "that was the very first time I realised that we were separated from our full blood relatives". That statement does not fit easily with her claim that Mr McGinness called her a "half-caste" at Banka Banka Station. 423 Mrs Cubillo appeared to have a detailed memory of the events that occurred on the day that she and other part Aboriginal children were taken away from the Phillip Creek Settlement. She said that a green Bedford truck arrived one morning; it was driven by the witness, Mr Les Penhall, who was then a cadet patrol officer. Mrs Cubillo also said that she saw Miss Amelia Shankelton for the first time that same morning. Mrs Cubillo did not know what was happening; at one stage she thought the children might be going on a picnic. Her evidence continued as follows: "You mentioned babies on the truck, how did the babies come to get on the truck? --- Ms Shankelton prompted the mothers to put the children on the truck and there was a bit of tug-of-war going on between my Auntie Rose and Ms Shankelton with a baby in her arm which she was feeding, breast-feeding. Sorry, I'll have to ask you to try and keep your voice up, Mrs Cubillo. I think you said there was a bit of a tussle going on … ? --- Yes. … between Ms Shankelton and your Auntie Rose? --- That's right. Where were you when you observed that tussle? --- I was already on the truck. What was your Auntie Rose doing with Ms Shankelton, what was happening? --- They couldn't communicate because my auntie only spoke her language and Ms Shankelton was trying to ask her to hand the baby over but she was resisting and later on she called me by name, my Aboriginal name Napanangka. What did she say to you when she called you? --- She just said, 'Napanangka, take this baby and look after it.' And she threw herself on the ground. She threw herself on the ground? --- Yes. Who handed the baby to you, Mrs Cubillo? --- My Auntie Rose. How old was the baby, do you know? --- This baby had no teeth, wasn't crawling and I believe she was around – just my belief that she could possibly have been around about 7 months old. Were there other people, other Aboriginal people around the truck when this tussle was going on? --- Yes, there were many. By this time there was a commotion. There was a lot of people crying, people were hitting themselves with hunting sticks and blood was pouring down their faces. What about on the truck? --- We were crying and there was a lot of confusion. What did you think when this commotion was taking place and after a baby had been given to you by your aunt what did you think was going to happen to you? --- I was scared. I wasn't even sure if I'd be killed. I didn't know what was happening. I was in a state of confusion and so were the other children. What was the name of the baby given to you, Mrs Cubillo? ----The baby's name was Gwen." 424 Mr Creed Lovegrove, during the course of his evidence, said that death would cause Aboriginal women to wail and cry; it would cause them to hit their heads with hunting sticks until they bled. He agreed in cross-examination that these actions were signs of enormous distress and extreme sorrow. However, he would not agree that "these [were] signs as clear evidence of non-consent" in respect of the removal of the children. But if the removal of the children from Phillip Creek was accompanied by the scenes that Mrs Cubillo and others portrayed in their evidence, Mr Lovegrove was prepared to agree that such would have been a gross violation of human rights. The inner conflict, with which Mr Lovegrove was struggling, is apparent from the following passage in his evidence during his cross-examination: it also highlights how attitudes can change and how honest and genuine Mr Lovegrove was in giving his evidence: "You would've been very uncomfortable because that type of removal, as you have agreed, would outrage the feelings of an average or neutral observer? --- I suppose that's the case, yes. I mean, if I had been instructed to do a certain thing, I might've done it, even though it was disturbing to me. If you'd been instructed to do it? --- Mm mm. I - I never had to take that test. When you say you never had to take the test, what I suggest to you, Mr Lovegrove, is as a consequence of the way in which you had been brought up, and your knowledge of Aboriginal people, that you would not have been a party to such a removal? --- I'm not too sure. I mean, I - through my eyes of today, it is offensive to me. Whereas, as a young cadet patrol officer, a senior officer came along to me and said, 'This is what you have to do', I don't know whether at that stage I would've been - had enough - excuse the expression - guts to say, 'No, I won't do it'. I don't know." In re-examination, Mr Meagher QC put to Mr Lovegrove a softer version of the events at Phillip Creek, adding in particular that Miss Shankelton had obtained the parents' consent. In response, Mr Lovegrove said in those circumstances, wailing and crying would be "because the children were leaving their loved ones". 425 Mrs Cubillo named each of the sixteen children who were taken from Phillip Creek and under cross-examination told of the present whereabouts of each of them. Five are now dead; two of them, Jimmy Anderson and Willy Lane gave evidence on her behalf. Three were living interstate. Of the remaining five, two, who were living in Tennant Creek, were not called as witnesses and no explanation was offered for their absence. It would have been of value to have heard their evidence about the move from Phillip Creek and of their experiences at and their impressions of the Retta Dixon Home and its staff during the time that they and Mrs Cubillo were residents at the Home. Mrs Cubillo agreed in cross-examination that Ms Barbara Cummings and another of her friends, Ms Valerie Day, both former residents of the Retta Dixon Home at the same time as Mrs Cubillo (although each of them was younger) had been present from time to time during the Court hearing in Darwin. It would have been of value to have learnt of their memories of how they were treated when they were living at the Retta Dixon Home but neither gave evidence. 426 Mr Jimmy Anderson, said that he believed his date of birth to be 6 May 1939 although, as he said, he was given that date when he was an inmate of the Retta Dixon Home. He said that his mother and Mrs Cubillo's mother were sisters and although, in conventional European terms, that would mean that Mr Anderson and Mrs Cubillo were first cousins, he said that in Aboriginal law they are classed as brother and sister. Mr Anderson, who did not know the identity of his father, said that he was born at Seven Mile Creek and that, at some stage of his life, he also lived at Banka Banka Station. From Banka Banka Station he was transferred to Six Mile Creek. Asked who had transferred him he replied "it was Welfare". He said that he thought that the name of the officer from Welfare who transferred him was a Mr Sweeney. 427 Mr Anderson said that it was his understanding, from what his mother had told him, that it was Government policy that caused the move to Phillip Creek. It was put to him during cross-examination that it was because of lack of water and because of the war but he answered: "No, the government policy was they – they rounded up all the tribe and put them in one place and then they took them to Phillip Creek." 428 Like Mrs Cubillo, Mr Anderson was also taken with the other children from Phillip Creek to the Retta Dixon Home in Darwin. He said that he could recall Mr Sweeney at Phillip Creek and also another man to whom he referred as "old Bill Harney". However, in cross-examination, Mr Anderson volunteered that Mr Penhall was the driver of the truck and that Miss Shankelton sat in the front of the truck. Other evidence in the trial has satisfied me that Mr Anderson's memory has let him down. No other witness suggested that Mr Sweeney and Mr Harney were present at Phillip Creek on the day when Miss Shankelton and Mr Penhall took the children away. 429 According to Mr Anderson, about fifteen or sixteen children were loaded onto the truck; he said that their ages ranged from nine years downwards. His recollection was that there was an Aboriginal man travelling with them on the back of the truck. He said that the youngest child was only a baby and he remembered her name as Gwennie Rose; that statement supported Mrs Cubillo's evidence. 430 Mr Anderson said that he did not know whether Miss Shankelton had obtained his mother's permission for him to leave Phillip Creek. He added, however, that his mother could not speak English and "she wouldn't have understood it anyway". He confirmed Mrs Cubillo's evidence that the Aboriginal people were upset, describing some of them as "screaming and crying". 431 At first, Mr Anderson thought that the children were going to a swimming hole which was past Banka Banka Station but the Aboriginal man who was accompanying them on the back of the truck told them that: "You blokes aren't coming back. You're going to Darwin." It was put to Mr Anderson in cross-examination that when he and the other children travelled from Phillip Creek to Darwin there were two Aboriginal women on the back of the truck but Mr Anderson said that it was his recollection that there was only one old man – there were no Aboriginal women. 432 Mr William (Willy) Lane said that he was born at the Six Mile depot but that, at an early stage of his life, he moved, with his mother and other members of his community, to Phillip Creek. He said that he believed that he was born in either 1939 or 1942 but that he uses the date 7 December 1942 as his birth date. He has no knowledge of his father save, as I infer, that he was European and that the name Bert Lane appears as "Father" in his birth certificate. At Phillip Creek he lived with his mother, brothers and sisters and not in a dormitory. That suggests that he was one of the younger children and supports the proposition that he was, more likely than not, born in 1942, four years after the birth of Lorna Nelson. His mother, who looked after the goats at the Settlement, could not speak English, nor could he. 433 His recollection was that Mr Thomas, who he erroneously thought to be a government official, was the Superintendent at Phillip Creek. He also recalled that Mr Colley was at the Settlement, but he could not remember in what capacity: nor could he remember whether there was a school at Phillip Creek. Asked what he remembered of the day that he left Phillip Creek, Mr Lane said that the children "were all dressed up with new clothing", their photos were taken and they were promised a picnic. 434 He identified Miss Shankelton as the person who took the children's photograph and Les Penhall as the person who drove the truck. He said that he did not see either of them speak to his mother. He said that he recalled driving away from Phillip Creek and when asked to describe what he recalled he said: "Seeing our mother crying as we were leaving." Phillip Creek to the Retta Dixon Home 435 Exhibit A20 comprised three records from the files of the Aborigines Inland Mission showing that on 26 July 1947 the three girls named in those records were admitted to the Retta Dixon Home. Mrs Cubillo recognised each girl as having travelled with her from Phillip Creek to the Retta Dixon Home. Although Mrs Cubillo could not remember the date of her admission to the Home, and although her admission record was not located, I find, on the basis of the records in exhibit A20 and Mrs Cubillo's identification of the three girls, that Mrs Cubillo was also admitted to Retta Dixon Home on 26 July 1947. 436 The third of those girls mentioned in exhibit A20 was named "Rose, Gwen" and against the entry "Parents" appeared the word "Rosie". This suggested therefore, that this third girl was the baby, Gwen, to whom Mrs Cubillo had referred in her evidence. But there was a further entry that purported to state that the child Gwen was born at Tennant Creek on 23 April 1945. Once again, I cannot accept the literal accuracy of this birth date: at the most it would have been an educated guess by some person who was responsible for admitting the children to the Retta Dixon Home. But it purported to relate to a female child aged two years and three months; that was not consistent with a baby who, according to Mrs Cubillo's memory, was only about seven months – one who was so young that Lorna, as a child of nine, had to nurse and care for her on the trip to Darwin. According to Mrs Cubillo, the child was so young that it had not yet teethed and had to be sustained by her dribbling water from her mouth into the baby's mouth. Exhibit R53 was a document entitled "Native Settlement Tennant Creek Monthly Returns". It was dated 20 April 1946 and it recorded a female child by the name of Gwen being present at the Settlement. If this child and the baby on the truck were one and the same person, it meant that in July 1947, when the children left Phillip Creek, fifteen months had elapsed since Gwen was recorded on the monthly return. Mrs Cubillo did not dispute the contents of the document or suggest that there were two babies of the same name. There is quite a difference between a seven-month-old baby and one who is fifteen months or more. I feel that the episode of caring for Gwen during the journey has been magnified in Mrs Cubillo's memory over the years. I accept that she cared for a small child during the journey and I accept that there were scenes of extreme distress and emotion when the children left, but I fall short of accepting that the baby was only seven months old and was still being breastfed. Either the child to whom Mrs Cubillo referred was a different person to the one whose details were recorded in exhibit A20 but – bearing in mind the same Christian name and the name "Rosie" as the mother of each child – that is unlikely, or, as was more likely the case, the drama of looking after the young child had escalated in Mrs Cubillo's memory over the years and, in fact, the child was much older than Mrs Cubillo remembered. 437 Exhibit A74:A28 was a photocopy of an article dated 17 September 1947 from the newsletter "Our Aim"; it was attributed to Miss Shankelton. It read in part: "Arrangements having been made by the Native Affairs Branch for the transfer of half-caste children at Phillip Creek to our Home in Darwin and for me to accompany them back. I travelled by plane on 23rd July to Tennant Creek where our missionary, Mr Thomas, met me, conveyed me to Phillip Creek. It was a privilege to be able to meet the mothers and friends of the children and to tell them something of the Home and of the opportunities for their children and of our intention of keeping the children in touch with their mothers. Although they were pleased to have their children cared for and given full educational opportunities, the parting was hard." 438 The missionaries in Darwin knew, at least a week before the movement of the Phillip Creek children, that it was to occur. In an article in "Our Aim" dated 17 July 1947, Ms Dinham had written: "Seventeen more children at Tennant Creek are waiting to enter the Home, but we feel we cannot take them until our staff is added to, which we trust will be so before very long." 439 Mrs Cubillo had said in her evidence that Peter Hansen, a half-caste boy, had jumped off the truck and escaped into the bush. If she were correct, he would have been the seventeenth child. Her assertion was contradicted, however, by Mr Penhall. He said that he prepared a list of the names of all of the children on the truck and that the name Peter Hansen did not appear; he thought that he prepared his list as the children were being loaded onto the truck, and if this was correct, one would have expected the name of Peter Hansen to have appeared on it. He said that his list was based on information given to him by Miss Shankelton. The penultimate name on his list was "Gwen" and her age was said to be two years. Three of the children were said to be that age but none was any younger. Jimmy Anderson supported Lorna's claim however. He said that "one young boy jumped off the truck" and he said that he found out years later that it was "Peter Hansell (sic)". The article by Ms Dinham in "Our Aim" which referred to seventeen children also supported Mrs Cubillo. None of the other witnesses who were called on Mrs Cubillo's behalf said anything about a boy jumping off the truck and Mrs Cubillo neither called Mr Hansen to give evidence nor provided any explanation as to why he was not called to support her allegations. Whether Peter Hansen did, or did not jump off of the truck is not a matter of importance. The episode is only worthy of mention because it is another example of how the memories of witnesses have become clouded and confused as a result of the effluxion of time. 440 There was no acceptable evidence, one way or the other, that would justify a finding that Aboriginal families were consulted about their children being taken from Phillip Creek to the Retta Dixon Home: nor was there any direct evidence that would support a finding that they were not consulted. Mrs Cubillo and the other Phillip Creek children were admitted to the Retta Dixon Home on 26 July 1947, and, as there can be no doubt that the trip from Phillip Creek to Darwin must have taken up at least one, if not two, overnight stops, Miss Shankelton's arrival date of 23 July at the Phillip Creek Settlement, would indicate that she had little time to talk to the families of sixteen or seventeen children, explaining to them her ideas about the benefits that their children might enjoy by being taken from them. 441 Even though Mr Penhall was a person of some authority as a cadet patrol officer, his evidence, which I accept, was that he had no involvement in the removal of the children other than as the driver of the truck. He was not instructed to confer with the Aboriginal people and he did not discuss the children's removal with them. Although the evidence revealed the part that was played by Mr Penhall in the removal of the children, it did not disclose the extent of Miss Shankelton's involvement and it disclosed nothing about the part played by Mr Thomas, the missionary in charge of the Phillip Creek Settlement, or his wife, or Mr Colley, the school teacher. What little that is known about Miss Shankelton was limited to the contents of her article in the newsletter "Our Aim". When that article is read carefully, it would not prevent a conclusion that the children were taken against the wishes of their families. What then was the identity of the party who effectuated the removal of the children? Was it the Aborigines Inland Mission, assisted by the Native Affairs Branch making Mr Penhall and a truck available for transport? Or was it the Native Affairs Branch assisted by staff members of the Aborigines Inland Mission? Or was it a joint exercise of the Aborigines Inland Mission and the Native Affairs Branch? Before attempting to answer those questions, some consideration should be given to the personal circumstances of eight year old Lorna. Viewed through the eyes of the missionaries, there was the possibility that she would have been treated as an orphan. There was no evidence to suggest that her existence was known to the Native Affairs Branch. Her grandmother had died. Her father was a white man but it is reasonable to assume that the missionaries would have proceeded on the premise that he had abandoned her. If they knew her biological background, they would have known that her mother was dead. On the other hand, if they, like Lorna, thought that Maisie was her mother, was Maisie a resident at the Phillip Creek Settlement as I have found – or did she work at Banka Banka Station some forty miles from the Settlement. Mrs Cubillo said that Maisie used to visit her at the Settlement regularly and that, on occasions, she got a lift on the butcher's truck. If this were true, were those visits known to the missionaries? Did the missionaries know and understand the strong bond of the Aboriginal extended family? Or did they see a part Aboriginal eight year old girl with no one to care for her? These would have been legitimate inquiries but they cannot be made; all the missionaries are dead. 442 It was submitted on behalf of the Commonwealth that the length of time that Miss Shankelton spent at Phillip Creek was not critical to the question of whether or not the mothers consented to their children being taken away. I disagree. There was other evidence pointing to the practice of long discussions and lengthy periods of time being spent in the decision-making process in matters of importance to Aboriginal people. Obtaining the consent of the families of sixteen or seventeen children in a period of no more than twenty-four hours seems highly unlikely. This finding, which I acknowledge points to a non-consensual movement of the children, does create substantial prejudice to the Commonwealth because it is denied the opportunity of calling witnesses who might rebut such a finding. Miss Shankelton is dead, Mr Moy, the Director of Native Affairs of the day, is dead and so is Mr Thomas the Superintendent of the Phillip Creek Settlement at the time of the children's removal, his wife and Mr Colley, the school teacher. It is true that Mr Penhall has lived to give evidence, but his involvement in the matter was minimal; that was understandable, as he was a cadet patrol officer whose instructions were limited to acting as a transport officer. Over and above the absence of these crucial witnesses, was the total absence of any documentary records that dealt with the subject of the children's removal. Perhaps they existed and have since been lost or destroyed as a result of Cyclone Tracy or through some other unknown cause. Perhaps no such documents ever existed. Should that be the case, one might think that the Native Affairs Branch had no official involvement in the decision to remove the children. One would think that a Government Department that was involved specifically (as distinct from merely lending a truck and a driver) in the removal of sixteen part Aboriginal children from their families would have recorded such a decision in writing. 443 Of course, there was the possibility that Mr or Mrs Thomas or Mr Colley may have counselled the families prior to Miss Shankelton's arrival. But that is conjecture; there was no evidence that pointed to that having happened. This episode shows the difficulties that were faced by both the applicants and the Commonwealth. So much time has passed: so many witnesses are dead, that it is not possible to proceed with confidence. Whether or not Miss Shankelton's article is accepted as literally accurate, the following matters are of interest. First, she said that the arrangements were made "by" the Native Affairs Branch – not "by" the Aborigines Inland Mission with the consent or cooperation of the Branch. Secondly, the article referred to "the transfer of half-caste children"; no mention was made of full blood children. Thirdly, a fair reading would suggest that Miss Shankelton had no difficulties in communicating with the mothers and in obtaining their consents, but that would have been quite remarkable having regard to the unchallenged evidence that some, at least, of the mothers did not speak English and to other anecdotal evidence of the extensive periods of time during which patrol officers negotiated with mothers for the removal of their children. Fourthly, it would seem that the mothers were told of the mission's intention "of keeping the children in touch". In the case of Mrs Cubillo, at least, that intention did not come to fruition. Fifthly, although the opening sentence acknowledges that the Native Affairs Branch had made arrangements, other sections in the article had overtones of control by the Aborigines Inland Mission. First, there was the physical presence of Miss Shankelton; then there were the references in the article to "the Home", obviously meaning the Retta Dixon Home; and there was the implied promise that the missionaries – not the Native Affairs Branch – would keep the children in touch with their mothers. Finally, to say that "the parting was hard" is to understate grossly the sorrow and despair of that day. I do not believe that Miss Shankelton's language truly described the terrible pain that the children and their families suffered. 444 Asked to describe the impact on her when she left Phillip Creek on the truck Mrs Cubillo replied: "I'd been upset and confused and I'd find it hard to sleep at night. I'll – I'll never forget what happened to me on the day I – when I was removed." 445 I have no difficulty in accepting this passage from Mrs Cubillo's evidence. She was a young child – no more than eight years of age. Mrs Cubillo received great comfort from her extended family and the community at the Settlement. She was accepted in the community and felt part of it. No matter the circumstances of her leaving, whether it was or was not with the informed consent of those who cared for her, it would have been a sad and traumatic event: one that would leave a lasting impression on a young mind. Mrs Cubillo said that she has suffered in silence and continues to suffer. I believe her. 446 Nevertheless, despite the sadness of that event, I am of the opinion, as I have said, that Mrs Cubillo has, in some instances, engaged in a process of reconstruction, or, perhaps subconsciously, has allowed events to magnify over a period of time. Mrs Cubillo's insistence that Barney McGinness used the word "half-caste" after he had washed her leg in the creek at Banka Banka Station is an example. It was Mrs Cubillo's evidence that she knew no English until she went to Phillip Creek and that she did not know that there was any difference between part Aboriginal and Aboriginal people until she went to Phillip Creek. In those circumstances, based on her own evidence, it was not possible that a part Aboriginal girl, who was then no more than three or four years of age, would recognise and retain a memory of an English word that had no significance to her. Her evidence about the baby, Gwen Rose is another example. Then there was Mrs Cubillo's evidence that Miss Shankelton arrived and left Phillip Creek in the one day. Perhaps Mrs Cubillo, in giving this evidence, only intended to convey that she had not earlier seen Miss Shankelton at the mission. Yet Mrs Katona recorded in a document that she prepared that Mrs Cubillo had told her that Miss Shankelton had spent three weeks at Phillip Creek. 447 I return to consider the further evidence of Mr Penhall. In 1947 he was a young man of twenty-four; he was still only a cadet patrol officer and he was yet to attend his course of lectures at the Australian School of Pacific Administration. He said that he could recall being requested "to go to Phillip Creek and pick up some children and take them to Darwin", but he could not recall when he received his instructions or from whom the instructions were received. He was able to say, however, that he had not been given a list of the names of the children who were to be taken to Darwin and, as far as he could recall, he had no document that authorised him to compel the children to go with him. He believed that he was acting as the Superintendent at the Yuendumu Settlement at the time when he was instructed to go to the Phillip Creek Settlement. A piece of documentary evidence was located. It was a telegram from Fred Gubbins; it read: "Superintendent Yuendumu Will be yours Wednesday evening with truck and utility. Will return with Penhall Thursday. Gubbins." The telegram supported his belief that he was at Yuendumu at the time and it does not really matter whether he or someone else was then the Superintendent. Mr Penhall could only assume that his instructions to go to Phillip Creek would have come from his District Superintendent in Alice Springs. That, in turn, would suggest that someone in authority in Darwin would have issued an appropriate instruction. Again the paper trail is cold; the only documentary evidence that remotely touched upon the subject was an extract from Mr Penhall's diary which read as follows: "Fred Gubbins and I left Yuendumu in Mr McCoy's ute 10.30 am, 17.7.47 arrived Alice 5.10 pm." 448 Mr Penhall's recollection of his arrival at Phillip Creek was as follows: "When I got to Phillip Creek again I recall that there was a large gathering of Aboriginal people. There was a group of young children. The young children were cleanly dressed and were, as far as I was concerned, ready to be transported." 449 Mr Penhall said that Miss Shankelton was already at Phillip Creek when he arrived there. He spoke to her; he asked her if the children were ready to move. He said that she replied to the effect that: "… it had been discussed with the parents of the children. They had been told that they were going on a picnic for 2 or 3 days and then they would be going to live in a house and go to school in Darwin." 450 Mr Penhall was shown a copy of the extract from the AIM newsletter in which Miss Shankelton recorded her version of the movement of the children from Phillip Creek. He said that he had no knowledge of the arrangements that may have been made by the Native Affairs Branch with Miss Shankelton and to which reference was made in the newsletter. He agreed however, with its account of the events at Phillip Creek, saying "… that seems to be quite consistent with my recollections …". 451 Mr Penhall said that he did not speak to any of the adult Aboriginals. It was his understanding that Miss Shankelton had already done that. He said that no adult Aboriginal complained to him about the children leaving on the truck. He said that the only other white people at the Settlement when he arrived were the missionary Mr Thomas and his wife and children. 452 It was Mr Penhall's recollection that, in addition to Miss Shankelton and the children, there was an Aboriginal man and two Aboriginal women on the truck. He said that when he drove off "there was some wailing coming from the Aboriginal women" and he added that some of them ran after the truck "but they didn't run very far". He said that he regarded that as the normal reaction of Aboriginal people when someone was leaving their community. In my opinion, Mr Penhall's memory has blurred the misery of that occasion. Mr Penhall agreed that wailing in Aboriginal culture is a sign of great grief as is the striking of the head and the drawing of blood. However, Mr Penhall did not admit to seeing any blows to the head or blood at Phillip Creek. As he said "I was too busy driving the truck". In re‑examination, he went so far as to agree that he did not see any signs that suggested that the parents were opposed to the children going. Despite Mr Penhall's memories of that day, I remain satisfied that it was an occasion of intense grief. 453 Mr Penhall said that, subsequent to the removal of the children from Phillip Creek, he had occasion to visit Phillip Creek "on fairly frequent occasions". He said that the same Aboriginal people were there but that he received no complaints or inquiries about the children. He also said that, in later years, one of the children, Olive Kennedy (who is now dead) worked with him in the Aboriginal Liaison Unit of the Chief Minister's Department. He said that he saw Ms Kennedy on a daily basis and that she never complained about the fact of her removal from Phillip Creek. There is an incongruity in Mr Penhall's evidence on this subject, because, during the course of his cross-examination, he was referred to the book that Bill Harney had written, North of 23 [Degrees]: Ramblings in Northern Australia, Australasian Pub. Co, Sydney, 1946. In it, Mr Harney described the grief that Aboriginal people, and the mothers in particular, suffered when the children were taken from them. Mr Penhall did not substantially disagree with the passages that were read to him from the book: "A station homestead or a native camp where, amidst laughter, swimming or maybe out hunting with their father or mothers, these little half-castes would live among their own people, tended by all the tribe and particularly by a mother whoever watches over her child and tends to its wants. … Then one day that child will be taken away and great would be the wails which came from the camp. … Blood would flow from the head of the mother as she gashed it with stick or stone in anguish for her lost child. … Yet after a few days all is forgotten as most people forget. … Nevertheless, that mother still yearns for her lost one and carries little bits of its clothes around in memory of her child." 454 Mr Penhall was asked in cross-examination what explanation was given by or what consent was obtained by the Native Affairs Branch with respect to the removal of the Phillip Creek children. His answer was "I can't answer that in individual cases". He agreed that he was the only Native Affairs officer in the area at the time but he would not agree that it was for him to explain to the mothers what would happen. He said that the explanation was given by Miss Shankelton. Asked how he had satisfied himself about that, he said he relied on what Miss Shankelton had told him. But, as he later acknowledged, Miss Shankelton was not an employee of the Native Affairs Branch and she had no authority to speak for it or to act in its name; only Mr Penhall could have done that, assuming of course, that as a cadet patrol officer, he would have been given the necessary authority to act in the name of the Director of Native Affairs. There is the possibility that Miss Shankelton did explain to the mothers what was happening and, perhaps, her explanation was acceptable to them. But it still leaves open the question whether Mr Penhall had any instructions, or an obligation, to satisfy himself that the children were being removed with their mother's consent. There are, at least, two possibilities. The Director decided to remove the children with the cooperation of Miss Shankelton and her mission from Phillip Creek to Darwin; that is one possibility. The second possibility places the emphasis on the Aborigines Inland Mission. It decided that the children should be removed from its mission at Phillip Creek to Darwin and for that purpose it sought and obtained the assistance of the Native Affairs Branch in the form of Mr Penhall and his truck. 455 As a result of Mr Penhall's evidence and the implied acceptance by his cross-examiner that Miss Shankelton's article in the AIM newsletter correctly recorded dates, it would seem appropriate to make the following findings: first, the Phillip Creek Native Settlement was being managed by Mr Thomas, a missionary of the Aborigines Inland Mission; secondly, that mission operated the Retta Dixon Home of which Miss Shankelton was the Superintendent; thirdly, Miss Shankelton arrived at the Phillip Creek Native Settlement at some unspecified time on Wednesday 23 July 1947; fourthly, Miss Shankelton with the sixteen children set off in a truck driven by Mr Penhall from Phillip Creek at about 9.00 am on Thursday 24 July; fifthly, Mr Penhall was a cadet patrol officer employed in the Native Affairs Branch and he attended at Phillip Creek in that capacity pursuant to an instruction from one of his superior officers; sixthly, the party spent two nights on the track before reaching the Retta Dixon Home in Darwin on Saturday 26 July 1947. 456 Based on those findings, and there being no evidence that any other person in authority (such as Mr Thomas, the Superintendent of the Settlement) consulted with the mothers of the children, there was very little time available to Miss Shankelton to explain – even collectively – to the families of sixteen or seventeen children what was happening and to obtain informed consents for the children's removal. Even allowing for the fact that there would be sorrow and distress at a consensual parting of children from their mothers, Mr Penhall's evidence could still be consistent with the forced removals of the children; I say that because of the answers that he gave towards the end of his cross-examination: "What went on at Phillip Creek when those children were getting onto the truck, and when you drove the truck out of Phillip Creek, was a scene that you would not want to see again, isn't it? --- It's one that I wouldn't like to see again, no. Because it was a highly charged and emotional event? --- It was an emotional event. And just so we are under no misunderstanding in this court, you say to this court that you remember mothers running after the truck? --- They did." 457 I remain satisfied with Mr Penhall's evidence that he, a young man and still a cadet, relied on Miss Shankelton's advice that she had explained everything to the mothers; I realise that there is a possibility that Miss Shankelton may have believed that, by telling the mothers of the imminent departure of their children, their lack of complaint amounted to consent. I cannot, however, make a finding that any of the mothers gave their informed consents to the removal of their children. The Four Tennant Creek Women 458 The four elderly Aboriginal women from Tennant Creek had each known Lorna as a small child. Although there were elements of confusion and contradiction in parts of their evidence, I am satisfied that each of them gave her evidence with honesty and to the best of her ability. It was difficult to gauge their ages; they said that, as children, they did not understand the concept of age. However, I would think that it is safe to assume that each was in her late sixties or early seventies; they were all older than Mrs Cubillo. Mr Dreyfus, who led for the applicants during the hearing in Tennant Creek, explained that the preferred form of address of the first two witnesses – two sisters – was Napanangka. However, they were also known respectively as Kathleen and Eileen and it will be necessary for me to use those western Christian names to distinguish their evidence. The third and fourth witnesses shared the preferred name Napurrula, but for the same reason, I will have to refer to them as Bunny and Annie. 459 All four women said that they do women's ceremony for their country. In some cases that was singing: in other cases dancing. In addition, Annie Napurrula teaches bush medicine and bush tucker to the children in the Tennant Creek High School. The women claimed, and I accept, that they have knowledge of hunting, bush tucker and stories. They learnt those things as children from the old people. Asked whether Lorna knows "women's business for her country" Kathleen answered "I don't know whether she knows anything or not". I am satisfied that Mrs Cubillo does not possess any of those talents. In fact, everything about Mrs Cubillo points to her having a strong urban background. She dresses well, she speaks clearly and firmly, but above all, her work history and her determination to educate herself and to improve her station in life are all familiar characteristics of persons wishing to succeed in a western culture. 460 Kathleen and Eileen know the ceremonies for their country, which is in the vicinity of the Old Telegraph Station (that is, the depot at Seven Mile Creek). Kathleen said that her aunt taught her ceremony for her country and that she still does women's ceremony. She sings in the ceremony while other women dance. She said that she still looked after her country and has spoken for it in Land Claim Hearings. In addition to doing ceremony in accordance with Aboriginal tradition, Kathleen, with other women, also visits schools, teaching the children Aboriginal culture. As an acknowledgment of their positions in their community, both Kathleen and Eileen were members of a group of twelve or so Warumungu people who visited Melbourne in 1998 to perform ceremonial dancing on the occasion of the launching of the HMAS Warumungu. 461 The evidence of Kathleen Napanangka dealt with her life at the depot at Seven Mile Creek and at Banka Banka Station where she lived for almost thirty years; she said that she knew Lorna at the depot. On the other hand, Eileen, Kathleen's sister, knew Lorna at Phillip Creek, as did the sisters Bunny and Annie Napurrula. Eileen, Bunny and Annie were living at the Phillip Creek Settlement when Lorna was there. Each of them gave evidence about the occasion when Lorna and the other part Aboriginal children were taken away from the Settlement. 462 The mother of Kathleen and Eileen was Maisie but it was not established that they had a common father. During the course of her evidence, Kathleen agreed that she was about fifteen years of age in 1940; on that basis, she would now be about seventy-four or seventy-five. Kathleen would therefore be about twelve or thirteen years older than Lorna. No attempt was made to establish the age of Eileen but she also appeared to be much older than Lorna. Kathleen explained that Lorna was her tribal sister as they shared a common grandmother and their mothers were sisters, but it was not established that they shared a common grandfather, although they may have. Kathleen gave no evidence about her father other than to say that he passed away when she was young. Nothing else is known of him. 463 Kathleen, during the course of her evidence in chief, said that her mother Maisie, had three children – two girls and a boy – whose father was a white man. She said of them that they "were taken away". The subject of their removal was not developed in evidence and no reference was made to these children by Eileen. Kathleen acknowledged that, when she was living at Banka Banka, her children went to school at Alice Springs, returning home to her during the school holidays. Those children continued to speak their native tongue (Warumungu) and, ultimately, returned home to live with her after they had finished their schooling. 464 When she was about fifteen, Kathleen left Seven Mile Creek and went to Banka Banka Station where she married the head stockman. Her culture did not permit her to name her husband as he had since died, but she was able to agree that, as a result of her marriage, she began to use the name Simmons. As I have said, it was Kathleen's evidence that when she went to Banka Banka, Maisie stayed behind with Lorna at the Seven Mile depot, continuing to work as a cook. Mrs Cubillo did not address this issue in her evidence. If the dates that have been given in evidence are reasonably accurate then Lorna, having been born in 1938, would have only been two when Kathleen moved to Banka Banka in 1940. No one would expect a child of such tender years to have any memory of events at that age. Maisie came to Banka Banka, according to Kathleen's evidence, only after Lorna had been taken away to Darwin. And, of course, there was Kathleen's evidence that their grandmother Alice had died by the time Kathleen went to Banka Banka in 1940. Perhaps the reconciliation of that evidence with Lorna's lies in Kathleen having married later than 1940. Or perhaps, despite what I have just said, Kathleen was mistaken and her grandmother was not dead when Kathleen married. It is important to emphasise the divergence in the evidence for it shows how the memories of witnesses about significant matters can fade over such an extended period of time. Both witnesses spoke with assurance and I have no doubt that each believed in the accuracy of her evidence. But the fact remains that if the grandmother died in about 1940, then she could not have been caring for Lorna at Phillip Creek. 465 As I have said, the probabilities are that Kathleen's memory should be preferred to Lorna's. Mrs Cubillo was trying to remember not only events, but the chronology of events, that occurred when she was very young; she was only two years of age when Kathleen married in 1940 and Kathleen, as a young bride would, more likely than not, remember whether her grandmother was at her wedding. My preference for Kathleen's memory does not mean that I am discrediting Mrs Cubillo as a witness. But it does show how difficult it is for anybody to recall events that occurred so long ago and how difficult it is for the Court to proceed with confidence. It places in doubt that part of Mrs Cubillo's evidence about Messrs Harney and McGinness removing her from Banka Banka and it places in doubt her evidence about her grandmother's presence at the Phillip Creek Settlement. 466 When Kathleen went to Banka Banka Station, it was owned and operated by Mr and Mrs Ward. The Commonwealth tendered in evidence a video program that had apparently been produced in 1969 for public screening through television. It was entitled "The Missus of Banka Banka". I received it as an exhibit during the course of Kathleen's evidence because, on viewing it, she was able to identify Mrs Ward as the principal participating party in the documentary. Counsel for the Commonwealth used the video for the purpose of highlighting statements that had been made by Mrs Ward during the course of the documentary; he then asked Kathleen to comment on Mrs Ward's statements. Kathleen acknowledged that she knew Mrs Ward well as "The Missus" or "the boss lady" and in later life as "the old fella missus". She spoke of Mrs Ward in the kindest of terms, acknowledging that when she sold the station and moved to Tennant Creek she provided a home – also at Tennant Creek – for Kathleen and her family. Kathleen, in responding to statements that were attributed to Mrs Ward in the documentary, agreed that "the Missus" told her what was good for her and she also agreed that Mrs Ward taught Aboriginals how to look after themselves and their children in terms of health, hygiene and food. Mrs Ward was very insistent on the children's education, going so far as to pay for the education of Kathleen's children at a convent in Alice Springs. Kathleen agreed that the Aboriginal mothers "were happy" for their children to be educated. 467 Kathleen also agreed that Mrs Ward was insistent about proper care for the health of the children; she ensured that the children were cared for properly and kept clean; she conducted medical inspections of the children. Kathleen agreed, when it was put to her in cross-examination, that conduct and control, such as that exercised by Mrs Ward, meant that it was a better life for the children than life in the native camps. One scene from the documentary showed a group of about twelve children at a table eating a meal using knives and forks. Kathleen agreed that it was part of the routine at the school at Banka Banka to give the children a midday meal, teaching them standard table manners including the use of crockery and cutlery. The conduct of Mrs Ward and her attitudes, as displayed in the video, but, more importantly, as identified and verified by Kathleen in her evidence, were powerful reminders that there were European people in the Northern Territory in the 1940s who were dedicated in their concerns for the health and education of Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people. 468 Mr Penhall reported on an inspection that he conducted of Banka Banka Station. It is not clear when this inspection took place as the report was not dated. However, it is sufficient to say that it was in the late 1940s. The matter of interest is to record the glowing description of the facilities for the Aboriginal and part Aboriginals at the Station: "Accommodation: Each family has own accommodation, 6 married mens' huts, one single boys' hut, one single girls' hut, three showers provided. Laundry facilities provided, Two-pan type latrines. Cyclone stretchers and mattresses. Whole area kept very clean, each house had been swept and beds made. Huts provided at stock camp. Health: Very good. No medical supplies at present, but Station is connected by telephone to Tennant Creek. All children on the Station have been immunised against diphtheria. The Station has an excellent garden, natives are allowed as much as they can eat." In his report Mr Penhall noted the presence of: "Half Caste: One male, F---, aged 45 years, married to Kathleen, 7/8 black, three children: Priscilla … David … and Billy." The Kathleen, to whom reference was made in his report, is Kathleen Napanangka, Mrs Cubillo's tribal sister. Priscilla was a child of Kathleen Napanangka. Mr Penhall's report included the note that Priscilla was attending at a Convent in Alice Springs and that the younger boys will be sent to the convent on attaining school age. He then wrote: "Mr. And Mrs. Ward are paying the school fees of both Priscilla and E. M. Windley. They don't agree with the Department's policy of removing part aboriginals from their mothers, so they have decided to send the children to school at their own expense. They will pay for David and Billy's education when they become of age. I explained that if every employer sent the part aborigine children to school the Native Affairs Branch would not have to remove them. It was a job no one liked, but it gave the children an opportunity to lift themselves out of their environment." 469 EM Windley was Ethel May Windley, another part Aboriginal child who was then living at Banka Banka. Mr Penhall's report is interesting in several respects. First, it shows the reaction of Mr and Mrs Ward, the owners of Banka Banka to "the Department's policy" of removal. Why would they oppose a policy if it were only implemented with the mother's consent? Secondly, it shows, however, that they were not adverse to "the removal" of children in the more limited sense of sending them to boarding school. Thirdly, it is another piece of evidence pointing to the distress that the patrol officers encountered when the time came to enforce the policy; and finally, the note that it "gave the children an opportunity to lift themselves out of their environment" supported Mr Penhall's belief that the policy was based on what was perceived to be in the best interests of the child. 470 On 2 May 1950, patrol officer Bray compiled his report and noted in respect of the children at Banka Banka Station that: "The children are particularly well cared for and Mrs Ward desires to send all the part aboriginal children to school as soon as they become of age." 471 I have no reason to doubt the accuracy of the reports to which I have referred. Using them as a base, I therefore conclude that in 1949 and 1950 there were part Aboriginal children living at Banka Banka; they included Ethel May Windley and Priscilla and her brothers David and Billy, children of Kathleen Napanangka. Their whereabouts and their presence at the Station were known to the Native Affairs Branch as is evidenced by the patrol officers' reports. It is also implicit from the patrol officers' reports that no action was then contemplated by the Native Affairs Branch by way of removing those children from their families. 472 The probability is that Eileen Napanangka is older than her sister Kathleen because she said in evidence that she was married before the war and her two children were born before war broke out. 473 Eileen first lived at the Old Telegraph Station, then at the depot at Six Mile Creek before moving to Phillip Creek. In this she differed from her sister Kathleen, who made no mention of living at the Six Mile depot. Eileen's memory also differed from that of Kathleen's in respect of the missionary Mr Long. Kathleen said that he was stationed at the Old Telegraph Station (ie the depot at Seven Mile Creek), whereas Eileen said that Mr and Mrs Long were at Six Mile Creek. In fact, I find that Mr and Mrs Long moved from the Seven Mile depot to the Six Mile depot when the whole community was moved to the new site. Eileen and her husband, who has since died, were living in the Phillip Creek Settlement when Lorna was there. He worked as a butcher; Eileen did not work. 474 Eileen said that the Aboriginal mothers looked after their children at Seven Mile Creek, at Six Mile Creek and also at Phillip Creek; she said that the children were not separated from their families. It was her evidence that, at the depot at Seven Mile Creek and also at the depot at Six Mile Creek, the children lived with their parents in "windbreaks" and she claimed that the same arrangement existed at Phillip Creek – that the children were not separated from the adults. In this regard she must be wrong, unless she intended her answer to be limited to those children who had not yet reached school age. Her evidence on this subject is at variance with that of Mrs Cubillo and Bunny Napurrula. I am satisfied that Eileen's memory is at fault on this subject. At a later stage of her evidence, she was shown some photos in cross-examination; she was able to identify separate buildings at Phillip Creek where the boys and the girls slept. Nevertheless, she said that she and her husband slept in a camp with their children. This contradiction in her evidence suggested that the change in the circumstances of the children when they moved to Phillip Creek did not have any impact on her so far as her own children were concerned. But her children were born before the outbreak of the war; they would have been of school going age. Previously, all the children were part of the larger Aboriginal group at the depots that were conducted by the Aborigines Inland Mission at Seven Mile Creek and at Six Mile Creek. However, with the move to Phillip Creek, those who were of school going age were removed from the care of their families and placed in dormitories and sent to school. It is true that the families were camped around the perimeter of the Settlement so that the children were able to see them daily, but there was, nevertheless, the start of an ultimate parting. 475 Eileen said that she could remember the day when Lorna and the other children were taken away in a truck. She said that she and her people knew that the children were going to Darwin and that she knew, before Lorna went to Darwin, of the Retta Dixon Home as a place for schooling. Eileen said that there were two white persons in the truck that took the children away, that she knew who they were but, so she said, "I can't say their names". Later however, she said that the two men from the truck did not live at Phillip Creek and she had not seen them before. In cross-examination, when answering questions about the children's removal, she said that there were "two men, but maybe a lady too". After an initial hesitation, she firmed up saying that there were two men only. At first, she said that the two white men got the boys from the boys' room and then the girls from the girls' room but then she said that only half-caste children were taken. Yet she maintained that the boys were placed on the truck first and then the two white men got the girls. I cannot accept Eileen's evidence on this subject. There was only one white man – Mr Les Penhall. Although she said that she knew Mr Penhall as a welfare officer, she could only say that he might have been the tall man who drove the truck. She said that she was too far away to see him. 476 Eileen said that her mother, Maisie, Lorna's surrogate mother, was present with her when the children were removed and that they were both crying – she said that all the mothers and the children were crying. This is contrary to Lorna's evidence, who said Maisie was working at Banka Banka, but consistent with Kathleen's evidence. Eileen was quite clear in her evidence saying of herself and Maisie "we were both crying, mum and myself". Eileen then said that Maisie went to Banka Banka and, when asked why she left Phillip Creek, she answered "she was sorry". Once again the poignant use of the word "sorry" pointed to the deep emotional hurt that the parting with the children had caused. 477 Eileen said that she knew Miss Shankelton, but when shown a photograph of five women (one of whom had been identified by Mrs Cubillo as Miss Shankelton) Eileen was unable to recognise her. It was Eileen's evidence that she saw Miss Shankelton at Phillip Creek on ration days – Thursdays and Saturdays. There is no other evidence that would support this statement and the likelihood of Miss Shankelton being a regular visitor to the Settlement is remote. I believe that Eileen must have confused her with some other person. It was Eileen's recollection that Mr Thomas was the missionary at Phillip Creek at the time; she also recalled that a white woman was there too but she could not remember her name. That woman could have been the wife of Mr Thomas, but that is only speculation as there was no evidence on the subject. In re-examination, Eileen agreed that the woman whom she called Miss Shankelton lived at Phillip Creek and that "she might be a school teacher". Asked whether that woman had "lived there for a long time at Phillip Creek" she answered: "Yes". That evidence does not fit comfortably with her answers in cross-examination, but it does support my conclusion that she was confused. According to Eileen, Miss Shankelton arrived at the Settlement before the children were taken away. When she was asked how long before, she said at first "some days before" and then a "week before" but I am reluctant to rely on her time estimates. Initially, Eileen said that the white people talked to the mothers saying that they were taking the children on a picnic. She claimed that they did not ask for or obtain the mothers' permission to take the children to Darwin. It was then put to her that if she was too far away to recognise Mr Penhall, how was it that she could hear and understand what the white people had said to the mothers? Eileen was not able to answer this question. Later, Eileen said that Miss Shankelton only talked to the missionaries – that she did not talk to the Aboriginal people and that she left by motor car a day or so after the truck. Again I feel that I cannot accept her evidence on that subject. 478 Eileen did not suggest that Miss Shankelton was present at Phillip Creek on the day that the children were removed. She thought that the second (shorter) of the two white persons was Mr Harney; but in this she is plainly wrong. Mr Harney was not present when the children were taken but, of course, Miss Shankelton was. Eileen concluded her cross-examination by saying that she knew that the children had been taken to Retta Dixon Home at Darwin but that, notwithstanding that knowledge, "nobody went to Retta Dixon Home to see the children". How she acquired this knowledge was not tested. 479 I am not satisfied that Eileen understood the European system of counting. After saying that the youngest of the children was still breast-feeding, she was asked how many babies were taken? She replied "three, four or six". She said that they would have all been under twelve months old. This is contrary to Mrs Cubillo's evidence, who only referred to Gwen Rose as one who was so young. Later, Eileen agreed with propositions from the cross-examiner that there could have been as many as ten children under twelve months and that there could have been forty children on the truck. These answers did not play any part in my assessment of the reliability of Eileen's evidence. They merely proved that Eileen, who gave evidence through an interpreter, did not have normal numeracy skills. No attempt was made to test her ability notwithstanding the concern that I expressed at the time. 480 I believed Eileen when she said that she was at the Settlement on the day that the children were taken away on a truck, but I find myself unable to accept many of the details of her evidence. For example, she said that there were two white men in the truck: I am satisfied that there was only one – Mr Penhall. She claimed that she knew Mr Penhall and knew him at the time of the children's removal from Phillip Creek, yet she did not recognise him as one of the men in the truck; she merely said he could have been one of the men even though later she agreed with a leading question from the cross-examiner that Mr Penhall was one of the two men. It was Mr Penhall's evidence that he had only visited the Settlement on one earlier occasion and there is no other evidence that would indicate that Eileen had ever had an opportunity to meet or observe Mr Penhall. When asked in cross-examination whether she knew Mr Harney, her response was to say "Mr Harney short – he's – he's short man". That led to the following exchange: "He's the short man, yes. But are you saying that it was Mr Harney who was there that day or you just think it might have been? --- Yeah. THE INTERPRETER: She's saying that short fellow was Mr Harney. MR MEAGHER: Did you see him, did you? --- Yes. Yes, all right. So the two men you think were Mr Penhall and Mr Harney? And that's straight, is it? --- That's right? Yes." 481 Eileen said that the children wore their ordinary clothes but both Bunny and Annie Napurrula recalled that the children had new clothes. Eileen said that the men got out of the truck and loaded the boys onto the truck without speaking to the missionary who, so she said, took no part in the exercise. Eileen claimed that Mr Thomas was watching the two white men but that neither of them spoke to him. She did not speak to Mr Thomas and she did not see any of the mothers speak to him. 482 Eileen acknowledged that her two children received an education, first at Phillip Creek and later at Tennant Creek. When the children left for school at Tennant Creek, Eileen moved with them and they lived together in a Housing Commission house. The move to Tennant Creek occurred after Lorna was taken away. 483 In 1946 Bunny Napurrula was living with her family at Phillip Creek where her mother worked as a cook, "cooking there for the aboriginal and half-caste kids". One of those "half-caste kids" was Mrs Cubillo, then known as Lorna Napanangka. Bunny also said that there were three dormitories at Phillip Creek. One was for the Aboriginal girls, another was for the Aboriginal boys and a third, the one in the centre, was for the part Aboriginal children of both genders. It was her evidence that there were eleven children in this last mentioned dormitory – five boys and six girls. 484 Bunny Napurrula was an impressive witness. Although she was quietly spoken, and very difficult to understand at times, her evidence was helpful and I find myself able to accept it. She learnt English in school and has completed an interpreter's course. She has worked with linguists and anthropologists over the last twenty years but she still has difficulties with the English language and it was necessary at times to rely on an interpreter. Bunny said that she has spoken for her country in Land Claim Hearings and that she still does women's business for her country. 485 Bunny first lived and went to school at the depot at Six Mile Creek. She then moved with her family to Banka Banka Station. From there she went to the Phillip Creek Settlement where she continued her schooling and where her mother obtained work as a cook. She recalled that Mr and Mrs Long were the missionaries at the Six Mile Depot; when they left they were replaced by Mr and Mrs Thomas. At some later stage, Mr and Mrs Thomas transferred to the Phillip Creek Settlement, probably when the ration depot at Six Mile Creek was closed down. 486 When Bunny moved to Phillip Creek with her family, Lorna was already there. Bunny's sister, Annie, was a house mother at Phillip Creek and was in charge of the part Aboriginal boys; Dora Dawson was the house mother in charge of the part Aboriginal girls. Bunny recalled the time when Lorna left Phillip Creek. She said that she (Bunny) was then aged sixteen. If, as other evidence establishes, the children were removed in 1947, that would mean that Bunny is now aged 68 years. Her sister Annie is the elder of the two. Bunny knew Miss Shankelton and Mr Penhall. She said that they were the only white people on the truck that took the children. She knew Mr Penhall as a patrol officer who had visited the Settlement but Miss Shankelton had only arrived at the Settlement on the day before the children left on the truck. She was pressed on that point in cross-examination but maintained that Miss Shankelton arrived in a truck after lunch on the day before the children were taken away. Her evidence was simple and to the point: "She was there, she came in on truck, stayed there one night with those kids, let all the mothers stay there and in the morning they just packed up and left and we could see that truck goes; we all were crying for them." 487 The night before the children left, Bunny and some other women helped her mother prepare food. Somehow (the circumstances are not clear) she knew that the children were going away the next day and that food had to be prepared for them. However, she did not know why they were going or where they were going or for how long they would be gone. I infer from the way in which she gave her evidence that she knew the night before that the children were not going on a picnic but were going away for good. 488 Bunny also said that the house mothers and the mothers and aunties of the part Aboriginal children had been making clothes for the children. Annie could not remember this, however. She could only remember that new clothes appeared for the children on the day that they left on the truck but she did not know where they came from. If Bunny's memory is accurate, it meant that someone in the Settlement had advance knowledge that the part Aboriginal children were to be taken away and that they would need good (or better) clothes for that reason. That has appeal as an inference to be drawn; the probability is, and I find that, the Superintendent, Mr Thomas received some advance notice. On the other hand, the making of the clothes does not help in determining what the house mothers and the mothers of the part Aboriginal children would have known. They might have been instructed to prepare new clothes without being told the reason. With the deaths of Mr and Mrs Thomas and Mr Colley, the school teacher, there is now no way of knowing what information had been given in advance to the missionaries at Phillip Creek. 489 Bunny did not know what Miss Shankelton or Mr Penhall might have told the mothers. As I understood her evidence, she did not actually see the children loaded onto the truck for she said: "We went and lock ourself inside the house and we wept for those kids with our whole tribe of family, we're like sorry for those kids." 490 She repeated this later, saying: "I went and locked myself in the kitchen with my mum and we wept." She said that she could hear the children and the mothers "howling". She did not go back to the dormitory. I take that conduct to be her reaction, in sorrow, for the loss of the children. In cross-examination she said that her mother told her "those kids going to leave us, got to go, they make us sorry". At a later stage in her cross-examination, she added that when the children left on the truck "We didn't stay in the settlement, we went away too". Annie reacted in much the same way, saying that she locked herself away. 491 When she was asked what were the Aboriginal people doing when the truck left she answered: "All camp were howling for them." 492 Under objection, I permitted Bunny to state in her evidence that the departure of the children caused such grief that many of her people moved away from Phillip Creek and did not return for quite some time. She explained that Aboriginal people frequently moved camp following the death of a person as the place becomes a site of sadness. Thus the departure of the children was, likewise, regarded as an event of great sadness. Dora Dawson's child was one of the children who were taken that day. Both Bunny and Annie said that Dora Dawson left Phillip Creek and never returned. 493 Bunny was asked in cross-examination whether any of the children who went away on the truck came back. In the first instance, she said that she knew of two – Nelly Weddell and her cousin Ruth. When asked when it was that Nelly returned, she answered "couple of years back". I take that to mean a couple of years prior to her giving evidence – not a couple of years after Nelly was taken away. Bunny said that Ruth came back when she was a "big girl". In neither case was it disclosed in cross-examination whether these returns were of long or short duration but in re-examination Bunny said that Nelly returned to live in Tennant Creek; she also added that Joyce Schroeder, another one of the Phillip Creek children, had come back to live. In addition, Bunny named Marjorie, Jimmy Anderson and Audrey as children who left on the truck but who had returned to visit. Annie knew that Mrs Cubillo had returned to Tennant Creek for a visit; she said that she next saw Lorna "after 18 years" when "she came back here to visit us". At that time "she was grown up with kids". 494 According to Bunny, all eleven children from the half-castes' dormitory were placed on the truck, along with other children from other parts of the camp. She said that she could not give their ages because, at that time of her life, she did not understand the concept of age. However, I gathered from her evidence that there was a variety of ages. 495 Both Bunny and her elder sister, Annie Napurrula, said in evidence that the mothers of the part Aboriginal children and the Aboriginal men treated the part Aboriginal children in the same way as Aboriginal children were treated; the children all played together and they were loved as a whole family. Annie, who gave her evidence in English, but with an interpreter assisting, said that the part Aboriginal children were not treated any differently from the Aboriginal children. At that point, the interpreter interjected to say: "No, no, none of them hated those half-caste kids; mothers and stepfathers, they looked after them just like their own." I took that to be confirmation of what Annie had already said. 496 I accept the evidence of Annie as her personal experience; I have no cause to doubt her sincerity on such an important subject. However, it can only be treated as evidence of her personal experience. It cannot be elevated to a finding that all part Aboriginal children were accepted in the same manner. Regrettably, the evidence of other witnesses told of a different story of rejection and, at times, death. 497 Annie Napurrula lived in the dormitory at Phillip Creek with the part Aboriginal children as a house mother. She agreed that the families of those children also lived at the Settlement, but separately from them. The mothers were, however, allowed to visit the children. It was her evidence that the school going children were separated from their families at both Six Mile Creek and Phillip Creek. She also said of Six Mile Creek: "Aboriginal kids on – on their own, the half-caste kids on their own." At Phillip Creek, the teacher was Mr Colley and school hours were 8.00 am to 3.00 pm. The situation must have been very primitive for Annie said that although Mr Colley had slides, "all writing was in the dirt". 498 Annie remembered when Lorna was taken away from Phillip Creek. She was also able to name Miss Shankelton and Mr Penhall as the white people who took her. Asked whether she had ever seen Miss Shankelton before, Annie's answer was not to the point, but it was highly significant. She said: "Yeah. Miss Shankelton will say to me – talk to me – take away these kids better home, better school, better food and Miss Shankelton say that." Accepting, as I do, the truthfulness of that answer, it pointed to Miss Shankelton having a personal belief that what she was doing would be in the best interests of the children. It was some indication that Miss Shankelton conveyed a subjective belief that the intended removal of the children was premised on what she considered would be in their best interests. People today may condemn Miss Shankelton for her views and for her actions but the evidence of the Commonwealth's witnesses challenged the allegation in the pleadings that the Commonwealth had acted with a "conscious and contumelious disregard" for the welfare of the children and with "a wanton cruel and reckless indifference" to their welfare. 499 Annie claimed that she knew that the children were going to Darwin and she also claimed that she saw both Miss Shankelton and Mr Penhall talking to the mothers. She said that she heard Miss Shankelton and Mr Penhall say to the mothers that they were taking the children to Darwin but she did not hear what the mothers said in reply. Annie said that she was not present when the children got on the truck; she had locked herself away in her room. She said, however, that "all the mothers were there looking at the truck" and "they was crying, sorry for the kids". 500 Annie, who has five children, said that her three daughters went to a Uniting Church school in Darwin. The girls boarded at the school while Annie lived in a Housing Commission house at Tennant Creek. At that stage, she was working as a cleaner in the local hospital. In re-examination she was asked whether it was her decision to send her children away to school. Whether the answer was expected or not, it was – "Yes! I sent them away myself". Once more, the contemporary attitude of the Aboriginal person to western education surfaced. Annie is a person who is deeply steeped in her Aboriginal culture and it would be an affront to her to suggest that she should abandon it for western civilisation. But that did not prevent her from recognising the importance of a western education; she, and others like her, have shown their determination to have their children introduced to western culture, even if, as in Annie's case, it meant that she and her daughters had to suffer the loneliness of separation while the girls were at boarding school. Who Removed the Children from Phillip Creek 501 Ms Hollingworth, during the course of her final address, submitted that there was insufficient evidence to enable the Court to determine, on the balance of probabilities, whether the move from Phillip Creek to the Retta Dixon Home was controlled by the Director of Native Affairs (who requested Miss Shankelton's assistance by accompanying the children), or by the Aborigines Inland Mission (who requested the assistance of the Native Affairs Branch by transporting the children). I acknowledge that the evidence was sparse but a clue to the relationship between the Native Affairs Branch and the Aborigines Inland Mission can be found in Appendix "C" to the "Report on the Administration of The Northern Territory for year 1945-46". Appendix "C" was sub-titled "Report on Native Affairs 1945‑46" and at 30 it said of the Aborigines Inland Mission: "Although this body has no establishment of its own, it has provided staff who have controlled departmental settlements. Their work has been of inestimable assistance to this Branch, particularly during the war years when it was impossible for us to obtain other suitable staff. The depot at Tennant Creek (later Phillip Creek) has always been staffed by this Mission." I have no doubt that the reference to the "depot at Tennant Creek" would have meant, first, the depot at Seven Mile Creek and later, the depot at Six Mile Creek. The entry in the Administrator's report established that the Administrator regarded the Phillip Creek Settlement as a Departmental Settlement and I find accordingly. His statement that the Aborigines Inland Mission did not have an establishment of its own was accurate at the time but subsequently became inaccurate when Miss Shankelton was instrumental in having the Mission establish the Retta Dixon Home on the Bagot Reserve. 502 Who decided that the children should be moved to Retta Dixon and why was such a decision made? The Native Affairs Branch could have made a decision that the children would be moved but it could not have forced the Retta Dixon Home to receive the children. The Aborigines Inland Mission might have decided that it would have been better for the children to be moved to its new Home in Darwin but could it have implemented any such decision without the approval of the authorities? By what right might a private organisation remove part Aboriginal children from their families? As both the Director of Native Affairs and the Aborigines Inland Mission had knowledge of the presence of the part Aboriginal children at Phillip Creek, either one of them might have made contact with the other to initiate a joint enterprise which concluded with the removal of the children. The utilisation of Mr Penhall is sufficient in my opinion, without more, to substantiate a finding that the authorities did approve of the move, but the details of any such approval are now wholly lacking. The probabilities are that the Aborigines Inland Mission, having recently opened the Retta Dixon Home for part Aboriginal children, made a decision to move the part Aboriginal children, who it regarded as being in its care at Phillip Creek, from that Settlement to the new Home. After all, its missionaries were "running" the Phillip Creek Settlement and they were also "running" the Retta Dixon Home; it could be that it was a decision of the missionaries that it would be "better" for the part Aboriginal children to move them to the Retta Dixon Home. In that scenario, it might be argued that the Native Affairs Branch would have been little more than an interested arm of Government who gave its approval to the decision and assisted in its implementation by making Mr Penhall and the truck available. An additional factor that favours the conclusion that the Aborigines Inland Mission was the dominant force in the move was the fact that, in July 1947, when the part Aboriginal children were removed from Phillip Creek, the Retta Dixon Home had not yet received official recognition from the authorities. It was not declared to be an Aboriginal institution within the 1918 Ordinance until the following December. The Retta Dixon Home had started in 1946 as a matter of necessity so that there would be a home for the part Aboriginal children who had returned to Darwin after the war. That was the first and only Home that was being conducted by the Aborigines Inland Mission. Perhaps it saw the establishment of the Retta Dixon Home as the logical place to care for those part Aboriginal children who were then living at Phillip Creek. 503 In making her submissions on this subject, Ms Hollingworth advanced a third alternative to the effect that some or all of the parents might have initiated the children's removal by asking the Aborigines Inland Mission or the Native Affairs Branch to assist them in getting a better education for the children. I do not accept that as a realistic possibility having regard to the evidence that has been adduced during the course of the trial. The distressing scenes that accompanied the children's departure from Phillip Creek transcended the sadness that would have accompanied a parting between mother and child that was initiated by the mother. Whilst there is evidence from some of the applicants' witnesses, such as Eileen Napanangka and Annie Napurrula, to the effect that Miss Shankelton spoke to the mothers of the children, that evidence is not sufficient, in my opinion, to warrant a finding that, as the Commonwealth would have it, the parents of the Phillip Creek children consented to their children going to Darwin for a better education and a better standard of living. Be that as it may, the question that goes to the heart of this trial, is not the issue of the mothers' consents: important though that is, the question that must be asked is dictated by the legislation. Section 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance empowered the Director to undertake "the care, custody or control" of Lorna Napanangka "if, in his opinion it [was] necessary or desirable to so do". If, therefore, it was the Director who took Lorna away – with or without the consent of her family – has it been established by Mrs Cubillo that, in taking her, he did not do so under the umbrella of s 6. There is no evidence upon which this Court could rely to make a finding that the Phillip Creek children were the subjects of an exercise of power by the Director of Native Affairs that exceeded the boundaries of ss 6 or 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance. Conversely, there is no evidence that the Director of Native Affairs acted pursuant to those statutory provisions. 504 It is necessary to ask whether, by the act of removing Lorna from Phillip Creek, the Director undertook her "care, custody or control" or whether he merely stood by, allowing the Aborigines Inland Mission to undertake her care, custody or control. If Mrs Cubillo has any cause of action against the Commonwealth, it can only be because the Director either did not form the opinion as required by the Ordinance or because any opinion that he did form was not necessary or desirable in her interests. If the Director formed an appropriate opinion as is referred to in s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance, the decision of the High Court in Kruger has established that the Director's conduct in taking Lorna into his care, custody or control cannot be constitutionally challenged. 505 The onus rested on Mrs Cubillo to establish that the Director did not act in the manner permitted by s 6; she must satisfy the Court that the Director either did not form any opinion or that the opinion that he did form was either so unreasonable that no reasonable person could have formed it or, at least, that it could not be said that he believed that her removal was necessary or desirable in her interests. Mr Moy is dead; his oral testimony is not available; but further, there is no documentary evidence that points to the formulation of any opinion, decision or resolution relating to the removal of Lorna from Phillip Creek. The subject of "time limits" and "prejudice" will be discussed later in these reasons but it is timely to note, at this stage, the prejudice that the Commonwealth would suffer if, contrary to the view that I have expressed, it carried the onus of satisfying the Court that the Director had formed an opinion that it was necessary or desirable in the interests of Lorna to take her into his care, custody or control. The extreme delay in the institution of these proceedings has meant that the Commonwealth has been denied the benefit of Mr Moy's oral evidence and, if there was any written material, access to whatever written material may have been on file in the Native Affairs Branch. 506 Counsel for Mrs Cubillo submitted that it was not open to the Commonwealth to contend that the removal of Lorna Nelson was carried out after a consideration of her individual circumstances. But that submission was tantamount to saying that there was an onus on the Commonwealth to prove that it had made an assessment of Lorna's personal circumstances: that is not the test. The onus was on Mrs Cubillo to establish to the satisfaction of the Court: · that the Director of Native Affairs by his agent, Mr Les Penhall, was the person or one of the persons who removed her; · that the Commonwealth was vicariously responsible for the conduct of the Director and Mr Penhall; and · that in the process of removing her, the Director failed to form an opinion that it was necessary or desirable in Lorna's interests to undertake her care. If those tasks are now regarded as apparently onerous tasks for Mrs Cubillo, it is to be remembered that it is because she is only now complaining about events that occurred to her in the period 1947 to 1956. It may not have been her fault that there has been such an extreme delay: she may not have known of her rights. But, at the least from the time when her guardianship ceased, it could not be said that her delay was caused by the fault of the Director of Native Affairs or the Commonwealth. 507 The Commonwealth, during the course of its final submissions went beyond the personal circumstances of Lorna Nelson at the time of her removal from Phillip Creek; it broached the larger subject of the total reaction of the Aboriginal community to the departure of all the children. It submitted that the crying and the wailing (which it accepted did occur) was only indicative of the unhappiness that would have been shown when children were leaving for a long time; the submission used the analogy of children leaving for boarding school. The Commonwealth maintained that the reaction of the mothers did not indicate lack of consent. I am not prepared to accept that submission. In the first place, my function is limited to the personal circumstances of Lorna Nelson; her circumstances may have been, but were not necessarily, identical to the personal circumstances of the other children. In the second place, although I fall short of making a formal finding on the subject, my reaction to the Commonwealth submission is to say that the behaviour of the mothers, the evidence of Mrs Cubillo, the evidence of the three Tennant Creek women and the limited time available to Miss Shankelton to explain what would happen to the children, suggested that some, if not all, of the children may well have been taken without their mothers' consent. 508 Mr Penhall's involvement in the removal of the children from Phillip Creek cannot be dismissed as minimal; it cannot be said of him that he was a mere driver for Miss Shankelton when she and her mission removed the children. That much became apparent when it was recognised that Mr Penhall did not arrive at Phillip Creek by chance; he was not unexpectedly co-opted by Miss Shankelton as a result of a fortuitous arrival at the Settlement. He was stationed at Yuendumu, performing his functions at that location as an officer of the Native Affairs Branch. That was the context in which his movements were to be evaluated. Someone in authority in the Native Affairs Branch sent Mr Fred Gubbins, another employee of the Native Affairs Branch, to Yuendumu to bring Mr Penhall to Alice Springs so that Mr Penhall could get a truck and drive it over 500 kilometres from Alice Springs through Tennant Creek to Phillip Creek. Someone in authority in the Native Affairs Branch instructed Mr Penhall to purchase and supply rations for a known number of people. In other words, the totality of the exercise indicated a measure of involvement by the Native Affairs Branch sufficient to find, as I do, that the Native Affairs Branch participated in the decision to remove and in the removal of the children from Phillip Creek. There is an invitation to infer that the Director of Native Affairs acted under s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance; a contrary inference would point to illegal activity on the part of the Director. However, the evidence is too lacking for concrete findings to be made with respect to the reasons behind the Director's decision to participate in the removal. 509 Mrs Cubillo chose to call only two of the Phillip Creek children who are still alive, namely Jimmy Anderson and Willy Lane. Mr Lane remembered virtually nothing about the removal and Mr Anderson's evidence on most matters was vague and confused. Mrs Cubillo acknowledged in her evidence that the following Phillip Creek children are still alive and living in the places indicated: Norman Anderson (Darwin), Nell Waddell (Tennant Creek), Ann Lane (Tennant Creek), Joyce Schroeder (Tennant Creek), Marjorie Winphil (Darwin), Gwen Rose (NSW), Audrey Anderson (Victoria) and Vera Doran (Western Australia). Vera Doran was said to be a chronic asthmatic with a heart condition. Should that be the case, it would be understandable that she might not be medically fit to give evidence. However, no attempt was made to establish that fact either by evidence or by agreement with the Commonwealth. In addition to them, there was Peter Hansen, the boy who allegedly jumped off the truck before it left Phillip Creek. Mr Penhall gave evidence, which I accept, that he recently met Peter Hansen and his wife at a Shopping Centre in Palmerston (a Darwin suburb). Apart from Mrs Doran, no explanation was given for the failure to call Peter Hansen or any of the other Phillip Creek children (particularly those living in Darwin or Tennant Creek). 510 The question that remained was whether Mrs Cubillo's failure to call some or all of those persons as witnesses in the trial affected the findings that were open to the Court. Important though the larger social question may be to the Aboriginal community, it was not the task of this Court to inquire whether the parents or guardians of the other children had consented to their removal. The Court's responsibility was to inquire into the circumstances of Lorna Nelson. Who was responsible for her removal? Was her removal effected with the consent of the person or persons who were then responsible for her? The Commonwealth contended that there could not have been any doubt in the minds of the legal advisers for the applicants: they would have known that the Commonwealth was raising as an issue the question whether the admission to the Retta Dixon Home was voluntary or forced. The Commonwealth also submitted that the applicants' legal advisers knew that the Commonwealth intended to argue that the emotional scenes at Phillip Creek were only expressions of regret and understandable pangs of emotion at the young children going off to what they, the adult women, believed was a better place for them. The applicants submitted, on the other hand, that it would have been superfluous to their needs in proving their case to call each and every person who was taken away from Phillip Creek; they argued that a party is not required to duplicate evidence. I agree; the evidence of Jimmy Anderson, Willy Lane and the three Aboriginal women was enough. There is no reason to suppose that the surviving children could have made a material contribution to the evidence that had been tendered. The circumstances under which the part Aboriginal children were removed from Phillip Creek and the family circumstances of Lorna Nelson were two very important issues in this trial. However, the potential witnesses would have been very young children in 1947; Mrs Cubillo was, at eight years of age, one of the oldest children. It is doubtful whether those missing witnesses would have been able to shed more light on these subjects. I decline to draw any inference that has a base in whole or in part, on the failure of Mrs Cubillo to call those persons as witnesses. 511 The conclusion that I have reached is that Lorna Nelson Napanangka was removed from the Phillip Creek Native Settlement and was taken to the Retta Dixon Home as part of a joint exercise that involved both the Aborigines Inland Mission and the Native Affairs Branch. However, I further hold that Mrs Cubillo has failed to establish that she was, at that time, in the care of an adult Aboriginal person (such as Maisie) whose consent to her removal was not obtained. I also find that Mrs Cubillo failed to prove that the Director did not form the opinion that was referred to in s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance. The Retta Dixon Home 512 The Aborigines Inland Mission of Australia is an interdenominational faith mission that was founded in about 1905 by Retta Long (nee Dixon) and her husband, Leonard Long; it is based in Sydney and, during the 1940s and 1950s, it had missionaries working in a variety of places in the Northern Territory and elsewhere throughout Australia. It was of significance to the facts of Mrs Cubillo's case that the mission had missionaries working at the depots for Aboriginals at Seven Mile Creek, Six Mile Creek and Phillip Creek during the 1940s and the 1950s. Although the evidence did not support detailed findings about the role that these depots played in the lives of the Aboriginal community, it was clear that they were used to distribute rations. However, did that mean that the Aboriginals, or some of them, therefore congregated at the depots of their own accord so that they could benefit from the distribution of rations? Or did it mean that some form of compulsion, coercion or persuasion was used by people in authority to gather the Aboriginals into a convenient central location? And what about the missionaries? What part did they play? In particular, did they exercise any coercive or persuasive powers over the Aboriginals or, at least, the part Aboriginal children? None of those questions can be answered with confidence from the evidence that was presented at the trial. 513 Miss Shankelton arrived in Darwin in 1939 and worked in and around Darwin until March 1942, when she escorted a large number of part Aboriginal children, who were being evacuated from Darwin, to "Saints Farmhouse", a property near Balaklava in South Australia. One of the part Aboriginal children who was evacuated to "Saints" was Mrs Marjorie Harris, a witness in the trial for the Commonwealth. Until the end of the war, the Aborigines Inland Mission operated a hostel at "Saints" for the young evacuees who attended local schools. The missionaries who worked at "Saints" with Miss Shankelton included Ms Dinham and Ms Spohn, both of whom subsequently worked at the Retta Dixon Home after the war. Miss Shankelton returned to Darwin with the evacuees in May 1946, but there was no suitable institution in the Darwin area to house the children. Miss Shankelton was, as a result, permitted by the Northern Territory Administration to utilise a number of buildings on the Bagot Aboriginal Reserve which was situated about eight kilometres from the centre of Darwin. Shortly thereafter, the Aborigines Inland Mission established its Home in an unoccupied section of the Reserve. The Home was initially called the Aborigines Inland Mission Home, Darwin, but by April 1948 it had become known as the Retta Dixon Home. 514 On 17 December 1947, the Administrator of the Northern Territory, Mr Driver, declared the Retta Dixon Home an Aboriginal institution under the Aboriginals Ordinance. On the same day, Miss Amelia Shankelton was appointed as the founding Superintendent of the Home. She remained the Superintendent during the whole of the period in which Lorna Nelson resided in the Home. During Mrs Cubillo's time at the Retta Dixon Home, the day to day management of the Home was the responsibility of Miss Shankelton, the Superintendent. As previously noted, the children in the Home were under her control and supervision by virtue of the provisions of subs 13(6) of the Aboriginals Ordinance. 515 In her day to day management of the Retta Dixon Home, Miss Shankelton reported to the Director of the Aborigines Inland Mission. Prior to 1953, that had been Mrs Retta Long. After 1953, it was her son, the Reverend Egerton Charles Long; he gave evidence in this case on behalf of the Commonwealth. Mr Long, who is a retired Baptist Pastor, said that he was eighty-two years of age at the time of giving his evidence in this matter. He said that his mother and his late father, Leonard, had established the Aborigines Inland Mission in 1905 or 1906 at about the time of their marriage. His father died in 1928 and his mother died in 1956. He and his wife joined the mission in late 1945. William Arnold ("Arnold") Long was his elder brother and Arnold's wife was Dorothy. Arnold began his work as a missionary with the Aborigines Inland Mission in the early 1930s and continued until the late 1940s. Arnold and Dorothy then established a separate missionary group in Alice Springs where they remained until their deaths. Mr Long remained as Director until about December 1972. Although he was the sole Director, it was his practice to consult with the mission's two councils - the Federal Advisory Council and the Field Council. In the late 1940s and the early 1950s, Mr Long estimated that there would have been about forty-five to fifty missionaries on the staff of the Aborigines Inland Mission; they conducted missions on the Murray River, throughout New South Wales and Queensland, and in the Northern Territory at Darwin, Katherine, Newcastle Waters and Borroloola. The Retta Dixon Home was unique in that it was the only Hostel or Home that was being conducted by the mission. 516 Mr Long agreed that, in the early 1950s, discussions were taking place for the relocation of the Retta Dixon Home. He agreed that the reasons behind that move were threefold: first, the existing facilities were inadequate; secondly the buildings were needed for the Bagot Compound; and thirdly, it was generally accepted that the locality of the Retta Dixon Home within the Bagot Reserve was unsuitable because of the proximity of the children to the adult Aboriginal people in the compound. Mr Milliken, for example, said that there was great concern about the location of the Retta Dixon Home; the accommodation and playing areas for the children were limited and the proximity of young men in the Bagot Reserve and the RAAF base were matters that Mr Milliken identified as matters of concern. The premises of Retta Dixon Home were eventually relocated in 1961, long after Lorna Nelson left the Home, when the mission leased about ten acres of land on Bagot Road near the airport. In its original format, the Retta Dixon Home provided the children with dormitory accommodation. However, it moved into cottage-type accommodation at the new site which was about one mile from the original site. The Commonwealth Government made a grant to the mission of Ł90,000 which was used to build eight cottages and other support buildings. Sir Paul Hasluck, as Minister for the Territories, opened the buildings in July 1961 and the Home continued until Cyclone Tracy destroyed it on Christmas Day 1974. The Home staggered on in a very modified form until it was ultimately closed in 1982. 517 Asked whether the missionaries who worked at Retta Dixon were paid a salary, the Reverend Long replied: "There was an allowance available to them from the Welfare Department, however, a number of the workers, or some of the workers anyway, didn't accept that because they felt that they had been called as missionaries and were looking to God to supply their needs …" 518 Mr Long said that most of the buildings at the Retta Dixon Home were Sydney Williams huts that had been obtained from the army. He said that they were just corrugated iron huts with shutters that opened out to give cross-ventilation but, so he said, buildings in Darwin in the late 1940s and the early 1950s were much the same; he was of the opinion that Darwin did not "begin to pick up for quite some time after the War". He said that there was no air conditioning at the Retta Dixon Home nor in any of the places in Darwin that he knew of. It was his opinion that "overall accommodation was not of a high standard anywhere in Darwin at that particular period". 519 He spoke highly of Miss Shankelton, saying that she operated: "very efficiently, very lovingly, very caringly. She simply gave herself to the task. I really hardly know when she slept. It seemed to me she was on duty eighteen and twenty hours a day and she not only cared for the office end, but she cared for the total administration and the care of the children and she just gave herself to the whole task." Asked whether he had any reservations about the way in which Miss Shankelton performed her work he replied: "I don't think I could have any reservations. I think only a remarkable woman entirely devoted to the work and to God could possibly have done what she did and she was honoured with an MBE from the Queen for her work, which I think speaks for itself too." 520 Mr Long said that, after his appointment as the Director of the Aborigines Inland Mission, he visited Darwin about once per year. The purpose of his visits, which lasted up to two weeks, was to talk with the Superintendent and to make his inspections. Apart from his visits, he said that Miss Shankelton kept him informed about the affairs of the Home through letters, phone calls and telegrams. Miss Shankelton was also required to report to the Mission's councils. 521 Mr Long said that the process for appointment as a missionary with the Aborigines Inland Mission involved applying, with references and a medical certificate, to the Mission, being interviewed by the Federal Council, and, if accepted, serving a probationary period under a senior missionary until ready to take up an appointment. In deciding which missionaries would staff Retta Dixon, the Field Council had regard to the needs of the Home and the type of missionaries who might fit in there. Mr Long explained that it was difficult to fill places at the Retta Dixon Home because of an overall shortage of workers within the Mission. 522 The Federal Advisory Council of the Aborigines Inland Mission took care of business matters such as applications for employment from workers. The Council comprised business people, pastors and friends of the mission. The Mission's Field Council dealt with matters in the field such as the placement and care of missionaries and their establishment. As I have already said, I find that at all times, the selection and appointment of staff at the Retta Dixon Home was the sole responsibility of the mission. All of the former missionaries who gave evidence came to work at the Retta Dixon Home through contact with the Aborigines Inland Mission and without any Government involvement in their recruitment. The Director of Native Affairs had no power of appointment or termination of appointment of staff; he had only the power to order people off the Bagot Reserve, and thereby off the premises of the Retta Dixon Home. 523 Throughout the time that Mrs Cubillo was at the Retta Dixon Home, it served several purposes. Unlike St Mary's Hostel in Alice Springs, the Retta Dixon Home provided accommodation not only for half-caste children of school age, but also for single half-caste mothers and their babies and young half-caste girls who were working in the town. It also took in half-caste babies who had been abandoned or placed there for care. Mr Gordon Sweeney, in his Review Report on the Retta Dixon Home dated 27 September 1951 said of it: "In the Retta Dixon Home we see a part-aboriginal community growing up in the midst of a white community; the children attend the same school as the white children and receive hospitalisation in the general hospital with the white patients. The service rendered by the Home for the part-aboriginal women is the only one of its kind in Darwin and is helping to meet a great need. The control of this section of the work is good. The Institution is making satisfactory progress in preparation of the inmates for life in our community, and in its work for part-aboriginal women, is meeting an essential need in Darwin." 524 When Mr Long was asked to explain the origins of the children who lived at the Retta Dixon Home he answered in this manner: "Well, a variety of ways, I guess. The first group came out of – well, came originally from Darwin were evacuated to South Australia during World War II and then returned to Darwin in 1946 and there were fifty-one, I think, in that group, but that did include some women as well. And that was the beginning of the home and then other children were brought to the home in various ways. A lot of parents brought their children to the home when they themselves were going out to work on a cattle station, for example, and they wanted their children to be educated in Darwin. Then, thirdly, there were the children that were put in the home by the Welfare Department, brought there in accordance with their particular policy of giving opportunity to part-coloured children to receive education and so on." He said he did not have "much specific knowledge" about ongoing contact between parents and children, but he added that he did recall "some children being allowed home during school holidays". He added that he could recall parents coming to the Home to see their children. However, as he added, he was in Sydney and his only information about the Home was based on his visits together with the information that was passed through to him, mostly from Miss Shankelton. He had no personal knowledge of the circumstances in which the group of children from Phillip Creek came to the Retta Dixon Home in July 1947. 525 When the Retta Dixon Home was established, the Northern Territory Administration provided the buildings and furnishings which were, in the main, surplus army stores. The Administration also supplied rations and transportation. Initially, and for a period of years, the Government provided financial assistance in the form of an annual grant of money plus all the food that was needed for the Home. The Aborigines Inland Mission raised the rest of the funds that were needed for the operation of the institution. In 1951 the system of funding Aboriginal institutions in the Northern Territory was changed to an annual budget. Under the new system, an institution would receive an annual operational grant and an annual capital grant based on budget estimates that were submitted by it and approved by the Administration. By 1954 the amount of the subsidy had been formalised on a ninety:ten basis. The operational grant from the Administration was to cover 90 percent of the operating losses for items such as salaries, food, clothing, health, hygiene, social activities and the like. The capital grant was to cover 90 percent of the cost of any capital equipment that was purchased. 526 Additional funds were received by Retta Dixon and other institutions through child endowment payments which were collected by the Home on the authority of the parents. In addition, some parents were able to pay fees and those of its inmates who were working were able to make contributions to the institution. Finally, funds were generated internally by the Aborigines Inland Mission from time to time. 527 When the Phillip Creek children arrived at the Retta Dixon Home, there were forty-eight children and eight adult women in residence; those numbers peaked in 1954 to one hundred and ten children and six adult women and in 1956 when Lorna left Retta Dixon, there were ninety-eight children and five adult women. Many of the children who lived in the Retta Dixon Home were there because it was the wish of their families. Mrs Cubillo knew this and recognised it during her evidence. Children who were known to her, were named and she acknowledged that they were visited by their mothers. 528 The report on the Administration of the Northern Territory for 1945-1946 referred to the mission that had been established by Miss Shankelton and the newly established St Mary's Hostel at Alice Springs. In relation to these two new institutions, Mr Carrington, the then Acting Director of Native Affairs, observed that: "The experiment conducted by the Aborigines Inland Mission in Darwin and the Church of England Board of Missions in Alice Springs, whereby children are cared for in the institution but receive their education at the public school along with European children and half-caste children not under the control of the Branch, will be watched with interest. This innovation eliminates the institution school and is calculated to inculcate confidence in the children by their association with European children." 529 Mr Carrington's report suggested that the experiment was designed with the interests and welfare of the children in mind. Support for this proposition can be found in many of the papers. For example the Administrator of the day, Mr Driver, wrote a letter dated 16 September 1947 in optimistic terms to the Secretary, Department of Interior, saying of the Retta Dixon Home: "The aim of the Aborigines Inland Mission at Darwin is to care for their half-caste wards and train them to become worthy and responsible citizens. The Hostel is intended to be a congenial home for young women employed in Darwin where they will receive advice and guidance." 530 On 6 July 1949, Mr Driver wrote the Department of the Interior as a consequence of inquiries that had been made of the Department about claimed "discriminatory restrictions on Aborigines" by "the United Nations Association of Australia". The indignation of the Administrator came through in that part of his letter where he dealt with the removal of part Aboriginal children. He wrote: "Critics choose to disregard that the illegitimate child in a native camp is the result of an illegal liaison between a despicable white man and a native woman. The presence of such children is decried, though a benevolent Government, acting entirely in the interest of the individual, is criticised severely when the child is removed for upbringing and education." 531 It is clear that Mr Driver recognised that the Government's policy, which he regarded as "benevolent" and "in the interest of the individual", was not universally accepted. What is more, for the Administrator of the Northern Territory to give recognition to dissent, also pointed to the dissent being of significance; the outcries of a few people only would hardly have warranted the reaction that appeared in Mr Driver's letter. 532 Three years later, on 30 August 1950, Mr Driver wrote the Director, Northern Territory Affairs, Department of the Interior, about Retta Dixon, saying that the Home aimed at: "providing a Christian Home for coloured children where they are loved, educated and trained to take their place in the community as good citizens." 533 On 17 August 1953, patrol officer Ryan submitted a detailed report on the activities of the Retta Dixon Home. For the most part, the report was critical of the Home's functions and of its future. However, Mr Ryan was, with some qualifications, happy with the staff. He listed each of them with a brief note about their respective roles and then said: "They impress as being suitable and well-trained for looking after the spiritual and physical welfare of children but with the exception of the superintendent I do not consider they would have an adequate control of post-school children. I did not observe one member of the staff participating in outside recreation or play with the school children. The older school boys need a male staff member with whom they can share their pleasure and worries." He was far less complimentary about the location of the Home and of its facilities. He wrote: "The buildings are inadequate to segregate properly the school children from the adults. By looking after adult coloured people the mission is supplying to the best of its ability an urgent service to the community. However, it is obvious that it is not in the interests of school children to be in close contact with such adults in distress. If the home is to continue as it is there should be different arrangements made in this respect." Mr Lovegrove was shown this passage in Mr Ryan's report; he agreed with what had been written. Further on in his report, Mr Ryan added: "Under present circumstances the location of the Retta Dixon Home is most unsatisfactory, and, although its work is of definite importance as a temporary measure as it meets the immediate demand for the physical needs of half-caste children, it can offer no assurance regarding a successful future for the inmates. It is not suggested that this situation is the fault of the mission so much as it is that of the circumstances under which the staff works. If there is to be any prolonged delay in transferring the Retta Dixon Home from Bagot Road I would have no hesitation in recommending that some of the children be divided between Croker Island and Garden Point if only as a temporary measure." 534 The Retta Dixon Home did not enjoy the support of Mr McCaffrey who in 1954 was the Darwin based Acting Director of Native Affairs. In a report dated 3 February 1954 to the Administrator, he was scathing in his comments about the staff and the qualities of the Home. As to the staff he wrote: "Apart from the Superintendent, Miss M. Shankelton, the staff are in my opinion quite unfitted to undertake the care of these children, and in one particular case of an adult male assistant, I have observed him displaying an overbearing manner and dealing out brutal chastisement on the inmates with a rope or strap, whichever happens to be handy." 535 The Administrator, Mr FJS Wise, in writing to the Secretary, Department of Territories in Canberra on 9 July 1954 quoted this passage from Mr McCaffrey's letter. In that letter Mr Wise was discussing a proposal for the removal of all part Aboriginal children, presently in institutions in the Darwin area, to Gawler in South Australia. He was particularly critical of the conditions at Retta Dixon Home. He said of it: "I have no compunction in saying that as the Retta Dixon Home is so badly sited and so ineffectively controlled, that the claims of Reverend E.C. Long are quite unimpressive. If we are to control these children in a home where fundamentals of hygiene, moral training and social adjustments are to be dominant the Gawler proposal appears to be well on the way towards a solution." The reference to "control" over the children is quite significant. The sources of the Administrator's criticism were the liaisons, which he described as "undesirable", between the "coloured girls" from the Home and the "full blood Aborigines" from the Bagot Reserve. These contacts, according to the Administrator, were made at "regular prayer meetings attended by both coloured girls and full blood Aborigines" which meetings were countenanced by the missionary personnel. He added: "The staff are unrealistic and are obviously untrained in the necessary welfare activities which ensure a better social adjustment for the adolescent boys and girls under their control." This passage from the Administrator's letter was put to Mr Long during the course of his cross-examination. He agreed that it was "strong language"; he said that the letter was written at about the time when there were discussions that the Retta Dixon Home would move to a location in Winnellie. However, as he said: "… nothing came of it. The mission didn't have money to – to commence a program like that and the – the Welfare Department didn't have it, and so somehow or other the plan fell through." 536 As to the qualities of the Home, Mr McCaffrey had this to say in his report of 3 February 1954: "I have no hesitation in stating that the Home in its present location and form is a failure, and the children are merely benefiting to the extent that they are clothed, fed and are receiving some form of education. The only other contribution to their upbringing is perhaps the religious training given by the staff which to my mind is made to play far too important part in their formative years, and is far too restrictive. From my observations, I would say that the majority of ex-Retta Dixon Home children are composed of an anti-social group, and seldom raise themselves above what might be termed the slum element in the community of Darwin." 537 The Home was the subject of yet another adverse report in the following month. On 25 March 1954, Mr AF Marsh, the local health inspector, reported on the condition of the Retta Dixon Home to the Deputy Director of Health in Darwin. The contents of this report were highly critical of the Home. Mr Marsh described the sanitary accommodation as "dirty, unserviceable and insufficient". He said that the boy's latrines were "filthy"; they were blocked and covered with a heavy stain and slime. Elsewhere, food wastes were in various stages of decomposition. A week or so later, on 1 April 1954, Mr Sweeney made an inspection of the lavatory block at Retta Dixon Home in the presence of Miss Shankelton. He was able to report that the place was clean and he added that "the inspection has had a salutary effect on Miss Shankelton and her staff and the disgraceful state of the lavatories reported has been corrected". Although the contents of Mr Marsh's report disclosed a shocking state of affairs at the Retta Dixon Home, it was the only such report that was tendered in evidence; hence it cannot be regarded as typical of the sanitary conditions at the Retta Dixon Home during the period that Lorna was a resident. For example, patrol officer Ryan, in his report of 17 August 1953 on the Retta Dixon Home, had described the buildings as inadequate, but he did not have anything to say adversely on matters of health and hygiene. Mrs Moy was asked in cross-examination whether she ever inspected the toilets and bathroom facilities at Retta Dixon. She replied saying: "No we didn't – weren't allowed, no". Despite this she said that she felt that she would have been welcome to inspect those facilities had she asked. 538 Following upon a direction from Mr Giese, Mr Ford, accompanied by Mrs Moy, interviewed Miss Shankelton regarding the amenities that were provided for the children who were cared for at the Retta Dixon Home. He submitted his report dated 25 November 1955. Mr Ford wrote in part: "I am inclined to feel that some of the views of this Society, particularly in regard to accepted forms of evening recreation, are very limited, and that as these children will be forced to make their own way through life within the next few years, it is very important that they should now be permitted to attend such recreational facilities as pictures, dances and social evenings and to learn to mix and conduct themselves properly with other members of the community." 539 Mr Ford commented favourably on the facilities for basketball and the library; he said that whilst there was no recreation hall, an area had been provided for the children to play such sports as "ping pong, monopoly, dominoes and such other games". He added that Miss Shankelton stated that these games were popular "in spasms". Films were provided at the Home from the Public Library or the Society's representatives in other States but Mr Ford reported that Miss Shankelton stated: "That it was the policy of her Society not to encourage children to attend the local picture theatre, as the Society members were of the opinion that they were detrimental to the children." Mr Ford expressed the contrary view in quite strong terms in his report adding: "A factor which I think is being overlooked by the society is that the majority of the inmates of the Retta Dixon Home are Wards of the Director of Native Affairs and the Director should therefore have a strong say in what liberties should be granted to the children when they approach the age when they will be able to undertake their own responsibilities." 540 Although Mr Ford, when giving his evidence, could not recall the occasion of his inspection, he reaffirmed his opinions as stated in his report. Counsel for the applicants asked Mr Ford whether he attributed the restrictive attitudes that were practised at the Retta Dixon Home to religious beliefs; Mr Ford said that he could not comment on that. Mrs Moy was shown a copy of Mr Ford's report and, notwithstanding that she was recorded as participating in the interview, she said that she did not remember the occasion. 541 Overcrowding at the Home was another matter however. In a "Review Report" dated 27 September 1951, Mr Gordon Sweeney, the District Superintendent, reported upon the Retta Dixon Home. He commented that the Home occupied a position where there was "no opportunity for expansion and their accommodation is crowded". He said that, as at 1 July 1950, there were sixty-seven children and ten adults in the home, but twelve months later, as at 30 June 1951, there were eighty-one children and twelve adults. Mr Sweeney went on to say that approval had been given by the Minister for the transfer of the Home to a new site, but as events transpired, no move took place. Mr Sweeney's report dated 25 October 1954 to the Acting Director of Native Affairs also addressed the subject of overcrowding: "All of the dormitories are overcrowded and during the wet season when windows and louvres must be closed at times of storm, the overcrowding is accentuated." The Reverend Long accepted that the conditions at the Home were overcrowded. He agreed in cross-examination that there was a need to move the site of the Retta Dixon Home because of overcrowding in the period up to 1956 and that one of the principle reasons for the need to move was the breadth of the tasks that were being undertaken at the Home. It ranged from the care of young babies through to accommodation for unmarried mothers. 542 There was also evidence from other witnesses, including some who were called by the Commonwealth, that there was overcrowding at times at Retta Dixon. I do not consider that the establishment of overcrowding can, however, lead to a situation where it would justify a finding that some person, institution, statutory officer bearer or the Commonwealth breached some duty that might have been owed to Mrs Cubillo. I have come to that decision for various reasons; in the first place, the evidence did not establish that overcrowding was an ongoing problem nor an intermittent problem that occurred too frequently. In the second place the evidence did not show that Mrs Cubillo suffered personally in any way from the overcrowding. Finally, the problem of overcrowding must be considered in light of the lack of facilities in Darwin at that time. Mrs Moy's evidence about the critical housing shortage gave some indication of the hardships that the people of Darwin had to undergo in those years. 543 Mrs Cubillo's story of her time at the Retta Dixon Home was a story of loneliness, hardship and cruelty. From the time of her arrival until the time she left, she found it difficult to find anything good to say about the Home. Her first experience was the unexpected and – to her – hurtful reaction to the Phillip Creek children by the children who were already at the Retta Dixon Home. It was a small matter, but it set the scene for other and larger events. Mrs Cubillo as a small child was upset by the colour of her hair. She and the other children who had come from Phillip Creek had blonde hair. She said that the other children at the Retta Dixon Home had dark hair and those children ridiculed the Phillip Creek children because of the colour of their hair. I accept this passage from the evidence of Mrs Cubillo. Matters of such a personal nature can be intensely embarrassing to a small child. Although one could hardly blame the Home or the staff for the behaviour of the children, one can understand how such episodes would adversely affect a person's memories of the Retta Dixon Home. In response to a question, during her evidence in chief, Sister Johnson said that she could not recollect the Phillip Creek children being, in some way, singled out at the Retta Dixon Home. However, it should be remembered that by the time she arrived at the Retta Dixon Home, the children had been there over eight years; it is not likely that they would have been the subject of any discrimination after such a lengthy period of time. Mrs Treloar had no memory of the Phillip Creek children being ridiculed about their hair. That is not to say that it did not happen; children mostly fire their barbs when adults are absent. 544 Mrs Cubillo described herself at the Retta Dixon Home as "a child wanting some affection". She said "I was never hugged in my life in the home". She acknowledged that the missionaries would hold and hug the younger children, but that only increased her personal pain. Mrs Katona's evidence was to the same effect. She described the home as "terribly clinical" and lacking in affection. Mr Anderson said that when he and the other children arrived at the Retta Dixon Home they were scared – "we just was huddled together, we were that frightened, didn't know what to do". There were no other children at the Retta Dixon Home who spoke Warumungu or Warlpiri (other than the children from Phillip Creek) and none of the missionaries spoke either of those languages. Mr Lane said that he did not remember much about the trip to Darwin, but he remembered arriving at Retta Dixon frightened. He said of the Home in his evidence in chief "I didn't like it". He also said that Lorna Nelson was at the Retta Dixon Home at the same time as he was but that he could not talk to her as she was his cousin; they were in an avoidance relationship. There was a consistent story of sadness and loneliness pervading the life of the children in Retta Dixon Home. Asked whether there was anyone in the Home to whom she could turn for comfort, Mrs Maxine Hill replied: "No, we just went away and cried on our own and – and we comforted each other." Mrs Hill said that, in her years at the Retta Dixon Home, the only person whom she considered "had a little bit of feeling for us kids would have been Mummy Dinham". 545 Mrs Hill said that she understood her date of birth to be 14 April 1947; she said that her father was a European and that her mother was part Aboriginal. She had an older brother and a younger sister. As a three-year old child she, together with her younger sister, then aged only one, was placed in the Retta Dixon Home. This would therefore have been some time in 1950. The story of Mrs Hill's early life was, in my opinion, interesting in that it showed a parent – child relationship that was materially different to the strong bonding that was said to be so typical of Aboriginal families. Her parents' marriage had broken up and, as a result, her father arranged for her and for her sister to go to the Retta Dixon Home where they stayed for the next seven years; her brother went to live with their maternal grandmother and an uncle. During those seven years at Retta Dixon, Mrs Hill's father visited the children but they never received a visit from their mother. However, when Mrs Hill was about ten, her mother, who was then living with another man, arranged for Mrs Hill to leave the Retta Dixon Home so that she could live with her mother and step-father. But, curiously, the mother did not also take the younger sister: instead, according to Mrs Hill, she arranged for her to be adopted. During her time in the Home, Mrs Hill was never in the same dormitory as Lorna and, of course, she was not in the same age group. Whilst that might have prevented her from giving specific evidence about Lorna's experiences at the Home, it did not prevent her from recounting in her evidence, her assessment of the conditions at Retta Dixon Home during the seven years that she stayed there. Making allowances for her occasional exaggerations, I feel that I can generally rely on Mrs Hill's evidence. 546 Asked if she remembered the day of her arrival at Retta Dixon, Mrs Hill said that she remembered "standing at the front gate near where Miss Shankelton had her office and crying". She was then asked whether anyone spoke to her and she replied: "Yeah, I – I saw this girl sitting on the – on the steps at the girls' dormitory, and I always remembered that girl to be Lorna – Lorna Nelson, now Cubillo." According to Mrs Hill, Lorna then came over and comforted her. 547 The children's daily routine at the Retta Dixon Home was described by Mrs Hill in uncontentious terms. They would be awakened early in the morning - around daylight. They would shower, make their beds, get ready for school and then go to breakfast. After breakfast, and before catching the bus for school, the children had to wash up the breakfast dishes and take all dirty washing down to the laundry. The boys also had their duties to perform. Their responsibility was to ensure that the yards and the grounds were clean. Jimmy Anderson described the boys' duties. They had regular jobs to do each day such as "sweeping the gutters, cleaning the sewerage, raking up the yard and lighting fires for the kitchen". Upon returning to the Home from school, the children would change into their play clothes. Some of the girls were required to iron clothes on a roster basis and, if there was other work to be done, the missionaries would allocate it to various children. The evening meal was at five o'clock and, after washing up and cleaning up, there would be more time for play before evening prayers and bed. Asked about the food at the Retta Dixon Home, Mrs Hill, who at times had a mischievous sense of humour, described it as always being "ugly"; she said that the children were always hungry and were always stealing fruit from the fruit trees in the yards. That would lead to a strapping if they were caught. 548 The evidence of Mrs Hill was that she, as a child, had virtually no personal contact with officers of the Native Affairs or Welfare Branches. She could only recall one incident when Mr Milliken chose a group of children to undergo some form of an examination. Mrs Hill said that he took the group to their school on a Saturday and sat them down "for half the day doing like a school examination on paper". When she was asked about Mr Giese, she said that she knew him by sight but that she had never talked to him; she had gone to school with his daughter and she therefore recognised him, both as a result of his visits to the school and his visits to the Retta Dixon Home. 549 The manner in which the missionaries taught the children about religion upset Mrs Cubillo. She said that religion was "first and foremost" in her upbringing at Retta Dixon Home. On Sundays, the children went to church in the morning, Sunday school in the afternoon and another church service in the evening. No recreation was permitted on Sundays. She said that she was taught that her Aboriginal rituals and traditions were "associated with the devil" and that people who practised rituals and corroborees "were doomed to the ever-lasting fire of hell". She said that those teachings disturbed her because her grandmother and others whom she loved and who had died "were possibly doomed to the ever-lasting fire". Asked to identify anyone who preached in those terms, she named Mr Streeton. Mr Streeton died on 23 February 1974. Jimmy Anderson also said that religion played a big part in their lives. He said that they had prayer meetings twice during the week. On Sundays there was church and Sunday school. On Saturdays, the boys had to work cleaning up around the Home but they neither worked nor played on Sundays as it was devoted to church. Mrs Katona, when giving her evidence, said that there was no exposure to Aboriginal culture at the Retta Dixon Home. On the contrary, the Home tried to wean the children away from it. According to Mrs Katona, the children were told that their culture was "heathen". Mr Lane said that the children had to go to church four times on Sundays as well as Bible prayer meetings on Wednesdays. Sister Johnson said that she had no memory of hearing any one telling the part Aboriginal children at the Retta Dixon Home that "Aboriginal customs and traditions are associated with the devil and people who practice corroborees would be doomed to the everlasting fire of hell". 550 Asked to describe their activities on a Saturday, Mrs Hill said that Saturday was "a big clean up day". She recalls having to use Silvo and Brasso to clean and she added, with a touch of humour, that the children's heads were also cleaned "with this white stuff in it and I reckoned it was cattle dip". Sunday was a church day all day; the children attended a morning church service followed by an afternoon service and then another service in the evening. Most of the church services were held in the dining room in the Retta Dixon Home. 551 Mr Colin MacLeod wrote a book about his experiences in the Territory as a patrol officer. He was cross-examined about some of its contents. For example, it was put to him that he had some concerns, while in the Northern Territory, about the religious zeal of missionary institutions. He was taken to a quote in his book: "…it was true that some churches practised an understanding approach on their missions, but many others did not and it was churches, not the Welfare Branch, that engaged in social engineering." 552 Mr MacLeod explained the term "social engineering" in the sense that the Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people were, in his opinion, induced by inappropriate means to embrace Christianity. Mr MacLeod was taken to a further passage in his book which stated "they engaged in social engineering by removing Aboriginal children from their families for ideological rather than pragmatic reasons". Mr MacLeod testified that that was his understanding, but he was unable to give a specific example. These were quite serious allegations against the missionary bodies but they do not reflect in any way on the Commonwealth and therefore, they may be put to one side. 553 Mr McCaffrey did not agree with the approach of the missionaries at the Retta Dixon Home to religion. In his report to the Administrator dated 3 February 1954, when Mr McCaffrey was acting as the Director of Native Affairs, he said: "The Aborigines Inland Mission places considerable emphasis on evangelical teachings at this Institution, and in my opinion this is conducted to the detriment of social adjustments which has seriously retarded the outlook of the inmates." Mrs Cubillo said that she once asked Miss Shankelton about her (Mrs Cubillo's) family. She claimed that Miss Shankelton told her to forget about them, that "… it was God's will that we came to the home … that my life was here in Retta Dixon, and that God'd take care of everything". During his cross-examination it was put to Mr Walter: "…it was a common theme in the preaching at the Retta Dixon Home that for Aboriginal people, unless baptised, that they were sentenced to the eternal fires?" Mr Walter said that such a proposition was "absolutely wrong". 554 Whilst admitting that he did not have personal knowledge on the subject, the Reverend Egerton Long said that the religious instruction at the Home, so far as he could recall, would be usually a reading or a prayer at breakfast time and a reading and a prayer at night in the dormitories. As for Sunday, there was a Sunday morning service and in addition, there was Sunday School, at which they had a number of teachers in various class groups. There was then a smaller service in the evening for the older children and some of the workers. Mr Long would not agree with the proposition that the missionaries at Retta Dixon were "more interested in spiritual or religious matters than in broader issues of Welfare or bringing up of the children". His response was: "After all it was a missionary organisation. The home offered accommodation and help, hospitality, love, care, opportunity for education, opportunity for sports, and all those things and those workers who were there gladly offered those things and at the same time they hoped that all of the – that many of the boys and girls would come to personal faith in Jesus Christ and that was their heart's desire. But at the time - same time if the children did not they still were extended the same love and care and the hospitality and everything else." 555 In somewhat less formal language, Mrs Moy agreed with the views of Mr McCaffrey, saying that she considered that the missionaries "shoved" religion down the children's throats. It was put to Mrs Moy in cross-examination that Mr McCaffrey's description of the missionaries at the Home as being "unrealistic, narrow and fanatical", fits in with what she had observed over the years that she was a welfare officer. However, Mrs Moy would not go that far. She disagreed, saying that she felt that the missionaries "were doing the best they could under the circumstances". Sometimes, the use of the vernacular can sum up, in one sentence, what might otherwise take a page; I accept Mrs Moy's turn of phrase. 556 In a memorandum dated 6 February 1956 from Mr Giese, the Director of Welfare, to the Acting Administrator Mr Giese wrote that he was concerned about the state of affairs at the Retta Dixon Home and, in particular, the inability of the staff to control adolescent girls and older school boys. He expressed the opinion that Miss Shankelton and her staff: "… could do a good job with children of up to about 10 years of age but after that age because of the narrow outlook of the staff, the nature of the programme provided for the children in the Home, the attitude of staff towards the activities of teenage children and the proximity of the Home to the Bagot Settlement, it would be advisable to make other arrangements for the 10 plus girls and boys in the Home." 557 Mr Giese's memorandum was put to the Reverend Long during the course of his cross-examination. Mr Long said that he could not agree. He acknowledged that Mr Giese was a forceful and capable man and that, although he was compelled to agree that the conditions at the Home were, to an extent, "inadequate and unsatisfactory", he maintained that the staff "just did the best they could under the conditions in which they found themselves". When asked to comment on Mr Giese's complaint that the missionaries took a very strict attitude, based on their religious beliefs, to the activities of teenage children, Mr Long responded: "Well, you need to remember that this was 40 – 40 years or so ago and standards were vastly different in those days. I dare say that if the home were in existence today things would be a great deal different. But we cannot judge the standards of 1956 by the prevailing standards of 1999." 558 The cross-examiner persisted that Mr Giese was, himself, addressing the contemporary standards of the day but the Reverend Long stood by his convictions, saying that: "… I just simply think of those years gone by when standards were very strict amongst church people and I know, in my own life and home, I think our standards then were much stricter than what they would be today." The Reverend Egerton Long is, what many people would call, a "good" man. He had about him a certain gentleness of manner but it did not hide his firm belief in his God or the righteousness of his cause. But in these answers that I have just quoted, even he had to face up to reality that the conditions that existed at the Retta Dixon Home in the late 1940s and the 1950s were in need of substantial improvement. 559 Mrs Mai Katona, who had also spent time at the Retta Dixon Home as a young child, remembered Mrs Cubillo as Lorna Nelson. Lorna was older than Mai and Mai saw her as a role model because Lorna excelled at sports and at school work. 560 Mai was born in 1942 and, in 1952, when she was ten years of age, she was taken from her home at Pine Creek. At that stage she was living with her natural mother's sister, Kitty (whom she referred to as her mother) and Kitty's husband, Andy. She said that her natural mother was working "down the road as a housekeeper" for a local Chinese family. Mrs Katona's background was quite different to that of Mrs Cubillo. She had lived in a conventional western style house in Pine Creek with Kitty and Andy; Andy worked as a railway fettler but Kitty stayed at home. Mrs Katona had four years of schooling at Pine Creek before she went to the Retta Dixon Home. She said that she came home from school one day and saw a truck parked outside her house. A man was sitting in the truck and Kitty was standing by it, obviously agitated. The man got out of the truck, took her by the hand and said that she was to go with him. Kitty tried to stop the truck by lying on the ground underneath it. At that stage of her evidence, Mrs Katona became visibly upset as she relived that traumatic moment. Counsel for Mrs Cubillo asked her: "Was there any mention of your own family while you lived at the home? --- Only to the extent that my parents didn't want me and that's why I was at Retta Dixon. And who told you that? --- We were washing one day, down in the laundry, and I indicated that I would like to go home to see my mother and father and – and Miss Dinham said they didn't want me, that's why I was at Retta Dixon. Did that match with your own experience of your mother and father? --- No, it certainly did not because I remember the nurturing that I got and the care, the – the emotional support, and that was no longer there …" 561 She said that while she was at the Retta Dixon Home she never saw her parents (I take her to mean Kitty and Andy), although she claimed that in later life her mother told her that they had visited the Home but were unable to see her. The reason for that alleged inability was not explored. Under cross-examination, it was put to Mrs Katona that it was Andy "who was involved in the decision for you to go from Pine Creek up to Darwin". Mrs Katona said she had no knowledge of any such arrangement but she was visibly upset by the proposition. 562 There were some occasions during the course of her evidence when Mrs Katona did not impress me as a witness. It became clear that she could not bring herself to say anything good about the Welfare Branch or the people who were involved in Welfare during her period at the Retta Dixon Home and thereafter. Documents were produced showing the efforts that had been made to assist her in her personal request, as a young adult, to transfer from Darwin to Sydney. If the documents accurately recorded the work of the officers of the Welfare Branch and the Administrator, then it would seem that those public servants went beyond the requirements of their duties in their endeavours to assist her. Mrs Katona would not acknowledge this to be the case. At one stage, she reacted by suggesting that they were only doing what they were required to do. In my opinion that was an unfair statement. 563 Mrs Katona left the Retta Dixon Home at about the age of fifteen without the approval of Miss Shankelton. Unbeknown to Miss Shankelton, she had managed to sit for and pass a Public Service Board examination and had obtained employment in the Public Service. She refused Miss Shankelton's entreaties to return to the Home. Mrs Katona was then, and remains now, a very resourceful person. In later life, she pursued tertiary studies and is presently employed as the manager of the Aboriginal Policy and Health Education Unit at the Menzies School of Health Research. Mrs Katona is an intelligent, well-educated person. Even she would have realised that the generosity and the benefaction of the Welfare Branch would not have extended to paying the costs of her travel from Darwin to Sydney when the reason for the travel was her personal request. But that is what the Branch did. The Reverend Long and his family also assisted her. He remembered her as a girl whom he wanted to help. He said that she stayed with his family in Sydney "for a week or so" but that he had since lost track of her. As the reason for Mrs Katona's grievances were not investigated, it remains possible that her attitude towards the Welfare Branch may have been justified. Nevertheless, her churlishness created an unfortunate impression. 564 Mrs Cubillo and the other children at the Retta Dixon Home attended a nearby public school in Darwin; she considered herself a good student and said that she excelled at basketball and athletics. However, she claimed that she deliberately failed some of her school subjects so that Miss Shankelton might not consider her an appropriate candidate for Singleton College, a Bible College that was conducted by the Aborigines Inland Mission where young people were trained as missionaries. Later in her evidence, however, Mrs Cubillo said that she only reached year eight, the first year in high school. No contemporaneous school reports or other documents have been found that relate to Mrs Cubillo's academic ability as a young girl. Mrs Katona identified Lorna as a girl with aspirations – as one "who wanted to do other things apart from being a domestic". She said that Lorna had told her that she wanted to be a nurse. It was put to Mrs Katona in cross-examination that Miss Shankelton "was supportive and expressed encouragement to Retta Dixon girls to do nursing" but Mrs Katona said "I wasn't aware of it". She was shown a letter that Miss Shankelton had written on 11 January 1952 to Mr CR Stahl, the Acting Director of Native Affairs in Darwin. The letter said in part: "It was with satisfaction that we received your intimation that the Deputy Director of Health for the Northern Territory had advised that his department will accept halfcaste girls as trainee nurses. For some time we have felt that this avenue of training and service should be open to our coloured girls. Three of our young coloured workers went to the Eastern States for such training in recent years." 565 Asked for her comment, Mrs Katona could only say that she was not aware of any encouragement to the Retta Dixon girls to do nursing. 566 Mrs Cubillo said of Miss Shankelton that she was a person "I respected". At a different stage of her cross-examination she repeated that sentiment saying of her "I had high regards of this lady". Indeed Mrs Cubillo acknowledged that she visited Miss Shankelton on a few occasions after she (Mrs Cubillo) had left the Home. She also sent Miss Shankelton Christmas cards with money. Miss Shankelton had a nick-name "Lailee". Mrs Cubillo said that she knew of this name but that it was not used in her time at the Retta Dixon Home. Speaking of the nick-name, she said: "I referred to her as Miss Shankelton; that (ie Lailie) was an affectionate name after my time." 567 I am satisfied that Mrs Cubillo had, and continues to have, a measure of respect – and perhaps, affection – for Miss Shankelton. This became apparent when she was being questioned about Miss Shankelton's attempts to persuade her to study at the Singleton Bible College. She said that Miss Shankelton had asked her whether "the Lord had spoken to me about going to the college". Mrs Cubillo said that she replied "no, he hasn't". Asked whether Miss Shankelton had made any response, Mrs Cubillo gave the following reply: "Well, I saw a stricken look on her face, I attempted to walk away, almost went back because I hurt her. I wanted to go back and say sorry, and change my mind, but I forced myself to walk away." 568 Mrs Katona said that she did not get on well with Miss Shankelton. According to her, their relationship was one of "antagonism". Under cross-examination a slightly different picture emerged. She agreed that at times she would refer to and call Miss Shankelton "Lailee" but she denied that it was a term of endearment. She said that it derived from the inability of the young children to say the word "lady". Notwithstanding these assertions, she acknowledged that, after leaving the Retta Dixon Home, she corresponded with Miss Shankelton on occasions. However, she then reverted to her claim that her relationship with Miss Shankelton was one of antagonism. A letter was put to Mrs Katona in cross-examination. She acknowledged that she had written it to Miss Shankelton and had signed it: "Hoping to hear from you soon. I remain with warmest love, May." 569 Asked to explain how it could be that she would write a letter to Miss Shankelton in such affectionate terms, yet maintain that their relationship was one of antagonism, Mrs Katona gave a long rambling answer that was difficult to comprehend. In part she said that she had no one else to refer to and in part she said that she wanted to join the Air Force. It would seem that she was saying that she thought her chances of obtaining Miss Shankelton's support as a referee would be improved if she couched her letter in endearing terms. 570 Asked what relationship she had with Miss Shankelton, Mrs Hill replied: "Well, not much of a relationship at all." She went on to add that Miss Shankelton was the Superintendent of the Home but that the children had dormitory missionaries who mainly looked after them. Mrs Hill had an attitude towards the Retta Dixon Home that was markedly different to Mrs Cubillo. Whilst she had some ill-feelings about the Home, she was prepared to add: "The thing I loved about Retta Dixon was the family that I lived with, the boys and girls. That was my only family." 571 In later life, Mrs Hill's baby son was placed in the Retta Dixon Home. She agreed to this happening rather than seeing him adopted. She said that she had some affection for Mummy Dinham even though she strapped her and she also said that she had, in the past, gone back to Retta Dixon to attend Bible meetings with Miss Shankelton. 572 Mr Jimmy Anderson's memories of Retta Dixon were not as bitter as those of Mrs Cubillo and Mrs Katona. That is not to say, however, that he enjoyed his time there. He told, for example of the one occasion only when he saw a member of his family whilst he was at the Retta Dixon Home; that was when his older brother visited him. (Under cross-examination however, Mr Anderson said that his brother visited him two or three times at intervals of two to three years). The brother was then living at Phillip Creek and, according to Mr Anderson, he could not visit as a matter of course without getting permission from the Welfare Branch and because of financial constraints. During the course of his cross-examination, it was put to Mr Anderson that his brother knew where to find him at the Retta Dixon Home and Mr Anderson agreed. Even so, if Mr Anderson's evidence is to be accepted, it would seem that this meeting was not officially sanctioned. His brother was not permitted within the grounds of the Home; instead a message was passed to Mr Anderson and the brothers had to meet secretively in the bushes outside Retta Dixon. Mr Anderson acknowledged that he saw the parents of other children visiting them at the Retta Dixon Home although he said that it did not happen often. He said that he could not remember whether children went home during their school holidays. 573 Mr Anderson ran away from the Home several times, but on each occasion he was brought back , as he said, "by the Welfare". On one occasion, when Mr Anderson and some others ran away from the Home, he was brought before Mr Giese. Mr Anderson said that Mr Giese "put us through some tests and got us first jobs we ever had". Mr Anderson was taken on as an apprentice panel beater. At that point in time, he was still living at the Retta Dixon Home, aged about sixteen or seventeen. The vocational testing that Mr Geise organised for Mr Anderson also involved Mr Milliken. The subject of Mr Anderson's employment was discussed in Mrs Moy's report to the Director of Welfare, dated 21 February 1956. She wrote that, on 13 February 1956, Ms Dinham, the Acting Superintendent of the Retta Dixon Home, had reported to Mrs Moy that some boys had left the Retta Dixon Home without obtaining permission from the Director of Welfare. One of those was Jimmy Anderson – another was Willy Lane. The report stated that he and the other boys had been earlier admonished by Ms Dinham on the preceding Friday for refusing to do their chores. The report concluded with the comment that Jimmy Anderson and one of the other boys had been returned to the Retta Dixon Home until other accommodation could be obtained for them. A week or so later, on 22 February 1956, Mrs Moy reported that the Commonwealth Employment Bureau had been able to place Jimmy Anderson in employment, working as a panel beater with a business house in Winnellie. In that report, Mrs Moy had also stated that Mr Milliken had conducted vocational guidance tests earlier in the month on 7 and 8 February for Jimmy Anderson, Willy Lane and another boy, Roger Roman. It was this test that led to Mr Anderson's apprenticeship. The two other boys from Retta Dixon Home, who were tested at the same time, were also placed in positions as a result of the testing. 574 Mr Anderson duly left Retta Dixon Home when he obtained his apprenticeship. It also transpired that he was a very good footballer – good enough to play league football for the West Perth Football Club along with another boy from the Retta Dixon Home, Bill Dempsey. That was in about 1959. Prior to playing senior football, Mr Anderson had played with a local Darwin team. As he acknowledged, that meant that he played on a Saturday afternoon and trained twice weekly on Tuesdays and Thursdays. At some stage during his football career, he was still an inmate at the Retta Dixon Home but he was not restricted from attending his training or from playing on Saturdays. 575 After Mr Anderson left the Retta Dixon Home, he hitch-hiked down the Stuart Highway to Phillip Creek, Seven Mile Creek and Tennant Creek looking for his family; but he was unsuccessful. He found out later that they had all shifted to a new Settlement at Warrabri, but, at that time, he did not know where Warrabri was. Years later he found his mother by accident. About twenty years ago he was in Katherine when he saw the Warrabri bus pull up on the other side of the road. He walked across the road and called out, identifying himself by his Aboriginal name. He said there was: "a big scream and shout and I didn't know what was going on. I found out that my mother was on the bus. She came out, but I couldn't communicate with her. She couldn't speak a word of English." He, by then, had forgotten his language. As he said, he lost his language and he lost his culture. His mother is now dead. He never saw her again but he did not explain why this was the case. It was another indictment on the policy of removing young children from their mothers without retaining some means of contact between mother and child. 576 Asked to describe his time at the Retta Dixon Home Mr Anderson said: "We couldn't go anywhere, wasn't allowed anywhere, we had no parents to visit us, we had no close relatives living around there, and a lot of time it was hard, lot of time it was nice – nice when you made it yourself …" It was put to Mr Anderson that, at one stage, he was involved in an altercation with Ms Dinham who, at the time, was the Acting Superintendent of the Home. Mr Anderson denied this and speaking of Ms Dinham with obvious feeling, he said: "She's one woman a lot of those boys worshiped and loved and still love although she passed away, but which she has never said a bad word against us or ever tried to kick us out of the Retta Dixon." His answer showed that some affection was generated at Retta Dixon. Mr Anderson acknowledged that he kept in touch with Miss Shankelton after he left the Retta Dixon Home. He said that he "classed her as a mother". Asked in cross-examination whether he had any difficulty in speaking to Miss Shankelton, Mr Anderson said that he did not. Mr Anderson acknowledged that his three children were also placed in the Retta Dixon Home for a short period of time. This resulted from a domestic dispute but he denied that he was the party responsible for placing the children in the Home. He said that it was his wife. Accepting this assertion as accurate, it still remains significant that he did not object to his children being placed in the Retta Dixon Home. 577 Mr Anderson said that he attended the Going Home Conference (which took place in October 1994). However, he could not remember the year and it was his recollection that he did not attend all of the sessions. He said that he did not talk to people at the Conference about what had happened to him at Phillip Creek or at Retta Dixon. Asked to explain why that was so, he said that everything was "very personal to me". 578 Mr Anderson tired visibly under cross-examination and became irritable. He resorted, on many occasions, to saying that he could not remember various events when they were put to him. Whilst I do not think that he was being deliberately evasive, I do feel that he lost his concentration. For example, early in his examination in chief, he was quick to say that there were a total of fifteen or sixteen children on the truck when it left Phillip Creek for Darwin. Under cross-examination he was asked in great detail to describe the events leading up to the removal on the truck. He could not remember the time of the day – he could not remember who asked him to get on to the truck. He was then asked: "Do you remember how many got on the truck?" His answer, which followed a pattern of earlier answers, was: "I don't remember that." 579 An example of Mr Anderson's truculence during the course of cross-examination appears at pp 1464-1465: "How many years were you at Retta Dixon? --- About 15 or 16 years. About 15 or 16 years; is that right? --- About that, I don't remember. Well, you didn't leave – go there until 1947 and I thought you were agreeing with me that it was about 1956 that you left or thereabouts. Am I wrong about that? --- I don't remember. That would only be a period of 9 years; would that be right? --- I don't remember. You left when you were 16, 17 years old; you arrived there when you were about 8 years old, something like that?--- I don't remember. Very different to 15 or 16 years? --- I don't remember." 580 In many cases, this sort of reaction would cast serious doubts on a witness' credibility. However, I do not think that I should use this irrational behaviour on Mr Anderson's part as a ground to disregard his evidence. I am prepared in his case, to accept it as a reaction to tiredness, irritability and the pressure of cross-examination. In some respects his evidence was uncontentious, in other respects it was corroborative of what Mrs Cubillo had said. Then again, there were matters in which his evidence was at odds with that of Mrs Cubillo (such as his relationship with Miss Shankelton) but I have no reason to doubt the accuracy of that evidence. A relationship between two people is personal. The fact that he had fond memories of Miss Shankelton and Ms Dinham does not mean that all children would have had identical relationships. 581 Mr Willy Lane described harsh floggings at the hands of the male missionaries, Mr Matthews, Mr Pattemore and Mr Walter. He said he saw other children being punished: "We all got flogged". Later he increased his description, saying: "We all got hidings from all of the missionaries that were there, but the main flogging we used to get was by the three that I've mentioned." He claimed that the level of corporal punishment was so severe that the resultant marks on his body caused his schoolteacher to call the police on two or three occasions. However, that subject was not explored in any further depth. 582 Mr Lane complained about the brutality of Mr Walter. He recounted two incidents, one concerning a broken cot and another that dealt with an episode when some boys ran away. These incidents were not put to Mr Walter in cross-examination. I do not intend therefore to refer to them. Mrs Maxine Hill also made a particularly serious allegation about Mr Walter's behaviour which, if true, might have amounted to indecent assault on another young girl. That allegation was not put to him in cross-examination and, for that reason, I will not mention it further. 583 It was Mr Lane's evidence that Mr Pattemore "kicked him out" of the Retta Dixon Home along with some other boys. He said that this occurred at a point of time after he had left school. Why this should have happened is not clear. Furthermore, it was contradicted by the contents of Mrs Moy's report dated 21 February 1956, to the Director of Welfare. The report confirmed that the boys had been interviewed by Mr Giese and that Willy Lane had been granted permission to stay with Mr and Mrs Peter Pang Quee. That report was put to Mr Lane in cross-examination and he did not deny its contents so far as they applied to him. A week or so later, on 22 February 1956, Mrs Moy reported to the Director of Welfare that the Commonwealth Employment Bureau had been able to place Willy Lane in employment, greasing with a Darwin firm, Johnston Motors. However, Mr Lane said in evidence that Mrs Moy of the Welfare Department "tried to send me back to Retta Dixon Home, and I told her I don't want to go back there". He added that he told her of the floggings that he used to get and that he was "kicked out" for no reason. 584 Mr Lane said that after he left school "I went in and approached that Johnston Motors for a job on my own accord for the job". He made this assertion notwithstanding that the cross-examiner had first given him the opportunity of reading, Mrs Moy's report of 22 February 1956. It said in part that William Lane (and also the witness Jimmy Anderson) and another boy from Retta Dixon had been given vocational tests by Mr Milliken. The memorandum continued that the results of the tests had been conveyed to the Commonwealth Employment Bureau and that it had been able to place each of the three boys in employment. I accept the contents of this report in preference to Mr Lane's memory that he obtained his employment unaided. He remained adamant that the Commonwealth had nothing whatsoever to do with him getting the job; he would not allow for a proposition that he had not applied for the job personally but at the instigation of the Employment Office. He agreed that he and others had attended vocational tests but claimed that they were "most probably to send us to go as a stockhand out in the bush". 585 Under cross-examination Mr Lane became, first, defensive, then truculent. He has instituted proceedings in the High Court claiming compensation against the Commonwealth, allegedly because he is a member of "the Stolen Generation". That proposition was put to him and he agreed with it. However, when a copy of the Writ was put to him he denied that he had ever seen it – he claimed that he did not know that it had been issued and he claimed that he had never given instructions for its issue. Mr Lane is not illiterate; he showed himself in the witness box as one who has a reasonable comprehension of general matters. When asked his occupation he stated that he worked as an Essential Services Officer at the Belyuen Community. Either a legal practitioner has proceeded to issue a Writ out of the High Court in Mr Lane's name without instructions (which I have great difficulty in accepting) or Mr Lane was wrong in the answers that he gave in cross-examination. Asked whether he had attended the Going Home Conference, Mr Lane said: "No". However, when a photograph was produced and it was put to him that it was a photo of him at the Conference he was forced to agree. 586 Towards the end of his cross-examination, Mr Lane was asked whether his evidence was that he had bad memories of the Retta Dixon Home. He answered this question openly and convincingly. He said: "I had bad memories and I had good memories, fond memories of Retta Dixon Home too." 587 Mr Lane's two children were also placed in the Retta Dixon Home for a year or two. But he said it was against his will and that his wife did it "just to hurt my feelings". Mr Lane was not questioned about his attitude towards Miss Shankelton but I note that on one occasion, when referring to her in an answer, he called her Lailee, but then corrected himself and called her Miss Shankelton. 588 Mrs Cubillo claimed that both Ms Dinham and Ms Spohn had punished her by hitting her with a strap. So also did Mrs Maxine Hill. Mrs Cubillo said that at the Retta Dixon Home the children were not permitted to speak their native tongue. She said: "we had our language flogged out of us." Mr Anderson confirmed Mrs Cubillo's evidence: he also said that the children were punished if they spoke their Aboriginal languages. They were either given the strap or sent to their rooms. Mr Lane said that the children were made to speak English "otherwise we'd be getting a hiding". Mrs Hill's first language was Malak Makak; she was not able to maintain her language at Retta Dixon. In her particular circumstances, that was not unusual because none of the other children or staff spoke that language. Sister Johnson was not aware of any prohibition on the children speaking their native tongues and she described as "laughable" the proposition that Miss Shankelton or Ms Dinham or Ms Spohn belted the younger children with a strap for speaking their native language. Although Mrs Treloar did not think that the Home had a policy about the children not speaking their traditional language, she did believe that it was discouraged. Mrs Marjorie Harris said that she had never heard of children being punished for speaking their own language. 589 It was Mrs Cubillo's evidence that as a small child at the Retta Dixon Home she was "belted around the legs by female missionaries". She said that, as she grew older, Miss Shankelton sent her to one of the male missionaries for punishment. She claimed that children were "flogged" for "trivial things, being late for tea and not finishing our chores on time". During the course of her cross-examination, it was put to Mrs Cubillo, and she agreed, that she had earlier identified Ms Dinham and Ms Spohn as two female missionaries at the Retta Dixon Home who had administered corporal punishment to her. The cross-examiner then put to her: "They were the only female missionaries who, you say, strapped you?" Mrs Cubillo's subsequent answers were difficult to evaluate: "That was when I first arrived in the home and – and couldn't speak English. Right. But they were the only female missionaries who, you say, strapped you? --- Only to stop me from talking my language. Right. Perhaps I'll rephrase it. Were there any other female missionaries who strapped you? --- I was only flogged by the male missionaries after that. And can we just identify which male missionaries do you remember? --- Mr Stretton, Mr Walter. They're the only male missionaries you remember? --- They're the ones who flogged me with the strap. Right. So they're the only males who flogged you? --- That's right." I take this passage to mean that neither Ms Dinham nor Ms Spohn administered corporal punishment to Lorna regularly or routinely during her stay at the Retta Dixon Home but that they only did so in her early days to break her of the habit of using her native tongue. This passage in Mrs Cubillo's evidence was supported by Mrs Katona, but not with the same emphasis. According to Mrs Katona, the children at Retta Dixon were told not to use their native languages. She said that if they were caught speaking their own language they would be punished: "I was either smacked or locked up in the room for disobeying orders." 590 It is one thing for the missionaries to insist that the children speak English and to smack them or lock them in their rooms if they were disobedient and spoke their mother tongue. It is an entirely different matter to "flog" a child for disobedience of this nature. When this subject of corporal punishment was revisited in cross-examination, Mrs Cubillo added Miss Shankelton to the list of those who had "flogged" her: "I had understood, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I had understood your evidence to be that when you were younger, at Retta Dixon, it was those two female missionaries who flogged you? --- Three female. Who is the third? --- I told you their names, Mrs Hollingworth. Who is the third one? --- Ms Shankelton, Ms Spohn and Ms Dinham." 591 The subject of female missionaries administering corporal punishment had earlier been discussed and Mrs Cubillo had only identified Ms Dinham and Ms Spohn. Miss Shankelton had been discussed but Mrs Cubillo had not mentioned her as one who had administered corporal punishment. Miss Shankelton, Ms Dinham and Ms Spohn, the missionaries who Mrs Cubillo said had strapped her around the legs and told her to speak English are all dead and cannot answer or explain these charges. 592 I am satisfied that discipline at the Retta Dixon Home was, on today's standards, very severe. Mrs Hill's evidence was: "We got the strap or we had to go to bed without tea or we were put in the kitchen to do dishes and we got punished for all sorts of things, just breaking any little rule in the home, like, if we were caught chewing chewing gum, for instance, that was banned from the home or reading comics, if we said shut-up to another kid. All those little things we were punished for." 593 Mrs Cubillo said that when she arrived at Retta Dixon, the children who were already there were all speaking English. She went on to agree, in her cross-examination, with a proposition that at the time of her arrival she did not speak any English. She said: "That's right. So I only hung around people who I came with because I conversed with those children in my own language." However, the cross-examiner did not let the matter rest there. She forced a concession out of Mrs Cubillo that in the two years or so preceding her being taken to the Retta Dixon Home, she had attended school at Phillip Creek where she was taught – in English – by Mr Colley. Even if the schooling was limited to an hour a day (as Mrs Cubillo claimed in evidence), she must have picked up more than a smattering of the English language in that period of two years. In coming to that conclusion, I have not lost sight of the fact that she said and I accept, that, at Phillip Creek, she would have spoken her native tongue to her family and friends out of school hours. It was put to Mrs Cubillo that she ceased to use her traditional language at the Retta Dixon Home as a matter of necessity because everyone spoke English. Mrs Cubillo responded angrily: "Miss Hollingworth, I was flogged. I was flogged. Our language was flogged out of us. I know what happened to me." I regard this passage of her evidence as another example of subconscious reconstruction. In the hurt and suffering that Retta Dixon came to represent, nothing about it was good: nothing was a cause for happy memories. Undoubtedly, there were incidents when she spoke her native tongue and she was punished for being disobedient. However, out of such incidents, there has escalated the vitriol that was evident in her last answer. I am satisfied that the missionaries discouraged the children from speaking their native tongue but I cannot find why this was so. One possibility is that there was a specific and conscious decision to stop the children speaking their first language but a more likely reason was one of practicality: that is, the children had to learn English so that there could be communication, by means of a common language, between the children and between the children and the staff of the mission. I am prepared to accept that the children were punished for speaking their native tongue; however, I am not prepared to apply the word "flogged" as being descriptive of that punishment. 594 The evidence that the Commonwealth called about life at Retta Dixon and the conditions of the Home was in marked contrast to the case for Mrs Cubillo. The first of the Commonwealth's witnesses was Mrs Ruby Matthews. Her mother was an Aboriginal and her father, an Englishman, had run the local store at Ti-Tree. She said that the missionaries had told her that her birthday was 5 April 1935. Mrs Matthews described her childhood as "horrible". She claimed that her mother never "showed love" for her, never hugged her or gave her any affection. She said that she was "unwanted" by her mother because she was a half-caste – that she still carries the scar on her head from the blow that her mother gave her with a firestick – and that she had witnessed Aboriginal mothers kill their unwanted half-caste babies. 595 Mrs Matthews told of the day when she was taken away by a police officer or a welfare officer. She said that she was about six years of age at the time. She did not know whether this had been arranged by her father, but she said that her father used to say to her: "You'll be going away soon. One day you'll have to go away." Mrs Matthews said that she was first taken to Alice Springs and then to Balaklava in South Australia. From Balaklava, she and some other children were moved to "Saints" and there she met Miss Shankelton, Ms Spohn and some other missionaries. 596 Mrs Matthews said that Miss Shankelton, who she knew as Lailee, "treated us very well" and Ms Spohn "was lovely too". It was put to her that Mrs Cubillo had described Miss Shankelton as a person who was not approachable, but she insisted "she was a beautiful lady, that's all I can say". Sometime after the end of the Second World War, the part Aboriginal children from "Saints" were taken to Darwin to the Bagot Compound – it later came to be known as the Retta Dixon Home. When Mrs Matthews was asked to describe her dormitory, she said it was "lovely" adding "very comfortable, we had beds and mattresses and mosquito nets. It was beautiful". She said that the older girls slept in the gaol-house. Her description of the gaol-house (which she said was locked for the girls' protection) was as follows: "It was a nice clean little place and we were locked up every night at about 9 o'clock. And we enjoyed the place. We played and laughed in there. The floors were that shiny we were swirling around on the floors. It was happy place. I enjoyed the times there. What did you - where did you go to the toilet when you were at the gaol house? --- We had our own toilet in the room. It was all made out of cement and iron bars, but it was nice. And approximately how many girls were in the gaol house room when you were there? --- I think there was about six of us, six or seven." Mrs Matthews, whose recollection was that the gaol-house had a "pull-chain toilet", became positively enthusiastic when describing the quality of the toilet: it was never dirty nor unserviceable; it was spotless; never filthy and it had no drainage problems. That was not a description that was universally adopted by all witnesses, but Mrs Katona, when describing the dormitories and the living conditions at the Retta Dixon Home, did say that "they were extremely clean. [Y]ou could eat off the floor". She also said that the school children were "extremely neat and clean". 597 Sister Johnson knew that the girls' dormitory was locked but she did not know whether it was locked from the inside or from the outside. She did however believe that Ms Spohn slept in the dormitory or had a room in the dormitory in which she slept. Mrs Hill said that their dormitory door was padlocked at night. There was a pan for the children that was located in the dormitory but otherwise they had to call out for a dormitory mistress to escort them to the toilet. In any event, Sister Johnson was firm in her evidence that the door was locked for security reasons and principally because of the proximity of the Bagot Reserve. She, like other witnesses, was concerned about the proximity of the Bagot Reserve. As Sister Johnson pointed out, there was only a fence separating it from the Retta Dixon Home and there was "a lot of drinking and gambling on the Reserve". Mr Jimmy Anderson also said that whilst he was at the Retta Dixon Home, the children were not allowed to talk to the full blood Aboriginal people who were living on the Bagot Reserve. If this rule was breached the offender would be punished. Sister Johnson said that she could remember the girls using the term the "the gaol house" but she could not recall the actual place. 598 Mrs Matthews continued her praises for the missionaries. Speaking of the people at Retta Dixon she said: "They were beautiful people, they loved us, they was very compassionate towards us." She said that when the girls had problems, the missionaries "put their arms around us, kissed us, spoke lovingly and kindly to us and I cannot rubbish any of them, they were exceptionally good". Mrs Matthews agreed in cross-examination that the staff at Retta Dixon did not allow the children to mix with anyone outside the Home but this in no way diminished her happy memories of the Home. Mrs Matthews was and is, in many respects, a very fortunate person. Where some would find loneliness, harshness and cruelty, she was and is able to find goodness and happiness in everyone and everything. She talked of the missionaries teaching the girls how to cook, wash and iron and when asked to explain why "those were good things" her answer revealed her simple contentment: "Well, we had to face the world one day and they was teaching us to do this and that, how to wash and iron, how to keep the house clean, marks on the walls and things like that, they taught us how to be clean, how to dress up and how to look after babies. We had 32 babies in that nursery and we did the rounds by caring for all those babies." Mrs Matthews agreed in cross-examination that she knew from the age of twelve that the missionaries were training her to do domestic work. 599 The subject of her childhood memories was explored in cross-examination and the following passage in the evidence gives some indication of how Mrs Matthews remembered her life as a child: "And there's been a great deal of sadness in your life since you left Retta Dixon, hasn't there? --- Yes. Retta Dixon Home was a beautiful home for kids like us. Retta Dixon Home, really if you look back on it, you would say to the judge was the best part of your life? --- It was, your Honour. Because of what you've described in being brought up by your mother? --- In a humpy with dogs and filth. Because of that …? --- Yes. … what you've described with your mother and because of the sadness in your life since you left Retta Dixon Home; is that correct? --- I was happy at the Retta Dixon Home, but I wasn't happy with my mother. Is that what you mean? 600 Mrs Matthews agreed that the missionaries administered corporal punishment but her description was "two or three" smacks with a stick: "we weren't flogged if that's what you mean". She said that she never saw Ms Dinham (whom she regarded highly) nor Ms Spohn hit a child. She had happy memories of all the native missionaries and of "Pop" Streeton, one of the male missionaries, who taught her to drive a car. She said that he was too kind to administer corporal punishment. The only one of whom she spoke ill was a man called Howard. She described him as "cruel". She recounted an event when he allegedly flogged two boys. She said that the children reported him to Miss Shankelton and that the missionaries "outed" him. 601 Mrs Matthews' description of the children's daily chores and their routine was consistent with other witnesses. She had no complaints about the children's clothing but was firm in her recollection that not all of the children had shoes to wear to school. She also said that they had church services on Sundays in the morning and evening but she said that there were no restrictions on playing games on a Sunday. When she was asked about going home during school holidays, Mrs Matthews replied, sadly: "What home, dear? What home? I never went near my mother." 602 Mrs Matthews remembered Lorna Nelson and the arrival of the Phillip Creek children. She said that they were not singled out in any way; they were all part of a bond. She was told that Mrs Cubillo had said that she had been regularly thrashed and belted; her answer was "well, I didn't see it". Mrs Matthews said that she knew in advance about the arrival of the Phillip Creek children. The missionaries had said that more children were coming "and they were preparing beds and things … and the government supplied all that". 603 I am quite satisfied that Mrs Matthews was a witness of truth; she gave her evidence truthfully as she remembered her days at Retta Dixon Home. Her evidence is, of course, diametrically opposed to that of Mrs Cubillo, but that is no cause to label one of them wrong or mistaken. One only has to recall his or her personal childhood memories to realise that friends of the same age often have very different recollections of the same times and the same events. One of the best examples of this dichotomy is boarding school: some children were and are very happy in boarding school: some of their classmates, doing the same things, working under the same teachers, are miserable and pining for their homes and families. 604 Mrs Marjorie Harris gave evidence on behalf of the Commonwealth. She said that she was born in 1930 on Mount Swan Station, east of Alice Springs. Her mother was a full blood Aboriginal, Maudie Elumbuk, a member of the Aranda tribal group. She said that her father was a European man whose name was Jack McNamee. At the time of her relationship with Jack McNamee, Maudie was married to an elderly Aboriginal man from Utopia Station by whom she had had two children, Bill and Kitty. In response to a question during her evidence in chief, Mrs Harris said that her mother and Mr McNamee had a second child, but, so she said, "he was put down by my mother while he was a baby". A third child, Molly, lived however. It was Mrs Harris' evidence: "Well, my mother didn't want me when I was born but afterwards – well, she wanted to do away with me but my grandmother saved me." 605 Mrs Harris' evidence that her mother wanted to kill her was the subject of an objection by counsel for the applicants, Mr Dreyfus. As both applicants had pursued a case that they had enjoyed happy childhood lives in their Aboriginal communities where part Aboriginal children were accepted equally with full blood children, it did not suit them to have evidence presented to the Court that in some Aboriginal communities there was an attitude of violence and death towards part Aboriginal children. Whilst Mrs Harris' evidence could not be received as evidence that her mother or her step father had a state of mind that was directed towards her death, she could give evidence of her own state of mind. It was upon that basis that I permitted her to give her evidence. Whether or not the source of her information was correct, the fact remained that Mrs Harris grew up believing that her mother wanted to kill her. She also believed that, in an attempt to kill her, her mother struck her with a stick, damaging one of her eyes. 606 Her mother's attitude towards her and the relationship with her changed for the better over the years, although it was not clear from Mrs Harris' evidence when this happened or what caused it. She said that when a child is born "that's when they do away with you" but later, if the child is not killed at birth, "they grow up and they bred, (sic) of course they love you". Suffice to say, she recounted incidents of maternal affection and concern including a reference to her mother hiding her away when a policeman was in the vicinity. Despite her history of violence, she was still prepared to agree to the proposition that was put to her in cross-examination that her childhood was a "happy one". 607 It was Mrs Harris' evidence that as she grew up in her mother's community, she was not allowed to participate in traditional life: "… you have to be initiated into the tribe before you are told too many things about Aboriginal - what is the word, can I say - Aboriginal - the main things in Aboriginal things. You know, you only - because you are a woman even full-blood, we're only allowed to go so far and was only taught very little. It was men who held the rein. The women weren't, you know, they had their area - women had their own area where they - you know, they can do their corroboree and things like that women business, not that I was told but that's what I heard them say, but I was never involved in anything like that." Rather, it was her evidence that she was encouraged to go to school: " … but everybody else said I ought - I ought to be away because my sister had been taken away earlier and they said I should go away to my father's people and learn to read and write. They always told me that." 608 Mrs Harris said that she was about seven years of age when her mother married again; her new husband was a tribal man by the name of Johnny Crow. Mrs Harris said that he ill-treated her and that, as a result, she spent much of her time away from her mother and with relatives. Mrs Harris said that she was about thirteen years of age when she was taken from her Aboriginal community by a police officer. That would have been in about 1943. 609 Her evidence about her departure was difficult to follow save that it was clear that she was then being cared for by some relatives who somehow participated in arranging for her to leave with the police officer. As for herself, she said she was quite happy to go with him. Ultimately, she ended up at the Bungalow in Alice Springs with her Aunt Emily who had accompanied her. After spending about three months at the Bungalow, Mrs Harris said that she was moved, along with others, to Balaklava in South Australia. One of those others was the witness Mrs Ruby Matthews whilst the remainder were war-time evacuees from Darwin. 610 Initially Mrs Harris was told that she was too old for school, but, because, as she said, of her "kicking up a row" the decision was changed and she was moved to "Saints" to start her school life. Asked "who was running Saints?" Mrs Harris replied: "Miss Shankelton, Lailee as we lovingly call her." Indeed, Mrs Harris, like Ruby Matthews, spoke of all the missionaries in glowing terms. It was her evidence that neither Miss Shankelton, Mummy Dinham nor Ms Spohn – all of whom were at "Saints" in the latter years of the War – ever smacked any of the children. She said of them: "They were beautiful people; … they couldn't do enough for us." 611 Mrs Harris went from "Saints" to the Bible College at Singleton to further her education; she stayed there three years before being posted to Darwin in 1949. Initially, she spent a few days at the Retta Dixon Home, but her substantive posting was to the Berrimah Native Settlement for full blood Aboriginals where she stayed until 1950 when the Settlement was transferred to Bagot Reserve. During this period, Mrs Harris said that she was a regular visitor to the Retta Dixon Home. She spoke of Retta Dixon Home in glowing terms, going so far as to describe it as "Five Star". That might, to some, be classified as an exaggeration, but to others, used to different standards, it might have been accurate. Mrs Harris also claimed that the children were dressed "beautifully" and that there were no restrictions on visits from parents or on the children returning home on holidays. 612 Mrs Harris said that she remembered the children from Phillip Creek. According to her (but this would have been in 1949 at the earliest) there were no babies in the group. She said that the youngest would have been about four. She said that she remembered Lorna Nelson and she disagreed that the Phillip Creek children kept to themselves. Rather, she said "it was just one whole family". 613 In 1952, with the assistance of Mr Moy, the Director of Native Affairs, Mrs Harris located her mother and spent four months with her and members of her family. She then returned to Darwin and in the following year she married an Aboriginal man against the wishes of her friends, the Native Affairs Branch and the mission. Her evidence about how she came to marry her husband is an interesting insight into the culture of the day. At that time, she was, so she said, as a part Aboriginal person, prohibited from marrying an Aboriginal. She had asked for permission to marry: her future husband had also asked but they were both refused. It was only when the Native Affairs Branch accepted that she was pregnant that permission was finally granted. As she said, in agreeing to a proposition that was put to her in cross-examination, the Native Affairs Branch not only controlled the movements of part Aboriginal people, it also controlled their plans to marry. Mrs Harris left the mission before she married, but she continued to stay in contact after her marriage with the missionaries until the Retta Dixon Home was finally closed. 614 I am satisfied that Mrs Harris gave her evidence truthfully and to the best of her ability. However, I am also satisfied that she has unknowingly gilded the lily in recounting her memories of the Retta Dixon Home. Just as Mrs Cubillo has, over the years, allowed herself to develop bad memories about the Home, so has Mrs Harris allowed herself the pleasure of developing and exaggerating happy memories. 615 Sister Jean Johnson gave evidence that she and her husband first heard about the Retta Dixon Home at a talk at their church; the audience was told that the Home needed a maintenance man. She and her husband decided that he should apply to the Aborigines Inland Mission for the position. They were interviewed by the then Director, the Reverend Egerton Long and were subsequently appointed support workers at the Home in January 1956. While Mr Johnson received a salary for his work, neither of them received a wage in respect of the spiritual work and counselling work that they performed "as cottage parents". They remained at the Home for about three years and, during that time, Miss Shankelton was in charge. Sister Johnson's husband died in February 1975; thereafter, she completed some studies in music and, later again, was professed as a Nun in the Anglican Church on 1 May 1986. 616 Sister Johnson knew nothing of the Welfare Branch. She thought that the Home "was entirely run by the AIM". She was not aware of visits by welfare officers to the Retta Dixon Home in the three year period that she and her husband were there. Sister Johnson was asked to give her observations on the way in which Miss Shankelton ran the Home. She answered by saying that "she did it very well"; she considered that Miss Shankelton was efficient; she added: "The children were – were neatly dressed and – and they were loved and they were fed well as far as I know. Just I think she ran it very well. What else can I say?" 617 Sister Johnson considered that Miss Shankelton had a very good relationship with the children and she added that the children seemed to return her love. She, like other witnesses, also agreed that everybody, including the children referred to Miss Shankelton as "Lailee". Sister Johnson was asked to give her impressions of other members of the staff and their relationship with the children. She first mentioned Ms Dinham, saying that she was called Mummy Dinham by the children. She said that Ms Dinham related to the children "like a mother" and that she loved them. She added "all the missionaries loved the children. What else would bring them to a place like this"? I must say that as I heard her say that there was a ring of truth and reality about the statement. She agreed that there were great difficulties in recruiting staff for the missions. Her answer conveyed an idea of the difficulties that were faced: "It was very difficult because only people as mad as Christians who cared and wanted to help who'd come to Darwin to work in – in the children's home at that time under those circumstances. I've said that the – the buildings were Sydney Williams huts, you know, they – it was fairly primitive. I don't even remember having a fan when we were there, and – and people wouldn't come." 618 Whereas Ms Dinham looked after the toddlers, Ms Spohn looked after the older girls. Sister Johnson described her as affectionate to the girls but a more reserved person. Miss Jocelyn Gadd looked after the younger school age girls. She also was described by Sister Johnson as "very loving and affectionate". Sister Johnson was asked her opinion on the allegation that "children were regularly flogged or beaten for minor misdemeanours". She said that she found it "very difficult to believe". She added that Miss Shankelton in particular was "very soft; far too soft at times". She then proceeded to give an example of how her mother, who was visiting her on a holiday, had been physically assaulted by one of the girls; the assault was sufficiently severe that her elderly mother's eye had been blackened; but the only punishment given by Miss Shankelton was to deprive the girl of certain privileges. Sister Johnson said that she was "very cross" that the girl had not been "punished severely". 619 Sister Johnson acknowledged that she had used a strap on occasions when she had punished her own children. She said that the normal practice would be to hit the child two or three times around the legs. However, the occasions were limited to something which she described as "really bad or outright disobedience. [I]t didn't happen very often, I might add". Sister Johnson, during the course of her cross-examination, agreed that it was important for children to have an opportunity to bond with a caring adult whom they could trust and from whom they could receive affection; she said that she agreed that this was a very important part of the child's emotional development and for the child's preparation for living in the adult world. It was then put to her that this was something that was not always available at the Retta Dixon Home but she would not agree. Sister Johnson and her husband, whilst residing at Retta Dixon, had a number of part Aboriginal children from the Retta Dixon Home live with them as part of their family. As far as Sister Johnson knew, she and her husband were the first couple to provide this type of cottage care. She was firmly of the opinion that such fostering arrangements were far preferable to the dormitory style accommodation. 620 Sister Johnson did not have detailed knowledge of the backgrounds of the children who were resident at Retta Dixon while she was there. She was, however, able to give some anecdotal evidence, and in particular, she told of the circumstance of one baby girl who, so she understood, had been left at the gate of the home by the child's mother after the mother had first sought and been refused permission to place her in the Home. The child was taken in and cared for by the Home. As for Lorna Nelson, all she could say was that she was a quiet, well behaved girl; she said of her: "she was very intelligent". 621 Sister Johnson described the toilet and bathroom facilities at Retta Dixon as "pretty primitive" but she said that in the context that they were "like everything in Darwin in those days". She added that the toilets were quite a distance away and she said that her family and the children in the Home relied on chamber pots during the night. Because of the presence of frogs in the toilets, she said: "I certainly wouldn't have gone there at night and wouldn't have expected the children to either". 622 The last question and answer in Sister Johnson's evidence in chief paints its own picture. I have no reason to doubt her integrity. Just as I have commented on the genuineness of Mrs Cubillo's beliefs, so also I am ready to extend the same consideration to Sister Johnson. Her recall of the treatment of the children at the Retta Dixon Home during her time in 1956 to 1959 comes from the following passage in the evidence: "Can I just ask you finally, Sister Johnson, what you would say about the degree and the type of care that was given to the children at Retta Dixon Home? --- I really believe that the workers that were there like Mummy Dinham and Marge Spohn and Jocelyn Gadd, those workers really loved those children. I know they did. They cared about them, they cared about what happened to them and I find it very sad that some of the children are doing this. I'm glad Miss Shankelton isn't alive 'cause it would break her heart'." 623 In its answer to Mrs Cubillo's claim, the Commonwealth called one of the former Retta Dixon missionaries, Mrs Christine Dora Treloar who, as Chrissie South, worked at Retta Dixon during the 1950s. Mrs Treloar, who was seventy at the time of giving evidence, impressed me with her keen memory, her attention to detail and her obvious neutrality. I believe that her evidence about the operations at the Retta Dixon Home and the treatment of the children was probably the best of all the witnesses who gave evidence. There were, of course, areas where her memory let her down, but for the most part, I am content to rely on what she said. Mrs Cubillo had fond memories of Chrissie South; she said that she was kind and sympathetic to the children and, because she was part Aboriginal, she understood the children better. 624 Mrs Treloar did her primary schooling to grade 4 at the Cherbourg Aboriginal Settlement in Queensland. She left school at the age of twelve and started working as a domestic on an outback cattle station. From there she was successful in applying to the Aborigines Inland Mission to study at its Singleton Bible Training Institute. After two years at Singleton, Mrs Treloar was posted to the mission at Delissaville in Darwin in 1948. From Delissaville she moved to the Retta Dixon Home in about 1950 or 1951 and she stayed there until May 1955. She said that her title at the Retta Dixon Home was "Native Missionary". Although she arrived at the Home after the Phillip Creek children, and left before Mrs Cubillo left, she was at the Retta Dixon Home for over five years whilst the young Lorna Nelson was there. She therefore had ample opportunity to assess the Home during a substantial part of the time that Lorna was there. Mrs Treloar's work at Retta Dixon centred upon the care of a group of girls: "I washed their clothes, ironed, mended, made bedspreads, covers for the mattresses. I sometimes had to take a turn in cooking in the kitchen when we didn't have a cook for the whole group of children in the home. And you mentioned you looked after some girls. Approximately how many girls did you look after? --- I think it started off with 9 or 11. Did it change? --- Then I think - and then about 13 and it fluctuated. As they got older they transferred to the senior girls and as the children from the kindergarten were old enough for school they came up to the big girls, and likewise the boys I think, yes. What age range would your girls have been? --- I'm not sure. From 6 or 7 to about 11 or 12. I think when they turned 12 they were transferred to the senior girls." 625 Mrs Treloar offered innocent explanations to issues that to others had been sources of complaint. The building that was called the gaol-house only got its name from the fact that the Army, before Retta Dixon acquired it, had used it as a gaol-house; and the girls' dormitory was locked to keep out intruders because as, Mrs Treloar said, intruders had been a problem. She told of the difficulties at Retta Dixon. The toilets were a distance from the dormitory: she or another missionary would have to escort the girls if there was a need to use them during the night. There were only two showers and no hot water. 626 When asked about Miss Shankelton, Mrs Treloar said that she was referred to as "Lailee" by both the children and the staff; she thought that there was "a pretty good relationship" between Miss Shankelton and the other members of the staff and between Miss Shankelton and the children. Mrs Treloar described Miss Shankelton as "a very quiet lady" but "approachable": "I don't think I ever heard her raise her voice to any of the children. She was very quiet and could command attention and have, you know, the children stop and listen." 627 Mrs Treloar was then asked to tell what she remembered of Ms Spohn. She answered that she could not remember anything spectacular about her, adding that she thought she "got on all right with the children". Her memories of Ms Dinham were, however, very strong: "She looked after the babies in the nursery and was a very dedicated committed lady to looking after the babies. What do you mean by that? --- Well, she gave her whole attention to the children. We had some sick babies and she gave a lot of attention to the babies who needed to be fed, needed special attention in being fed at times because some of them were small and had to have special formula mixed for some of these children." 628 Mrs Treloar's evidence about the children's daily routine was quite detailed and very informative. She listed the duties and the work details that the children had to perform of a morning before going to school; she took obvious pride in the children's appearance: "Well, I personally washed my girls' blouses and their uniforms and ironed them and I personally did most of their - washed most of their good clothes, their good frocks, and starched and ironed them, which I enjoyed doing. And what happened when the children got home from school? What was the routine then? --- They'd come in and change their clothes. Some would hop in and have a shower, others would flop on the bed for a while and chatter and then they'd change their clothes and go out and play. Some would go out and play, some would read on their beds." 629 According to Mrs Treloar, the children had toys to play with and there was, as well, a basketball court. She also explained that it was Miss Shankelton's practice to make sure that each child received a present on his or her birthday. Mrs Treloar said that, for her girls, she was able to select a new frock for them as well as a toy. Maxine Hill said that whilst the children were permitted to play normal children's games, they were denied access to comics or the movies – although they did have occasional "slide" nights featuring the travels of one or other of the missionaries. Asked about books, she replied that the only books that she could remember were "kids' story books". That, in itself, was hardly surprising as it was, after all, a home for children. More than once, Mrs Treloar referred to her love of reading. She said that of an evening "I would read these stories to my girls" until it was time to put out the lights. I found it difficult to reconcile Mrs Cubillo's description of Retta Dixon Home as a place without love as I listened to and watched Mrs Treloar give her evidence. When it was put to Mrs Treloar that the staff at Retta Dixon were not physically or emotionally affectionate towards the children, she said: "I wouldn't agree with that. We did love those children. We – we tried to make that home as homely as possible. We spent - I spent a lot of time with the girls I looked after and I was always there in the dormitory, and the other ladies were the same. I - I don't think that's a - a true statement. Were you physically affectionate towards your girls or the other children? --- I think so, but not overly. What do you mean by that? --- Well, I didn't hug and - I played with them, we played games. I genuinely - I feel I genuinely loved them, and still do love the children I looked after." On the other hand, Mrs Treloar acknowledged that, because so much time was needed with the little ones, the older girls were neglected "in a sense, in that we weren't able to meet their needs". Perhaps that statement offers the clue to understanding Mrs Cubillo's memory of the Home. 630 Mrs Treloar said that there was a problem with bed wetting but when asked if she had ever punished a girl for it she replied: "No. I don't think I ever did, No". Mrs Hill also said that bed-wetting was rife in the Home but she said that the children would be punished for it. She said that she would make her bed in the morning in an attempt to hide the fact that she had wet her bed. She said: "… and every time it happened with me I'd come home and I'd find my bed stripped and I knew Mummy Dinham had found out that I'd wet the bed and she used to belt me." 631 Mrs Treloar was aware that some of the children had been placed at the Retta Dixon Home by their parents. After all these years, she was still able to name some of them. She also remembered the Phillip Creek children, naming twelve of the sixteen without hesitation. Five of them, one of whom was Lorna Nelson, were in her care. Mrs Treloar's recollection was that the Phillip Creek children mixed in "pretty well with the other children". However, she also confirmed that the Phillip Creek children were not visited by their relatives and that they never left Retta Dixon on visits to their families. On the other hand she claimed that there were no restrictions on family members visiting the children. 632 When asked to explain her personal attitude towards discipline, Mrs Treloar volunteered that: "Sometimes I'd give them a clout over the shoulder or behind ...". She also said that on occasions "I might've taken my belt off … and give them a whack around the legs". Mrs Treloar had also seen both Ms Dinham and Miss Shankelton administer corporal punishment with a strap. She did not, on the other hand, ever see Mr Walter, discipline a child. It was specifically put to her that it had been alleged that Mr Walter lost control and hit Lorna Nelson with the buckle end of his belt. Mrs Treloar said that she regarded him as "a very controlled person". Mrs Treloar agreed, during the course of her cross-examination, that Mr Walter "had very strong religious views" whereas she and Ms Dinham were "less fervent". 633 Mrs Treloar had a recollection of Government officers visiting the Retta Dixon Home. She recalled Mr Sweeney and Mr Giese, but her evidence on this subject was vague and in general terms. It would not be possible to make a finding about the regularity of any such visits from what she was able to recall. She could not remember Mr Dentith who was the Superintendent of the Bagot Reserve in 1954 and 1955. She did however remember Mr Stan Matthews and his summary dismissal. Some indication of her generosity of spirit emerged when she was able to find something good to say of that man. 634 In response to a question from her counsel, Mrs Cubillo told of an occasion when, as a resident at Retta Dixon Home, she was able to enjoy some contact with members of her extended family. She could not identify when this event occurred, other than to say that it was in "the early 50's". She said that Nat Williams, a Warumungu elder who was married to her sister Eileen, Engineer Jack, a Warlpiri elder, and some Aboriginal children came to the Bagot Reserve. She described the incident in these terms: "I was attempting to talk over the fence with Josephine Martin and a few other of my relatives, touching over the fence line, just touching hands because we were never touched by anybody and we were called away and cautioned by Ms Shankelton. We snuck back over there because we wanted to have some information about our family. We were sent away and given the strap by a male missionary." Mrs Cubillo was asked: "Why did you want to touch your country people, your relations?" She explained: "They were my family. They were the only people I loved and who loved me. I never had any contact with anybody inside the home, no physical contact or had somebody place their hands to assure me that they cared for me." 635 These passages from Mrs Cubillo's evidence were significant in two competing respects. On the one hand, it pointed to an unreasonable attitude of isolating the children from their Aboriginal family and friends. On the other hand, it showed that some members of Mrs Cubillo's extended family knew where she was living. This feeling of isolation and lacking love and care was a recurring theme in Mrs Cubillo's evidence. Whether it was an objective fact, or whether it was only Mrs Cubillo's subjective reaction to her institutionalisation, I am satisfied that Mrs Cubillo's time at the Retta Dixon Home was an unhappy time. She craved for, but did not receive, the love and affection that she needed. Mrs Hill also said that relatives were not encouraged to visit the children. She said that the children would talk to their relatives "over the fence" but if the missionaries saw them "we would get called away from the fence, get into trouble". That statement, of course, contradicted her earlier evidence that her father visited her and her sister. 636 In the letter dated 9 July 1954, from the Administrator of the Northern Territory, Mr Wise, to the Secretary, Department of Territories in Canberra, which was the letter that referred to the proposal that part Aboriginal children in institutions in the Darwin area should be removed to Gawler in South Australia, Mr Wise said that Miss Shankelton had advised him that her mission was opposed to the idea. He wrote: "Miss Shankelton went on to say that a number of inmates at the Home have parents residing in the Territory who followed the education and welfare of their children with interest, and desired to have access to them from time to time." The Administrator then wrote: "It is agreed that there are a very limited number of children in this category. However, the Acting Director of Native Affairs advises me that the greater number are children of parents who have no great interest in their children other than to be relieved of their personal responsibility." It is not clear to whom the Administrator was referring when he said "It is agreed". It might have been Miss Shankelton or it might have been the Acting Director of Native Affairs. Nevertheless, it represents some evidence against the proposition that the Retta Dixon Home followed a policy of keeping the children segregated from their families. 637 The evidence does not permit me to make findings that would be based on the fact that Maisie did not visit Lorna whilst Lorna was a resident of the Retta Dixon Home. On the one hand, I am not prepared to find that the Home had an active policy that would have prevented Maisie from visiting Lorna. Mrs Cubillo's evidence about the occasion when she talked through the fence to her relatives was not enough to justify such a conclusion. Miss Shankelton may have thought that Lorna was talking to strangers. On the other hand, it would be equally unfair to hold that Maisie did not visit Lorna because Maisie had lost interest in Lorna. There was nothing in the evidence to suggest that Maisie's failure to make contact was indicative of a lack of interest. 638 There was a second occasion when Mrs Cubillo had a far more meaningful contact with her relatives. During the Christmas school holidays that preceded her last year at school, her cousin, Polly Kelly, a natural daughter of Maisie, obtained Miss Shankelton's permission to have Lorna stay with her for a time. As best as I can calculate, Lorna would have been then about seventeen years of age. If that calculation is correct, it would mean that it would have been the 1955-1956 school holidays. At Polly's instigation, the two of them caught a commercial passenger bus in Darwin, intending to visit Lorna's family in Tennant Creek. The bus stopped at Banka Banka station to drop off some supplies and the girls got off the bus. Lorna met her Aunts Elsie and Mary, her tribal sister Kathleen, another Aunt Mary and some other unnamed relatives. Lorna was told by them that her mother, Maisie, was either at Phillip Creek or Tennant Creek. This was both a happy and sad occasion for Lorna – it was happy because she had made contact with her relatives, but it was sad because of her inability to communicate with them; she had lost her native tongue and they could speak very little English. Later, Lorna met up with her mother and, happy though the occasion was, it was made difficult because of the language problems; as Mrs Cubillo said, Maisie "only spoke limited English". 639 Mrs Cubillo saw Maisie again before she returned to the Retta Dixon Home after spending some time in Tennant Creek with relatives. Speaking of Maisie, Lorna said: "I wanted to be with her, but I felt that my life had been severed from the time I was removed from Phillip Creek and I could not communicate adequately with my mother." 640 Lorna never saw Maisie again; she heard later that she had died; she also thinks that Polly Kelly is dead. The parties agreed that exhibit R36 was the death certificate for Maisie; it recorded that she died in the Tennant Creek Hospital on 7 January 1979 aged about eighty-eight years. This meant that Mrs Cubillo, knowing where to find her surrogate mother, made no attempt at any further contact in the remaining twenty-three years of Maisie's life. I find that lack of contact inconsistent with Mrs Cubillo's fundamental complaint of her forced separation from the woman whom she had believed to be her mother. 641 While she was at Tennant Creek, Mrs Cubillo stayed at the home of Peter and Louie Dixon. She said that Peter was her tribal brother and Louie was his wife. Louie worked as a domestic at the hospital and Peter was a stockman who was then absent working on a cattle station. Both Peter and Louie spoke English as well as Warumungu and Warlpiri. Mrs Cubillo also caught up with her tribal sister, Kathleen Napanangka. Both Kathleen and her husband, who was, at the time of the visit, the head stockman on Banka Banka, spoke Pidgin English. At this stage, Mrs Cubillo's answers drifted away from the questions that were asked of her in cross-examination: "You had no trouble communicating with her? --- She would understand me, yes. Indeed, I think you mentioned that Kathleen …? --- But I did not have a conversation with Kathleen. You didn't speak to Kathleen? --- I hugged and cried with my relatives." 642 Ultimately she acknowledged that she spoke to her sister, but only for about five minutes. She also agreed that she had a short meeting with her other tribal sister, Eileen. This evidence established that, as a teenager, she had made contact with three immediate members of her family as well as Maisie but, apparently, no attempt was made by any of them to keep Lorna with them. Mrs Cubillo acknowledged that she also met up with some aunts either at Banka Banka or Phillip Creek; as she said: "There were a host of relatives there and I don't remember all their names." 643 The people who Mrs Cubillo referred to as her siblings, Polly Kelly, Peter Dixon, Kathleen and Eileen (as well as Lorna Curtis and Arabelle Dixon) were, in fact, natural children of Maisie and, as such, were, in European terms, Mrs Cubillo's first cousins. When answering questions about their whereabouts, one matter of interest that came out of Mrs Cubillo's answers was that none of them (so far as she was aware) was living a truly tribal life. All had, to some extent, adapted to a style of western living. For example Peter and Louie Dixon had a home in Tennant Creek and Kathleen and Eileen lived there too. Polly Kelly lived in Darwin; the whereabouts of Lorna Curtis was not mentioned and Arabelle Dixon lived somewhere interstate. 644 Mrs Cubillo returned to Tennant Creek with her husband and children on another occasion. The only indication of the date of this visit was that it was subsequent to Cyclone Tracy. Mrs Cubillo said in cross-examination that she returned because she wanted to see her brother, Jack Gidjigurri, whom she described as "a tribal person", and she wanted her children to meet him. As she did not mention Maisie with respect to this visit, the probabilities are that it occurred after Maisie's death in January 1979. 645 Mrs Cubillo made a trip with Olive Kennedy to Warrabri (now called Ali Currung) to visit Olive's family. She could not remember the year of the visit but she recalled that it was after Cyclone Tracy and that she took her two youngest children with her. It is not clear from the evidence whether this trip preceded or succeeded the visit that she made with her husband. Mrs Cubillo said that Ali Currung is about 100 to 150 kilometres south of Tennant Creek. To get to it from Darwin, one travels south down the Stuart Highway through Banka Banka Station, Phillip Creek and Tennant Creek, turning off the Highway to the south east at Singleton. Mrs Cubillo said that Olive Kennedy visited her family yearly and it was on one of those annual visits that Mrs Cubillo accompanied her. It was put to Mrs Cubillo that Olive Kennedy was one of the children who, along with Mrs Cubillo, had been taken from Phillip Creek to the Retta Dixon Home. As so often happened when an embarrassing question was put to her, Mrs Cubillo gave a disjointed answer. On this occasion she replied: "[A]nd she lived interstate in her adult life". The question was not repeated. Mrs Cubillo saw the trap – if Olive Kennedy could regularly visit her family, why could Mrs Cubillo not visit hers. Although her husband had a motor car, Mrs Cubillo could not drive. In that regard she differed from Olive Kennedy. But subject to that question of transport, Olive Kennedy's earlier years had much in parallel with that of the young Lorna; yet in her early adult life, Olive had been able to establish and maintain contact with her family. In fact, Mrs Cubillo acknowledged that on the occasion of this visit, they stopped at Tennant Creek on the way back to Darwin and she visited her brother Jack. 646 Mrs Barbara Cummings was the author of a book Take this child – from Kahlin Compound to the Retta Dixon Children's Home, Canberra, Aboriginal Studies Press, 1990 – a work that dealt with "the Stolen Generation". Both the author and the book were mentioned from time to time during the course of the trial, but Mrs Cummings did not give evidence nor was the book received into evidence. Although she was not one of the Phillip Creek children, Mrs Cummings was an inmate of the Retta Dixon Home at the same time as Mrs Cubillo. Mrs Cubillo assisted Mrs Cummings in her research for her book. For that purpose, Mrs Cubillo sought and was granted leave of absence from her work in December 1987 and January 1988. As part of her assistance to Mrs Cummings, Mrs Cubillo accompanied her to Phillip Creek to look at the old site of the Settlement because, as Mrs Cubillo said, "my countrymen and relatives did not want to talk to others. [T]hey only wanted to talk with their own relatives and that was me". Asked to describe how she assisted Mrs Cummings (in addition to the visit to Phillip Creek) Mrs Cubillo said: "I worked with her just telling her about the children at Retta Dixon, my relations, and who they were and that sort of thing." This passage in Mrs Cubillo's evidence was another indicator of her ability to have a measure of contact with the members of her extended family. 647 Mrs Cubillo's counsel asked her during her examination in chief about her attitude to participating in tribal life. He commenced his question on this subject by having Mrs Cubillo refer back to the occasions when she had visited Tennant Creek: "How do you feel when you go to Tennant Creek? --- I feel a sense of sadness and loss. I don't know where I fit in. I feel within myself that my ties have been severed from my family during the time of my removal from Phillip Creek. Have you made any attempts yourself to try and get back or find out about Aboriginal culture or tradition? --- I – I only know little things about my Aboriginal life but I don't – I have no real knowledge about my tribal life. HIS HONOUR I'm sorry, I couldn't hear your answer, Mrs Cubillo? -- I don't have a real knowledge of my tribal life, just the little basic things about my tribal life, your Honour. MR RUSH: would you like to find out more? --- Yes, I would." This subject was taken up in cross-examination by Ms Hollingworth, counsel for the Commonwealth, who asked Mrs Cubillo: "What attempts have you made to find out more about your tribal life in the time since you left Retta Dixon?" Mrs Cubillo answered that question by saying: "I haven't made any attempts to learn about my Aboriginal culture, because I live in a different world to them. … and I grew up in a different world to them." 648 It was easy to accept and understand that Mrs Cubillo was living in a different world, but her answer did not address adequately the question that had been asked of her. She had said that she would like to find out more about her tribal life. It did not follow, as a matter of logic, that living in a different world prevented her from finding out more about her tribal life. It might make it more difficult; after all she was living in Darwin with a job and a family and her relatives were far away in the Tennant Creek area. However, one would expect some effort to be made if, as she said, she wanted to know more about her tribal life. 649 During her cross-examination, it was put to Mrs Cubillo that, by the time she left the Retta Dixon Home, having earlier gone back to Tennant Creek, she knew where to find her family and her relatives and she was "free to choose" where she went. This proposition lead to a determined interchange between Mrs Cubillo and her cross-examiner: "I was not free to go wherever I went. I was in the home until I was placed with a couple to be their housemaid. But after you left the home, once you were no longer in the control of the home, you were an adult, you were free to go where you wanted, weren't you? --- Let me tell you, Ms Hollingworth, we were inexperienced in life. We had nobody. We were just sent out the gate to this world that we weren't familiar with and that was a scary fact. You knew where your family were and you knew how to get to see them; is that not the case, Mrs Cubillo? --- Are you saying that I had the means to go visit my family? Well, you could have gone and asked Polly Kelly to take you down again? --- I had no money, no means and people like you removed me." 650 This passage from Mrs Cubillo's evidence disclosed many things that have affected me in my attempts to evaluate her evidence. First, there was the obvious and understandable bitterness towards authority; secondly, there was the feeling of frustration that a person, torn between two cultures, must have felt – a feeling that could only be truly appreciated by one who had suffered the same experience. Mrs Cubillo told a story of loss and despair as a result of her being sent to the Retta Dixon Home. She said to her counsel: "I've lived in despair. I've been overawed with pain and anxiety and that, I'm still anxious to this day and many time I suffered in silence because there was no one there to help me and I still suffer to this day." Later she said: "I feel as though I'm defeated. Sometimes I wonder what was it worth. I believe that I was torn away from a loving family into a life with no love and that was the life I lived in the homes." Thirdly, there was her independence of spirit. Mrs Cubillo was not a person who was cowed by authority or overwhelmed by the formalism of the Court room. She was one who was prepared to stand and fight for her cause. 651 It had earlier been put to Mrs Cubillo in cross-examination that once she left the Retta Dixon Home, she knew where to find her family. Her answer "No, I didn't know where to find my family" was wrong. She knew from her trip to Tennant Creek with Polly Kelly, even before she left Retta Dixon Home, where her family was located. No reason was advanced during the course of the hearing that would explain why she did not stay with her family instead of going back to Darwin or why, when she left the Retta Dixon Home, she did not make any attempt to return to her relatives in the Tennant Creek area. It was put to Mrs Cubillo in cross-examination that she would have had the know-how to get to Tennant Creek if she wanted to join her family. She denied this: "But in any event, you knew whilst you were at Retta Dixon that there was a bus you could get on, a Tuitt's bus, that would go down to Tennant Creek? --- I did not know of any bus. I was on a visit to my sister's place and she made these arrangements; I had no knowledge about any way of getting back to see my family." The sister to whom she referred was Polly Kelly. Even if her answer correctly recorded her state of knowledge at that time (and it may well have for, after all, she was only seventeen and had led a very cloistered life) it did not account for her failure to enlist the aid of Polly who might have helped her return to Tennant Creek. In making that observation, I have made allowance for the fact that she would have lost her tribal or bush life and would have become indoctrinated into a form of western culture but, many of her relatives had given up pure tribal living for aspects of urban or town life. That does not mean that they had given up their Aboriginal culture – that is an entirely different matter. The limited issue at this stage, is to point out that if Mrs Cubillo had wished to return to her Aboriginal way of life, it would not have meant forsaking all the western amenities to which she may have become accustomed. She could have investigated the possibility of living (say) in Tennant Creek and with the assistance of her relatives she might have been able, slowly, to embrace her Aboriginal culture. It must not be overlooked that as time went by, her chances of returning to her family diminished, first because of her marriage and then because of her six children and her need to support her husband and her family. They are not matters that can be put to one side, but they are factors for which no one other than Mrs Cubillo must take responsibility. 652 Is it therefore true to say that, from the time Mrs Cubillo left Retta Dixon, and perhaps, even earlier, bearing in mind her visit to Tennant Creek with Polly Kelly, she was a free agent to make a choice for her future life? Is it true to say that she could have, then, and at any time thereafter, if she had wished to do so, returned to Phillip Creek and to her Aboriginal community? By the time she left the Retta Dixon Home, she had lost her native language, she did not have the skills of a young woman who had been brought up in a traditional Aboriginal community and she had acquired a western style of living. On the other hand, some of the members of her extended family, to her knowledge, had partially moved away from a traditional life; for example, some had taken up residence in conventional European housing in Tennant Creek. Although the subject was not addressed by counsel in evidence, the addresses that were given by Kathleen and Eileen Napanangka suggested that they live in conventional European homes in Tennant Creek. On the other hand Bunny and Annie Napurrula gave their address as "House 26, Mulga Camp, Tennant Creek". I do not know what description would most aptly describe those premises. 653 Mr Penhall was asked, during the course of his evidence in chief, whether he had, during his time as a patrol officer observed any change "in the Aboriginals in the Central Australia area". He gave a lengthy answer but it warrants being set out in full because it showed that the Aboriginal people, while not abandoning their culture, were interested in benefiting from some aspects of western culture. He said: "Yeah, well they were becoming, I suppose, to use a modern term, they were becoming more sophisticated. They were wanting more of the – I suppose the luxuries of the European. They also were not going on walkabout like they used to. They used to more or less stay in a particular area; they wouldn't go very far away. They'd quite often stick to their stations and stay there until perhaps a Christmas break would come along and the station would take them out to a waterhole or to a bore and leave them rations and let them have their corroborees and do their rituals and that sort of thing while they were on holidays. But that was looked on more as a holiday, after working for about nine months on the station when they'd have three months off. Well, that was the vacation period when they did whatever they wished. They – they – also, of course, as I said, they weren't that keen on walking any more because if there was a motorcar around to give them a lift, they'd be in it." 654 It is not to be thought that the choice confronting Lorna, as a young woman of eighteen years, was necessarily limited to a return to life in the bush or to the acceptance of a western lifestyle. There was the possibility of the middle ground where, from a western base, she began to learn her Aboriginal culture and language. Nor should it be thought that she was compelled to make an immediate decision; if she wanted to resume, in whole or in part, her Aboriginal culture and lifestyle, she would have had an opportunity to do so gradually at any time. The reality of the situation was that the choice became progressively more remote as she continued to live in a conventional western style atmosphere. Little was said about her husband's background, save that he was a Filipino. But an urban life with a husband and children probably made a return to Aboriginal culture an unrealistic option for Lorna. It is not possible, in my opinion, merely to say that she was a free agent and that she chose western civilisation in preference to returning to her Aboriginal culture; since the age of eight, and, perhaps earlier, she had been indoctrinated into a European lifestyle. Those were her formative years; they were the years in which she had total exposure to only one lifestyle. She was taught nothing about her Aboriginal background and had no opportunity to keep in touch with it. After almost ten years at Retta Dixon, where she lived, ate, slept and cared for herself as a white girl, it would be unrealistic to expect that she could, without active assistance from family members, return to her former Aboriginal life. 655 However, that conclusion does not end the matter. There are still several questions to be answered. So far, I have only concluded that, in her personal circumstances, it would have been unrealistic to expect the young teenager, Lorna, to return to a traditional Aboriginal life when she left Retta Dixon. The next question is: did she then want to return? Another question is: does she now want to return? A third and significant question in this case is: by not being able to return, if that be the case, has she suffered a loss and if so, what is it that she has lost? The answer to that last question is, of course, her Aboriginal culture, but what does she know of Aboriginal culture so that she can give an explanation of her loss. And is her sense of loss to be set off by her acquisition of western culture? One answer to that question would be to say that western culture was forced on her against her will and that she is now, because of that force, compelled to live with it – not because it was her free choice but because her time in Retta Dixon meant that she had no choice. 656 I find it difficult to accept Mrs Cubillo's proposition that she would like to find out more about her Aboriginality. In my opinion, Mrs Cubillo has had the opportunity since she was about seventeen, if she had wished to take it, to investigate whether she wanted to return to the tribal life to which she originally belonged or, as would more likely be the case, to an Aboriginal life within an Aboriginal community that enjoyed fundamental aspects of western civilisation. But she has elected to stay wholly in an urban environment: an environment that commenced when she left the Retta Dixon Home and which was cemented with her marriage and her entry into the western work force. I reject the proposition that she was a free agent when she left Retta Dixon and, that as a free agent, she chose western culture over Aboriginal culture. That would be an unrealistic expectation for a young girl in Lorna's position. However, I am not satisfied that, at that same time, she wanted to return to her Aboriginal community. If it had then been her wish to have some contact with her Aboriginal family, there would have been opportunities that she could have made for herself – but she did nothing. 657 I accept the proposition that her removal and her continued presence at Retta Dixon was responsible for her loss of her Aboriginal culture and her native tongue. I also accept that her time at Retta Dixon would have so conditioned her to a western lifestyle that it would have been difficult, and almost impossible, to return to tribal life in its purest form. In any case that would not have been the proper test – as I have said, the limited evidence of her contact with her relatives suggested that they were not then living a total tribal life. Some, at least, were living in western style accommodation with some consequential exposure to and usage of western consumer facilities. Her stated wish that she wanted to know more about her culture and her Aboriginal life did not necessitate a return to the bush with all the attendant differences that such a move would entail. Her wishes could have been achieved, at least to some degree, by relocating herself – or later by relocating herself and her family, so that she was living in closer proximity to her relatives. That would not have been a complete answer to her losses if, indeed she was suffering a sense of loss, but it would have gone some of the way towards minimising them. 658 Mrs Cubillo made some very serious accusations against Mr Des Walter, a missionary who worked at the Retta Dixon Home while Mrs Cubillo was residing there. Mr Walter, who gave evidence for the defence, denied all her accusations of impropriety. 659 Mr Walter was born in 1930; he was aged sixty-nine at the time when he gave his evidence; he described himself as a retired motor mechanic. As a young man, whilst still undertaking his apprenticeship, he visited an orphanage in Brisbane on Saturdays to help with games for the children. He was, at that time, a practising member of a religious body: the Brethren Assembly. He was also involved with a Christian interdenominational evangelical organisation known as "Open Air Campaigners". In 1948, Mr Walter joined the Royal Australian Airforce and, a year or so later, he was posted to Darwin. In Darwin he attended services of another church and through those services he met Mr Streeton and became interested in the work of the Aborigines Inland Mission. He said that he became particularly interested in the Aboriginal people even though he had had no previous contact with them. He visited the Retta Dixon Home and met Miss Shankelton. In time, he became an active unpaid volunteer for Retta Dixon in various capacities, including that of a preacher as well as caring for the children on excursions. 660 Mr Walter said that when he arrived in Darwin, the city was still suffering from the effects of the Japanese bombing during the Second World War. He said that "living conditions were fairly primitive. [T]here were lots of homes that were just galvanised iron". Asked about Retta Dixon, he said that Retta Dixon, at that time, was no worse than the general appearance and conditions of living in Darwin. 661 Mr Walter remained in Darwin until September 1951 when his term of engagement with the Air Force concluded. He said that he and his wife, whom he had married in 1952, decided that they wanted to do missionary work with the Aboriginal people in the Northern Territory and, with that in mind, he contacted the Aborigines Inland Mission at Singleton and was duly accepted. Initially, they were posted to Katherine where Mr Streeton was stationed. They were still based in Katherine on 6 July 1954 when their first child was born. Shortly thereafter, following a request from Miss Shankelton, Mr and Mrs Walter were posted to the Retta Dixon Home in Darwin. At Retta Dixon, Mr Walter was placed in charge of the boys' dormitory. At that time he thought that there would have been about forty boys and fifty girls at the Retta Dixon Home as well as three or four single mothers. On 3 August 1954 Miss Shankelton wrote to the Director of the Native Affairs Branch advising that "Mr Desmond Walter, missionary and motor mechanic, with his wife, Audrey Walter, fully trained hospital sister, have been transferred, temporarily, to the staff of the Home". Mr and Mrs Walter left the Retta Dixon Home in 1955 and their resignation from the Aborigines Inland Mission of Australia was minuted on 12 October of that year. He said that his resignation was because of "spiritual issues which I encountered during the course of the ministry". He denied that he was dismissed, claiming that he left voluntarily. According to the Reverend Long, Mr Walter gave, as his reason for his resignation, his disapproval of a woman (presumably Miss Shankelton) being in charge of a ministry. 662 Mr Walter agreed that he believed in corporal punishment. As he said in one of his early answers in cross-examination: "I believe that it was a form of punishment that brought correction to children." He also agreed that he administered corporal punishment to girls at Retta Dixon at the request of the female missionaries. He was asked to name those missionaries; he replied: "Miss Spohn, Miss Dinham, Miss Shankelton, Miss Gadd, Miss South." Mrs Treloar (ie Miss South) disagreed; she said that she would have sent her girls to Miss Shankelton for punishment. The name of Miss Jocelyn Gadd was mentioned from time to time during the trial but no evidence was led about her. It is not known whether she is alive or dead. 663 His form of corporal punishment was, so he said, three or four hits with a belt. It was put to him in cross-examination that his form of retribution and chastisement was "brutal" and "vicious" but he denied this. He likewise denied that he used his fists and boots in administering corporal punishment. He denied that he ever lost his temper. He was then asked: "What's the Bible say about the administration of retribution? --- It says that foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child and the rod of correction will drive it far from him. What does that mean? --- It simply means that the rod will correct a person and bring them back onto a - a right path - when it's administered in love." The mere written recitation of those answers does not capture the air of superior rectitude with which they were delivered. 664 Before considering the details of the accusations that Mrs Cubillo made against Mr Walter, I propose to deal with the allegations that were made against Mr Walter from other sources. Mr Dentith was, in 1954, the Superintendent in charge of the Bagot Reserve for Aboriginals. Mr Walter claimed that he had a clash with Mr Dentith not long after his arrival in Darwin in July of that year, and that, as a result, Mr Dentith exhibited strong animosity toward Mr Walter. Mr Walter's explanation of the incident that gave rise to this alleged animosity was to the effect that there had been a "riot" involving a group of Aboriginals in the Bagot compound which Mr Walter succeeded in quelling after Mr Dentith had failed in his attempt to do so. It was Mr Walter's evidence that Mr Dentith: "… got very, very upset and virtually abused me; told me I had no right to be there." During his examination in chief, Mr Walter was shown a copy of a report dated 27 July 1954 from Mr Dentith to Mr McCaffrey, the Acting Director of Native Affairs. In that report, Mr Dentith set out particulars of certain information that he had received about Mr Walter and Mr Stanley Matthews, both of whom were Retta Dixon missionaries. It was claimed that they had administered exceptionally severe punishment to three young part Aboriginal boys. According to the report, Mr Dentith recorded that he and Mr McCaffrey attended upon Miss Shankelton and informed her of the information that had been conveyed to Mr McCaffrey. It is not totally clear, but it would seem that the report inferred that the punishment was administered during the night of Wednesday, 21 July 1954, that Mr Walter was involved in the administration of the punishment, that one boy was beaten with a tennis racquet and that another "had an old scar previously given by Matthews bleeding and broken". Mr Dentith, in the concluding section of his report, wrote: "The only report I have had since the incident is that Mr D Watters (sic) is just as bad at punishing as Matthews but the boys concerned said they will be clubbing together to "bash" him up if he hits any of them." It is agreed that the reference to "Watters" is a reference to Mr Walter. 665 Mr McCaffrey submitted a copy of Mr Dentith's report to the Administrator under cover of his report of 28 July 1954. The first part of that report dealt with Mr Matthews. Mr McCaffrey wrote that it was the third occasion that he had received complaints about Matthews' brutality; he advised the Administrator that he had informed Miss Shankelton "I required Mr Matthews to be off the Aboriginal Reserve within 48 hours". Mr McCaffrey had, on an earlier occasion, written to the Administrator criticising the staff at the Retta Dixon Home in general and referring specifically to one unnamed "adult male assistant". (See the report of Mr McCaffrey dated 3 February 1954). Of him, Mr McCaffrey wrote: "I have observed him displaying an overbearing manner and dealing out brutal chastisement on the inmates with a rope or strap." As Mr McCaffrey had stated in his report of 28 July 1954 that he had observed Mr Matthews "assault three boys, none of them older than about seven" by striking them "with a piece of knotted two-inch diameter rope", it is reasonable to infer and I find that Mr McCaffrey was referring to Mr Matthews when he described the conduct of the unnamed "adult male assistant". 666 Mr McCaffrey also complained about Miss Shankelton in his letter to the Administrator. He said that after the incident in which Mr Matthews had allegedly assaulted three boys "with a piece of knotted two-inch diameter rope", he had extracted from Miss Shankelton an undertaking "that Mr Matthews would not be permitted to punish children in the future". Mr McCaffrey reported to the Administrator that at his interview with Miss Shankelton on 21 July 1954 "she admitted that she has not carried out the undertaking given me regarding Mr Matthews". 667 The Reverend Long did not have a clear memory of some of the missionaries, such as Ms Dinham and Ms Spohn, but he did remember Stan Matthews. He said that Mr Matthews had first been engaged as a maintenance man as distinct from being a missionary. He recalled that Miss Shankelton rang him to inform him that Mr Matthews had been dismissed from the Retta Dixon Home because of what she described as "excessive corporal punishment". Mr Long met Mr and Mrs Matthews in Sydney saying of them: "He came back to us some time later and wanted to be accepted as missionaries (sic). I felt we ought to give them a second chance and help them if we possibly could …" He said that they received counselling: that they went to Singleton to the Bible Institute where they undertook a course of studies and that ultimately, they were assigned to missions, first in Katherine and later at Normanton. Mr Long said that he only knew of the incident that led to Mr Matthews' dismissal from what Mr Matthews told him and from what Miss Shankelton wrote him. Nevertheless, even though he talked of provocation, Mr Long acknowledged that he felt that the conduct of Mr Matthews "was excessive". During the course of his cross-examination, the contents of Mr Dentith's report to Mr McCaffrey dated 27 July 1954, were put before Mr Long. He was referred to the section in the report where it was claimed that the punishment was so severe that an old scar was bleeding and broken. On the assumption that the accusation was accurate, Mr Long had no hesitation in saying that he would regret such an incident. He was next referred to the section in the report which claimed that it was the third occasion upon which Mr Matthews had administered cruel punishment in the past few months. Once again, assuming such an accusation to be accurate, Mr Long was embarrassed to admit that: "Well, he – he was asked to leave, subsequently to this, and I – I have to agree that it was unfortunate that he did what he did." 668 After dealing with Mr Matthews, Mr McCaffrey in his report of 28 July 1954 then moved to Mr Walter. He wrote of him: "I now have another problem in Mr. Walters, (sic) who has taken upon himself the role of Judge and Chief Whipper. His activities will be closely watched, and although Miss Shankelton gave undertakings in this regard, I am afraid I cannot accept her word in future." 669 These reports were put before Mr Walter; he denied their contents. He said that neither the contents of those reports nor the subject matters of the reports had ever been brought to his attention prior to his preparation to give evidence in this trial. He said that he knew nothing about the use of a tennis racquet as a means of punishment and that he had no recollection of being present when Mr Matthews administered punishment. He believed that he and his wife would have still been in Katherine on 21 July. Miss Shankelton's letter to the Native Affairs Branch giving notice of his and his wife's transfer to the Retta Dixon Home was dated 3 August. However, it was a report of information "for the month ended 31 July 1954". Mr and Mrs Walter could have been at Retta Dixon Home on 21 July. Mr Walter agreed, but only after being pressed, that he knew Mr Matthews slightly. They were, so he said, together at Retta Dixon for a short time. He conceded that he knew that Mr Matthews had been dismissed and that his dismissal had been brought about because of his administration of corporal punishment. 670 Mr Long had a recollection of Mr Des Walter, but his evidence about him was not very detailed. He recalled that he had written Mr McCaffrey on 2 November 1954 proposing that Mr Walter be accepted as Acting Superintendent whilst Miss Shankelton was on leave. He also recalled that Mr McCaffrey replied, by letter dated 24 November 1954 objecting to Mr Walter's proposed appointment. Whilst he recalled acceding to the stand taken by Mr McCaffrey, Mr Long was not able to recall whether he became aware of the reasons for Mr McCaffrey's opposition to Mr Walter. When asked, during his evidence in chief, why the Aborigines Inland Mission had accepted Mr McCaffrey's opposition to Mr Walter's appointment, Mr Long replied: "Well, we could hardly go across to go against the – wishes of the – stated wishes of the Welfare Department." Asked to explain that answer he added: "Well, the – the home was still under the direction of the Welfare Department and if they told us that they weren't happy about such an appointment I – I think we would have to take notice of it." Although Mr Long went on to say that he did not consider that the Welfare Department had "much of a say" with regard to the appointment of staff at lower levels, nevertheless his reaction to Mr McCaffrey's stance indicates an acknowledgment on the part of Mr Long that the Welfare Department was in a position of some dominance. 671 The memorandum from Mr Dentith dated 27 October 1954 to the District Superintendent, Native Affairs Branch, Mr Sweeney ("the Dentith report") was shown to Mr Long during the course of his cross-examination. He said that he had no prior knowledge of the incident that was the subject of the report, but he agreed that if it were true, then the information, as stated by Mr McCaffrey, would have wholly justified Mr McCaffrey's opposition to Mr Walter being nominated as the Acting Superintendent of the Retta Dixon Home during the absence of Miss Shankelton. 672 Mr Dentith wrote in the Dentith report: "… a number of children aged about 12 years ran towards me shouting 'Quick Mr Dentith, Mr Waters (sic) has gone mad, he is breaking Norman A‑-'s arm and kicking him, he won't stop for Miss Shankelton'." Mr Dentith said that he followed the children to the boys' dormitory at the Retta Dixon Home. According to the Dentith report, the attack had allegedly resulted from Norman A-- complaining about Mr Walter to Mr McCaffrey; however, the reason for the boy's report was not stated. Mr Walter claimed that the report by Mr Dentith concerning his treatment of Norman A-- on 27 October 1954 was "a complete fabrication". Mr Walter's version of the incident was to this effect: some boys had told him that Norman A-- "was going to hit me with a brick". He said that he "pre-empted the whole thing" by approaching the boy and disarming him. He said that he then held him down with his knee in the boy's back until the boy "admitted that he would not carry on any further with his ideas of hurting me or disrupting the dormitory". Mr Walter said that he asked, but Norman would not say, why he had intended to attack him. According to Mr Walter, neither Mr Dentith nor Miss Shankelton was present at any time during this incident. The Commonwealth was aware, from the contents of the Dentith report, that there was an allegation that Mrs Walter, in addition to Miss Shankelton, was present during this attack on Norman A--. Mr Dentith is dead, as is Miss Shankelton, but Mrs Walter is still alive. I regard it as highly significant that the Commonwealth did not call her and did not offer any explanation for not calling her. 673 Mr Meagher QC for the Commonwealth, submitted that I should have no regard to the contents of the Dentith report. Mr Walter had refuted it on oath, alleging that Mr Dentith was biased. There was no evidence that pointed to Mr Giese, Mr McCaffrey or Miss Shankelton having acted on it: nor was there any evidence of disciplinary action having been taken against Mr Walter. Perhaps Mr Meagher was relying on what Lord Mildew said in Fox v Mayor of Swindon: AP Herbert, Uncommon Law, London: Eyre Methuen, 1935 at 59. 674 It must be accepted that the author of the Dentith report was not available for cross-examination and that the allegations in it have been denied on oath. But that is not the end of the matter. Weight can be attached to the contemporaneity of the document and to the fact that Mr Dentith and Mr McCaffrey had earlier expressed concerns about Mr Walter administering corporal punishment. Then that evidence is the more readily acceptable by the failure of the Commonwealth to call Mrs Walter to support her husband's denials. There was no evidence to show that Mrs Cubillo was in any way affected by Mr Walter's conduct on that occasion, but my acceptance of the contents of the Dentith report and my adverse finding against Mr Walter reflected badly on his credibility when the time came to consider his denials of Mrs Cubillo's allegations. 675 Mrs Cubillo explained that as a teenager, she did housework in the home of Mr and Mrs Walter. At first she liked and trusted Mr Walter, but after a while she became uneasy because of the way she found him looking at her. She told Miss Shankelton that she did not want to work for Mr and Mrs Walter any more. However, she did not attempt to explain her reasons and, so she said, Miss Shankelton did not ask her. That was her first complaint against him. Mrs Cubillo agreed that, on the particular occasion when she realised that Mr Walter was looking at her, he did nothing and said nothing that was either improper or offensive; clearly, it was a perception that a young girl felt; but whether it was or was not justifiable cannot be tested. She felt compromised, but one must allow for the possibility that she unnecessarily took fright or, perhaps, that she misread the situation. 676 Mr Walter agreed that Lorna did domestic work for his wife for a short time but it was his evidence that she ceased because his wife no longer needed any assistance. He denied that he misbehaved in any way while Lorna was in his home. Even though I accept Mrs Cubillo's evidence about her reactions towards Mr Walter, it does not mean that I accept that her reactions were justified. I could not make an adverse finding against Mr Walter based on a young girl's feeling of unease. However, her decision to refuse to work any further for Mr and Mrs Walter shows that her perception of Mr Walter was then heavily and adversely affected, a factor that has to be remembered when considering the next incident. 677 On another occasion (it is not clear whether this occurred before or after she stopped working for the Walters, but in all probability it was after), Mr Walter drove her to basketball. Normally Miss Shankelton drove her but on this occasion, Miss Shankelton arranged for Mr Walter to do it. It was Mrs Cubillo's evidence that on the way, Mr Walter "placed his hand on my leg up to my thigh". She said that she began to weep and he moved his hand away. Miss Shankelton had also arranged for Mr Walter to pick Lorna up after the basketball game, but she said that she managed to get a ride back to the Retta Dixon Home with Mr Fong Lim, her basketball coach. Mr Fong Lim died in 1990. She never told Miss Shankelton (or anyone else) what had happened. She said that she was punished for not waiting for Mr Walter to take her home; she said that she was "flogged by Mr Walter". Not only did Mr Walter deny putting his hand on Lorna's leg, he denied ever having driven her or any young Retta Dixon girl alone in a car. He said that Miss Shankelton would never have permitted a young girl to be alone in the company of a male missionary. With the death of Miss Shankelton and Mr Fong Lim, that explanation cannot be tested. My reasons for preferring the evidence of Mrs Cubillo in preference to the evidence of Mr Walter are stated later in these reasons. At this stage, I simply state that I am prepared to accept that Lorna was in the car alone with Mr Walter and that something happened to upset her. Unlike the first incident, it is not possible to explain the incident away on the basis that Lorna misunderstood what was happening; she was in no doubt. She said that he placed his hand on the upper part of her leg and that she started to cry. I remain conscious of the test in Briginshaw, but in this area I find that measure of satisfaction in Mrs Cubillo's evidence and presentation which allows me to say that I accept her evidence on the subject in preference to that of Mr Walter. He did not impress me as a witness. Although he carried no onus, I found myself unable to accept his denial. 678 There was a third incident involving Mr Walter. The date was not identified but it was subsequent to the incident in the car. It occurred on a Sunday when a party of girls from the Retta Dixon Home were picnicking at Berry Springs. They were accompanied by Mr and Mrs Walter, Ms Spohn and another female missionary. According to Mrs Cubillo, she and some other girls, notwithstanding directions to the contrary, left their camp and played in a nearby creek. Mr Walter found out. According to Mrs Cubillo he became very angry, hitting her with the buckle end of a strap. She said that it was such a severe beating that it lacerated her hands, face and breast, partially severing one of her nipples. Mrs Cubillo said that she lashed out and struck or pushed Mr Walter who fell over. Thereafter she and some other girls ran away and hitched a ride back to Darwin, where she went to the home of her tribal sister, Polly Kelly. It was Mrs Cubillo's evidence that she and the other girls were fortunate in chancing upon a Mr Kentish who gave them a lift to Darwin in his motor car. Mr Kentish was not available to give evidence; he died over twenty years ago. 679 Mrs Cubillo named the six other girls who went down to the creek with her. Four of them, Josephine Martin, Olive Kennedy, Ruth Crosby and Joyce Croft are now dead and Vera Doran is seriously ill. The remaining girl was the witness, Mai Knight (now Mai Katona). 680 Mrs Katona gave a detailed summary of the events at Berry Springs that led to Mr Walter beating Lorna. After describing how the group of girls had wandered off looking for bush tucker and to wet their heads with water from the creek because it was a hot day, Mrs Katona's evidence continued: "When you returned to the camp what happened? --- A male missionary by the name of Mr Walter came out and asked us where we'd been. And we said that we'd just gone for a walk and he said, 'Have you been swimming?' because on Sundays we weren't allowed to do these sorts of activities. We said, 'No, we hadn't been swimming'. Was there anyone who was speaking for the group? --- Yes, Lorna. When she said that you hadn't been swimming what did Mr Walter do? --- He said we were lying and he got the strap and started, as I recall, hitting and then he turned to Lorna and started hitting her, which was quite frightening to experience. Why was that? --- I'm not sure why he turned to Lorna, but maybe because she was older or she seemed to be responsible. You said it was frightening to experience, why was it frightening? --- Why was it frightening? Because it almost – well, it was a frenzied attack on a defenceless person. I mean, that's quite frightening, any violent action, when you're a child and especially when you can't defend yourself. How did the attack end? --- Eventually Lorna pushed him away and he fell over onto – I can't recall whether it was boxes or some other items, but she fell over, which seemed to have stopped him from beating her. And at that time can you describe Lorna's appearance? --- Yes, there was blood everywhere, on her shirt and down the side of her face. Did you remain at the camp? --- No. What did you do? --- We regrouped and left, we walked to the road, to the highway. Again, who is we in this context? --- I can't remember the girls, but there were several of us and Lorna and I were in that." 681 According to Mrs Katona, Lorna left the group and went to her sister's. The rest of the girls went back to the Retta Dixon Home and told Miss Shankelton what had happened. 682 Mrs Maxine Hill was in the party of girls who went on the picnic to Berry Springs under the supervision of Mr Walter. She knew that a group of girls, including Lorna, went down to the creek, but she was not one of them; she also knew that Lorna and some other girls ran away. However, she was not present at the campsite at the time when, according to Lorna, Mr Walter hit her with the buckle-end of his belt. However, Mrs Hill did give evidence that later, in the dormitory, she saw bruises on Lorna. Asked where were those bruises, she replied "around her back area". That passage in Mrs Hill's examination in chief was not the subject of any questions during the course of her cross-examination. I accept her evidence on this subject. There were other areas where I thought that she was prone to exaggerate, sometimes mischievously. But this was a very serious subject. It was an area where Mrs Hill could have so easily embellished her evidence, but she did not. Her observations of bruising plus her evidence that Lorna and the other girls ran away offers support for a finding that an incident of some magnitude occurred. The bruising to which Mrs Hill referred and the blood to which Mrs Katona referred weigh sufficiently in support of Mrs Cubillo's claims that Mr Walter beat her severely on that day. 683 It was Mr Walter's evidence that it was a common practice to take groups of children to Howard Springs and to Berry Springs so that they could go swimming. But, he added, some controls had to be exercised so that other people, that is, members of the public, could also enjoy a swim. For that reason, there would be times when the children were told that they could not swim in the Springs. According to Mr Walter, this restriction was only imposed to accommodate the convenience of members of the public who wished to enjoy a swim. It had nothing to do with any religious observance that prevented children from swimming on a Sunday. Mr Walter said that there was an occasion when the children had been forbidden to swim but, in defiance of an express order, Lorna and some other girls went swimming. That particular statement was refuted by both Mrs Cubillo and Mrs Katona and I accept their version of the events in preference to Mr Walter's. Mr Walter said that he thought it was Ms Spohn who asked him "to chastise the girls". He said that he did so with a strap "around the legs, backside" two or three times but he denied any use of the buckle of the strap and he denied that he drew blood. He also said that all the girls were punished – not just Lorna. I am satisfied that by his use of the word "strap" in his evidence in chief, Mr Walter was deliberately trying to minimise the significance of the use of his trouser belt. 684 During his evidence in chief, he was asked whether the strap (that being the word volunteered by Mr Walter) had a buckle; he replied "I don't know, maybe". A different picture emerged in cross-examination. Although it was the cross-examiner who used the word "belt" and not the word "strap", Mr Walter then identified that he had used his trouser belt (which undoubtedly would have had a buckle) to administer the punishment: "But you did avail yourself of the nearest belt, didn't you? --- I think there was probably only one there anyway. The only belt was the one you had around your waist? --- Yeah. And that was a belt that had a buckle on it? --- Yes. And you used that buckle, didn't you? --- No, sir. You inflicted on Lorna Nelson wounds, I suggest, didn't you? --- If that had been so, the - the Government officers would've been out there; I'd have been out of the place exactly the same as Mr Matthews. And you were out of the place pretty soon after this, weren't you? --- It had nothing to do with that. We left the home voluntarily." 685 He was then asked: "What did the girls do after you had punished them?" and his answer was: "Well, we discovered that they'd hitchhiked back to the home." That last question and answer created, in my mind, a preposterous proposition. There was evidence that Berry Springs was quite a distance from Darwin; it could not conceivably be regarded as being within walking distance. Mr Walter agreed that the travelling time by car could have been at least a half an hour and there was no public transport. Yet this group of girls, who had deliberately disobeyed an order and had been mildly chastised (according to Mr Walter), reacted so dramatically that they were prepared to run away and find their own way back to Darwin. Under cross-examination, he agreed that the girls had run away following his chastisement and he also agreed that such an event had never before occurred. I find his evidence unrealistic. To compound the lack of reality, Mr Walter claimed that the subject of the girls running away was not discussed with him by Miss Shankelton. In my opinion, nothing short of a most serious, threatening situation would have caused a group of girls to run away in such circumstances. Those circumstances existed and their conduct is readily understood, if one accepts, as I am prepared to accept, that Mr Walter began thrashing Lorna in a rage 686 Mr Walter denied ever using the buckle end of his belt when administering punishment and he was not shaken in his cross-examination. One would have thought, in view of the seriousness of Mrs Cubillo's accusation that the Commonwealth would have called Mrs Walter to support her husband's denials. It was not suggested that she was unavailable to give evidence. I consider that the failure of the Commonwealth to call her as a witness invites the conclusion that her evidence might not have assisted her husband. 687 I am satisfied that an incident such as that described by Mrs Cubillo and Mrs Katona occurred. Mr Walter did not impress me as he gave his evidence. He presented as a man with supposedly deeply rooted Christian convictions, but with a dogmatism that I found disturbing. I formed the impression that Mr Walter was a religious zealot who would have been offended by the thought of young girls engaging in playful activities on the Sabbath. 688 Because of his training and experience as a psychologist, Mr Milliken was questioned and cross-examined about the likely effects on a young girl who received a beating such as that described by Mrs Cubillo at the hand of Mr Walter. The following exchange took place: "In this court we've heard evidence after this event Mr Water . . .? --- Walter. Walter, sorry - assaulted Lorna Cubillo with a strap using the buckle end of the strap in a rage causing physical damage to her mouth, abrasions around her face and partially severing her nipple of her breast. That is the sort of incident from a man who has the trust of children, who is in a responsible position with children and professes to be a man of God, that sort of incident as you would appreciate, I suggest, as a clinical psychologist could cause lasting impact on such a child? --- Yes, it could. I guess the impact on the child might be greater if the man was still there and therefore able to do it again. So the impact on a child may be that if the man has done it once and has a capacity to do it again then you could expect a greater psychological impact on the child? --- That's my opinion. And where such a man has handed out before the event that I've just spoken about, other beltings, that is the sort of environment where you would expect a lasting psychological impact? --- I could expect it to be - with children the research literature suggests – I'm not wanting to minimise the seriousness of what was done, but the research literature emphasises the resilience of children. Remove the threat and the generality is that they're pretty resilient beings. But not all children react the same way, do they? --- No, they don't." 689 Neither Mr Milliken nor anyone else examined Lorna at the time of the Berry Springs incident or shortly thereafter. There is, therefore, no way of knowing whether she was then one of those persons who Mr Milliken described as resilient. 690 After her arrival at the home of Polly Kelly, Mrs Cubillo's evidence was difficult to follow. She arrived there sometime on the following day, the Monday. She told Polly that she had got into trouble, but she did not tell her any details. Yet Polly and her husband, Paddy, drove her into the Welfare Office in Darwin – not back to the Retta Dixon Home. Why? At the Welfare Office, Mrs Cubillo said that she was questioned by the Commonwealth's witness, Mrs Moy. Mrs Cubillo had not met Mrs Moy prior to that occasion. Mrs Cubillo said that she had not told Polly that Mr Walter had flogged her nor did she tell Mrs Moy. She only told them that she had hit or pushed Mr Walter. She said that she was frightened to make accusations about a person in authority. It is convenient to make a few observations at this stage about Mrs Moy and her evidence. As Mrs Maimie Merlin, she had worked as a welfare officer in the Darwin office of the Welfare Branch in the 1950s. Mrs Moy has had a most interesting background. She was born and educated in England, taking a Masters Degree in Arts at Cambridge University prior to the Second World War. But, as she said, she never received her degree: "No, us women were never given that, because we were women." However, the University changed its attitude towards women and she received her degree after the War. In 1939 she married a Dutchman whose family had plantations in Indonesia. The married couple went to Indonesia and were caught up in the Japanese invasion. Mrs Moy, her husband and their young son, John, were captured and they spent three and a half years in Japanese custody. After the war, the family was repatriated to Holland but not long after, they returned to Indonesia although, by that time, the plantation "had been taken". In Mrs Moy's words they were "thrown out" of Indonesia in 1950 and came to Sydney. Her husband was successful in obtaining employment in Darwin and initially, Mrs Moy and John remained in Sydney. Shortly afterwards however, she saw a position in the Welfare Branch in Darwin advertised and was successful in her application for the appointment as a female welfare officer. Her appointment, officially described as a Protector of Aboriginals in the Northern Territory of Australia, was made on 5 August 1955 by Mr Archer who was then the Acting Administrator. On the same day Mr Basel ("Babe") Damaso was also appointed a Protector of Aboriginals. In a letter of advice from Mr Archer to the Secretary, Department of Territories, dated 17 August 1955, it was stated that Mrs Moy "took up her appointment as Welfare Officer in Darwin on Monday, 4 July 1955". Mrs Moy confirmed this information and said that she remained as a welfare officer in Darwin until 1962 when she was transferred to Canberra as a research officer in the Department of Foreign Affairs. 691 Within six months of arriving in Darwin, Mrs Moy was appointed Secretary to the State Children's Council, a position that she held until she left Darwin. The report of the State Children's Council for the Northern Territory for the year ended 30 June 1956, recorded that Mrs Ernestine Mamie Merlin, female welfare officer, employed by the Welfare Branch, was appointed Secretary to the Council on 31 January 1956 in place of Mr Jeremy Phillip Merrick Long who had been transferred from the Administration to the field staff of the Welfare Branch. The contents of that report identified the duties of a welfare officer as requiring the officer to carry out investigations into cases of apparent neglect of children. The report continued that, in some cases, where the parents of the neglected children were prepared to agree to their children being placed in an institution, it was the opinion of the Council that it would be in the best interests of the children if formal court proceedings were avoided, thereby avoiding any stigma of a conviction against the name of the child. Mrs Moy confirmed this practice saying that in some cases the parents were "happy to have their children there": meaning that they were happy to have their children in an institution. That report also details the homes and institutions that had been approved by the Administrator as being suitable for the reception of wards of the State Children's Council. The Retta Dixon Home was one such approved institution, but St Mary's was not. 692 Mrs Moy said that the Welfare Branch was situated in old Sydney Williams huts which were army disposals and very primitive by today's standards. Mr Harry Giese was the Director of Welfare and her immediate superior; Mr Martin Ford was an Administrative Officer; Mr Ted Milliken was also on the staff. She described Mr Les Penhall as a District Officer and her direct superior. Asked whether she recalled Ted Evans, she responded quickly by saying "he was a wonderful person". She said of him that he also held a position as a District Officer but he was senior to Mr Penhall. She said that Messrs Giese, Ford and Penhall were working at the Welfare Branch during the whole of her time there. Mr Milliken was there when she left and she thought that he had arrived about a year after she came. She described Babe Damaso, who was part Filipino, as the first coloured welfare officer. He was in Darwin as a welfare officer throughout the time that Mrs Moy was there. She said that she remembered Colin MacLeod and Jeremy Long, two witnesses for the Commonwealth, both of whom were patrol officers stationed at Darwin at some stage whilst she was there. She also remembered Bill Harney, another patrol officer; he also was stationed at Darwin at some stage whilst she was there. She referred to other officers but as they have not played any significant part in the history of these matters I have not taken time to mention them. Mrs Moy did not remember the name Dentith and although she recognised the name McCaffrey she was not sure whether she had ever met him. She could not remember Ray Vincent and she referred to Reg Worthy, incorrectly, as "a Minister". In the meantime, Mrs Moy and her husband had divorced and much later, in about 1975, she married Mr Frank Moy who had been in earlier times, and prior to Mrs Moy's arrival in Darwin, the Director of Native Affairs in the Northern Territory. 693 Mrs Moy's description of Darwin, at the time of her appointment, was of some interest in helping to understand the living conditions in the town at that time. She said that there was a woman's hostel called Abbott House; it was very primitive and she did not have any privacy; there were only a few white women in the town and it was necessary for them to share rooms. There was no separate accommodation for her and her two children. The younger child, a daughter, had to be placed in a boarding school for pre-school children in Sydney whilst her son was sent to Holland to her mother-in-law to be educated there. It was two years before Mrs Moy was able to obtain a Government flat. When she obtained that, she was able to bring her daughter up from Sydney. Later, when she obtained a Government house, she brought her son out from Holland. 694 As a welfare officer, Mrs Moy said that her responsibilities did not extend to full blood Aboriginals. She was concerned with part Aboriginal people and white people. Her concerns were centred upon matters of welfare – whether a child was in need of care. If, in the performance of her duties, she was of the opinion that a child was in need of care, it would be reported to Mr Giese, the Director of Welfare, and to the State Children's Council. If there was any element of criminality, then it would also be reported to the police. Mrs Moy said that if she came across a child who was in need of care, her first efforts would be to try and correct the position in the home, but, if that was unsuccessful, then, in the final analysis, the State Children's Council could step in and remove the child and place it in the Retta Dixon Home or one of the other institutions. 695 The Annual Report of the State Children's Council for the Northern Territory for the financial year ending 30 June 1957 was compiled and signed by Mrs Moy in her capacity as the Secretary of the Council. By this time, Lorna Nelson had left Retta Dixon. According to the report, forty-five children were in the custody of the Council at the end of the financial year. Two were identified by name as being in custody because of the commission of criminal offences. The remaining forty-three were either described as a "destitute child" or a "neglected child". The report then addressed the identity and location of those additional children who were wards. The report said that there were seventy-eight wards in various institutions, either in the Northern Territory or in other States, or in placement with foster parents. According to that report, six wards were placed in the care of Retta Dixon Home during the 1956-1957 financial year. There was a section in that report in which it was stated that action to remove any child was taken "only after every effort has been made to instruct the parents to improve their home environment and to teach the mother the elements of child rearing." That passage was put to Mrs Moy during the course of her cross-examination and she reaffirmed the contents of the report because she agreed with the cross-examiner that "to remove a child from a family was something that was done as a last resort". She further agreed that it was "important that a child should be raised in a family". 696 The Annual Report of the State Children's Council for the Northern Territory for the financial year ending on 30June 1958 contained a significant passage; it was the description of the supervision that was conducted by the Council of the children who had been placed in care by the Council. It recorded that Mrs Moy, as the Secretary, had in the course of her duty: "… investigated the living conditions of each ward and interviewed all foster parents and superintendents of missions as well as the Matron and cottage mother of that institution. If the child was attending school, the Secretary interviewed the Head teacher and class teacher, and where necessary, the Vocational guidance officer. A full report on each child was made available to the Council with recommendations, and in all cases, Council has proceeded with the necessary action." 697 Mrs Moy said that, as a welfare officer, she was aware of many cases of single mothers with children. She said that their circumstances were "extremely difficult"; when asked to explain what she meant by that statement, she said that they had nowhere to live, they had men chasing after them, they had children every year and they had no way of supporting themselves. She then went on to say that there was always the risk of the child being killed "and twins they certainly would". Mrs Moy agreed in cross-examination that there were difficulties for young part Aboriginal women in Darwin in the 1950s. There were difficulties in getting work and there were difficulties in getting accommodation. Those difficulties were exacerbated if there was no family support for such a young woman. Her evidence, which I accept, gave some indication of the circumstances that existed in and about Darwin at about the time that Lorna Nelson left the Retta Dixon Home and entered the workforce. 698 Mrs Moy knew both Sister Eileen and Miss Shankelton. She described Sister Eileen as a "very caring person" and "a strong missionary too". Mrs Moy said that it was her practice to visit Miss Shankelton at the Retta Dixon Home but not to interfere with the running of the Home. She described Miss Shankelton as "a very sour lady" but one who was "very concerned about running the home as efficiently as possible". Mrs Moy was of the opinion that Miss Shankelton did not like the Welfare Branch because it tried, so she thought, to interfere in the running of the Home. Mrs Moy did not have any other contact with any other staff member; she limited her contact to Miss Shankelton. 699 According to the evidence of Mrs Moy, decisions about children going home from Retta Dixon on holidays were jointly made by her and by Miss Shankelton. Mrs Moy said that she would prevent a child going home only if she had reason to doubt the suitability of the child's home life. 700 Mrs Moy said that she had no recollections about the subject of corporal punishment at the Retta Dixon Home, save that Mr Giese had attempted to place a total ban on it. On 4 January 1956, Mr Collins, the Acting Director of the Aborigines Inland Mission, wrote Mr Giese on the subject of corporal punishment. The Reverend Egerton Long, the Director, was overseas at that time; he did not return to Australia until the middle of 1956. At the time when Mr Collins wrote his letter, Miss Shankelton was on annual leave and Mr Stretton was acting as Superintendent of the Home. In his letter, Mr Collins noted that: "Mr Stretton tells us that corporal punishment of any sort is forbidden by your Department, and naturally the whole of our Darwin staff are greatly concerned about this." On 3 February 1956, Mr Giese sent a telegram to the Aborigines Inland Mission, acknowledging that he was aware that the mission's Darwin staff were greatly concerned that corporal punishment "on my wards is forbidden". Mr Giese then went on to state in his telegram: "I should like to confirm that corporal punishment is not to be inflicted on my wards in any circumstances. This derives from plain facts that I have no authority to authorise corporal punishment and secondly that as legal guardian I have a duty." The minutes of the Field Council of the Aborigines Inland Mission, dated Friday 3 February 1956, recorded that Mr Stretton had reported that two girls at the Retta Dixon Home were causing trouble by absenting themselves at night time. It was recorded in the minutes that Mr Giese had stressed that "you can't put a hand on the girls and if you do there will be civil action". 701 The receipt of this advice led to the Aborigines Inland Mission waiting upon the Minister, Sir Paul Hasluck, who received a deputation in Sydney on 24 February 1956. The Minister promised the deputation that he would make inquiries; he wrote the Secretary of his Department, Mr Lambert on 29 February, asking him to take up with the mission the question of corporal punishment at the Retta Dixon Home. In a letter dated 5 March 1956 that Mr Lambert wrote to the Administrator of the Northern Territory, Mr Lambert recorded that the Minister had commented in his memorandum of 29 February that: "The stand taken by the Director of Welfare seems to be rather far-fetched and unreal. While we have to take every precaution to see that the wards are treated properly I cannot understand how discipline can be maintained in all circumstances without some corporal punishment." It was plain from that memorandum that Sir Paul Hasluck, whilst recognising the need for "precautions", considered Mr Giese to be wrong in his views on corporal punishment; yet today, it would generally be acknowledged that Mr Giese's views were correct; a material change in attitude towards corporal punishment of children has taken place in the last forty or fifty years. Mr Milliken was aware of Mr Giese's views on corporal punishment but he did not share them; he thought that it could be necessary in some circumstances. 702 The problem of corporal punishment continued unabated; on 4 February 1958, the Administrator of the day, Mr Archer, wrote the Secretary, Department of Territories in Canberra on the subject of "Corporal Punishment – Retta Dixon Home". The Administrator said that he felt that there was a: "… need to examine the whole question fully with a view to attempting to define a clear policy for general application in our schools and welfare institutions which would control and regulate the use of corporal punishment by defining the types and quantum of the punishment, to whom and by whom it may be administered, and the types of offences that are punishable in this way." The Administrator attached to his letter, for the information of the Minister, a brief statement that had been prepared by the Director of Welfare, Mr Giese. The statement summarised discussions that had taken place that day, 4 February, between the Director of Welfare and his senior staff with Miss Shankelton, her staff and the Reverend Egerton Long. Mr Giese had backed away from his earlier total prohibition, no doubt because of the Minister's reaction, for he recorded the results of the meeting in these terms: "It was accepted in these discussions that there was a need for corporal punishment for some of the very difficult cases, but that as a general principle there should be no corporal punishment of adolescent girls by members of the staff, and particularly by male members of the staff, until such time as the case had been thoroughly investigated by welfare officers of the Welfare Branch." Reverend Long was aware of Mr Giese's attitude towards corporal punishment. He knew that Mr Giese was opposed to it on the basis that the children were the wards of the Director and he knew that Mr Giese would not "abrogate his position as their guardian to anyone, and that corporal punishment was forbidden with regard to those children for whom he was … a guardian. [H]e was quite strong on that point". Reverend Long said that, as a compromise and in an attempt to meet Mr Giese's demands, a decision was made that no punishment could be inflicted "unless it was done in Miss Shankelton's, the Superintendent's presence". 703 Mrs Moy said that she could not recall a girl at Retta Dixon by the name of Lorna Nelson; she could not recall an occasion when Lorna Nelson went to her office and told her that she had hit a Mr Walter, one of the missionaries at the Retta Dixon Home; she could not recall a Mr Walter. Mrs Moy went so far as to say that she had no recollection of a child from Retta Dixon coming to her office to tell her that she had struck a missionary. It was Mrs Moy's belief that, if such an event had occurred and a child from Retta Dixon had told her that the child had struck a missionary, she – Mrs Moy – would have investigated the matter. She believes she would have gone to Miss Shankelton and she would have passed on the information to Mr Les Penhall for transmission to Mr Giese. Asked what she would have done if a child from Retta Dixon had come to her showing marks of injuries, Mrs Moy unhesitatingly said that she would have reported the matter to the police. No evidence was lead to explain why the Kellys took Lorna to the Welfare Office before taking her to the Retta Dixon Home. Mrs Cubillo could not explain it; she thought they were driving to Paddy's place of employment. Somehow, I do not think that the whole story of the events at the Kelly's home and Mrs Moy's office have been told because, unless it is accepted as a coincidence, Mrs Moy visited the Retta Dixon Home on the same day as she interviewed Lorna in her office. Mrs Cubillo was questioned about Mrs Moy's visit: "Right. But you understood that the purpose of her visit was to ensure that you were okay? --- I did not understand anything about her visit to the home. Did you tell Barbara Cummings in the course of preparing the book that the welfare officer appeared at the Retta Dixon Home some time later to ensure that Lorna was okay? --- I may have said that assuming she came out to see how I was." According to Mrs Cubillo, Polly and Paddy later drove her back to the Retta Dixon Home from the Welfare Office. Mrs Cubillo said that she was surprised that she was not further punished. According to her, Mr Walter left the Retta Dixon Home "within a few months of the time of the incident". 704 Ms Hollingworth submitted on behalf of the Commonwealth that, in the face of lengthy and vigorous cross-examination about a number of alleged abuses of Mrs Cubillo, Mr Walter remained "calm and composed". It was suggested that his demeanour in the witness box supported Mrs Treloar's assessment of him – as someone unlikely to have lost control of himself – as someone unlikely to have lashed out at Lorna in a rage. I have had due regard to that submission; I have not overlooked Mrs Treloar's assessment of him. I also am conscious that Mrs Ruby Matthews spoke well of him. Even though he is not a litigant in the case and, therefore, one should be most reluctant to make critical and adverse findings against a witness, I remain compelled to state that my conclusion favours the evidence of Mrs Cubillo. 705 Bearing in mind the Briginshaw test, I am satisfied that Mr Walter struck Lorna with the buckle of his trouser belt during the course of this incident. It was not a question of his word against hers: there were several items of evidence that corroborated Mrs Cubillo's evidence. First, there was the evidence of Mrs Katona; next there was the evidence of Mrs Maxine Hill. Then it must be remembered that no challenge was raised to the evidence that seven of the Retta Dixon girls left the party and made their own way back to Darwin. Berry Springs is about fifty kilometres from Darwin; there was no public transport. Something very serious and very frightening must have happened to cause seven young girls to run away like that. Finally, where was Mrs Walter? 706 The absence of Mrs Walter as a witness was of critical significance as she is still alive and was alleged to have been present at the scene of the punishment. The case for the Commonwealth was that I should infer, from the state of all the evidence, that Mr Walter only administered mild punishment to all of the girls who had disobeyed his orders. Commercial Union Assurance Co v Ferrcom Pty Ltd (1991) 22 NSWLR 389 at 418-419, which was affirmed by the High Court, is authority for the proposition that the court may decline to draw a particular inference if it concludes that a party had available a witness who could have given direct evidence of that fact if it were true, but declined to call that witness. Because of the absence of Mrs Walter, I decline to draw an inference that the punishment that Mr Walter handed out on that day at Berry Springs was "mild" or "appropriate". I consider that I have acted with care and caution in finding that this serious allegation has been established. I have reached a degree of satisfaction, consistently with the statements made in Briginshaw and Neat Holdings, conscious of, and recognising the significance and gravity of those findings. In particular, I have been assisted in making such findings and reaching the required degree of satisfaction by the further evidence of the Dentith report, the oral evidence of Mrs Katona and Mrs Hill and the absence of Mrs Walter. The Interview of Lorna Cubillo by Mai Katona 707 Exhibit R55 is a four page typewritten document which carried the heading: "INTERVIEW WITH LORNA CUBILLO, NEE NELSON (TAKEN FROM NOTES) INTERVIEWER MAI KATONA" 708 It was neither dated nor signed but it purported to be a summary of an interview that Mrs Mai Katona had with Mrs Cubillo. The information that was contained in this exhibit was of value to Mrs Cubillo in the sense that it confirmed many aspects of the evidence that she had given to the Court. It also added some additional items of information that Mrs Cubillo had not addressed in her evidence in chief. For example the following passage in that exhibit is attributed to Mrs Cubillo: "My country men feared the Europeans because of the Coniston Massacre. The mothers said that if they objected to the childrens' removal they might be shot. One of my aunties witnessed the Coniston Massacre so that fear has always been referred to even to this day." 709 In her cross-examination, Mrs Cubillo said that her people still feared the Europeans because of the massacre. Passing reference to that dreadful event was made by Toohey J in his report on the Warlmanpa, Warlpiri, Mudbura and Warumungu Land Claim, Australian Government Publishing Service, Canberra, 1982. His Honour said at 12: "People living within the claim area traditionally relied on access to the better watered parts of their country which lie outside. As these areas were alienated, to pastoralists and miners for instance, access to water became more restricted. Violence occurred and the dry season of 1927-28 which spread across a large area of central Australia was a factor in the Coniston and Hanson River killings. These events are still alive in the minds of close relatives of people killed at the time and form part of the oral tradition passed on to succeeding generations." Ms Vaarzon-Morel said that the Coniston Massacre in 1928 caused the movement of the Warlpiri people from the Coniston-Willowra region east of Tennant Creek. 710 One subject matter that does call for comment, as it showed the inconsistencies of memory, was the statement in that interview that was attributed to Mrs Cubillo to the effect that Miss Shankelton spent three weeks at Phillip Creek before the children were moved to Darwin. Mrs Cubillo denied that she ever made any such statement. I am satisfied that Miss Shankelton did not spend that period of time at the Settlement as I accept the contents of the article in the newsletter "Our Aim". Three weeks was a mistake; but whether the mistake was Mrs Cubillo's or Mrs Katona's, I have no way of knowing. 711 The structure of exhibit R55 was twofold. In the first instance there was a short narrative of ten lines telling how Mrs Cubillo was one of sixteen children who had been removed from Phillip Creek to the Retta Dixon Home. Then there purported to be a series of questions attributed to Mai Katona and answers attributed to Lorna. This document was put to Mrs Cubillo for the first time in the trial during the course of her cross-examination. Surprisingly, she vehemently rejected it to the point of rudeness. Cross-examination commenced with a question: "did you give an interview to Mai … Katona in or about 1990?" The answer from Mrs Cubillo was most forceful: "I have never spoken to Mai Katona. Mai is not even a friend of mine; she's just a person I grew up with." The force with which Mrs Cubillo spoke may be gauged from the following passage in the transcript. Ms Hollingworth, counsel for the Commonwealth, asked Mrs Cubillo to read exhibit R55, Mrs Cubillo replied that reading it would take some time. Ms Hollingworth then addressed the Bench suggesting a short adjournment. To this Mrs Cubillo interjected saying: "Can I interrupt you two. Because I don't want to be discussing a paper that I had nothing to do with. I had no interview with this person …" Mrs Cubillo did not have her way. Cross-examination continued after she acknowledged that she had read the document; she still denied, most strenuously, that she had ever spoken to Mai Katona. She went so far as to say: "Okay. Well, I have not spoken to Mai Katona about my life ever." 712 Mrs Cubillo's answers to questions in cross-examination about the personal circumstances of Mrs Katona were most difficult to accept: "And Mai Knight? --- She's still around as far … Does she have another surname now? Do you know if that's still her name? --- I think her name is Mai Katona. And she lives in Darwin? --- I believe she does. Well, she's been present in court for part of these proceedings, hasn't she? --- Well, I would say – she lives here, I don't have any contact with this person, but I believe she lives in Darwin. You've seen Mai Katona here in court haven't you? --- That's not to say that she doesn't live here, but I believe she lives here. I don't have any contact with Mai. Have you or have you not seen …? --- I have seen Mai Katona in the court." 713 The cross-examiner had to ask Mrs Cubillo three times whether she agreed that Mrs Katona had been in Court before a direct answer was forthcoming. I am unable to explain her vacillation over such an innocuous issue. This, and Mrs Cubillo's reaction to exhibit R55, suggested that there may be deep antipathy between these women for reasons that were not explained during the trial. 714 Exhibit R55 was put to Mrs Katona during the course of her cross-examination. She recognised it as a document that she had prepared in conjunction with a Mr Derek Fowle. Mrs Katona said that she had a discussion with Mrs Cubillo sometime in 1989 or 1990 and that part of that discussion had been about the matters that were set out in exhibit R55. Although Mr Fowle helped with the preparation of exhibit R55, he was not present at the discussion between Mrs Katona and Mrs Cubillo. The notes that Mrs Katona made at the time of the discussion were not tendered but, so she said, they formed in part, the basis of the content of exhibit R55 which was prepared some months after the discussion. 715 As her cross-examination progressed, Mrs Katona became decidedly uncomfortable about the contents of exhibit R55. In its structure of questions and answers, it gave the appearance that it had recorded exactly what had been asked and what had been answered. It became apparent after a while that this was not, in fact, the truth of the matter. Rather, it would seem that, some months after the discussion, Mrs Katona had participated in an exercise in which she composed, according to her memory and her interpretation of her notes, what might have been asked and what might have been answered. She also conceded that she never sent a copy (of exhibit R55) to Mrs Cubillo nor did she make any attempt to have Mrs Cubillo verify the accuracy of its contents. 716 Curiously, the misapprehension that Mrs Katona created in respect of her preparation of exhibit R55 did not assume the same significance in the trial as it obviously did in Mrs Katona's conscience. By and large, its contents were reasonably consistent with Mrs Cubillo's oral testimony. A matter of grave importance in this trial was Mrs Cubillo's steadfast refusal to acknowledge that she ever did have any discussion with Mai Katona about the subject matters that were canvassed in exhibit R55. I cannot see any way open to me that would enable me to reconcile their evidence; it was, I find, irreconcilably contradictory. One of them must be deliberately attempting to mislead the Court. The subject matter of the discussion and the document was pursued exhaustively with each of them. There was no room for a gentle finding that there might have been a lapse of memory. I have come to the conclusion that I prefer Mrs Katona's evidence; but in making that finding, I must concede that I cannot understand why Mrs Cubillo would have denied the existence of the discussion: to have admitted it would not have harmed her cause in the slightest. Mrs Katona was called as a witness for Mrs Cubillo – not for the Commonwealth; there was no apparent reason for her to concoct the record of interview. The combination of those factors has persuaded me to choose the evidence of Mrs Katona. Indeed, Mr Rush, in his final submissions, conceded that some meeting took place, submitting, however, that Mrs Cubillo apparently had no recollection of it. I find, contrary to Mrs Cubillo's evidence, that there was a discussion between the two women and that exhibit R55 refers to the subject matters that were discussed. There is no need to make any further findings; in particular it is not necessary to consider whether the exhibit records accurately the words spoken by the two women. With a mixture of puzzlement and regret, I must conclude that Mrs Cubillo deliberately attempted to mislead the Court on this issue. 717 Lorna left school at the end of year eight. However, she continued to reside at the Retta Dixon Home for a further nine months. In that time she worked as a domestic in the homes of various people. One of them, the late Mr Withnall, a well known Darwin legal practitioner, at Lorna's request, arranged for her to have an interview with the Matron of the Darwin Hospital. Lorna had said that she wanted to do nursing. According to her evidence, she had the interview, completed a test and was told that she would be informed by letter of the result in due course. She said that she never heard from the Hospital. Instead, she was confronted by Miss Shankelton who told her that she was "deceitful; that I'd done something without her knowledge". That was a very difficult passage of evidence to accept. Although still a resident at Retta Dixon Home, Lorna was, by this time, almost eighteen years of age; she had left school; she was in the workforce; she had told Miss Shankelton that she was not interested in Bible Studies at Singleton College. In those circumstances, her evidence must mean that Miss Shankelton opened a letter that was addressed to Lorna and withheld its contents from her. If this be true, it marks Miss Shankelton as a very small-minded, spiteful woman and that description is at odds with the manner in which she has been described by other witnesses in this trial. In fact, there was other evidence in the trial that showed that Miss Shankelton was active in promoting nursing as a career for her girls. Mrs Harris, for example, named some Retta Dixon girls who went nursing. It was no great surprise to hear Mrs Cubillo's counsel announce, during the course of closing submissions, that this allegation was not pursued. By then, the damage had been done however; Mrs Cubillo had made the accusation. I can only repeat that it served as another example of how Mrs Cubillo has built up an intense feeling of hurt – perhaps even hatred – about her days at Retta Dixon. 718 Lorna left the Retta Dixon Home in October 1956, when the Home found her a position as a live-in housekeeper. However, she only held that position for three months, marrying Joseph Cubillo in the following January. The eldest of Mr and Mrs Cubillo's six children is now forty-two and the youngest is twenty-eight. Her marriage was not a happy one. She agreed that her husband was a violent man. He also gambled and drank to excess. During her early married life and throughout her pregnancies, Mrs Cubillo worked as an office cleaner or as a domestic in private homes. She said that, for about ten years, she worked from four o'clock in the morning until midday and then again, from four o'clock in the afternoon until ten o'clock at night. Asked why she worked such long hours, she said: "During this time my husband drank so heavily there were times he couldn't go to work so we reversed the role and he became the housekeeper and I became the breadwinner." 719 On 8 August 1972, Mrs Cubillo obtained permanent employment as a cleaner with the Welfare Branch at Essington House, a juvenile detention centre. Later, in 1980, she was able to advance herself by obtaining clerical work in the office of the Branch. With this advancement Mrs Cubillo went to night school to learn typing. The whole of Mrs Cubillo's evidence established that she has, and always has had, iron-willed determination and intelligence. Even though, as she claimed, she deliberately did poorly in some examinations in order to diminish Miss Shankelton's enthusiasm to send her to the Bible College, she still managed to score 100 per cent for her bookkeeping. She was also the only child at the Retta Dixon Home at that time to progress into High School. 720 On 17 February 1988, Mrs Cubillo suffered an injury whilst she was at work. She has had manipulation to her neck and a lumbar puncture of the spine in an effort to recuperate from that injury, but without success. It was put to her in cross-examination, and she agreed, that she tried to go back to work initially – that she was a hard worker who wanted to go back to work. I can readily accept that evidence. Mrs Cubillo's working life has shown that she has had a very strong work ethic. Unfortunately however, her injuries made a return to work impossible. The pain persisted and she remains unable to return to her work. As a result, she has been on medication since the injury. Her medical condition has further deteriorated with the onset of ulcers and arthritis, both of which she attributed to her work place injury. Mrs Cubillo agreed that she found it very stressful not knowing whether her injury would ever permit her to return to work again. It was 7 November 1990, almost three years after the accident, before her employer wrote her: "The report of the Commonwealth Medical Officer has now been received, and it is his decision that you be retired on the grounds of invalidity. I will need to advise you on: 1. Right of appeal against decision 2. Superannuation entitlements 3. Most beneficial date of retirement 4. Procedures for re-employment and will require your consent to retire, before retirement can be fully implemented, and the Public Service Commissioner advised. …" Even so, for some unexplained reason, her retirement on the grounds of invalidity did not occur until 16 September 1991, over ten months after the letter. Since then, and until 1998, she has been in receipt of workers' compensation. 721 Mrs Cubillo has had a very hard life. In addition to her injury in early 1988, she was diagnosed in 1989 as having cancer; she underwent two operations and had to go to Brisbane for radiotherapy treatment. It was also at about this time that her marriage failed. Mrs Cubillo was reluctant to discuss some of these matters, as is evident from the following passage of her cross-examination: "Yes. Okay. And you told Doctor Schmidt that since the onset of your neck pain your life had essentially fallen apart with a failed marriage, having to give away university courses and of suicidal thoughts, didn't you? --- I'm not sure I mentioned any of those things. Well, have a look at page 2 on Doctor Schmidt's letter, would you? Do you see the third paragraph where he records that since the onset of your neck pain you told him that your life had essentially fallen apart with a failed marriage, having to give away university courses and of suicidal thoughts? --- And I must stress that he was acting for the Commonwealth. Did you tell Doctor Schmidt that your life was falling apart because of your failed marriage, giving away university courses and suicidal thoughts? --- He did encourage me to talk about my life, but he did not physically examine me. If you'd just answer the question, did you tell him those matters that are set out in that paragraph or not? --- Yes, I did." 722 Mrs Cubillo has had a troubled history with her former employer's medical advisers. Apparently some of them had recommended that she be retired on the grounds of invalidity but those recommendations were not initially accepted. Mrs Cubillo agreed that she was distressed over this. As she put it : "Yes, I was stuffed around"; she agreed also that this distress "continued for over three or four years …". I have concluded that her distress was severe. Mrs Cubillo agreed that she was examined by a Dr Jane Isherwood-Hicks who, in October 1990, wrote of her that she continues to suffer anxiety and "depressed affect symptoms as a consequence of her chronic pain condition in her shoulder, head, neck and hips". Mrs Cubillo agreed that Dr Isherwood-Hicks, who had examined her on behalf of her employer, also told her in October 1990 that, in her opinion, Mrs Cubillo's current psychological stress would not get better until a decision about Mrs Cubillo's retirement was finalised. Mrs Cubillo saw Dr Isherwood-Hicks again in January 1991; she agreed that the Doctor had written on that occasion that Mrs Cubillo continued to suffer from chronic pain and she also agreed that the doctor's report correctly stated her condition; Mrs Cubillo added that she suffers the pain "to this day". She is now restricted at times in her movements and her daily activities. These restrictions led to her being asked in cross-examination: "I put it to you that for someone who was previously as active and as hardworking as you were, to be restricted physically in this way was a cause of great distress to you? --- True. And it was causing such distress that you were contemplating suicide because you felt helpless and unable to look after yourself? --- That's true." 723 With a measure of reluctance, Mrs Cubillo also agreed that she had suffered nausea, vomiting and migraines for many years prior to her work related injury and that, as a consequence, she had made frequent visits for medical attention. Even though allowance must be made for Mrs Cubillo's pregnancies, and the effect that they might have had on her general health, it seems to me that the concessions that Mrs Cubillo offered during the course of her cross-examination pointed to her being a person who did not enjoy good physical health. Prior to her injury at work in 1988, she had suffered migraines and nausea for about twenty years of such intensity that she required frequent medical attention. She also agreed that in that time she suffered dizziness and anxiety. Since 1988 she has additionally suffered recurring pain in her neck, back and hips as a result of the injury that she suffered at her work. To that most unfortunate history, must be added her cancer of the thyroid in 1989. 724 Mrs Cubillo said that it was about this time (1989) that she and her husband divorced; he subsequently died in 1994; he had been a violent man who had assaulted her on a number of occasions. Mrs Cubillo said that she had attempted suicide in 1975 by taking an overdose of sleeping pills. It was put to her in cross-examination that this was a result of her husband's violence towards her. She answered by saying: "I grew up in a violent situation from my childhood and it continued on." The question was repeated and this time Mrs Cubillo answered saying that it was partly through their losing everything as a result of Cyclone Tracy "plus the situation with my husband". At a later stage of her cross-examination she conceded that her marriage had been difficult and violent. 725 Mrs Cubillo is presently caring for her two grandchildren, Joseph and Russell. They are the children of her son Phillip. She has been caring for them for over ten years because, as she said, their mother abandoned them. Distressing though the subject was to her, Mrs Cubillo was pressed in cross-examination until she conceded that Phillip was a drug addict and that he had been in and out of gaol over a considerable period of time. Two other sons had also been in trouble with the law and one of them had also been in gaol; a fourth son has some form of intellectual impairment. One can begin to understand how worrying all of this would be for a mother. 726 Towards the end of her cross-examination, Mrs Cubillo agreed to a proposition that she held the Commonwealth responsible for her misfortunes. The following passage in the evidence, vague though it is, is an indication of her personal attitude: "One final question, Mrs Cubillo; is it fair to say from the way you answered the questions yesterday when I was asking about your worker's compensation claim and some of the other questions I've asked you, that you blame the government for the way your life has turned out? --- I would say so. I became a very confused mixed-up person, no-one to turn to. And do you think the Commonwealth should pay for what's happened to you in your life? --- I will say they're responsible." 727 Those answers were somewhat ambivalent. The reference to the worker's compensation claim suggested that in her answers, Mrs Cubillo was agreeing to a proposition that she held the Commonwealth responsible for all the misfortunes that have befallen her as a result of her work related injury. Her answers pointed to an exclusive sense of grievance against the Commonwealth, such that it becomes important to weigh her evidence most carefully before accepting it. There was no suggestion from Mrs Cubillo then, or at any other stage of her evidence, that the Aborigines Inland Mission or Miss Shankelton or Mr Walter or any of the other missionaries should be held responsible for any part of her sufferings – she heaped all the blame on the Commonwealth. 728 Under cross-examination Mrs Cubillo became progressively defensive, evasive and argumentative. One example of her evasiveness during her cross-examination occurred when she was questioned about her work related injuries and the recommendation by one of the examining doctors that she needed psychological counselling. In short, she was asked whether a Dr Schmidt recommended to her that she needed psychological counselling "to get back on [her] feet". That question was asked and an evasive answer was given on four occasions. On the fifth occasion she was asked: "Do you remember whether he said to you that you should get psychological treatment to deal with your work injury?" Reluctantly Mrs Cubillo replied: "Am I – yes, I would say he did say that." 729 In some respects she created an unfavourable impression, causing me to have doubts about some – but by no means all – of her evidence. I am satisfied, for example, that she was the victim of a severe beating at the hands of Mr Walter – and that he used the buckle end of his belt; that the beating was so severe, that it drew blood. That would be intolerable conduct today and it would have been intolerable at the time when it occurred. I am satisfied that Mr Walter placed his hand on the upper part of her leg when they were in the car. That was improper conduct – then and now. I am also satisfied that Mrs Cubillo was unhappy at the Retta Dixon Home; she pined for her family – she felt unloved and unwanted. However, I cannot say that this was the fault of Miss Shankelton and the other missionaries. It was, more likely, the result of Lorna's personality and character. 730 Mrs Cubillo is a woman of above average intelligence. Her history has shown that she is also a woman of great determination and courage. On the other hand, she has suffered tragically throughout her life. She was separated from her family and her community and taken to a strange new environment. She could not adapt at Retta Dixon; she was unhappy throughout her time there and that unhappiness was accentuated by the gross misbehaviour of Mr Walter. The benefits from her ultimate escape from Retta Dixon and the new life that it brought were short lived. Her husband became a vicious, drunken gambler; she mothered six children, having to work – sometimes in two jobs – throughout her pregnancies to support herself, her children and her husband. Some of her children have let her down; two have served gaol terms. One suffers some form of mental illness. Now a widow, she has the care of two grandchildren because their parents, both addicts, are either unable or unwilling to care for them. In all of these tribulations, she had managed to study and improve herself so that she obtained office employment with the government, only to suffer a debilitating injury that now prevents her from returning to the workforce. Is it any wonder that a person who has suffered such hardship and misery would lash out in search of those responsible? Mrs Cubillo has, understandably, built up a tremendous sense of grievance and the litigious process has turned that sense of grievance against the Commonwealth to the exclusion of all others. 731 The interrelationship between the Native Affairs Branch and the Aborigines Inland Mission while Lorna was living at Seven Mile Creek, Six Mile Creek and Phillip Creek was not sufficiently explained in evidence. The depot at Six Mile Creek was managed at one stage by Mr Arnold Long and his wife Dorothy; at another time, it was managed by Mr James Davy. They may have been of some assistance to the Court – I do not think so – but all are dead and no contemporaneous documentary material has been found that would show the extent to which the Native Affairs Branch claimed or exercised any coercive power over Lorna while she was living at either depot or at the Phillip Creek Settlement. 732 The widow of Mr Davy, who was with him at the Six Mile Creek depot, is still alive and was, presumably available to the Commonwealth to give evidence. The applicants criticised the Commonwealth for not calling her. But there was nothing that called on the Commonwealth to lead evidence in respect of Lorna's stay at either of the depots at Seven Mile Creek and Six Mile Creek. There was no allegation that she was unlawfully removed to or unlawfully detained at those depots. In fact, there was no allegation that she was unlawfully removed from the care of her family at Banka Banka Station. The absence of such an allegation was, in my opinion, a paradox. Her story, dramatic and frightening, of a small child being forcibly taken from her grandmother's care by two strangers on horseback would be, if true, outrageous. Mrs Cubillo's counsel fought to lead that evidence against the objections of the Commonwealth; yet having succeeded in establishing its relevance, he did not thereafter pursue the removal as the basis for any cause of action. 733 Mr Thomas, the missionary at the Phillip Creek Settlement, or his wife, Elsie, or Mr Colley, the schoolteacher, might have assisted with evidence on the subject of the relationship between the Native Affairs Branch and the Aborigines Inland Mission. Of more importance, would have been their evidence about the children's removal and the events leading up to their removal; but they are dead. 734 Although the Court had the benefit of the evidence of the sisters Napanangka and the sisters Napurrula, the evidence that was led about Lorna's immediate family was inconclusive. Her grandmother had died, but when? Was Maisie living at Phillip Creek as claimed by Kathleen Napanangka or did she only visit Lorna from time to time as claimed by Mrs Cubillo? Even though I have accepted Kathleen's evidence that Maisie was at Phillip Creek (and not at Banka Banka), there was no evidence of her relationship with or contact with Lorna. What particular ties did Lorna have to Maisie or to any other adult female person at Phillip Creek? She slept in a dormitory with other part Aboriginal children; presumably she played with them; and there was some schooling. But did Lorna have a direct and personal relationship with some member of the Aboriginal community or was it just a larger, enveloping relationship with the group at large? And if it was the latter, how would that have been viewed through the eyes of European missionaries? What did they know about Aboriginal culture? Did they know about its depth and the care that a child could receive from the community? What did they know about Maisie and her relationship to Lorna? Did they see Lorna as an orphan to be placed in an institution such as the Retta Dixon Home where she could receive a western education? And, whether they saw her as an orphan or not, what prompted them – or whoever the decision-maker may have been – to remove Lorna from Phillip Creek and place her in the Retta Dixon Home. The vast period of time – from 1947 to 1999 when the evidence was presented at trial – has seen the deaths of every person, other than Mr Penhall, who might have been able to answer those questions. The evidence of the sisters Napanangka and the sisters Napurrula did not assist in finding out what had motivated the officers of the Native Affairs Branch and the staff of the Aborigines Inland Mission when they participated in the removal of the children. Finally, the applicants' witness, Mr Worthy, acknowledged that during his time in the Northern Territory, 1962-1965, the general view – one that he did not personally agree with – was that neglected children had to be removed from their parents. I infer that such a view would have had like application at the time of Mrs Cubillo's removal. 735 I have already stated my reasons for concluding that I accept Mrs Cubillo's allegations against Mr Walter. He had the opportunity to attend Court and to put forth his versions of the events and he did so. It so happened that I did not accept that part of his evidence. However, Miss Shankelton has died; she was not able to defend herself against Mrs Cubillo's accusations of coldness and harsh discipline. Not only is Miss Shankelton dead, so also is Ms Dinham, Ms Spohn and Mr Streeton. Each of them figured prominently, either in the evidence of Mrs Cubillo or in that of some of her witnesses. Each of them might have been able to assist the Court if they had been alive to give evidence. Coupled with that fact, there was evidence from witnesses such as Mrs Treloar, Mrs Matthews, Mrs Harris and Sister Johnson that challenged Mrs Cubillo's evidence on these subjects. Having regard to the supportive evidence that was forthcoming from those witnesses, it would be most unfair to the memory of Miss Shankelton to accept Mrs Cubillo's evidence and now make adverse findings about the way in which Miss Shankelton conducted herself and managed the Retta Dixon Home. 736 The absence of all the witnesses represents, in totality, a gap of enormous dimensions; it is a gap that is so huge that it means that the Court has not been able to make numerous findings of fact that would have otherwise had a significant bearing on Mrs Cubillo's claim. The position has been exacerbated by the absence of contemporaneous documentation that might have established whether, and to what extent, the Director of Native Affairs claimed or exercised any coercive power in relation to the alleged removal of Lorna Nelson from Banka Banka. That missing documentation might also have addressed the Director's involvement in Lorna's removal from Phillip Creek. Peter Gunner and St Mary's Hostel 737 Sister Eileen, who was born in November 1905, was ninety-two years of age when she gave her evidence. She was a most remarkable witness. Quite apart from her dedication to the well being of the Aboriginal people, to which she has devoted most of her working life, her recollections of her work and her clarity of thought and expression were most impressive. She was an exceptional witness and I accept all aspects of her evidence without qualification. Sister Eileen undertook theological studies with the Anglican Church during the 1930s and was ordained as a Deaconess of the Church in 1938. Thereafter, she worked as a missionary with the Australian Board of Missions for several years at the Mogumber Settlement. That was an institution for Aborigines that was run by the Western Australian Government; it was on the Moore River, about 165 kilometres north of Perth. From the Mogumber Settlement, Sister Eileen moved to St Mary's where she stayed until November 1955. Sister Eileen explained that the idea for St Mary's Hostel for part Aboriginal children came from Father Leslie of the Anglican Church; it was he who approached her and persuaded her to take charge of the institution. Father Leslie was the parish priest at Alice Springs but the size of his parish was enormous; it covered a greater part of the Northern Territory. 738 In her affidavit of 25 June 1998 Sister Eileen talked of the early days at St Mary's: "18. Initially, we occupied one building on the site. It was very big, with about 10 rooms and I lived in that with the first 4 children, and with Mrs Schroder, who looked after the housekeeping. At that stage I had no idea how many children would be coming. 19. Word got around and it wasn't very long before we were requested to take more children. One aboriginal woman contacted me and asked me to take in her 2 children, which I did. Father Leslie did another of his station circuits and asked to take in some more children whose parents had asked or agreed for them to come in for schooling. They all came in together. 20. That's how St Mary's started. Right from that start, it was established and always operated as a hostel for part aboriginal children attending local school in Alice Springs. No education service was ever offered by St Mary's itself. For most of the time that I was in charge of St Mary's, there was a waiting list of children whose parents wanted them to attend, or who the Native Affairs Branch wanted us to look after." It was Sister Eileen's belief that the children who were wards of the Native Affairs Branch, and who were brought to St Mary's by patrol officers or welfare officers, were children who either had no one to care for them or who were neglected, abandoned or at risk in some way. In par 26 of her affidavit, Sister Eileen said: "To the best of my knowledge, no child who was admitted to St Mary's at the request of Native Affairs Branch could be termed a 'stolen child'." 739 Sister Eileen acknowledged, during the course of her cross-examination, that the bonding of a child to his or her family and its mother is a matter of importance and was a matter of importance in the 1950s. But she said that in most of the cases where children were brought to St Mary's by the Welfare Branch, they came with their mothers' consent. She was an advocate of removing part Aboriginal children, who lived in remote locations without educational facilities, so that they could receive an education. However, when asked what would happen if the child's mother did not consent, she replied: "If the mother did not consent the child would not be taken unless there were very serious reasons why the child should be removed, for neglect or violence …" 740 Sister Eileen discussed the attitude of part Aboriginal children to western education in her affidavit. She explained that until 1953, Alice Springs did not have a high school. Prior to that time, any child who wanted a secondary education generally went down to Adelaide and stayed at a boarding school or a hostel. In par 46 of her affidavit, Sister Eileen said, talking of part Aboriginal children, that "a few of the brighter boys went down to St Francis Hostel in Adelaide to obtain a high school education". The general impression that was to be gained from Sister Eileen's evidence was, however, that the girls seemed to be more interested in education than the boys who "wanted to be stockmen and do station work". In her last two years at St Mary's, Sister Eileen said that about half a dozen St Mary's children went on to the Alice Springs high school and three girls trained as nurses. 741 After leaving St Mary's, Sister Eileen worked as a welfare officer with the Welfare Branch of the Northern Territory Administration, initially, for a short while, in Darwin but later and until 1970 in Alice Springs. In 1970, she returned to St Mary's, working as a social worker, but not involving herself in matters of administration. She remained in that capacity until 1975 when she changed her direction so that she could do voluntary community work in Alice Springs with the town Aborigines. Sister Eileen retired in 1992. In that year she was named "Alice Springs Citizen of the Year". Earlier, in 1969, she had been awarded an MBE for her community work, including her work in the field of Aboriginal Welfare. These were only a few of the many awards and achievements of Sister Eileen. 742 The evidence of Sister Eileen, and its utility to these proceedings, must be assessed against the following factors; first, her evidence about her time at St Mary's in the late 1940s and early 1950s, and in particular, how it was administered, pre-dates Mr Gunner's residency at the Hostel. Secondly, although Mrs Cubillo was a resident of Retta Dixon Home at the time when Sister Eileen was supervising St Mary's, the institutions were 1500 kilometres apart, were run by different organisations and if evidence about one institution had any application to the other, that would be a matter of coincidence only. However, notwithstanding these qualifications, the evidence of Sister Eileen was very important because it made clear how she – and no doubt, others like her – worked with dedication and commitment for the welfare and betterment of the Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people. Her evidence was also important because it was something in the nature of a barometer; she was able to speak with authority about the plight of the part Aboriginal child in her time and about how she reacted to that plight. The evidence was not sufficient to support a finding that she was representative of the whole community (whether that be a local community or a larger Australia wide community); but I did accept her as a representative of some people who were working in the field of Aboriginal Welfare, as one who was well versed in the problems concerning that Welfare, and as a person whose views were worthy of the highest respect. 743 St Mary's Hostel, at Alice Springs, was established by Sister Eileen Heath in 1946 as a hostel for part Aboriginal children. Mrs Schroeder, an old friend of Sister Eileen's, came to Alice Springs with her and helped her with its establishment; she supervised the sewing and mending of clothes, assisted with the supervision of the children and did some of the cooking and housekeeping. She also looked after the children's pocket money and their school books. As Sister Eileen made clear, St Mary's was not an educational institution. It was a hostel where children from outlying areas could live whilst they attended school. 744 St Mary's was acquired by the Australian Board of Missions, an Anglican Mission organisation, shortly after the end of the Second World War. It is situated to the south of Alice Springs near Mt Blatherskite. During the war, it had been a rest home for service women and had been known as the Lady Gowrie Rest Home. On 19 December 1946, the Administrator of the Northern Territory, Mr Driver, granted St Mary's Church of England Hostel, Mount Blatherskite, Alice Springs, a licence under s 13 of the Aboriginals Ordinance to be "an Aboriginal Institution for the maintenance, custody and care of aboriginals and half-castes". On the same day, but by a different instrument, the Administrator named Deaconess Eileen Heath as the Superintendent of the institution. Formal advice of that declaration was forwarded to St Mary's under the cover of a letter dated 20 December 1946 from Mr Moy, the Director of Native Affairs. Later, on 17 April 1950, those licences were revoked and replaced with fresh licences limiting St Mary's activities to those of an "Aboriginal Institution for the maintenance, custody and care of half-castes". The early reference to the custody and care of Aboriginals was removed. In addition, Archdeacon Percy McD Smith, the Anglican Archdeacon for the Northern Territory was named as Superintendent of St Mary's, although Sister Eileen continued doing substantially the same work at the institution as she had performed whilst she was the nominated Superintendent. 745 St Mary's was not a large institution. Sister Eileen estimated that in her last year at the Hostel (which was 1955, the year before Peter Gunner's arrival) there were about seventy children. Their ages ranged from five to sixteen years of age. In addition to those children, there were another six or so girls who had finished school and who were working in Alice Springs; they had chosen to stay on living at St Mary's. The grounds of St Mary's were quite large – over 180 hectares. The mission had been able to acquire some buildings which were moved from an army base and re-erected at St Mary's as dormitories, ablution blocks and a laundry. By 1955, St Mary's had two dormitories for girls and two dormitories for boys. They were lined fibro buildings with louvred windows. The beds were positioned in rows with heads to the wall and each child had a locker or small wardrobe. The girls' ablution block was immediately beside their dormitory and was joined by a covered walkway; the boys' ablution block was adjacent, but not connected to their dormitory. By 1955, St Mary's had flush-toilets that operated on a septic system. Sister Eileen said that it was her practice to make a daily inspection of the dormitories, showers and toilets "to ensure that they were kept clean". 746 Exhibit EH3 to the first affidavit of Sister Eileen was a copy of an exercise book that she maintained during the later part of her time at St Mary's. The contents of the book, coupled with Sister Eileen's evidence, was informative in many respects. In the first place, it established, and I find, that there were part Aboriginal children residing at St Mary's in Sister Eileen's time whose parents were paying the Hostel an amount of money towards the cost of their board and keep. These payments were a clear indication that those children were residing at St Mary's at the request of and with the informed consent of some responsible member of their family. In the second place, the contents of the book also established, and I find, that there were other children then residing at St Mary's who were being maintained by the Native Affairs Branch. In the case of those children, it is not however possible to make any general statement that would explain the reason for their presence at St Mary's. In particular, it is not possible to make a finding such as they were there because they had been taken from their families by officers of the Native Affairs Branch without the consent of their families. 747 According to the evidence of Sister Eileen, the children's clothing was supplied by St Mary's; the boys and the girls each had a school uniform – shorts and shirts for the boys, tunics and blouses for the girls. If girls attended Guides or the children played sport, uniforms were supplied for those activities as well. Blouses and shirts were changed twice weekly: underwear was changed daily. The children changed into play clothes as soon as they returned from school. Sister Eileen added that they were allowed to wear their shoes after school "but they always seemed to prefer going around barefoot". Times must have been difficult in those days for St Mary's. Sister Eileen described how the boys' play clothing came from army clothes that were obtained as the soldiers left the Alice Springs area; they were cut down to fit the children by volunteers from the town who worked in sewing circles. Although new clothes were bought by St Mary's for the children's "best" clothes, the institution also depended on second hand clothes being donated from time to time. 748 The children's daily routine at St Mary's was described by Captain Steep during his evidence in chief. He succeeded Sister Eileen as Warden of St Mary's in 1956. The morning bell would ring at 6.30 am. The children would shower – or wash if they had showered the night before – and then go to breakfast but only after making their beds. Some children had kitchen duties: others prepared sandwiches for the lunches. A bus would take all the children to school; it left at 8.30 am. School finished at 3.30 pm and the children returned to St Mary's by about 4.00 pm. After changing their clothes, those children who had chores would attend to them. Wood had to be collected for the stoves and the kitchen and dining room had to be prepared for the evening meal. After tea, there was a short period of chapel; then there was time for play but the washing-up had to be finished first. Those children who had to do homework would do it after tea. "Lights out" was normally at 8.30 pm but it was difficult for the children to get to sleep on moon-light nights; those were the occasions when Mr Bald mustered up working parties to dig out the hole for the swimming pool. 749 Sister Eileen said in her affidavit that there was no policy of keeping children isolated from their families and their communities. As a general rule, those children who came from places that were close to Alice Springs went home to families during school holidays. Those children who did not go home were generally those who were prevented from doing so by isolation, distance, lack of transport or because they did not have families who would or could take them for the holidays. During her time at St Mary's, Sister Eileen arranged for those last mentioned children to have holidays in Adelaide where they were cared for by local Church groups. 750 Sister Eileen said, and again I accept her evidence, that there was never any policy against the children using their tribal language at St Mary's. She added that she did not believe that a child would ever have been punished at St Mary's for speaking a tribal language. 751 It must be recognised, as Sister Eileen made plain, that there was, however, a need for the children to learn English. In the first place, the children came from different districts and language groups – they did not have a common language. In the second place, none of the staff at St Mary's was able to converse in any tribal language. Finally, all the children's schooling was conducted in English. In short, the children were being educated and assimilated into an English speaking culture. Such was the emphasis on western culture, that no attempt was made to retain the children's Aboriginal culture. 752 Although Sister Eileen did not personally choose to inflict corporal punishment on the children, she was not so opposed to it that she prohibited it at St Mary's. As she said in her affidavit: "I did not impose corporal punishment myself and I am not aware of instances of other staff doing so, but it is possible that Mrs Beetson might have given some of the boys a whack on the leg occasionally but that was all. There were no disciplinary problems overall and I didn't really have to do much by way of punishment." The Administration wrestled, unsuccessfully for some time, with the subject of corporal punishment. In a submission to the Secretary of the Department of Territories dated 14 August 1958, the Administrator, in the course of expressing his opinion about the use of corporal punishment in the institutions, made this observation: "It must be accepted in the final analysis, however, that the restriction of abuse and harm to children in institutions from corporal punishment will come by having thoroughly competent and experienced persons in charge of and working in these institutions, and by the regular supervision and inspections of these institutions by experienced Welfare Officers." That statement also indicated a clear belief on the part of the Administration that the Administration had a right of supervision and inspection over these institutions. 753 The financial costs of operating St Mary's was substantially subsidised by the Commonwealth and, to a lesser extent, by the Church; the Church, for example, met the costs of staff wages. Initially, funds were provided by the Commonwealth for specific projects, such as the costs of buildings or the cost of equipment. But commencing with the 1952-1953 financial year, St Mary's was invited to submit its annual budget of income and expenditure for approval by the Commonwealth. Regular sources of other income included parents' payments of fees, primary school boarding allowances that were paid by the Education Department, maintenance payments from the Commonwealth for the children who had been committed to St Mary's by the Native Affairs Branch and child endowment payments. Mr Martin Ford said that he was responsible for the checking and presentation of budgets from the institutions such as the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's. His role was not that of the decision-maker however; his was to investigate, check and recommend. He confirmed that the financial arrangements were based on the Commonwealth Government meeting 90 per cent of the approved operating and the approved capital costs of an institution. 754 Mr Milliken was also involved in the annual budgeting exercises for all the missions, including the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's. He said that the budgeting arrangements called for the missions to contribute "10 per cent of their operational budget and, if possible, undertake some responsibility for capital items". Speaking of all the missions collectively, he said, however, that none of them "were very flush for cash". As a result, they were rarely able to contribute anything towards capital expenditure. It was his practice to discuss all budget matters with Mr Ford of the Administrative Division as he was the Branch officer who put "the final budget for the Branch together". 755 It was put to Mr Penhall in cross-examination that when he became Assistant Director of the Southern Division, his duties included an obligation to ensure that St Mary's Hostel was operating correctly. Mr Penhall did not agree; he said that Mrs Ballagh "used to keep an eye on St Mary's" but that it was the responsibility of the Assistant Director General Welfare from Darwin who carried out inspections of St Mary's. It is not a matter of great importance to analyse Mr Penhall's answer in order to make a finding about the identity of the officer who might have had responsibility. What was of importance was that Mr Penhall's answer showed that he accepted that the Welfare Branch did have some responsibility for supervising the operations of the Hostel. 756 Following on Sister Eileen's resignation from St Mary's, the Acting Administrator, Mr Archer, wrote a highly critical letter about St Mary's to the Secretary of the Department of Territories on 8 December 1955. He accused the Church authorities of failing "substantially and importantly in their responsibilities for the conduct of this Hostel through failure to staff it adequately and competently". The Administrator considered that it was the function and responsibility of the Northern Territory Administration to ensure that St Mary's was being conducted satisfactorily for its purpose; he added that if, because of shortages or lack of quality in staff, the Administration was not satisfied, then its only course was to: "… take up the matter directly with the Church authorities, who must either discharge the responsibilities they have accepted and for which they are being subsidised, or else step aside and allow the Administration to take over these responsibilities under some other arrangement." 757 The Minister, Sir Paul Hasluck, reacted in like terms, saying in his memorandum dated 4 January 1956 to his Departmental Secretary that: "The Government has a very definite responsibility to ensure the efficient management of this institution, both because of the Government's overall responsibility in respect of the welfare of coloured people, and because of the substantial financial contribution the Government has made …" The Minister subsequently wrote the Bishop of Carpentaria on 6 January 1956 complaining in very strong terms about the administration of St Mary's. Whilst the Government recognised the right of the Church to make its own staff appointments, the Minister insisted that the Government "must be satisfied that the institution will be managed efficiently and that the staff is competent". 758 The Minister accepted that the Director of Welfare and the Government had responsibilities for the children who had been placed in St Mary's and for its management. He wrote in his letter to the Bishop: "As St. Mary's Hostel has been declared an institution under the Aboriginal's (sic) Ordinance and operates under a licence issued by the Administrator, you will appreciate that the Director of Welfare has a legal responsibility for the general supervision and care over all matters affecting the welfare of the children including a responsibility to satisfy himself that the hostel is conducted on sound, efficient and economic lines. The Government also has a further responsibility to ensure the efficient management of the hostel because of its substantial financial contribution towards its capital cost and maintenance which totals approximately Ł30,000." This correspondence from the Administrator and the Minister did not differentiate between fee paying children and children who had been placed in St Mary's by the Native Affairs Branch. It was directed towards an institution that had been licensed under legislation to care for the welfare of children. The origin of the children was not the reason for intervention. 759 The staffing problems at St Mary's did not abate. A meeting was convened at Alice Springs on 18 March 1957. It was attended by Mr Archer, the Administrator, Mr Giese, the Director of Welfare and Mr McCoy the Acting District Welfare Officer in Alice Springs. The Right Reverend WJ Hudson, the Bishop of Carpentaria and the Reverend WF Rogers, Archdeacon of the Northern Territory represented the Church and St Mary's. The following entry appears in the minutes of that meeting: "Director. Comment on the suitability of present staff at St. Mary's together with an indication of the type of staff considered suitable to manage an institution such as St. Mary's Hostel. Following a general discussion of the problem, the Administrator directed that the question be further considered at a meeting to be arranged between Bishop Hudson, Director and Mrs. Archer, female welfare officer." 760 The first pastoral lease of the property, part of which is now known as Utopia Station, was granted in 1932 to two brothers Edward Henry Kunoth (known as Trott) and Justice Arthur Kunoth (known as Sonny). Sonny died a bachelor, allegedly without issue, in 1950 aged sixty-five. However, from time to time, there were references to a part Aboriginal boy at Utopia Station who was known as Sonny Jim Kunoth and who was said to be the son of Justice Arthur (Sonny) Kunoth – see for example Mr Kitching's 1955 report on his visit to Utopia in April of that year. It was Mrs McLeod's evidence that Sonny Jim Kunoth was considered to be the child of Sonny Kunoth. She said that he was treated as a brother by Trott's sons even though he lived the life of an Aborigine in the camp and went through the manhood ceremony. That is at variance with the evidence of Mrs Rosalie Kunoth-Monks, who said that Sonny Jim was the son of her father Alan, who was a son of Trott Kunoth. Probabilities favour Mrs Kunoth-Monks being correct; she was closest to Sonny. 761 Trott died in 1955 aged seventy-seven, survived by his wife, Amelia, a part Aboriginal woman, and their seven children: five boys and two girls. The sister of Trott and Sonny, Caroline Kunoth, married a Mr McLeod, the father of Alec McLeod Snr, the lessee of Utopia Station in the 1950s. After his discharge from the army at the end of the war, Alec McLeod took over the management of Utopia on behalf of his uncles. At that stage, he had not long married his second wife, the witness Mrs Dora Hope McLeod. Mr McLeod, whose first wife had died, had a son, Alec Jnr, and a daughter, Aileen, by his first marriage; there were no children of the second marriage. 762 Alec McLeod Snr and his cousin, Jock Nelson, acquired the Utopia pastoral lease from the Kunoth brothers in due course. Jock Nelson was the brother of Horace Nelson, Mrs Cubillo's father. Mr McLeod and Mr Nelson worked Utopia in partnership until 1953 when, by arrangement, they dissolved their partnership and arranged to have the lease split in two. Mr Nelson took the eastern section and named it Mt Skinner Station; Mr McLeod retained the western part and retained the name "Utopia". Mr Nelson subsequently became the Territory's Member in the Federal Parliament; he died in 1992. Although there was no connection between Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner in the prosecution of their respective claims against the Commonwealth, there was the strange coincidence that Mr Gunner was born on Utopia Station which was once owned by Mrs Cubillo's uncle. 763 In 1953, at the age of thirty-four, Mr Kitching was appointed an acting patrol officer in the Native Affairs Branch, a position that he held for the next seven years. Prior to that appointment, he had held positions in New South Wales and the Northern Territory, working in Aboriginal Homes and Settlements for about six years. On taking up his employment, he was assigned to the Alice Springs or Southern Division. His work as a patrol officer was interrupted in 1958 when he completed the twelve month course for patrol officers at the Australian School of Pacific Administration in New South Wales. As part of the course, he studied such subjects as law, colonial history, government administration, geography, land use and anthropology. The anthropology course covered topics such as Aboriginal culture, customs, social structures and belief systems. Mr Kitching agreed during the course of his cross-examination that he saw himself, in his work as a patrol officer, as an officer of the Commonwealth, engaged in administering the policies and administrative practices of "the Commonwealth Department of Native Affairs in the Alice Springs region". 764 Mr Kitching saw the role of a patrol officer as one that required him to represent and protect the interests and needs of Aborigines; he regarded himself as having the responsibility to act as an intermediary between Aboriginal people and members of the non Aboriginal community in all geographical locations. In his affidavit dated 26 June 1998 he described his duties as a patrol officer. They included matters such as: · the inspection of living and working conditions of Aborigines and their dependants on pastoral properties in the Alice Springs district; · the issuing and monitoring of licences to employ Aborigines on those properties; · assisting station owners and managers in placing Aborigines in employment; · the compilation of a list of all the Aborigines in the district, including details such as their European name, Aboriginal name, tribe, age, sex and employment status; and · the transportation of Aborigines from Settlements or Stations into town for hospital treatment. They were only some of the duties to which Mr Kitching referred but I have listed them because they have general relevance to the issues in this trial. 765 In par 31 of his affidavit, Mr Kitching stated that he had no recollection of "ever being issued with written instructions regarding general policies and procedures affecting half-caste Aborigines". He said that if he encountered a "half-caste child who was neglected or at risk in any way" he considered that he had a responsibility to report that fact to his District Welfare Officer. Nevertheless, he maintained that he could only make a recommendation that a child be admitted to a hostel "if the mother had consented to such a placement". He went further, claiming that, in his time as a patrol officer, he "never heard of a child being removed forcibly or without consent of his or her mother", and that it was "quite rare for a half-caste child to move away from their (sic) family and be admitted to a hostel". Mr Kitching acknowledged that, in making a determination that a child was neglected, a patrol officer had a discretionary power to exercise, but he maintained that, at all times, the paramount concern was the interests of the child. He agreed that education at Alice Springs was always regarded as being in a child's best interest but he also insisted that, absent neglect or ill health, a child would not be removed without its mother's consent – and even then, no removal could take place without the approval of the Director of Welfare. 766 Mr Kitching said that he could only remember making two recommendations for the removal of a part Aboriginal child. He accepted that he may have made recommendations that other children be removed from their families, but, if so, he did not recall them. The first of those that he recalled was in 1951 or 1952 in respect of a very young girl from the Jay Creek Settlement. At that time, he was the manager of that Settlement and was responsible for the welfare of the residents. The second occasion was in 1956 when he recommended that Peter Gunner be removed from Utopia Station. 767 Asked in cross-examination about his understanding of the assimilation policy, Mr Kitching replied: "They wanted to improve the health for the benefit of any part Aboriginal children who were just residing in a station or in a camp. They would be better off if they were moved to a home." He said that this was the extent of his understanding of the policy, but later he added a qualification to his answer by saying that the children would also be moved "if they were in a neglected position". Mr Kitching claimed that there were no written instructions on the subject. That was not correct. By the time of his appointment, Mr Moy had distributed his instruction dated 1 May 1952 which was based on Sir Paul Hasluck's 1952 policy. A likely explanation, if Mr Kitching's memory has not let him down, is that he was not given a copy of the instruction. 768 It was put to Mr Kitching by counsel for the applicants, and he agreed, that in his time as a patrol officer from 1953 to 1956, the Utopia community was a tribal community with a traditional lifestyle: the members of the community enjoyed good health: there was no sickness: and there were satisfactory rations and bush tucker. He accepted that Topsy, Peter Gunner's mother, ultimately married an Aboriginal man named Tom (also referred to as Hatches Creek Tom) and that they were living in the community as husband and wife; he also accepted that Mr McLeod, the owner of Utopia, was sympathetic to the Aboriginal community and supportive of its members. 769 It was also accepted by Mr Kitching that there was nothing in the documents to suggest that Peter Gunner was not fully accepted within the community and by his family. Nevertheless, although he had no present recollection of any personal involvement in Mr Gunner's removal from Utopia, he still had a memory of Peter being a "misfit". Mr Kitching's evidence on the state of health and harmony of the Aboriginal community at Utopia Station in the early 1950s was supported by the contents of some of the reports that were compiled about Utopia at various times by other patrol officers. Unlike some communities, I am satisfied that I have enough information to make a finding, which I do, that at the time when Peter Gunner left Utopia in May 1956, he left a happy, healthy Aboriginal community and environment – a community into which he had been accepted and of which he was a part. 770 Among the many papers that were tendered in this trial, there were the inspection reports on Utopia Station that were compiled by Mr Kitching as a result of his visits to the Station in 1953, 1954 and 1955. Those reports were, however, preceded by an earlier report from another patrol officer, Mr Ted Evans. That report is undated but Mr Kitching believes that it was compiled following Mr Evans' visit to Utopia Station sometime in 1949. The following entry appears in Mr Evans' report: "UN-NAMED MALE - Aged approximately one (1) year. Mother TOPSY (House-girl). Father alleged to be Peter Gunner (present whereabouts unknown). The information of paternity was furnished by Mr McLeod, the natives stating that they did not know who the father was. They supplied this information in respect of the other two without hesitation. The last-mentioned child is very thin and sickly, but according to McLeod, is receiving good treatment and food. I recommend that, if the condition of this child does not improve, McLeod be instructed to take him and his mother, Topsy, into Alice Springs Hospital for examination and medical attention." This report therefore suggests that Mr Gunner was born in 1948 and that is consistent with the information that is recorded in the application to register his birth. 771 Mr Kitching's recollections of Utopia were that there were about forty to fifty Aborigines living in a camp on the Sandover River which was "about a half a mile north-east of the homestead". He added that the numbers tended to vary because "the Aborigines were nomadic". He said in his affidavit that they lived in a traditional way in wurleys (which he described in his affidavit as "bark lean-to's"). Although the station owner, Mr McLeod, supplied them with rations, Mr Kitching added that the Aborigines at Utopia Station in his time hunted and foraged for food in their traditional manner. 772 No mention was made of Peter Gunner in Mr Kitching's 1953 report but in the 1954 report there is a reference under the heading "Part-Aboriginals" to a "Peter" who was said to be aged three and whose mother was named as "Topsy Purula". In the previous year's report, Mr Kitching's census of Aboriginal people on the station recorded a "Topsy Kundrilba" (sic) whose Aboriginal name was said to be "Purula". I am satisfied that the reference to "Peter" in the 1954 report is a reference to Mr Peter Gunner as a small child. But, as I am satisfied that Peter was born in 1948, the statement that the child was aged three cannot be right; he would have been at least six or seven years of age at the time when Mr Kitching submitted his 1954 report. 773 The 1954 inspection report on Utopia Station was forwarded to the Darwin office of the Director of Native Affairs. On 15 November 1954, a letter was written in the name of the Acting Director, Mr McCaffrey, to the Alice Springs office asking about the part Aboriginal children at Utopia Station. The letter said: "Under the heading 'Census' reference is made to a number of half-caste children. No mention is made, however, as to what action is intended regarding the future of these children. I require that an individual report be submitted in respect of each child with recommendations as to what further action should be taken. You should also ensure that the birth of each child has been registered." Mr Ted Evans, who was at that time the Acting District Superintendent in Alice Springs endorsed the letter "P/O Kitching: For advice re (2) please". Mr Ford accepted that his initials appeared on the top left hand corner of the letter of 15 November 1954. He also accepted that he would have dictated the letter in Mr McCaffrey's name, but he could not recall it; he could not recall the name Peter Gunner and he could not recall his involvement in the subsequent letters from the Director's office about the removal of part Aboriginal children from Utopia. 774 Mr Kitching, when giving his evidence, was not able to recall his response to the endorsement from Mr Evans. It would appear, however, that no action had been taken by the Alice Springs office by 1 April 1955. On that date, the Director of Welfare, Mr Giese – by this time the title of the office had changed – wrote the Acting District Welfare Officer asking when he "might expect that these matters will be attended to". That letter also had an endorsement to Mr Kitching for action, specifically seeking a report on "half-caste children individually". Unfortunately, this was another example of Mr Kitching being unable to recall what action he took in respect of that matter. However, other documentary material established that Mr Kitching visited Utopia Station on about 4 April 1955 and that he thereafter prepared his report dated 6 April 1955. His report was most illuminating. It served as a contemporary account of the Aboriginal attitude to persons in authority and I have no reason to doubt its accuracy. Under the heading "Part-Aboriginals on Utopia Station" Mr Kitching wrote: "Jimmy Kunoth; alias Sonny Kunoth – half caste. age approximately 21 years. alleged father - Sonny Kunoth. Present whereabouts unknown, usually employed as a stockman, and lives as a native. Not seen." Florrie Ware. Half caste. age approximately 10˝ years. alleged father J. Weir (deceased) mother – fullblood, Minnie. On the appearance of any Commonwealth vehicle both mother and child flee, and no contact by officials has been made during past 5 years. Not suitable for St. Mary's, and if taken to Bungalow her parents would also have to be brought in. Peter. Halfcaste. age approximately 6 years. alleged father Peter Gunner. mother Topsy Kundrilba. Same state of affairs as Florrie. No births are registered. The majority of children on Utopia all disappear as quickly as possible, and I have made no attempt to chase them but have tried to build the confidence of the remainder in Native Affairs Officers, bearing in mind the coming census and the need for an accurate count. It might be added that they are all frightened that they will be taken away to the Bungalow School." 775 In some of the documents, Florrie's surname appeared as "Ware" and in other places it appeared as "Weir". I will refer to her as "Ware" unless I am quoting from the contents of some documents. This was not the only evidence in the trial that dealt with Aboriginal and part Aboriginal children running away and hiding at the sight of a patrol officer. Mr Daniel Forrester – the witness who gave evidence on Mr Gunner's behalf referred to it, as did the Commonwealth's witness, Mrs Kunoth-Monks. Why would the mothers and children flee when a patrol officer appeared at their camp? There can be only one answer: the presence of a white patrol officer was synonymous with children being taken from their families; and, clearly, such takings had occurred with sufficient frequency that the urge to flee was uppermost in the mind of the people. Some support for this conclusion is to be found in Mr McCaffrey's letter of 15 November 1954 that was drafted by Mr Ford. Although the letter indicates that the circumstances of each child were to be the subject of an individual report, the general subject matter of the letter, and its reference to "future action" might be regarded as consistent with some sort of policy of removal. 776 Mr Kitching maintained in his oral evidence that, in the performance of his duties as a patrol officer, it was not his practice to chase after children. His assertion was supported by the report of Mr Richards, dated 12 April 1955, to the Director of Welfare. Mr Richards was, at that time, the Acting District Welfare Officer at Alice Springs. In that report he had written: "I am prepared to back Patrol Officer Kitching's judgment as to the inadvisability of chasing the half-caste children." 777 Mr Kitching exhibited to his affidavit, copies of extracts from his 1955 diary; they included an entry for 4 April 1955, identifying it as the date that he departed for Utopia Station. His entry includes the cryptic note: "children fled into scrub". This information satisfies me that the 1955 Kitching report refers to his visit to Utopia Station on about 4 April of that year. In the period January to June 1955, it would seem, based on the contents of Mr Kitching's diary, that there was only one record of him visiting Utopia – that was the visit in April. 778 On 10 May 1955, Mr Giese wrote to the Acting District Welfare Officer at Alice Springs. The heading to the letter was: "Utopia Station. (Your reference P. 116 of 12 April, 1955)." This was, therefore, a response to the letter or memorandum that forwarded the 1955 Kitching report to the Director. The second paragraph of the Director's letter was in the following terms: "Every endeavour should however be made to gain the confidence of these half-caste children as I feel that this Branch is responsible for their future. I would like to be advised of the progress made by Patrol Officer Kitching in this matter." Although he did not have any recollection of the subject at the time when he was giving his evidence, it would seem, from the documentary evidence, that Mr Kitching made a subsequent visit or visits to Utopia Station and that he met with some success. In a memorandum to the Alice Springs District Welfare Officer dated 14 September 1955 he wrote: "1. On my visit to Utopia Station for the purpose of compiling the census contact was made with all part-Aborigines on the station. 2. The two children, Florrie Ware and Peter, were seen with their parents, and it now appears that they will both be willing to attend school and go to St. Mary's Hostel in the coming year. 3. One consideration which I promised, and which should be honoured, is that they should be allowed to return home for the school holidays. 4. The other part-Aboriginal, Jim Kunoth, aged approximately 21 years, is very dark; is married to a full-blood; lives in the native camp, and has no desire to live anywhere else." 779 Mr Kitching said that he did not have any independent recollection of the circumstances leading up to Peter Gunner's removal from Utopia as a small boy: he could only rely on the contents of the documents that had been made available to him for his perusal as part of his preparation to give evidence in these proceedings. He accepted, however, that what was contained in the documents would be a true and accurate reflection of the situation concerning Peter Gunner and his admission to St Mary's. Mr Kitching also accepted that he must have recommended that Florrie Ware be admitted to St Mary's. However, Mr Kitching had no recollection of Florrie or of her personal circumstances. 780 The next item of documentary evidence dealing with Mr Gunner's ultimate removal to St Mary's was a memorandum from the Alice Springs office to the Director of Welfare dated 6 April 1956. It was prepared by Mr Kitching (whose initials appear at the top of the letter) and is in the following terms: "1. Florrie Ware and Peter have not been admitted to St. Mary's Hostel, and their births have not been registered. 2. Mr. Kitching has had no opportunity to visit this station, but has seen the owner, Mr. A. McLeod, who is endeavouring to bring the children in to Alice Springs. 3. Further there are no vacancies for girls at St. Mary's Hostel, but Florrie will fill the first vacancy that occurs, for it is desirable in this case that both children be admitted together. 4. All relevant papers will be forwarded on completion of the necessary action." There was a note in Mr Kitching's handwriting dated 14 May at the bottom of that letter that recorded that Captain Steep, the then Warden of St Mary's Hostel, had promised "to fit in the two children, when they are brought in". Mr Kitching said, and I find, that this indicated that he had spoken to Captain Steep about the children. In addressing this subject in his affidavit, Mr Kitching stated his beliefs, but, as he conceded: "… I cannot now recall the specific content of those discussions". This was quite understandable. More than forty years have elapsed and, in all probability, the events to which he was directing his mind while giving evidence did not, in the past, have the degree of importance that they have assumed in this trial. 781 On 14 May 1956, Mr McCoy, the Acting District Welfare Officer at Alice Springs, wrote the Director of Welfare regarding Peter Gunner and Florrie Ware. In it, he said that his office was expecting Mr McLeod to bring the children into Alice Springs and that Captain Steep had promised "to take the two children in when they arrive in Alice Springs". The last of the documents relating to Mr Gunner's admission to St Mary's Hostel were prepared by Mr Kitching and were signed by Mr McCoy. Each document was addressed to the Director of Welfare and both were dated 17 May 1956. The second of them, was entitled: "Request for admission of part-aboriginal child, Peter Gunner, to St Mary's Church of England Hostel, Alice Springs." That document contained the known personal particulars of Peter and his mother. His father was described as an "unknown European". Two entries in that report were of significance. The first of them claimed that Peter's admission to St Mary's was at the wish of his mother: "The mother desires that Peter be admitted to St. Mary's Hostel, to enable him to be educated to a European standard and removed from native camp life. Recommended by A/Patrol Officer Kitching." The second entry, which, in all probability, was of greater importance, was as follows: "As shown in the attached report, Peter's future well-being is dependant on his being removed from his present environment, to an institution where his personal needs, in all aspects, will receive the attention they deserve." That entry was an indication that the officers of the Director of Welfare, as well as the Director himself, were mindful of the individual well-being of the part Aboriginal boy, Peter Gunner. If the contents of this document are accepted as accurate, then they would refute any suggestion that the Commonwealth or any of its officers engaged in the arbitrary, forced removal of a child against the wishes of his mother and without regard to his personal circumstances. The attached report, contained a brief summary of relevant facts and concluded with the recommendation of the Acting District Welfare Officer. He wrote: "I am of the opinion for the reasons given above, it is in the best interests of Peter Gunner that he be admitted to St. Mary's Hostel and accordingly require your approval. His birth is being registered in the name stated above." 782 The reference to "the reasons given above" was not very illuminating. They were to the effect that Peter and his mother were living in a native camp; his father was said to be unknown and to have left the district; Topsy "has agreed to allow" Peter to be admitted to St Mary's Hostel; and Peter "appears to be bright". Neither the request nor the report refer to it, but there was a further document entitled "Form of Consent by a Parent". It was couched in very formal language and some might think that it would be difficult to understand how its contents could have been accurately translated to an Aboriginal mother who spoke no English. It does however contain a mark which purports to be a thumb or finger print surrounded by the typed words "Topsy her mark Kundrilba". The body of the document read as follows: "I, TOPSY KUNDRILBA being a full-blood Aboriginal (female) within the meaning of the Aboriginals Ordinance 1918-1953 of the Northern Territory, and residing at UTOPIA STATION do hereby request the DIRECTOR OF NATIVE AFFAIRS to declare my son PETER GUNNER aged seven (7) years, to be an Aboriginal within the meaning and for the purposes of the said Aboriginals Ordinance. MY reasons for requesting this action by the Director of Native Affairs are: 1. My son is a Part-European blood, his father being a European. 2. I desire my son to be educated and trained in accordance with accepted European standards, to which he is entitled by reason of his caste. 3. I am unable myself to provide the means by which my son may derive the benefits of a standard European education. 4. By placing my son in the care, custody and control of the Director of Native Affairs, the facilities of a standard education will be made available to him by admission to St. Mary's Church of England Hostela t Alice Springs." 783 The contents of that consent document were important in the following respects: · it was in the form of a request from the mother to the Director of Native Affairs that he declare her son to be an Aboriginal within the meaning and for the purposes of the Aboriginals Ordinance; · it stated that her son's father was a European; · it further stated that she desired her son to be educated and trained in accordance with accepted European standards "to which he is entitled by reason of his caste"; · it then stated that she was unable to provide the means by which her son may derive the benefits of a standard European education; and · finally, it concluded with the assertion that by placing her son in "the care, custody and control of the Director of Native Affairs", the facilities of a standard education would be made available to him "by admission to St Mary's Church of England Hostel at Alice Springs". 784 Mr Kitching could not remember Mr Gunner's personal circumstances or his living conditions that caused him to draft the recommendations in the Acting District Welfare Officer's report. Unlike Mr Lovegrove, who did not recognise the "Consent" form at all, Mr Kitching recognised it as the type of form that was used to record a parent's consent to her child's admission to an institution, but he had no recollection of being the person who obtained Topsy's consent nor could he admit to being involved in taking Mr Gunner away from Utopia Station. Mr Penhall was shown the form of "Consent" that had allegedly been marked by Topsy. He said that he was familiar with the form; it was a standard document for use in the Native Affairs Branch. However, it was his evidence that, in all his time in the Branch, he could not recollect ever using the document: he could not recollect initiating "an application for a half-caste to be brought within the Welfare or Aboriginals Ordinance". On the other hand he said that there were occasions when he made recommendations against bringing a child in for education; but he also said that the final decision was not that of the patrol officer. 785 Mr Milliken said that he was familiar with the document entitled "Form of consent by a Parent". Mr MacLeod said that he was not. Mr Milliken, when asked to explain his understanding of the phrase "by reason of his caste", answered: "It means that given his European parentage on the one side that he belongs in two cultural areas and he should be given the opportunity to fulfil the genetics of either." 786 Counsel for the applicants used this answer to make a claim that such policy as existed was therefore based on "race" and was pursued "without regard for the welfare of individual children or their individual circumstances". I cannot accept that submission; it failed to recognise those decisions of the High Court to which reference has already been made that classified the legislation as beneficial and protectionist; it failed to recognise that there was then, as there is now, an acceptance of the need for special legislation and special consideration for Aboriginal people. Finally, there was absolutely no causative link connecting "race" to a failure to have regard for the welfare of children. The existence of one does not preclude the existence of the other. 787 Mr Rush QC for the applicants posed this hypothetical question as part of his final submissions "how could the issues and concepts of [the form of "Consent"] be understood by Topsy"? There were two reasons why that question could not be answered. In the first place Topsy is dead: she cannot give evidence about her comprehension. In the second place, neither party was able to identify the officer from the Native Affairs Branch who was responsible for getting Topsy's thumbprint on the document. It was possibly Mr Kitching, but he had no recollection of the event. There was therefore no way of knowing how the contents of the document were explained to Topsy. Perhaps they were not explained at all – in that case the document would probably be a nullity. Perhaps they were explained with infinite patience and care – in which case the document would become tangible proof of Topsy's understanding. The short answer is that we will never know. But that was no reason for assuming that because Topsy was a tribal Aboriginal, she did not understand what was happening. The line of documents that were compiled in the Native Affairs Branch favours a positive conclusion that Topsy gave her informed consent to her son going to St Mary's. On the balance of probabilities that is the conclusion at which I have arrived. 788 In coming to that conclusion, I am aware that there was no way of knowing whether the thumb mark on the "Form of Consent" was Topsy's; even on the assumption that it was, there was no way of knowing whether Topsy understood the contents of the document. But it is not beyond the realms of imagination to find that it was possible for a dedicated, well-meaning patrol officer to explain to a tribal Aboriginal such as Topsy the meaning and effect of the document. I have no mandate to assume that Topsy did not apply her thumb or that she, having applied her thumb, did not understand the meaning and effect of the document. 789 There can be little doubt that the document was composed with the concept of a European education uppermost in the mind of the drafter of the document. The reference to declaring Peter an Aboriginal and admitting him to St Mary's can properly be taken as aids to the achievement of that primary objective. The declaration was also the justification for the Welfare Branch affording financial assistance so that St Mary's would supply Peter's accommodation whilst he was being educated. The words "care, custody and control" that were used in the document were the words that were found in s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance. It was pursuant to that section and s 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance that Mr Giese operated when on 21 May 1956 he signed a document committing Peter to the custody of St Mary's until his eighteenth birthday on 19 September 1966. Shortly thereafter, action was taken to have Peter declared an "Aboriginal" under s 3A of the Aboriginals Ordinance. As a result of the changes to the legislation in 1953, s 3A(1) provided: "3A(1) The Director may, subject to the approval of the Administrator, by notice in the Gazette declare – (a) that a person specified in that notice is deemed not to be an aboriginal within the meaning of this Ordinance: or (b) that a person, at least one of whose ancestors was a person described in paragraph (a) of the definition of 'Aboriginal' in the last preceding section, is deemed to be an aboriginal within the meaning of this Ordinance if he considers it to be in the best interests of that person and that person requests the Director to make the declaration." 790 The Administrator approved the making of such a declaration on 15 January 1957; he relied on the advice that Peter's mother had requested the declaration; he also relied on and the following submissions that were presented to him by the Welfare Branch: "(a) He is of part-European descent; (b) It is necessary that provision be made for his education and training; (c) His mother is a full-blood aboriginal native of Australia and is resident in a native camp at Utopia Station; (d) Because of his caste efforts should be made to advance his present standard of living; (e) I consider the child stands in need of the care and control which is provided by the Aboriginal's (sic) Ordinance." That document was presented in the name of Mr Milliken as the Acting Director of Welfare. The signature on it was not Mr Milliken's handwriting however and it did not purport to be: some indecipherable initials (which Mr Milliken said were Mr Ford's) appeared after his "signature". The initials in the top left hand corner of the document suggested that Mr Ford may have been the author but when he was shown the document Mr Ford could not recall it. Mr Milliken explained that the making of the declaration would have then authorised the District Welfare Officer to place Peter in St Mary's. But, as is evident from other evidence, that had already been done eight months or so earlier. It would seem that the declaration was of greater value as a justification for the Welfare Branch applying funds that were for the direct or indirect financial welfare of Peter. If, as was submitted by the Commonwealth, Peter was placed in St Mary's at his mother's request – and not as a consequence of the independent action of the Welfare Branch or the Commonwealth – he could have stayed at St Mary's without the "benefit" of the declaration. But that conclusion would overlook the presence of the words "care, custody and control of the Director of Native Affairs". Topsy had asked the Director to assume the care, custody and control of her son; the Director accepted that role. The documentary evidence has allowed for no other conclusion. 791 One theory that was advanced during the course of the trial was that Mr Gunner and his mother were driven to Alice Springs by Mr and Mrs McLeod, but the evidence is not sufficient to enable me to make such a finding. Mr Ted Evans' 1949 report and the memorandum dated 6 April 1956 point to the possibility of the McLeods being involved in taking Peter into Alice Springs and St Mary's and Mrs McLeod deposed to that fact in her affidavit. However, for the reasons that I give when discussing her evidence, I am not confident that I can rely on her memory. 792 I am prepared to accept the 1954 and the 1955 Kitching reports; his memoranda of 14 September 1955 and of 6 April 1956 and the remainder of the correspondence that passed between the office of the Director of Native Affairs and the Alice Springs Branch as truth of their contents. No other evidence was led that contradicted them, or any part of them. There was no suggestion that they were false or that they were inaccurate in a material particular. As contemporary statements, I find them very helpful in my attempts to gain an understanding of the environment in which Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people lived in those days; they were also of value in that they gave some insight into the workings of the Native Affairs Branch and its patrol officers. The findings that I am prepared to make, based on the contents of those documents are as follows: · individual consideration to the personal circumstances of Sonny Jim Kunoth, Florrie Ware and Peter Gunner, was given by Mr Kitching and, in turn, by the Director of Welfare; · Mr Kitching was able to obtain from unidentified persons (probably the children's mothers) an intimation that they would be willing for Florrie and Peter to attend school and St Mary's "in the coming year". It is not possible to explain why there was a material change in position in September 1955 when five months earlier, the mothers and the children "disappear[ed] as quickly as possible"; and · Mr Kitching promised that the children would return home for the school holidays. 793 Peter Gunner was admitted to St Mary's on 24 May 1956, but for some unknown reasons, he never did return to Utopia or to his mother during his school holidays. Why that failure occurred remains a mystery. Neither oral nor documentary evidence sheds any light on the subject. Sister Eileen said that if Topsy had been promised that her child would be returned to her during school holidays and the mother was living in stable circumstances, it would be expected that the child would be returned. She regarded that subject as a very important matter. Mr Ford agreed that the statement in the memorandum from Mr Kitching was "a promise of significance". He said that he would have expected a written record to be on file in Alice Springs. Mr Worthy, like other witnesses, agreed that the promise that Peter would be returned home for the holidays was an important matter and it should have been "honoured". Mr Kitching was unable to explain why it was that Peter never returned to his mother and Utopia during school holidays. It was put to him during cross-examination that it was because his Department wanted to keep the children separated from their families and because his Department had no intention of keeping the promise that he (Mr Kitching) had made; Mr Kitching would not agree. He was clearly puzzled by the failure to return Peter to his family. As he said in one of his answers in cross-examination: "… but what I can't follow is that there were still patrol officer visits to Utopia and somewhere someone would have had to be told that Peter had to come home for Christmas, and as a case [sic] there would have been inquiries made. I can only assume that, but there definitely would have – someone would have asked no matter where. They always inquired about their relatives and their friends wherever they are." 794 During his work as a patrol officer in Alice Springs, Mr Jeremy Long visited Utopia Station in November 1957; he also recalled that he visited St Mary's on two occasions. His visit to Utopia occurred after Peter Gunner had left Utopia but Peter would have been an inmate at St Mary's at the time of Mr Long's visits. He now has no recollection of his visits to St Mary's and his report of his visit to Utopia contains nothing of relevance to these proceedings save to reaffirm earlier reports that Mr Alec McLeod was highly supportive of the Aboriginal community and that the members of the community were well fed and well clothed. Mr Long said that, during his time at Alice Springs, his responsibilities did not relate to the children at St Mary's; he was not in any way responsible for deciding whether they could or could not go away on school holidays and he was not aware of that being the subject of anyone else's duties in the Welfare Branch. He said that he did not have any recollection of any person complaining to him during his visit to Utopia that a child had not been returned from St Mary's for holidays. By this time, eighteen months would have passed since Peter left Utopia. On the other hand, there was no evidence that Topsy, or any member of Peter's family, was in Mr Long's presence when he visited Utopia or, was aware of his presence. No finding can be made as a result of that one visit. 795 When Mr Penhall took up his duties as the Assistant Director Southern Division, one of his responsibilities was the signing of travel warrants for the part Aboriginal children at St Mary's. He knew that some children travelled home at Government expense once, and perhaps twice, a year. Others holidayed in South Australia. Mr Penhall said that he was not involved in any decision-making process about which child or children could go home in the holidays. He also said that he never used his powers to impose any prohibition on any child travelling home on holidays. It was Mr Penhall's evidence that he never received a complaint from a parent about a child not being permitted to return home. He also said that very few children failed to return to St Mary's from their holidays, but that if a parent chose not to send the child back, that was a decision for the parent and his Branch did not follow the matter up. Mr Penhall was shown a copy of a letter dated 28 May 1956 that Mr McCoy had written to the manager at Borroloola. The letter dealt with the subject of some children not returning to St Mary's after the Christmas vacation. Mr McCoy had written: "The attitude to be adopted at present is that every endeavour should be made to prevail on parents or guardians to return the children to the Hostel in their own interest and to ensure that they will receive a standard education. Apart from this, it is not desirable that any action be taken to enforce the return of any particular child. However, should any parent or guardian decline to return the child when requested to do so, the circumstances should be reported to this office for such further action as may be deemed necessary." Mr Penhall considered that the last sentence was only to be treated as a guideline which did not apply in all cases. Although the letter preceded his appointment to Alice Springs as the Assistant Director by some four years, it was written at a time when he was working as a patrol officer with the Southern Division. He said, in answer to a question during his evidence in chief, that he "basically" agreed with its contents. 796 Mr Penhall was shown another letter; this was one that he had written to the District Superintendent in Darwin on 15 April 1954. It concerned a part Aboriginal girl named Betty and it was of interest because it was one of the few occasions when evidence was led of the father of a part Aboriginal child showing interest in the welfare of the child. The letter said, in part: "When the girl came home for her Christmas holidays, she complained that she was hungry, and that she never had enough clothes. This is a common allegation to make against an institution such as St. Mary's, where a small staff are trying to cater for the needs of a number of children. The girl has been well looked after since she has been here, and the local school teacher has commented favourably on her conduct, and diligence, but he is afraid that she has not the natural resources to absorb very much education, to wit, she is aged eleven, and in grade 3. The father is prepared to send her back to St. Mary's, providing he can receive some assurance, on the matter of food, and also that she will receive the clothes that he sends down for her. I have gathered from this that at times, clothes are pooled and shared with children less fortunate. I will await your reply before proceeding further, as I am convinced that the father will return the girl of his own free will and accord, after he has received an assurance that the above matters will be investigated." Mr Penhall could not recall the incident but he could recall the girl's father. Although Mr Penhall had no recollection whether any further action had been taken about the father's concerns, the letter gives some indication of the individual attention that was shown by officers of the Native Affairs Branch for the welfare of the children. 797 Mr Milliken had no knowledge of the personal circumstances of Peter Gunner's admission to St Mary's Hostel. He said that the matter would have been referred to him but he had no recollection of it at the time when he gave his evidence. Accepting that it must have been conjecture on his part, Mr Milliken was allowed to say without objection: "I would have satisfied myself that the proper checks had been made by the District Welfare Officer and then I would have referred it to Martin Ford for the necessary transfer action to take place." 798 Mr Milliken did not recognise or remember Mr Kitching's memorandum of 14 September 1955 (in which he referred to the promise that Peter would go home for the school holidays). He saw nothing unusual in it however and he regarded the promise as one that could have been made and, having been made, as one that should have been kept. When this matter was revisited in cross-examination Mr Milliken was permitted to say, without objection, that although he had no personal knowledge of the circumstances, he would expect there to be some explanation for Peter not returning home to Utopia during his holidays. He regarded Mr Giese and Mr McCoy as men who honoured undertakings that had been given. Mr Lovegrove acknowledged in cross-examination that to make a promise to an Aboriginal mother about the future of her child would be a promise of great significance; if it were ignored it would be disgraceful. However, he would not agree that the making and ignoring of promises was consistent with a policy of removing part Aboriginal children without the consent of their mothers. 799 Mrs McLeod gave her evidence as part of the Commonwealth's case in response to the claims that had been made by Mr Gunner. Due to her age and state of health, that evidence was taken at the Old Timers Village, a Retirement Home in Alice Springs, where Mrs McLeod resided. Despite her physical frailty, Mrs McLeod retained a lively sense of humour; however, there were times when she had difficulty retaining her concentration. Her preoccupation about her "missing" diaries – and how they came to be in the hands of the Commonwealth – was an indication that her memory was failing and that it would be necessary to assess her evidence with caution. She had forgotten that she had given them to the Commonwealth and could not understand why she was being questioned about their contents. A review of the contents of her diaries, her affidavit of 14 December 1998 and the transcript of her oral evidence has shown that there were some serious discrepancies, perhaps in her affidavit or perhaps in her oral evidence. There was, of course, no doubt about her truthfulness; she was transparently honest. The care that I must exercise is when it becomes necessary to rely on her memory in matters of uncorroborated detail. As to that however, she was a dedicated daily diarist and I have total confidence in accepting her entries in her diaries as appropriate summaries of the events that are there recorded. For example, she recorded in her diary that, on 18 June 1947, Peter Gunner (that is, Peter Gunner Snr) started work at Utopia. She described him as "a young white boy" who was about the same age as her step-son, Alec Jnr; her diary also showed that he only worked at Utopia until 28 November 1947. Whilst Mr Gunner Snr was at Utopia, he lived in the stockman's quarters "which were located a couple of hundred yards away from the homestead fence". He was the only occupant. Mrs McLeod's diary also recorded that Topsy, Peter Gunner's mother, started working as a house girl from 21 January 1947. She has stated in her affidavit that, based on her diary notes, "I can say that Topsy was working at the house throughout the period that Peter Gunner Snr was at Utopia"; that assertion can be accepted without difficulty. 800 In her affidavit, Mrs McLeod gave her impressions about Aboriginal life on Utopia Station. She said that there were "always aborigines living in a permanent camp about half a mile from the Utopia Homestead, on the Sandover River". The Sandover is a dry river that floods about once a year, but only after heavy rain. When that occurs the Aborigines move out of the river bed and set up camp on the banks. There were no permanent waterholes in the Sandover and the people obtained their water from a bore near the homestead. Mrs McLeod considered that the camp was clean and she said that the people were healthy. But she also said that she rarely visited the camp: she only went there in cases of emergency. She emphasised: "We never interfered with their life in the camp … If they wanted anything from us they would come up to the homestead." Her main contact with the Aboriginal people was on the weekly ration day or when they sought help at the homestead because of sickness or injury. It is of some significance to the issues in these trials that she wrote in her affidavit: "From what I could see, everyone in the tribe would care for the children. They were good to their children and the children generally seemed to be well fed." Although she did not differentiate between Aboriginal and part Aboriginal children, I regard that statement as supportive of Mr Kitching's evidence on the same subject. 801 There was however, one disturbing feature. Among the papers exhibited to Mr Kitching's affidavit was a letter that was received by the Alice Springs Native Affairs Branch from Mr Alec McLeod dated 14 November 1953. The letter (which was composed by Mrs McLeod and signed by her on her husband's behalf) covered various subjects relating to claims for maintenance in respect of Aboriginal persons who were living on Utopia Station. In writing of Topsy Kundrilba, Mrs McLeod said: "Because Topsy Kundrilba has no husband is the reason why we have entered her on the maintenance list, as she is an outcast as far as the blacks are concerned." 802 In par 79 of her affidavit, Mrs McLeod, after quoting that passage from her letter, went on to say: "By then I was well aware of Topsy's status in the native camp. She was a fullblood woman herself but she had a halfcaste child and in those days if you were a halfcaste you didn't belong to the black people and you didn't belong to the white people. Because Topsy had a halfcaste child she was treated as an outcast in the camp. She wasn't being looked after or helped in the camp, she didn't have a husband, which I'm sure she would have by that age if she didn't have the halfcaste baby, and she was dependent on our support and rations to get by." If that information about Topsy were correct, it would constitute some incentive to give up her half-caste child. On the other hand, that letter was written in November 1953, two and a half years before Peter left Utopia and much could have happened in that time. 803 In her affidavit, Mrs McLeod recorded her memory of Topsy. She said that Topsy was one of four sisters who worked for her at various times as house girls. She said of Topsy in her affidavit, and confirmed this in her oral evidence, that "Topsy could understand English OK and speak a bit". Although Mrs McLeod knew that Topsy was pregnant, she was not aware that there had been a relationship between Mr Gunner Snr and Topsy. Mr Gunner Snr, who gave evidence on behalf of the Commonwealth, admitted to his sexual relationship with Topsy and the time that he spent at Utopia was compatible with the likely birth date of Peter. Mr Gunner did not necessarily accept that Peter Gunner Snr was his biological father but it seems to me that the evidence would most likely be sufficient, if it were necessary to make a formal finding of paternity, to establish that fact. As it is, the biological relationship between the two men is not a critical issue in the case. What was of potential importance, however, was Mrs McLeod's evidence of her conversation with Topsy on the day following the birth of Topsy's child. In her affidavit Mrs McLeod wrote: "58. I didn't see the baby after Topsy gave birth. I was quite shocked when she turned up to start work at the house one morning and had obviously given birth since the previous day. I can still remember asking her about the baby. I said "Which way picanniney?" Topsy definitely understood what I meant – what happened with the baby, where is it … She just giggled at me as she always did when I asked her a question. When I asked her again she told me the baby had gone, that it had been put down a rabbit burrow. I understood this to mean the baby had been killed. 59. I had heard of aborigines killing their babies if there was something wrong with the baby or if it wasn't wanted or the mother couldn't manage it. I was quite shocked but I considered that it was tribal business, their way of life and I never interfered in those things." Mrs McLeod learned, in due course, that Topsy's baby was still alive and that he was part Aboriginal. 804 Her diary for Thursday 16 November 1950, some two years later contains this entry: "Peter very sick in the camp. We went down to see him then called the Doctor on the 5 o'clock session. Dr Pryor ordered 8 sulphurimide tabs – 4 in the morning and 2 for the next 2 days." Mrs McLeod continued in her affidavit: "63. I remember the situation quite clearly. Topsy's baby, Peter, was in the camp and was in a totally neglected state. It was shocking. He was very sick. In general all the babies in the camp were well looked after and healthy, but we could see that this baby was completely neglected and looked to be almost starving. 64. After we saw the baby we called the Alice Springs Flying Doctor Base. My diary note says I spoke to Dr Pryor who told us what to do. 65. The following day, when we went down to check on Peter and give him the tablets, he was even worse. I wrote in my diary on Friday 17 November 'Peter unconscious today. Jimmy was going to bury him! He dug the grave ready but Alec stopped them from burying him!' I can still remember this clearly. As far as the aborigines were concerned, if someone was sick and became unconscious they were dead. The 'Jimmy' I referred to in my diary was Motor Bike Jimmy." This graphic account of the earlier circumstances of Mr Gunner was the subject of cross-examination and re-examination during which Mrs McLeod contradicted her written evidence saying that she did not know who was the mother of Peter Gunner. In her oral evidence she also stated that she only knew through hearsay that Topsy had a baby. 805 Mrs McLeod's written and oral evidence concerning Peter Gunner's leaving the Station and going to St Mary's is also contradictory. In her affidavit she said that, although it was not the subject of any specific reference in her diary, she remembers that she and her husband were involved once arrangements had been made by the Welfare Branch for Peter to go to St Mary's Hostel. That involvement also included taking Florrie Ware as well. As to Peter Gunner, she wrote. "I am absolutely certain that we took him in. I remember clearly that we drove to Alice Springs in the Chev 1 ton truck. I can still remember them sitting up the back on the tray. Topsy was sprawled out and little Peter was sitting up against the headboard. I remember Topsy sprawled out and wondering how she could get comfortable because they were rough roads in those days." Despite this detailed narrative, Mrs McLeod gave a different story in her cross-examination. She contradicted that part of her affidavit in which she had said that Mr Kitching had made arrangements with her to take Peter to Alice Springs, saying in evidence of the Welfare Branch: "They used to do those things themselves". 806 I do not feel confident about making findings of fact concerning the removal of Peter Gunner from Utopia Station to St Mary's. The internal memoranda within the Welfare Branch and Mrs McLeod's affidavit pointed to Mr and Mrs McLeod having taken him and his mother to Alice Springs in circumstances that suggested informed consent on the part of Topsy. Yet Mr Gunner stood firm throughout his evidence when he insisted that he was taken against the wishes of his family by some white men who were driving a vehicle with a "cage" on the back; some support for that version of events came from Mr Johnny Skinner. In the final analysis, I do not think that it matters how he was transported from Utopia. What matters was the reason for his removal – not the means by which the removal was achieved. Was his removal from his mother and his institutionalisation at St Mary's at the request of his mother? Was it in his best interests? 807 One reason why I am not prepared to rely on the contents of Mrs McLeod's affidavit is that, on balance, I accept Mr Gunner's evidence that he was forcibly removed from Utopia. That is not to say that I also find that he was removed without his mother's consent. The forced removal (even with his mother's consent) would have still been frightening and upsetting to a little boy. On the other hand, if the removal had been effected by Mr and Mrs McLeod with Topsy accompanying him to Alice Springs, no trauma would have occurred until he was separated from his mother in Alice Springs. Of the two possibilities, his evidence of trauma and Johnny Skinner's evidence that he saw Peter grabbed by some white men (vague though that evidence was) has steered me away from finding that Peter went to Alice Springs with his mother on the back of the McLeod's truck. 808 If, as I think, the reason for his removal is the correct question to ask, it would not matter by what persons or by what means that removal was effected, if his removal was effected within the terms of ss 6 or 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance. That however, was not the way in which the Commonwealth pitched its case. Its defence was based on the premise that Peter Gunner was not removed from his family and his community by the Commonwealth or its officers and hence it was not a question of examining, in terms of s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance, whether it was "necessary or desirable" in his interests. The Commonwealth put forward its case on the premise that the evidence supported a finding that Peter Gunner left Utopia and went to St Mary's at the request of his mother and with her consent. 809 Notwithstanding her contradictions, which no doubt are due to her advancing years and frail state of health, I have no reason to question the substance of Mrs McLeod's oral and written testimony where it is, to any substantial degree, corroborated by the entries in her diary. In particular I accept her entries about Peter's illness as a baby. But for the care that he received from Mr and Mrs McLeod and the medical treatment that he received, it is more likely than not that he would have died as a small child in 1950. On the other hand, the evidence does not support a finding that Topsy tried to kill her new born baby by putting him down a rabbit burrow. As I have already said, Mrs McLeod was a dedicated daily diarist; she wrote of the cakes that she cooked, the occasions when she washed her hair, the state of weather and of the vegetable garden, the visitors to the Station, the trips to Alice Springs and elsewhere, the work that was being carried out on the Station – the list was almost endless. Yet nowhere was there a reference to Topsy telling her that she had put her baby down a rabbit burrow. As I am satisfied that Mrs McLeod was a truthful witness and as I am satisfied that I can rely on the entries in her diary as being the truth, the only conclusion that I can draw is that the rabbit burrow incident was told to her in later life and that her failing memory has caused her to say erroneously that it was Topsy who told her. In coming to that conclusion, I have not overlooked the fact that there was no mention in Mrs McLeod's diary of Peter's birth. So the absence of any reference to Topsy's attempt to kill him might only mean that Mrs McLeod chose to ignore the whole episode. At the end of the day, I regard the evidence on this subject as too confusing to make any finding at all. 810 Mr Gunner, who gave his address as "3 Bores" at Old Utopia Station, stated that he did not know his date of birth nor the identity of his biological father; he said that it was at St Mary's that he was given the name Peter Gunner. The date shown in the "Form of Information of Birth" is 19 September 1948 and, there being no other evidence, I have regarded that as his date of birth. However, the likelihood of it being the correct date is remote. The form was completed on 17 May 1956 by Mr Kitching and there is no evidence that would establish how Mr Kitching would have known Peter's date of birth. 811 Mr Gunner said that he was born on Utopia Station and that, as a child, he lived in camps on the Station. He remembered that Alec McLeod was the owner of Utopia Station. He said that there was an Aboriginal camp about a half a kilometre from the homestead and another one which he said was about twenty-five kilometres from the homestead. He explained that the homestead camp was used on ration days; but after collecting their rations, the community would move back to the other camp from which hunting for bush tucker took place. He said that as a child he was taken hunting by members of his family; when asked to identify them he said: "All the members of the family. I spent with me two big sisters and with me grandmother and another time I spent a lot of time with me uncles." He made particular mention of his late uncle, Motor Car Jimmy, as a member of his family with whom he went hunting. Mr Gunner said that, in Aboriginal culture, Motor Car Jimmy's traditional group was Anmatyerr Alyawarra, the same grouping as Mr Gunner's mother; he went on to say that he was a member of a very large family group: "Like my mother's side was fairly large and the uncles' sides went out to groups. Skin relationships through Aboriginal skin groups. What we call brothers and sisters in skin, tribal skin groups." Mr Gunner said that, when he was a young boy at Utopia, he spent a lot of time with Motor Car Jimmy. He said that Motor Car Jimmy, who worked for Mr McLeod doing fencing, drove one of the station motor vehicles. Mr Gunner often went with him on his fencing trips. Motor Car Jimmy was married to Minnie Pultara, a sister of Peter's mother, Topsy. Mr Gunner said that Jimmy and Minnie had children but he did not specify the number. However, one of Minnie's children was Florrie Ware – also known as Barbara Weir. In European terms, Peter and Florrie are therefore first cousins. However, when it was put to him that it was Minnie and Motor Car Jimmy who grew him up, Mr Gunner would not agree saying: "Not really. I wouldn't state in this court that it was those old people that actually grew me up as a child and didn't have much to do with the mother. I did have a lot to do with the mother and then I spent some more time with the other mother and then from that mother then my uncle Motorcar and Minnie." He added that he had "a lot of" aunties in that group, being his mother's sisters; he named them as Polly, Molly, Angeline and Kathleen. Although his mother is dead, those four aunties are alive, living at Utopia. So also is Florrie Ware's mother, Minnie. They were not called as witnesses in Mr Gunner's case and no explanation was offered for their absence. 812 Mr Gunner explained that there were seventeen communities on Utopia but that he did not live in a community. Asked why that was the position he replied: "Well, I – I got my mother's sisters just next door to me so I got all my cousins and other relatives just next door neighbour, just walking distance so they part of where I live." In this answer Mr Gunner impliedly showed that there is a close connection between him and his mother's sisters. In re-examination Mr Gunner said that he had a very good relationship with his mother's sisters at Utopia; he added "they treat me like their son". These statements made their absence as witnesses most noticeable. He said that he had been very close to his maternal grandmother as he had spent a lot of time with her and learnt a lot from her. Mr Gunner said there were other children in the community and he had no recollection of being treated differently from those children; he remembered himself as a fit and healthy child who was never sick and he could not recall wanting for food. 813 Mr Gunner believed that Florrie Ware, who was also taken to St Mary's, arrived there a few months after his arrival. That belief tallied with the information that was in St Mary's records which showed that Florrie Ware was admitted to St Mary's on 27 August 1956, some three months after Mr Gunner's arrival. During the course of his cross-examination, Mr Gunner said that Florrie only stayed in St Mary's for about three months. That assertion contradicted the contents of his witness statement where he had said that she was in St Mary's for only three weeks. Although his witness statement was not tendered in evidence, a copy of it had been given to the solicitors for the Commonwealth. It was used on more than one occasion to challenge statements that were made by Mr Gunner during his oral testimony. His evidence concerning Florrie Ware was very confusing and discursive. In his witness statement, he had complained that she was taken away from St Mary's after three weeks, thereby causing him hardship through losing contact with a close relative. In cross-examination, however, he steadfastly maintained that he had little or no contact with her whilst she was in St Mary's because, as he described himself, he was a "shy little boy". Furthermore, the records of St Mary's showed that Florrie was still an inmate in February, 1959, a proposition with which Mr Gunner would not agree, even when the relevant document was put before him. 814 Mr Gunner was asked: "Do you remember a person at the station who was part Aboriginal, of mixed descent?" Mr Gunner said that he did and he named the person as "Sonny Jim", a young man who was much older than Mr Gunner but who had the same coloured skin as Mr Gunner. According to Mr Gunner, Sonny Jim has since died but his wife is still alive; she is a member of the Kaititj Tribe. Mr Gunner knew that Sonny Jim and his wife had children at Utopia and he also knew that those children had not been taken away from Utopia. In fact, all of Sonny Jim's sons "went through the tribal initiation ceremonies out at Utopia". 815 Mr Gunner said that he, Sonny Jim and Florrie Ware were the only children of mixed descent that he remembered during his childhood at Utopia. He said that his recollection of his childhood was one of happiness: "I felt really happy out at Utopia. I couldn't say anything in the court today that I didn't have a good life. I had a very happy life in Utopia." 816 Mr Gunner said that he remembered being taken away from Utopia when he was a young boy. Indeed, he claimed that there had been earlier attempts to remove him. He said that on the day when he was ultimately taken, he was at the homestead camp because it was ration day; he claimed that he was taken by "a white fella". He said that he was placed in "a ute truck. [I]t was a khaki coloured truck. [I]t had a canopy type with a khaki canvas cover type (sic); top". He said that the white man who took him away was dressed in a khaki uniform; he said that "he just grabbed me and put me back the truck" (sic). Mr Gunner said that he was "crying and screaming" and that a lot of the families were "crying and yelling in Aboriginal language". He said that his mother was among those who were present at the time when he was put on the truck. According to Mr Gunner he had never been spoken to by anyone in uniform about being taken away nor, so he said, had he seen any such person speaking to his mother or to any other member of his extended family. He said that he was taken to the Bungalow at Alice Springs. The Bungalow was another name for the Old Telegraph Station at Alice Springs (not to be confused with the Old Telegraph Station at Seven Mile Creek to the north of Tennant Creek). In 1956, and for some time prior, it was used by the Native Affairs Branch as a home and a school for Aboriginal children. It was situated about three or four kilometres north of Alice Springs in the MacDonnell Ranges. Mr Les Wilson, who was the Superintendent of the Bungalow at the time when Peter was taken there from Utopia said that, at that time, there were some 300 Aboriginal people residing there, many of whom were permanent residents. Others were itinerants who were passing through or visiting Alice Springs for various reasons. The Bungalow was used, in particular, as a base for Aboriginal people who were visiting Alice Springs for medical reasons. Mr Wilson had no recollection of a child by the name of Peter Gunner staying at the Bungalow while he was Superintendent and no documentary evidence was produced that would establish that he stayed there at any time in 1956. However, if Peter's stay was as short as the evidence suggested, it was hardly surprising that Mr Wilson would have no recollection of him. 817 Although the evidence about Peter's removal from Utopia was challenged, the fact that he first stayed at the Bungalow before being transferred to St Mary's was not. Notwithstanding the absence of any documentary record, I find that, when Peter was taken away from Utopia, he first stayed with an Aboriginal family at the Bungalow for a short time before transferring to St Mary's. His evidence that he stayed there for "maybe a couple of months" was not right. The documents that were tendered do not establish the date that he left Utopia but it could not have been earlier than 6 April 1956, the date when Mr Kitching wrote that Mr McLeod was "endeavouring to bring the children to Alice Springs" and it would have been prior to 24 May, the date that he was admitted to St Mary's. 818 Mr Gunner said it was "the white fella in uniform" who drove the truck to the Bungalow; he was adamant that it was not Mr McLeod and he was equally adamant that his mother was not in the truck with him; he was alone. Mr Gunner said that he never saw Mr and Mrs McLeod at the homestead camp; he never saw their motor vehicle (other than the one that Motor Car Jimmy used for fencing work) and he had never been in the station homestead. He said that he could not recall ever having had a conversation with Mr McLeod and he had no memory of his mother ever being in Mr McLeod's motor vehicle. Mr Gunner claimed that he had never been to Alice Springs prior to being taken there to the Bungalow. He had no recollection of Mrs McLeod ever having taken him to the hospital. Mr Gunner said that he had no memories of Mr and Mrs McLeod giving Aboriginal people a ride on their vehicles either to go into Alice Springs or to come home to Utopia from Alice Springs. 819 Mr Gunner, in his evidence in chief, said that there had been three earlier attempts to remove him from Utopia Station. However, in his cross-examination, he referred to two only of those attempts prior to the third occasion upon which he was taken to the Bungalow. As he only described two attempts in his cross-examination, I allow for the possibility that his reference to three attempts meant, in reality, the two attempts followed by the third occasion when he was taken away. His evidence was that the first attempt occurred at the Utopia Station homestead camp; a truck pulled up and, as he said, "I took off"; he said that he ran away and hid in the banks of the river. He said that his people covered him with a blanket and that his grandmother and his mother's sisters were sitting almost on top of him. He hid in this fashion until the white man went away. On this first occasion, it was Mr Gunner's memory, when giving his evidence, that there was only one man, but he said that he could not be sure. He thought that the vehicle that the man drove was the same colour but different in some ways to the truck that eventually took him away; he could not recall whether the truck that was used on the first occasion had a canopy on the back of the tray or a cage. It may have been the same man who ultimately removed him, but he could not recall for sure. As he explained: "I was too busy hiding and running for my life to stand there and have a good look at this man …" 820 In addition to his grandmother, he said that his mother's sisters Kathleen, Molly and Polly were hiding him under blankets; he could not recall whether Angeline was there at the time, nor could he recall Minnie. Although Mr Gunner referred to this incident as an attempt to remove him, his evidence did not suggest that the white man chased him or inquired of his whereabouts. It may have only been a case of a small boy taking fright at the sight of a white person who the child and his family perceived to represent a threat to him. 821 Mr Gunner was shown his further and better particulars of 6 February 1998 ("the first set of particulars"). In par 4 it had been alleged that, in the first attempt to remove Mr Gunner, there were two men. Mr Gunner acknowledged that it was possible that he could have told his lawyers that there were two men on that first occasion – not one man. Mr Gunner also agreed that there was nothing in his first set of particulars about him having been hidden under blankets by members of his family. 822 On the second attempt to remove him, Mr Gunner said that he was actually grabbed and thrown on to the back of a truck. The truck took off but, when they reached a gate, he was able to jump off the truck and ran away into the bush, making his way back to the camp. Mr Gunner was not able to estimate the gap in time between these two attempts nor could he state his age at the relevant time. The second attempt to take him from Utopia also took place at the homestead camp. He recalled that it was the same truck as had been used on the first occasion and contrary to what he had said in his first set of particulars, he added that it could have been the same man. On this occasion there was a second man however. He said that the second man wore khaki shorts and a shirt and that he was European; he could have been younger than the first man. 823 It was later put to Mr Gunner that, in his first set of particulars, he had stated that there were two men present when he was finally taken away. Asked whether he had said that to his solicitors he answered: "I could have stated that but I don't recall." The cross-examiner followed the matter up: "Were one or two men involved in your removal? --- Whether there was two or one, I was removed off Utopia on a ration day, back of a – a ute. Is it your evidence today that you do not know whether there was one or two men involved in your removal? --- I did stay – stated that there was – there was – there was two attempt made before I was removed. I did state there was – there was – there was two person but I – I didn't quite recall whether there was two or one on the first attempt." 824 In his witness proof, Mr Gunner referred to two white men being involved in his ultimate removal from Utopia to the Bungalow. However, in his cross-examination he had been quite insistent that there was only one man. When he was asked whether he had told his solicitors that there was more than one man involved in his removal, his answer was to say that he could not recall. There were two other inconsistencies that should be mentioned. Mr Gunner said, despite the statement in the first set of particulars, that he had never told his solicitors that the man who removed him from Utopia was the same man who took him from the Bungalow to St Mary's. He also said, during his cross-examination, that he was not wearing any clothes when he was taken away from Utopia, but in par 23 of his witness statement he said that he was wearing a shirt. 825 The attempts to remove Mr Gunner from his family and his ultimate removal were identified not only in the first set of particulars, but also in his amended further and better particulars filed 7 April 1999 ("the second set of particulars"). The details, as stated in both sets of particulars, were clear and unambiguous. They were in the same terms: "In the first attempt to take the Applicant from the Utopia Station two men whom the Applicant believed represented the Director of Native Affairs came in a truck. The Applicant fled from the camp area to the Sandover River and hid. Several weeks later the same representatives from the Native Affairs Branch came to the Utopia Station and the Applicant was hidden. The Applicant was finally apprehended at the Utopia Station by the Native Affairs representatives on a later occasion after the Applicant had bitten one of the representatives on the hand and attempted to get away. When apprehended the Applicant was placed in a cage on the rear of the truck. At the time the Applicant was aged 7 or 8 years and was extremely distressed, frightened and scared. He was taken to Alice Springs to the old Telegraph Station which was also known at the time as the Bungalow Native Settlement. The Applicant remained at the Bungalow Native Settlement for a short time and was then transferred to St. Mary's Hostel at Alice Springs." 826 The clarity of those statements is to be compared with the confusion that his evidence created. It is clear from his first and second set of particulars that there were, on the first occasion, two men. That happens to be consistent with the contents of par 19 of his witness statement where he said: "My mother hid me under the blankets after I ran away and while the two welfare blokes were looking for me." 827 It is equally clear that in his first and second particulars Mr Gunner was alleging that the same two men sought him out on the second occasion. He does not expressly state that "the Native Affairs representatives" who apprehended him on the third occasion were the same men, but it is possible that they may have been. He went on to state, however, in both sets of particulars, that he "believed that the persons who removed him from his family and community were two males of Anglo-Saxon origin". Mr Gunner filed a further set of particulars ("the third set of particulars") four weeks later on 29 April 1999 in answer to a request from the Commonwealth. He materially shifted his ground by then claiming that he was "detained and kept away from his mother" by various people, one of whom he described as: "Mr HS Kitching, a Patrol Officer employed by the Respondent who removed the Applicant from Utopia Station to the Bungalow and then to St Mary's Hostel." There are three matters to be stressed when considering this answer. In the first place, Mr Kitching had not been earlier named. How was it that Mr Gunner knew that it was Mr Kitching who removed him when he supplied these particulars on 29 April 1999 but he could not name him three weeks earlier on 7 April or in February of the preceding year? Mr Gunner was asked how did his solicitors come to be able to identify Mr Kitching in April 1999. Mr Gunner could not answer, save to say that he did not tell his lawyers that Mr Kitching was the name of the man who removed him. Secondly, in naming Mr Kitching, Mr Gunner identified him as the only person who had been involved in his removal, whereas in his first and second sets of particulars it was abundantly clear that there were "two males of Anglo-Saxon origin". Finally, Mr Kitching was identified, not only as the man who took Peter from Utopia to the Bungalow, but also as the man who took him from the Bungalow to St Mary's. When the time came for Mr Gunner to give his evidence, he said that "a white fella" took him away. In cross-examination, he agreed that that had been his evidence. That was consistent with his third set of particulars, but inconsistent with his first and second set. 828 Mr Gunner had also said that he thought that he might have seen the "white fella" who took him from Utopia on some earlier occasion but he could not recall; he was however, reasonably certain that the man who removed him from Utopia was not the man who took him from the Bungalow to St Mary's. That, of course, contradicted what he had said in his first and second set of particulars. He recalled that the man who took him from Utopia wore khaki shorts and a khaki shirt; he said that the man wore boots and socks but he couldn't recall if he was wearing a hat. He also said that the truck that took him from Utopia to the Bungalow was different from the truck that took him from the Bungalow to St Mary's. Mr Gunner said he could not recall earlier seeing the man on the day that he was removed; he referred to the incident as "an unexpected grab" suggesting that the man might have taken hold of him without Mr Gunner first observing him. Mr Gunner said that when this occurred the whole of his family was present – his mother and his aunts Polly, Molly, Angeline and Kathleen. Minnie, Florrie Ware's mother was there and all would have seen him being grabbed by this man. Mr Gunner said that neither his mother nor his aunts tried to stop the man but there was "a lot of screaming and shouting, people yelling and, you know I mean, like Aboriginal people scared from the European person". Mr Gunner said that he had some recollection of the man speaking to someone but he cannot now say who it was. He was asked whether the man spoke to his mother and he replied: "I can't really recall whether he was talking to my mother because I think I was just busy crying and screaming myself to really – to say whether he was speaking to my mother, but all I can … ." He added: "All I can recall that he was speaking to people before he drove off." 829 Mr Johnny Skinner gave evidence on behalf of Mr Gunner. Mr Skinner said that he was seventy-five years of age. According to him, Mr Gunner was removed by two welfare officers. He had no trouble naming one of them as Mr Lovegrove and, initially, it appeared that he named the second officer as Mr Kitching. Thereafter, some confusion crept into his evidence when counsel asked him if he knew Mr Giese. He said that he did and thereafter it became uncertain whether he was naming Mr Kitching or Mr Giese as the second patrol officer. Mr Lovegrove was quite firm in his evidence that he did not visit Utopia Station until sometime in the late 1960s. In particular, it was put to him, and he denied, that he was ever involved in the removal of any child from Utopia. I accept Mr Lovegrove's evidence; I am satisfied that Mr Skinner is mistaken in naming Mr Lovegrove as a patrol officer who was involved in the removal of Peter Gunner from Utopia Station. 830 The evidence of Mr Skinner was otherwise helpful in several areas. He gave his evidence with the assistance of an interpreter, but it was apparent that, for the most part, he had a reasonable grasp of the questions that were asked of him and, on occasions, he either answered in Kriol or, by partly resorting to the use of common English words. He answered the questions asked of him quietly but confidently and I have no hesitation in accepting him as a witness of truth. There were some areas of confusion or uncertainty but that was to be expected when an elderly witness was being asked to recount events that occurred almost fifty years ago. Whilst some of the details may therefore be blurred, I am content to rely on the main points of Mr Skinner's evidence. The first of those points was his strong assertion that Peter was taken away from Utopia by two welfare officers; he rejected the proposition that Mr and Mrs McLeod took Peter away from the Station. I have no doubt that Mr Skinner believes in what he said. Mr Skinner was also clear in his evidence that Peter did not want to go with the welfare officers. He said that Peter was happy at Utopia: he played with the other children; he was loved by his grandparents, his aunties and his uncles. Asked about Peter's mother, Mr Skinner's answer was equally clear: "His mother leave him as soon as he was born and mother walk away … His grandfather and grandmother grew him up." I am also satisfied that it is safe to accept the following passage from Mr Skinner's evidence: "Where did his mother go to? --- Him being working there, Utopia, but not worry about this kid and him just like give it away. THE INTERPRETER: She was working at Utopia and never worried about this kid and wanted to give it away. They was a bit scared maybe from policeman or welfare." 831 According to Mr Skinner, Peter's mother later married an Aboriginal man and had three children, two boys and a girl. When asked "Did she look after those children?" the transcript records the interpreter as replying: "They looked after them all right and not worry about Peter Gunner." However, from what Mr Skinner said in re-examination, it became apparent that Peter's mother did not marry until after Peter had left Utopia. 832 Mr Skinner's evidence supported the proposition that Topsy abandoned Peter at some stage and for some time. Further support for that assertion can be found in Mrs Pula's evidence, for she also said that it was the grandmother and grandfather who "grew him up". Pointedly, neither counsel asked her to expand on this aspect of her evidence. 833 Mrs Lena Pula was an elderly, quietly spoken Aboriginal woman of many talents. Her batik painting has taken her around the world and she was also the first health worker at Utopia. She has lived on Utopia (or Delmore, which is the eastern section of the Station) all her life. I unreservedly accept her evidence. Although she was not present at Utopia when Mr Gunner was taken away, she described how his family would hide him from the white man; they would take him out into the bush and rub charcoal on him. Mrs Pula was only one of several witnesses who referred to the practice of Aboriginal people hiding part Aboriginal children from Government officials. Her evidence, which is quoted below, is typical of the evidence that was heard on this subject: "MR RUSH: Were people in any way scared of what might happen to Peter? THE INTERPRETER: No, they used to hide – hide him away. MR RUSH: What would they do to hide him away? THE INTERPRETER: From the white man. MR RUSH: Where would they go and what would they do to hide him away? THE INTERPRETER: They'd take him out bush where – where this is (sic). MR RUSH: Would they do anything to him or his body to hide him away? THE INTERPRETER: Rub – rub charcoals on him." 834 That passage of her evidence does not contradict a finding that Topsy ultimately consented to Peter's removal. Mr Kitching's reports established that initially, Peter was hidden away but, eventually, Topsy changed her mind. 835 Mrs Pula said in her evidence that neither his mother nor any of his aunts spoke English; in one of her answers she alluded to Peter's state of health as a baby. She said: "When he came back that baby was poorly." However, in cross-examination, she said "he was all right before" he was taken away. She was present when Mr Gunner was reunited with his mother; she said that his mother was sad and cried. 836 Mr Gunner said that, on the occasion when he was taken to Alice Springs he was "very worried"; he said that he "cried most of the way, didn't stop crying". Indeed, he became very distressed at this stage when giving his evidence about the occasion of his removal. Although there were many areas of his evidence where there were inconsistencies, confusions and doubts, I am satisfied that the memories that he had, when giving his evidence of his removal from his Aboriginal community at Utopia Station, have become a very traumatic and upsetting event for Mr Gunner. I am not satisfied, however, that those memories necessarily accord with the reality of the events in all respects. I have no doubt however, that, as a small boy of about seven years of age, Mr Gunner was taken, against his will, from his Aboriginal community at Utopia Station. I have no doubt that his removal and subsequent institutionalisation in St Mary's Hostel was, at the time, a traumatic event for a little boy. I am also satisfied that, by the time when he gave his evidence, he had built up in his memory a version of events which, although confused and contradictory in detail, was based on a white person forcibly placing him in some form of a restraint (such as a "cage") on a truck or utility and driving him, without his mother, to the Bungalow. 837 The absence of Mr Gunner's aunts, prima facie, invited the application of the rule in Jones v Dunkel in the sense that it would lead to an inference that their uncalled evidence would not have assisted his case that he was forcibly taken away by a white man in a truck. But that is as far as the Court can go. There is no inference against Mr Gunner which might otherwise fairly be drawn. Mr Kitching did not say that the McLeods brought Peter in; some of the documents alluded to the possibility that they were intended to bring him in but that is not sufficient to raise an inference that they did so. Finally, I have concluded that I cannot rely on Mrs McLeod's evidence. As a result there was no evidence before the Court upon which an inference could be built that Peter was brought into Alice Springs by Mr and Mrs McLeod. I am left with Mr Gunner's evidence. Admittedly, it was the evidence of a man who was recounting an event that occurred over forty years ago when he was a child of seven and it was severely challenged. But it had some support from Johnny Skinner and it was an event of such momentous proportions that it would not be unreasonable to hold that a seven year old child would be likely to retain a memory of it. On balance, I think that there was sufficient evidence to warrant a finding that Peter was removed from Utopia by a person in authority such as patrol officer Kitching and that his mother did not accompany him on the trip to Alice Springs. 838 The absence of Mr Gunner's aunts was however significant in another area: was his removal effected, with, or without, his mother's consent? The evidence of Johnny Skinner was to the effect that Mr Gunner's mother did not want him. Harry Kitching's reports point to Topsy having agreed to Peter being removed. The form of consent that was said to bear Topsy's thumbprint was consistent with the proposition that she consented to his removal. If it would not be a proper inference to draw from these three items of evidence that Peter was taken away from Utopia, either at his mother's request, or at least with her consent, then who better than Topsy's sisters to give evidence to the contrary? Their absence suggested that their evidence would not support a finding of non-consensual removal. The inference that Topsy consented to his removal was available and is more readily acceptable because of Mr Gunner's failure to call Molly, Polly, Kathleen and Angeline. He could have also called Minnie and Florrie Ware; they were said to have been present when he was taken away. I am satisfied, and I find, that patrol officer Kitching took Peter from Utopia Station in May 1956, that he transported Peter to the Bungalow Settlement in Alice Springs and that even though Peter did not want to leave his mother and his extended family, his mother had consented to his leaving and had requested Mr Kitching to take Peter away. 839 At the time when Mr Gunner was taken from Utopia Station to the Bungalow, he said that he could not speak any English at all; there was, however, an elderly man, a full blood Aboriginal, at the Bungalow who spoke Mr Gunner's language. Mr Gunner stayed with this man and his family until he was taken to St Mary's. On 21 May, 1956, while he was visiting Alice Springs, Mr Giese signed an Order, under ss 6 and 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance, committing Peter Gunner to the custody of St Mary's. By letter dated 24 May 1956 Mr McCoy wrote Captain Steep informing him that Peter Gunner had been admitted to St Mary's Hostel. A second committal order, in exactly the same terms save for the date and the place of execution (Darwin) was made by Mr Giese in the following year on 19 February 1957. There was no evidence to explain the reason for this second order. 840 Mr Gunner was asked: "Who took you from – what sort of person took you from the Bungalow to St Mary's? --- The white person was a man with the same uniform, the same khaki uniform, the driver of the truck. The truck was a khaki one kind of truck with yarding rails all around it just a bit higher than a grown up person's chest, be about that high to chest level and the old man that was looking after me he was on the truck to accompany me down to St Mary's on the back of the truck." 841 Captain Steep, went to St Mary's with his wife because he had earlier evinced an interest in working with Aboriginal people. The Steeps took up their appointments in January 1956, four months before the arrival of Peter Gunner. They stayed almost four years, leaving in December 1959. Captain Steep said that his wife was not a disciplinarian and he disagreed with the contents of a report that had been compiled by Mrs Ballagh in August 1956 as a result of statements made to her by Miss Ball a missionary at St Mary's. Those statements included an allegation that Mrs Steep "resorts to a harsh manner and a stick". Having observed Mrs Steep while she gave her evidence, I found it difficult to imagine her as having a "harsh manner". She presented as a person who found good in everyone and everything; she is a person who has an ability to put out of her mind unpleasant episodes. In re-examination it was put to her: "You didn't hear complaints from almost anyone while you were there, did you, Mrs Steep? Her answer gives some indication of the happy unreal life that she was able to live: "Not really. I think if you make up your mind that you're going to enjoy where you are – that was my attitude any way, that we always were quite happy, you know, wherever we were planted." She added, in response to a further question from cross-examining counsel that she could not recollect "any complaints from the children about anything". I cannot accept her evidence as an appropriate description of life at St Mary's in the early 1950s. 842 Although he had not met her, Captain Steep was aware that he was taking over the former role of Sister Eileen Heath. Later he came to know her as a welfare officer. At the time of his and his wife's arrival, Archdeacon Rogers was resident in Alice Springs and was the nominated Superintendent of St Mary's. Captain Steep was aware that he would be working under and at the direction of the Archdeacon. By letter dated 19 November 1958, the Bishop of Carpentaria wrote the Director of Welfare advising him that Archdeacon Rogers had resigned from his position as Archdeacon of the Northern Territory with effect from 24 November. The letter continued that "until I inform you further, Captain C Steep of St Mary's Hostel will be Acting Superintendent". Mr Giese, the Director of Welfare replied to the Bishop's letter, asking to be kept informed, but neither challenging nor approving the appointment of Captain Steep as the Acting Superintendent. On 3 March 1959, the Bishop was able to write the Director of Welfare informing him that the Venerable AH Bott had been appointed Archdeacon of the Northern Territory and Superintendent of St Mary's Hostel. 843 During his four years at St Mary's, Captain Steep said that the number of children who were living in the Hostel varied from time to time but it was his estimate that they would average out at about sixty-four: about twenty-four boys and about forty girls. Ages ranged from as low as six to about fifteen. He added that, very occasionally, there would be a five year old and "a handful" of sixteen and seventeen year olds. Captain Steep said that, at the time of his arrival, Miss Ann Ball, then a woman in her fifties, was in charge of the boys. When she left, Mr Malcolm Bald took over that responsibility. After Miss Ball left St Mary's, Captain Steep lost contact with her. It seems reasonably certain that she would now be dead; in any event, neither side was able to locate her. Captain Steep agreed that Miss Ball's decision to leave St Mary's stemmed back to an argument that she had with Mrs Steep when Mrs Steep complained to her that some of the girls were going to school in dirty clothes. That is probably right because on 24 August 1956 Mrs Ballagh wrote to the District Welfare Officer advising him that Miss Ball had told her that she would "be leaving St Mary's as soon as she could find someone to take over her duties as Guide Leader, as she was unhappy working under existing conditions". 844 When asked during his evidence in chief, to describe his experience when he started at St Mary's, Captain Steep said that he suffered difficulties. His understanding was that Sister Eileen had been asked to leave by the Bishop of the Diocese because it was considered that it would be better if a married couple was in place at St Mary's. Captain Steep believed that there was a strong feeling in the Anglican community that Sister Eileen should have been retained and hence, as he said "the atmosphere was a bit hostile towards us to begin with". When asked to describe his duties at St Mary's, Captain Steep replied, rather defensively, that he had to help the farmer who had been injured in a road accident; he added: "I don't think I neglected my role in the hostel." 845 Captain Steep said that within a few months of his arrival he had the Hostel's farm operational. It was able to supply the vegetables that the Hostel needed; it also had poultry and dairy cattle sufficient to supply all the milk that was needed. Captain Steep acknowledged that he did not consider that the food situation was satisfactory when he arrived at St Mary's. He recalled finding a child rummaging through a rubbish bin and telling him that he was still hungry; as he said "it was what alerted me" to increase the food for the children. Captain Steep said that he knew that he had the responsibility to make sure that the children were properly fed and "housed and cared for". He also said that "if there was any distress in any of the children" he felt that he had "a certain responsibility to make sure that they were eased" and he agreed that it was quite common for a child to be distressed during the first week or so at St Mary's; he said that it took them time to settle into a new lifestyle. 846 It was Captain Steep's belief that he established good relationships with both the boys and the girls at St Mary's. Speaking of the boys, he said: "The best times - the best times would be when they were getting into bed at night. I used to - to go and make a point of just sitting down on the foot of one of the beds and - and when the lights went out we used to talk. I found this was the same thing with my own family, later on when they got a bit older, but that was the time when the kids would open up and - and really share their deepest feelings." Captain Steep said, and I accept, that he and his wife continue to share many friendships that were formed during their days at St Mary's. In particular, while assistant priest in a parish in New South Wales subsequent to his time at St Mary's, Mr Constable brought a group of St Mary's children through New South Wales over the Christmas holidays and Captain Steep was able to arrange overnight accommodation for them in the church hall. Later in his evidence, he said that he saw his responsibilities as requiring him to give the children "adequate care and provision of food, clothing, housing and then to see that they attended the school and that we gave them at home, back in the hostel, support and spiritual teaching". 847 Captain Steep was aware that some of the children who were at St Mary's in his time had been placed there by the Welfare Branch. At the time when he gave his evidence, his memory let him down on subjects such as finances and budgets but it was his recollection that when the time came for a child to leave St Mary's, it was necessary for St Mary's to advise the Welfare Branch of the name of the child and the intended date on which the child would be leaving. Captain Steep said that there were occasions when welfare officers visited St Mary's. He remembered visits from Mr Giese, Mr Milliken, Mr McCoy and Mrs Ballagh. On some, but not all of those occasions, the visits would be made in the company of the Superintendent. Captain Steep knew Mr McCoy as "the local officer in charge of the Welfare Branch at Alice Springs"; he said of him "I had a line through to him quite frequently and he communicated with me quite frequently". 848 Captain Steep said that he did not have any knowledge about the law as it related to Aboriginal and part Aboriginal children. He said that he was aware of the existence of some Ordinance and that Mr McCoy referred to the provisions of an Ordinance from time to time. But that would seem to be the limit of his present memory about his former knowledge. In fairness to Captain Steep, his letter of 11 February 1959 to Mr Milliken showed that, at that time, he had a working knowledge of some part, at least, of the relevant legislation. When giving his evidence, he was not aware of the State Children's Council nor did he know that some children had been made the subject of orders by the Children's Court. He was, however, aware that some children at St Mary's had been declared wards. Captain Steep was asked whether he was aware, whilst he was at St Mary's, of any child having been forcibly removed from his or her family. He commenced his answer by naming a girl, saying of her: "I don't know whether she was initially forcibly removed, but a week after she was admitted to the hostel her father, not her biological father, but Old Charlie, came and took her. He met her at the school and got her to come out and change her clothes and then take her back. I phoned Mr McCoy and I told him the story and he said, 'Well, Colin', he said, 'it's this way', he said, 'We have no power. If she wants to stay home and the parents want her to stay home she stays home'." 849 It appeared to me that with the huge gap in time that has occurred since he was at St Mary's, Captain Steep has become confused between those children who were at St Mary's at the request of their parents and those who had been placed there by the Welfare Branch and who had been legally classified as "Wards". Initially, in his evidence in chief, he talked of there being no power of compulsion that could be exercised to keep a child at St Mary's. That was correct, but only in its application to the first group of children – those who were there at the request of their parents. Under cross-examination, he was forced to concede that no such freedom of choice was available to those children who were wards. I am satisfied that Captain Steep was confused when giving his evidence on this subject. For example, he maintained that he did not know that Peter Gunner had been committed to St Mary's; he said that he never knew that he was a ward. I regard those statements as statements of his present memory; the likelihood of him not having received at least one of the two orders of committal that were made in respect of Peter Gunner was remote. 850 Captain Steep gave instances of part Aboriginal families who had requested him to take their children into St Mary's so that the children would have an opportunity to receive an education. He gave other examples of station owners making arrangements for part Aboriginal children to come to St Mary's. He said of such arrangements that there would be occasions when the station owners would visit St Mary's to inquire of the children or bring the parents into Alice Springs so that they could see their children. He also said that no attempt was made to prevent the parents of children visiting them at St Mary's. Captain Steep explained that the only qualification was: "… unless they came under the influence of alcohol or something like that." This subject was revisited later in his examination in chief. He said that he was aware that many parents from outback stations were able to visit their children in St Mary's by obtaining rides into Alice Springs with station owners or station hands. During the course of his cross-examination, it was put to Captain Steep that his association with Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people had shown that they had a great love for their children. Captain Steep agreed with that proposition without qualification. 851 Captain Steep said it was quite a normal practice for children at St Mary's to go to their families during school holidays. However, not all children were able to do that. Captain Steep, on two occasions, arranged for those children who could not go home, to have interstate trips. This involved the Welfare Branch, to which St Mary's had made submissions for financial assistance to fund the costs of the children's holiday. Although the first request for financial assistance was denied, the Welfare Branch was pleased with the results of the holiday and gave financial assistance thereafter. According to Captain Steep, a summary of the situation was that St Mary's advised Welfare – Welfare did not advise St Mary's – which children would be going home and which ones would be going south on holidays in the St Mary's group. The tenor of Captain Steep's letters to Mr McCoy dated 5 September 1956 and 15 November 1956 supports this conclusion; they were written in terms of supplying information. If that correctly states the position, it might mean that it was St Mary's that was at fault in not arranging for Peter to go home – either because it knew that he was expected to go home and failed to make the appropriate arrangements or because it failed to make any or any proper inquiries to ascertain whether it was appropriate for him to go home. On the other hand, Mr McCoy's letter to Captain Steep dated 23 September 1958 couched in such terms as "Stephen may return to Hamilton Downs Station for school holidays …" suggested, contrary to Captain Steep's recollection that, in relation to wards, the last word rested with the Welfare Branch. Ultimately, Captain Steep accepted that to be the position. 852 Captain Steep's evidence about the financing of the children was somewhat vague but, as best as I can understand it, most children would not be admitted without him first obtaining the approval of the Welfare Branch. This was because of the Branch's commitment to the costs of maintaining the operations of St Mary's. Over and above that commitment, there were, however, child welfare payments, boarding allowances and private contributions from parents that were receivable by St Mary's independently of the Welfare Branch. 853 Captain Steep had a confidence in his ability which I could not share. He was not a boastful man; on the contrary, he was quiet, almost to the point of self deprecation at times. Yet he claimed that he had "plenty of confidence" in his ability and felt that "ultimately we won through". He said that he had relied on his training through the Church army in children's work and his involvement with children during a period of three years in the early 1950s. However, even though he had had experience in teaching children, Captain Steep acknowledged that he had had no prior experience in running a hostel. I am satisfied that, at all times throughout his evidence, he answered all questions truthfully and to the best of his ability; he agreed with most, but not all of Mrs Ballagh's criticisms. There were times when I felt that he exhibited signs of naivety and there were times when his willingness to agree suggested that he was a person who was overly eager to please. However, with these qualifications, I find myself able to rely to a substantial degree on his evidence. An example of his openness appears from the following passage in his evidence after he had read one of Mrs Ballagh's critical reports of him: "… I guess maybe she could have been referring to my wife and I with our devotion to the church. I wouldn't say that - I wouldn't agree with her that I was totally out of touch with children and psychology of society at large. I wouldn't agree with her there, but by and large it's a good report." He also agreed that none of the staff at St Mary's had the training and experience that Mrs Ballagh sought, but he added pragmatically: "… there is no way in the world that you could induce anybody, with long experience and training in children, to come to St Mary's as it was in 1956, and it would be ludicrous to think otherwise …" Once more however, his honesty came forth: "… I mean we didn't have a great depth of understanding of children coming in totally from the bush, from a different culture and society, and I guess I was as frustrated as she was, but we had to learn. We were - we were learning in the process and I believe we learnt fairly quickly. But I - I quite agree that she had a good assessment of the situation at that time." He even agreed with Mrs Ballagh's observation that he and his wife had not then matured. 854 It would seem from the evidence that was adduced during the course of the hearing that the records of the children that were kept at St Mary's were inadequate and probably, at times, non existent. Little by way of detail was tendered in evidence, but the testimony of Captain Steep tended to justify such a conclusion. The only details that he could recall about the children when he first arrived at St Mary's were their dates of birth. He said that "there may have been others there, but I can only recall that". Surely the Hostel would have had some record of the children's parents and their addresses, and if it did not, it should have. After all, some of the children were boarding at St Mary's at the request of their parents who were contributing to the cost of their upkeep. 855 Mrs Ballagh wrote a memorandum to her District Welfare Officer on 30 April 1957 in which she reported that the Bishop had agreed that personal files and record cards should be established at St Mary's. However, she reported that "to date I have not heard that anything has been done to establish records at St Mary's". The best evidence about the subject of records at St Mary's came from a memorandum from Mr McCoy, the Acting District Welfare Officer to Mr Giese, the Director of Welfare dated 23 May 1957. He wrote in part: "Sister Heath, when in charge of the Institution, maintained a register in which all relevant information concerning the individual children was entered and I am assured this volume was left there when Sister Heath resigned. Recourse to this source of information would have provided all the information required. As you know the present management has made no effort to introduce individual case records, but is belatedly doing so now at the request of this Office. In future a personal history sheet will be forwarded to the Institution with each child for admission and this should form the basis of the case record in each instance." 856 On 21 October 1958, Mrs Ballagh compiled a report to the District Welfare Officer concerning a St Mary's girl who had been sent by her school teacher to the hospital for treatment to her eyes. She asked rhetorically "why was the child not taken to the hospital for medical advice and treatment earlier by the Warden"? She continued: "I have put it to Captain Steep in the past to keep an individual health record card for each child …" When pressed in cross-examination, Captain Steep had to concede that he could not recall keeping a record card system in relation to any of the children. It is astounding to contemplate that an institution of the size of St Mary's would not have maintained medical records of the children; but none was tendered in evidence. 857 The advent of Mr Bennier as Warden brought some action. On 5 January 1960, Mr McCoy wrote his Director informing him that Mr Bennier had sought his advice about establishing individual record cards for each child. The purpose of Mr McCoy's memorandum was to inquire whether the Director had "a pro forma of the record cards" that he would like used uniformly throughout the Territory. However, Mr McCoy added, (speaking of Captain Steep): "The retiring Warden has not left adequate information from which Mr Bennier can complete his records …" This then was the sad and sorry story of the administration of St Mary's under Captain Steep and Archdeacons Rogers and Bott. It was, I must say, symptomatic of the manner in which St Mary's operated in the period of Captain Steep's management. Everything about it demonstrated not only management neglect, but also a lack of management skill. It was only towards the end of his cross-examination that Captain Steep admitted what had become obvious: he had not kept records while he was the Warden at St Mary's. Mr McCoy's letters of 23 May 1957 and 5 January 1960, pointed to Sister Eileen and Mr Bennier maintaining some records. However, they were not specified and no findings can be made as to the details of those records. As to Captain Steep however, the complaints from the welfare officers, coupled with his own evidence, was sufficient to sustain a finding that he did not keep any records of the children's health or personal circumstances whilst he was Warden. The decline in St Mary's started with the departure of Sister Eileen and the arrival of Captain Steep. Administration picked up in Mr Bennier's time but there was no improvement in the facilities. They remained in a very poor condition and stayed in that condition whilst Archdeacon Bott was Superintendent. 858 Captain Steep met Mr Gunner when he arrived at St Mary's. According to Mr Gunner, Archdeacon and Mrs Bott were living at St Mary's for the whole of the time that he was there. Later he said that Captain Steep was at St Mary's when he arrived and for a short time thereafter. Mr Gunner was wrong when he said that Archdeacon Bott was living at St Mary's when he arrived there. There was other independent evidence that Archdeacon Bott, although the Superintendent of St Mary's, did not live there until after Captain and Mrs Steep left. Mr Gunner said that Teddy Nicka, a relation, was with Captain Steep when Peter arrived at St Mary's; he was able to speak to him in his own language. Teddy, who was older than Peter was already a resident at St Mary's. He had also come from Utopia. Asked whether there were other children who came to St Mary's in his time, other than at the request of their parents or a station owner, Captain Steep answered that there were only two that he could recall, one of whom was Peter Gunner. In giving that answer, I only understood Captain Steep to mean that Peter was not brought into St Mary's by his family or by a station owner. Captain Steep remembered the day that Mr Kitching brought Peter Gunner to St Mary's; he remembered that Peter seemed "a little bit lost". He knew that Peter had come from an Aboriginal camp in the Utopia area and he knew that he could not speak English. His evidence was as follows: "Can you tell his Honour about the admission of Peter Gunner? --- Yes. Did you have forewarning of that? --- I can't remember the actual forewarning but I guess there would've been forewarning, but I can remember the day that Peter arrived. Would you tell his Honour about that, please? --- Yes, it was in the afternoon, just after we'd finished tea, and the children have all gone out in the - the front of the dining room and - and I'm sure it was Mr Kitching who arrived in the - the patrol truck and there was another part-Aboriginal man in - in the truck with Peter, and - and - and Peter got out and he did seem a little bit lost I will admit, that the surroundings were completely foreign to him and then one of the - oh, a couple of the boys ran over to the truck and Donnie Kunoth took Peter by the hand and he brought him over and introduced him to me." 859 Whether it was Donny Kunoth as Captain Steep recalled or Teddy Nicka who came forward and interpreted for Peter, the children who had then gathered around took Peter off while Captain Steep continued to talk to Mr Kitching. He said that he did not notice any distress in Peter at the time of his arrival. Quite late in his cross-examination, however, Captain Steep volunteered that Peter "didn't assimilate or didn't respond the same as some other boys did". 860 Captain Steep said that he had fond memories of Peter; he said that he was liked by the staff and by the other boys; he had no memory of him running away from St Mary's nor did he have any memory of any details about Peter's home life. He agreed in cross-examination that it would have been of some assistance to him if he had been informed by the Welfare Branch about Peter's "relationship with his mother". That subject was not pursued by the cross-examiner in any further detail and it is difficult to know what use Captain Steep could have made of the information that Peter's mother was Topsy, a full blood traditional Aboriginal woman living in an Aboriginal community on Utopia Station. It could not be inferred that this information would have given St Mary's a point of contact through Utopia Station for Captain Steep already knew that Peter had come from Utopia. 861 When he was answering questions in cross-examination, Mr Gunner would not accept that there were other, older children at St Mary's when he arrived there who were able to speak one of the languages with which he was familiar. Later however, during his cross-examination, he acknowledged that Daniel Forrester, another inmate, looked after him when he arrived and that Daniel was able to speak to him in his native tongue. But later again, whilst acknowledging that Daniel Forrester assisted him when he arrived at St Mary's, he went on to say of Daniel "but I can't recall this person talking to me in my own language". 862 Mr Gunner said that he received floggings for using his Aboriginal language at St Mary's, for using his fingers to eat his food and for putting food in his pocket. He also said that by the time he left St Mary's, he had lost his native tongue. He agreed however, that English was the common language spoken by the children at St Mary's; as he said, it was spoken by all the children and it was the language that they were taught at school. He named Mr Malcolm Bald as the person who administered these floggings; he said that he used a garden hose or a strap. He said that mostly he was hit across the bottom, but there were occasions when he was hit on the back; he said that he had never been hit in such a way as a child when he was with his family at Utopia. He also got into trouble because he was not accustomed to sleeping in a bed; he would make a bed for himself on the floor. He said that he was punished for wetting his bed. Asked what would happen when he wet the bed or when he slept on the floor, he answered that he would get "floggings". 863 Mr Constable said that there was a problem with bed wetting, particularly with the little boys, but, so he said, they were never the subject of discipline unless they tried to hide the event by making their bed; Mr Constable explained that it would be necessary for wet mattresses to be aired and dried and this would not be done if the boy had made his bed and hidden the fact that it was wet. He claimed that he never administered corporal punishment to a boy because of bed wetting and, in particular, he never administered corporal punishment to Peter Gunner for that reason. 864 Mr Gunner said that when he first went to St Mary's, Mr Malcolm Bald was in charge of the boys' dormitory but that, after a while, he was replaced by Mr Kevin Constable. Bed wetting continued and he received the same punishment from Mr Constable as that which had previously been administered by Mr Bald. According to Captain Steep, bed wetting was not a problem at St Mary's; he said he could only remember one or two cases; and he denied that a child would have been punished if he or she had wet the bed. He was pressed on this subject during his cross-examination. It was put to him that Peter Gunner was a "constant bed wetter" but all he could say was that "it wouldn't surprise me, yes, if Peter was a bed wetter". Asked whether there was any difference in the frequency of the beltings between Mr Bald and Mr Constable, Mr Gunner replied: "I don't really see the difference between Mr Bald and Mr Constable. The floggings always occurred." Mr Gunner said that it was only Mr Bald and Mr Constable who behaved inappropriately towards him when he was at St Mary's. He also said that other children were belted as well as him. Asked how he felt about that, he said that he usually cried: "… because the other child is crying while they getting belted by someone so we cry for the kid that getting the hiding." 865 I found that segment of Mr Gunner's evidence very believable. Unlike some areas of his evidence where he was obviously guessing, there was a discernible sadness in his voice and his appearance when he gave that answer. 866 Captain Steep agreed that the children were compelled to learn English. They were not, however, punished for using their native tongue. According to Captain Steep, he had a personal interest in Aboriginal culture and made use of some Aboriginal friends in his attempts to improve his knowledge. He said that the children in St Mary's did not know all that much about their culture; that, probably, was due in part to their age and in part to their absence from their communities. Captain Steep said that although he did not do anything to encourage the children to pursue an interest in their culture, he did not discourage them. 867 Captain Steep said that the children were trained to use, and were expected to use, knives, forks and spoons when eating their meals. He could not recall, however, administering punishment to any child who did not use the utensils but he allowed for the possibility that another member of staff might have done so. He said that the children were allowed to look for bush tucker, although Captain Steep said he forbade them chasing emus after one boy had been knocked unconscious by an emu when he tried to steal one of her chicks. Captain Steep told of an incident which many would find amusing as a boyish prank. The boys decided to use the Hostel's dairy cows as "rodeo" mounts. The farmer was at a loss to know why the cows were not giving any milk. When the truth was discovered and the culprits were identified, they were denied milk on their cornflakes for a fortnight. The interesting aftermath of that story was that the children complained about the punishment to Mr McCoy, thereby showing that they had a line of communication to the Welfare Branch and that they were able to use it. 868 Mr Gunner said that while he was at St Mary's, he went to the Hartley Street School. He had no idea of age – either his own or the other children in the class – but he was physically much bigger than the others. One only of Mr Gunner's school reports was tendered in evidence. In it he was marked as "retarded" for Reading, Spelling, Language, Arithmetic and Writing. However, for Art, the report read: "Well developed and it is the only thing Peter is interested in doing. At Peter's age it is extremely unlikely that he will ever recover his retardation." 869 Mr Gunner was good at art work at school, but save for this, he admitted that when he left school he could not spell; he could only print some letters but he could not read nor could he write in cursive form. I would not label Mr Gunner, after listening to him for several days while he gave his evidence, as retarded: I do, however, describe him as slow thinking and easily confused. I also found it of interest that the school report referred to him as "sullen and moody"; I observed that those traits have remained with him in his adult life. 870 Captain Steep was of the opinion that the St Mary's children had equal opportunity for education with white children. I cannot agree with that statement in so far as it might be thought to apply to Peter Gunner; he was a child who had no background in the English language or in European culture. It was not possible, even with the best will in the world, to give him the same opportunities for an education as those that would have been enjoyed by a white child of the same age who was already speaking English and for whom the culture and environment at a school would not be as foreign as it would have been to a part Aboriginal child from the bush. Mr Milliken agreed that it would have been very hard for an eight year old part Aboriginal child, with no knowledge of English, coming from a traditional Aboriginal community, to obtain a standard European education. Captain Steep agreed that Peter knew virtually no English when he arrived at St Mary's, although he claimed that, with the aid of Donny and Colin Kunoth, Peter picked up English "fairly quickly". Captain Steep said that he had no knowledge of Peter's family and he had no recollection of Peter speaking about his family; he added that Peter never said anything to him about returning home for holidays and that he (Captain Steep) knew of no impediment to Peter contacting his family. In giving that answer, Captain Steep obviously overlooked the fact that Peter, a young part Aboriginal boy of eight would have had no way of making contact with his family; there was the impediment of a totally foreign environment. 871 Mrs Sandra Wonka gave evidence on Mr Gunner's behalf. She had been a school girl of European heritage at the Hartley Street School in Alice Springs at the same time as Mr Gunner. She remembered children from St Mary's, and Mr Gunner in particular, attending the school at that time. Mrs Wonka's evidence in chief was not challenged in any respect and understandably so. She had very good recall and she gave her evidence clearly and competently. In summary, she described Mr Gunner as a tall, skinny, shy boy who seemed to be much older and much taller than the other children in his class. Although he was in the same class as her throughout grades two, three and four, he mixed mainly with the other part Aboriginal boys. She recalled that he had ability in drawing but not otherwise. She remembered Peter as having difficulty with reading and writing but, she said "he was a better drawer than he was writer". He did not mix well. Speaking more generally of the St Mary's children, she was critical of their clothing; in her assessment, it was a much lower standard than the clothes of the European children and the part Aboriginal children from Griffith House. She was also critical of the food that the St Mary's children were given for lunch. She said that she might have a corned beef and pickle sandwich whereas they would just have jam. She would have fruit and the St Mary's children would often say "gimmee", entreating her to give them part of her lunch. Mrs Wonka's evidence was of minimal value as it was not directed to any of the principal issues in the trial. At its highest, it was only critical of some of the standards of St Mary's Hostel – in particular those that related to the children's clothing and food. 872 Mr William Riley Wilson, who was employed as a teacher at the Hartley Street School in Alice Springs from 1957 to 1958, was called as a witness as part of the Commonwealth's case against Mr Peter Gunner. I was impressed by Mr Wilson. I accept him as a witness of truth and I accept his evidence about the St Mary's children and their education. His testimony was about the availability of schooling in Alice Springs and in the Hartley Street School. He gave evidence about the structure of a day's activities and the curriculum; he also talked about the part Aboriginal children using their native languages. Mr Wilson's testimony included specific recollections of the St Mary's children in terms of attire, academic results and general demeanour. He could not, however, recall a child called Peter Gunner. 873 In 1957 and 1958, there was one Commonwealth School in Alice Springs, known as the Alice Springs Higher Primary School. That school was operated and administered by the South Australian Department of Education. It comprised two separate campuses, the Hartley Street School, which was a junior primary school from reception to year five, and the Anzac Hill School which catered for the upper years, six to eleven. Matriculation was not an option in those years nor was tertiary education. The School of the Air was also available and a limited number of Aboriginal children did participate. Another school, known as the Bungalow school, was only for full blood Aboriginal children. 874 As a teacher at the Hartley Street School, Mr Wilson was responsible for grades four and five which encompassed children ranging from eight to fourteen years of age. Of fifty-nine children, about half were part Aboriginal. He said that, as the years progressed, many of the part Aboriginal children dropped out because they had a general disinterest with school. He could understand that as some were not achieving. Of those part Aboriginal children attending Hartley Street, only some came from St Mary's. The remainder were from St John's, from the Gap Settlement and those who lived with their parents in the town itself. 875 He described the curriculum as highly structured. Language was broken up into spelling, dictation, grammar, composition, poetry and reading. Other subjects included history, geography (which became social studies in 1950) art, physical education, science and music. The syllabus did not embrace or recognise Aboriginal cultures or languages and he said that there was an absence of support in relation to part Aboriginal children at the school. English was a difficult area for the part Aboriginal children; "they were quite lacking" and the school had no language policy with regard to Aboriginal languages. 876 In cross-examination, Mr Wilson agreed with counsel that a part Aboriginal child starting school without the background of an average European child was at a serious disadvantage and that such a child would have much greater difficulty gaining benefit from the curriculum that was taught. He said that the part Aboriginal children in his classes were very good at art, but they did not do as well coping with the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic. The achievement overall of the part Aboriginal children was not of a high standard, and there was no provision for vocational training in the school system at that time. 877 Mr Wilson was asked specifically about the children from St Mary's. Their attendance at school, from his recall, was "pretty good", and they were "a fairly healthy – healthy lot of children". He thought of the St Mary's children as "a pretty happy group of children". However, they did not fair well academically. Mr Wilson gave evidence that the St Mary's children wore a grey uniform or a grey tunic with a white blouse for the girls, sandals in summer and shoes and socks in the winter. However, he noted that some of them did not wear shoes; he suggested that may have been because it would have been very difficult to fit standard shoes on their callused feet. Mr Wilson described the conditions at the Gap Settlement as "deplorable", and noted a distinct difference between the children from St Mary's and those from the Gap Settlement. In his opinion the children at St Mary's were far better placed than the Gap Settlement children. 878 Mr Gunner complained that, while he was at St Mary's, he and the other children were always hungry during the night. He told of the children's habit of going to the Alice Springs rubbish dump looking for additional food. He also said, during the course of his re‑examination, that he ate food from rubbish bins in the school yard when he was at school in Alice Springs. Asked why he did this, he replied "it just that we never had these nice apples or oranges". It was put to Mr Wilson that St Mary's children scrounged in bins for food; he replied that "would have been pretty hard to do" because he understood there to be only two bins at the school that "would have been emptied at the end of the lunch period". Mr Wilson had never met any of the staff from St Mary's, nor any parents of the St Mary's children. He could not recall a child from St Mary's complain to him about their treatment. 879 Mr Gunner tried to run away several times from St Mary's – on each occasion with Colin Kunoth. He said that he "didn't get too far because I didn't know which way my mother was anyway so I was very easy caught by the police and the police brought me back to St Mary's". He said that he got a flogging from Mr Constable for this episode and when asked how many times he was hit he said "about thirty-six hits". In cross-examination when questioned about the flogging that he received at the hands of Mr Constable when he ran away the first time with Colin Kunoth, Mr Gunner said that he was hit about ten times. The following exchange then took place: "What I put to you is that yesterday you were asked how many hits you got after that first time you ran away and you said 36 hits. Do you recall giving that evidence? --- I do recall giving that evidence yesterday. Right. Now, I'm asking which evidence is true? Was it 36 hits or about 10 hits? --- It's 36. 36. Well, what happened to the 10 hits that you mentioned a few minutes ago? Was that wrong, was it, Mr Gunner? --- Well, I said may have been 10, may have been more. Yes, but I said, was it many more, and you said, no, it wouldn't have been many more times; do you remember saying that, Mr Gunner? --- I remember saying it but I just - I never said it was 10. I said it could have been more than 10. I mean …" 880 Mr Gunner's answers were not consistent with what he had said only a few minutes before. According to the transcript, he gave the following answers: "How many times do you say he hit you on this occasion? --- Could've been 10 hits. It could've been 10? --- Mm mm. Could it have been more than 10 or less than 10? --- Could've been more than 10. Many more than 10? --- I wouldn't say many more, but it could've been just a bit more than 10. How clearly do you remember this occasion when you say Mr Constable hit you, Mr Gunner? --- I'm pretty certain. You're pretty certain about it? --- Yep. And you're pretty certain it was about 10 hits, it wouldn't have been many more than that; is that right? --- That's correct." 881 On the second occasion when he ran away, he was a little more successful, in that he was absent for about a week before an Aboriginal police tracker caught up with him. He said that he received another flogging and he also had to "work part of the punishment" by milking cows and collecting wood for the kitchen. In cross-examination, Mr Gunner was asked whether he could recall the interval of time between the first and the second occasion when he ran away from St Mary's. In answer to the cross-examiner, he said that he and Colin Kunoth stayed away longer than the first occasion which he had earlier said was three days. He said that they were away "much longer" but that he could not recall the exact period. It was then put to him that he had told his counsel, Mr Rush QC, during his evidence in chief that he had "cleared off from St Mary's for a week till the police got an Aboriginal police tracker …". The cross-examiner then asked him whether he remembered telling Mr Rush that he had been away for about a week on that second occasion. Mr Gunner could only reply "I just can't recall". He was tested in cross-examination about his evidence of having to milk cows and collect wood as extra punishment. Having said that he was flogged by receiving thirty-six or thirty-seven hits, he was then asked by the cross-examiner whether he received any other punishment. He mentioned having to go to the dormitory earlier than the other boys and so missing playtime with them, but he made no mention of having to work on the farm. 882 When Mr Gunner was asked to describe what he meant by the use of the word "flogging"; he said that he and the other boys were required to drop their shorts and bend over a table; they were then hit on the bare buttocks with a hose. The hose was, so he said, an ordinary green piece of garden hose. Asked whether it was Mr Bald or Mr Constable or both who hit the boys in this manner, Mr Gunner replied that it was Mr Constable. The cross-examiner said to Mr Gunner that he had told his counsel in answer to a question that he was wearing "little grey shorts" when he was strapped across the buttocks by Mr Constable. It was then put to him, and he agreed, that his cross-examination was the first occasion upon which he had referred to Mr Constable hitting him on the bare buttocks. Although Mr Gunner was insistent that Mr Constable made him take his pants down when he hit him with the rubber hose, he said in cross-examination that he could not recall whether he hit other boys like that. Mr Gunner said that he felt different; he felt that he was "singled out" by Mr Constable. 883 On the third and last occasion when he ran away, Mr Gunner said that he was absent for about four weeks; he lived in and around Alice Springs, fending for himself until the police caught up with him and brought him back to St Mary's. On that occasion he said that his punishment was "to dig a big swimming pool out at St Mary's with pick and shovel". Mr Gunner named Mr Constable as the person who gave him a flogging for this third attempt to leave St Mary's. When asked how many times he was hit by Mr Constable on the third occasion his answer was: "About thirty, thirty – thirty-seven, thirty-eight hits." 884 He said he did not count the number of times he was hit because Mr Constable had told him how many times he was going to hit him; this was another small factor that had not previously been mentioned by Mr Constable in his evidence in chief. It was put to Mr Gunner in cross-examination that it was Mr Malcolm Bald who was in charge of the swimming pool project and that the swimming pool had been completed before Mr Constable arrived. He would not agree. He maintained that Mr Constable was at St Mary's when "we were digging so he was part of the completing of the swimming pool". He said the swimming pool had not been started when he arrived at St Mary's; the best he could say was that work on it commenced somewhere in the middle of his stay at St Mary's. I think that this section of Mr Gunner's evidence about the swimming pool might be correct. It is probable that it was started in Mr Bald's time, but relying on Mrs Ballagh's report, a report that was based on her inspection of St Mary's on 15 August 1958, it is possible that it was not then completed. The language of her report – "The boys have been engaged in making the excavations required for the building of a swimming pool" – could mean that the boys' work was then completed, but it could also mean that their work was ongoing. If the latter should be the correct interpretation, then, as Mr Constable arrived at St Mary's on 28 August 1958, it could mean that there was still work to be done after his arrival. 885 At the end of the section of cross-examination that dealt with the number of times that Mr Gunner ran away from St Mary's, a copy of his witness statement was put before him and he was asked to read the contents of par 40; after he had done that it was put to him, and he agreed, that he had said in his witness statement that he only ran away from St Mary's on two occasions. There is a report from Mrs Ballagh of two boys absconding from St Mary's Hostel on Monday morning, 16 October 1961. The boys were named as Peter Gunner, aged thirteen, and Colin Kunoth, aged thirteen. Although the report named Peter and Colin as being both aged thirteen, Mr Gunner claimed that he was much younger. However, if the information in Mr Gunner's birth certificate can be relied on, he would have been aged thirteen years of age in 1961. There is, however, nothing to indicate whether this was the first, second or third occasion upon which he absconded. 886 Mr Gunner was shown Mr Kitching's report of 6 April 1955. That was the report that referred to children fleeing at the sight of a patrol officer. Mr Gunner agreed with Mr Kitching's comments. When the passage was read to him Mr Gunner said: "Yes that's correct. People would flee from the camp, just kids take off in all directions. The mothers grab the kids and take off with their kids." 887 Mr Gunner never went back to Utopia or to his family during school holidays. He either stayed at St Mary's or he travelled with a group of St Mary's children on an interstate holiday. His first interstate trip was to Adelaide; the group went on The Ghan to Port Augusta and drove from Port Augusta to Adelaide. The second interstate trip was a visit to Sydney. He and the other children travelled in a volkswagon kombi van that was driven by Mr Constable. He agreed that when he was at St Mary's most of the children went home on school holidays but he and about ten or twelve other children did not. He said that he felt that it would have made a big difference if he had been allowed to go home in the school holidays so that he could have kept in touch with his mother. He knew that Teddy Nicka went home, but he did not know how Teddy managed to do that. According to Mr Gunner, whilst he was a small child at Utopia, he rarely, if ever, wore any clothes, but he did recall Teddy Nicka wearing them. It was put to him that this was because Teddy Nicka was home on holidays from school in Alice Springs; however, Mr Gunner could not recall Teddy telling him that he had been to school or to a place called Alice Springs. Mr Gunner also acknowledged that he was aware that families of other children, including tribal mothers, visited their children at St Mary's. The question of access to children was raised with Mr Johnny Skinner during his cross-examination. His evidence was quite important. He was asked whether he had ever visited Peter whilst he was at St Mary's. He said that he had seen him three times and that he had told the community back at Utopia that Peter, Florrie Ware and the Kunoth children were "good, happy". That answer came in response to a question "Did they complain about things at St Mary's?" The following passage, unclear though it is, points to Mr Skinner saying that the families of some children visited them at St Mary's but not the mothers of Peter Gunner and Florrie Ware: "MR MEAGHER: Yes. Did others go from Utopia to St Mary's to see the children? --- No, they not worry about them. THE INTERPRETER: They never worry about them. THE WITNESS: Only children's family, children – most of them come down here all the time. THE INTERPRETER: Most of them come down there all the time. MR MEAGHER: Yes. But no others? --- Not Peter Gunner mother, not mother Florrie Weir mother, they not come. THE INTERPRETER: Not Peter Gunner's mother or Florrie Weir's mother." 888 Under cross-examination, it became clear that Mr Skinner regarded western schooling as advantageous for Aboriginal children. He went so far as to say that, after the Second World War, people wanted their children to be educated. At that stage in his cross-examination, he was answering questions about St Mary's but, at the same time, he was giving information about Yulara College in his answers. At times it was not clear whether his answers related to one or the other or both institutions. However, it was clear that he was saying that, although Peter never returned to Utopia for holidays, other children from St Mary's did and that "them old people, they happy" about St Mary's. 889 Contrary to the views expressed by Mrs Kunoth-Monks, both Mr Kitching and Mrs McLeod said in their evidence that there was relatively easy access to Alice Springs for Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people who were living on Utopia Station. As Mr Kitching said: "There's (sic) be regular visits from the manager to the stores, and always they took some members of the workforce in with them. Also there was hospital, they might take someone in with them." 890 If this evidence was led for the purpose of establishing that Topsy was derelict in her duties as a mother – if it were to be suggested that there were means at her disposal to visit her son at St Mary's, I must reject such a proposition because, notwithstanding Mr Skinner's evidence, I would be descending to conjecture. I also reject the Commonwealth's suggestion that the failure of Topsy to make contact with Peter was indicative of a lack of interest in her child. There was no evidence that would justify such a finding. I have no way of knowing why Topsy did not visit him. Mr Skinner's evidence does not paint Topsy in a good light but I cannot be sure whether he was stating a fact or expressing an opinion. With Topsy unable to defend herself, I would need much stronger evidence before I made a finding that Topsy abandoned her child throughout his stay in St Mary's. 891 I am not prepared to make such an adverse finding against Topsy any more than I would be prepared to assume fault on the part of the Welfare Branch. Peter's failure to return home during school holidays was and is a mystery; he could have gone home; there was no reason to prevent him going home. There was no suggestion that some policy existed that prevented children returning home. Those who might have been able to explain why he did not go home are either dead or their memories have failed them – and neither party has been able to produce any documentary evidence that would shed any light on the matter. What is more, there was nothing in Mr Kitching's report that suggested that Peter had been abandoned by his mother. Indeed the fact that he made an issue about his promise that Peter would return home for holidays suggested that there was, at the least, a normal parental relationship. There was evidence that Topsy had rejected Peter as a small baby. However, I have no difficulty in allowing for the possibility that Topsy's earlier feelings of rejection (if they existed) could have been replaced over a period of years by feelings of maternal love and affection. Nor was there anything in Mr Kitching's reports that suggested that Peter was, in 1955 and 1956, neglected, in poor health or in need of care. Kevin Constable 892 Mr Kevin Constable was born on 1 April 1932; he was sixty-seven years of age at the time when he gave his evidence in these proceedings. After an apprenticeship, he worked for twelve years as an automotive engineer, during which time he took other studies and graduated as a member of the Cooking Federation of Australia. In his early working life, he had an involvement with the Church of England Boys' Society, eventually becoming Governor of the Northern New South Wales Section. Mr Constable said that he wanted to work as a missionary in Australia; when he saw an advertisement in an Anglican Newspaper for a position at St Mary's Hostel in Alice Springs, he applied and was successful in obtaining an appointment through the Australian Board of Missions. 893 Mr Constable arrived in St Mary's after Mr Bald left; it was Captain Steep's opinion that the boys "got on better with him than they did with Mr Bald" even though he lacked many of Mr Bald's bush skills. Captain Steep said that he never heard of any report about nor did he observe any sexual misconduct on Mr Constable's part. Captain Steep said that Mr Constable "was meticulous about" the boys' clothing to the point of hand washing their clothing with tank water to get the best results. 894 Mr Constable took up his appointment at St Mary's on 28 August 1958 for an initial term of two years. At his request, his appointment was renewed on two successive occasions in 1960 and 1962. At the time of Mr Constable's arrival at St Mary's, Archdeacon Bott was the Superintendent and Captain Colin Steep was the Warden. 895 Mr Constable married in 1968; his wife, Mrs Gwen McQuoid, had also been a missionary at St Mary's; she had arrived there some time in 1961, three years after Mr Constable. When Mrs McQuoid arrived at St Mary's, Mr Constable had twenty-six boys in his charge, ranging in age from three years through to fifteen or sixteen years; Ms McQuoid took over the care of about ten small boys from Mr Constable. According to Mr Constable, when he arrived at St Mary's, Mr and Mrs Hill were occupying the house known as the "Farmhouse" and they stayed until late 1962 or early 1963. Whilst they were at the Farmhouse, Mr and Mrs Hill had two or three of the older boys living with them; those boys used to help Mr Hill with the farm work. 896 Mrs Gwen Constable was called as a witness for the Commonwealth. She was the sister of the late Mrs Bott. In 1961, then a widow with an adult family, she came to St Mary's to do missionary work. She stayed three years, leaving in 1964. When Mrs Constable arrived at St Mary's, Mr and Mrs Bennier had already left and Mr Constable was, effectively, in charge; Archdeacon and Mrs Bott did not move from the town to St Mary's until about a year later. At the time of her arrival the children in her charge were in a dormitory but later, they moved into cottage accommodation. Mrs Constable testified that the children's beds were "good", she also said that the children had sufficient food. That later observation might, however, be disputed by hungry, young children. Mrs Constable said that she did not hear any of the children speaking in their native tongue. She said that the children were never prevented from going home during holidays. When she was asked "who decided which children got to go home for holidays" Mrs Constable gave a reply that was consistent with the evidence of many of the witnesses in this case: "Well, I think it was a case of who had homes, who had parents that wanted their children back home." 897 Mrs Constable was prepared to agree that the dormitory for the older boys and the showers and toilet were awful. She considered it a "blessing" when a wind storm blew down the old dormitory. Her evidence about conditions at St Mary's was, in my assessment of her, honest and straightforward. 898 Mrs Constable's evidence on the subject of corporal punishment was based on her attitude as a mother of five children. The relevant extract from her evidence was as follows: "If the children misbehaved what did you do by way of discipline, if anything? --- Well, one thing, I never ever hit them. One of the little boys said to me one day, 'You don't love me, do you?' and I said, 'I do, I love you all', and he said, 'Well, you never hit us'. So what did you do for punishment? --- Well, they were either sent to their room or something like that, but I never ever hit my own children so I don't believe in hitting anybody else's. Mm mm? --- But I loved them all, just the same. Did you ever see any other member of staff at St Mary's hitting another child? --- No, I didn't. No, if there was any discipline, I didn't see it. I know the men were strict with their – with their – I know Father was very strict with the – any of them if they were sent to him but I never ever saw that he was … . How do you know that he was strict? --- Well, he - he spoke that way. He was very – very English, you might say. Right? --- He did at one stage – I got him to come to one of my boys and he did hit him over the head, which I was very worried about, but that is the only time really that I could ever say. And did he hit him with his hand or with some … ? --- Just with his hand, mm mm." I accept what Mrs Constable said as her perception of what others might have done or as her memory of events of many years ago. I do not accept, however, that her perception or her memories were accurate. 899 Mr Gunner gave evidence of an incident involving Mr Constable at a time when he (Mr Gunner) had the mumps. He was confined to his bed in the dormitory. While he agreed that many of the boys had had the mumps, he said that he had caught them at a different time. Mr Gunner said that there were no other boys in the dormitory on the occasion when he was in bed with the mumps and Mr Constable tried to get into his bed. He alleged that Mr Constable came to his bed when he was asleep and "jumped in my bed". Asked what Mr Constable did when he got into the bed, Mr Gunner replied: "He was mucking around between my legs". 900 He said that he knew that Mr Constable had a hanky between his legs but that he did not know what he (Mr Constable) was doing "but I was very frightened". He went on to add: "All I recall he had a hanky between my legs and he was sort of rubbing his penis between my two legs." When asked in cross-examination to describe Mr Constable's conduct, Mr Gunner said that Mr Constable got into his bed and "started to do funny things, like taking his clothes off …". He had not previously mentioned that factor when giving his evidence in chief. 901 Mr Gunner could not state his age when Mr Constable molested him. The best he could say was that it was "a long time" after he arrived at St Mary's and that it would have been a few months after Mr Constable arrived there. Asked whether he had told his lawyers, when they were preparing his witness statement, that he was about nine years old when the first incident occurred, he agreed that he may have been that age. Neither during his evidence in chief nor in his cross-examination did Mr Gunner accuse Mr Constable of touching his penis. Yet in his witness statement at par 43, Mr Gunner had stated: "There were two times when Mr Constable touched and rubbed my penis." Asked whether he had told this to his lawyers Mr Gunner replied "I can't recall that". Under further questioning, he conceded that he could have told his lawyers that Mr Constable rubbed his penis on two occasions; it was then put to him that his memory was "very confused"; he replied: "You could describe it that way, but, to me, I don't think I'm confused." Mr Gunner said in his evidence in chief that Mr Constable threatened him not to tell any of the other children and, according to Mr Gunner, he never did tell any of the other children about Mr Constable's conduct. 902 On another occasion, Mr Gunner was ill as a result of accidentally drinking some battery acid. He explained that he thought it was water and, because he could not read, he did not realise what it was that he attempted to drink. After being treated at the local hospital, Peter was confined to bed in the dormitory. He said that he saw Mr Constable coming towards him and that he took fright, crying and scared. He said that Mr Constable tried to get into his bed and, so he said: "I jumped out of the bed and started just standing crying, so he gave me lollies and toys to keep me quiet before the kids came back from school." There was not, however, any physical contact between the two of them on that occasion. In cross-examination, Mr Gunner reaffirmed the evidence that he had given in his examination in chief when he said that, on the second occasion, Mr Constable did not touch him in any way. However, in his witness statement Mr Gunner had said: "During the second time he did the same thing, I yelled out to try and stop him and he gave me lollies afterwards to keep me quiet." He was asked: "Did you tell your solicitors that on the second occasion Mr Constable did the same thing as he had done on the first occasion?" His answer was: "I can't recall that either." 903 As I have already said, Mr Gunner's witness proof was not tendered in evidence, but the questions that related to its contents were put to Mr Gunner without objection and his answers were taken without objection. I have therefore proceeded upon the premise that the cross-examiner has correctly relayed the contents of his witness proof. The position became further confused when it was put to Mr Gunner that in par 43 of his witness statement it was written: "After the first time, he also flogged me." The cross-examiner asked Mr Gunner: "Did you tell your solicitors that after the first time Mr Constable flogged you? Mr Gunner could only say: "Well, I don't recall this – that either, same thing … I can't recall that either, whether Constable flogged me or – or whatever. I just can't recall." 904 It was Mr Gunner's evidence that prior to this litigation, he had never told anyone of the experiences that he suffered at the hands of Mr Constable. He said that he had only told his lawyers for the purpose of the litigation; he said that he had always been very shy. Asked how he felt about Mr Constable he said: "I had a lot of hatred for the man over the years for what he did." 905 Under cross-examination Mr Gunner reaffirmed that it was only Mr Constable who abused him sexually whilst he was at St Mary's. In the same passage of his cross-examination he also reaffirmed that it was only Mr Constable and Mr Bald who hit him whilst he was at St Mary's. It was obvious that Mr Gunner could not say anything good of Mr Constable. If indeed Mr Constable did sexually molest him in the manner that Mr Gunner described, such a reaction would be understandable. On the other hand, Mr Gunner's jaundiced attitude towards Mr Constable, coupled with the numerous inconsistencies in his evidence, meant that there was a risk that some of his evidence might be coloured; it is necessary to treat his statements on this very serious subject with caution. For example, he was asked: "When do you say you first became uncomfortable with Mr Constable? --- Since he been in that place. What, from the moment he arrived you were uncomfortable with him, were you? --- That's correct. Why was that? --- From that time he jumped in my bed and things like that, I always have been very scared of him. Well, was it when he first jumped in your bed or when [he] first arrived? When do you say your discomfort with him first started? --- When he arrived. Why were you uncomfortable when he first arrived? --- Always have picked on me. I'm sorry? --- He's always picked on me. What form did this picking on you take? --- Hitting me over a few things like eating food from my hand, wetting my bed. Hitting food from your hand? When was this? What sort of occasion? --- When he arrived. But why did you have food in your hands? --- I was used to eating with my hands when I was home. When did you - how long had you been at St Mary's before you learnt how to use a knife and fork? --- Took me a long time." The difficulty in accepting Mr Gunner's evidence on this subject is that I am satisfied that Mr Constable did not arrive at St Mary's until August 1958 more than two years after Mr Gunner. I find it difficult to accept that even a small child with a tribal background such as Mr Gunner's would not have learnt the basic use of a knife and fork in that period of time. 906 Mr Constable said in evidence that he remembered Peter Gunner. He described him as "a very quiet boy" who was a resident at St Mary's when he arrived. He said that Peter's health was very good but that his English was hard to understand. Mr Constable remembered that Peter was one of twenty-six boys who got the mumps. According to Mr Constable, all twenty-six boys were in bed and there was never an occasion during a period of two weeks while they were confined to bed when one boy was in the dormitory alone. In particular, Mr Constable denied that there was an occasion when Peter was alone in the dormitory in bed. Asked: "Did you at any time get into any boy's bed?" Mr Constable replied: "Absolutely not." The details of Mr Gunner's accusation were summarised for Mr Constable; he denied them and he denied that he had ever assaulted any boy in that fashion. 907 After questioning Mr Constable about the quality of the children's clothing, the following passage appeared in his evidence in chief: "In terms of personal hygiene, what arrangements were made in respect of the children? --- We ourselves, the staff, were responsible for it. Yes, and was there some daily process? --- Yes, there was. What was that? --- With the boys, the washing of their penis (sic) to remove the smegma." That was the end of the questioning in evidence in chief on the subject of smegma. The subject was, however, taken up in detail in cross-examination. Although the passage is lengthy it warrants being set out in full: "In evidence to this court, Mr Constable, I've read it to you but I want to take you back to it, page 3963, Mr Meagher asked you: In terms of personal hygiene what arrangements were made in respect of the children? --- We ourselves, the staff, were responsible for it. Yes, and was there some daily process? --- Yes, there was. What was that? --- With the boys the washing of their penis to remove the smegma. How did that daily process take place? --- Well, I did it in the shower. What was your personal involvement, your responsibility in relation to the process? --- Nothing, first off to show them how to do it and that was it. How did you show them how to do it? --- Showed them how to pull their foreskin back and clean it with the glycerine. How did you show that? --- By hand. By hand? --- Yes. Doing it on who? --- Well, the older boys. The little ones were all right. Just let me understand this, Mr Constable, you say that your responsibility in relation to this involved you in going to the younger boys, and the boys, pulling their foreskins back with glycerine? --- Not the younger boys. Not the younger boys? --- No, they were all right. The older boys? --- Yes. Adolescent. And what? --- When they reached their adolescent age. I see. And you would apply glycerine to their penises, would you? --- Yes. Why? --- To soften the smegma. To soften the smegma? --- The smegma, yes. Did you ever go to the hospital and ask the superintendent at the hospital about this smegma? --- No. Did you think that might have been a wise thing to do before you went around putting glycerine on boys' penises? --- No, I was aware of smegma. You were aware of smegma? --- Yes. Were you aware that smegma is a naturally occurring occurrence produced by glands to lubricate the end of the penis, the foreskin of the penis? --- Yes, yes. Yes. You were aware of that? --- Yes. Why did you remove it? --- You get a lot of adolescent boys in a room in the summer you would know why. I see. So that is your excuse, is it, for conducting yourself in a manner where you applied glycerine to the penises of boys under your care at St Mary's? --- Yes. I suggest to you that is entirely inappropriate behaviour? I put to you, Mr Constable, I'll put it quite fairly and squarely to you it's sexual misconduct of a very dangerous kind? --- I don't agree. It's totally inappropriate? --- I don't agree. And this was to boys, adolescent boys? --- Yes. Yes, done in the showers, was it? --- After they knew, yes. Glycerine? --- Mm mm. Why glycerine? --- To soften it. To soften it? --- Yes. And that was the prescription, was it? --- Well, that's what I was told, yes." 908 In my opinion, Mr Constable's conduct, as he himself described it, was grossly improper. I will however, defer my final conclusions about his conduct until after I have concluded my review of the evidence of the four former inmates of St Mary's. 909 Mr Gunner recalled the day that he left St Mary's; he said that Archdeacon Bott and Mr Constable got him ready with his little bag and he was told to wait because a person was coming to pick him up. The person arrived; he was a European, wearing a white shirt and driving a land rover. He took Peter to the Aboriginal Affairs Office in Hartley Street, Alice Springs. He said that he was told to wait in the waiting room and it was not until late in the day that the patrol officer said to him "we're now ready to go". According to Mr Gunner they left Alice Springs and travelled to Mt Ebenezer Station where his friend Colin Kunoth was working. They camped overnight at Mt Ebenezer and next morning they proceeded to Angas Downs where work had been arranged for him by the Welfare Branch. 910 Mr Gunner did not know the name of the patrol officer who took him to Angas Downs but he remembered that the person who ran Angas Downs was Arthur Liddle. Mr Liddle was married with three children but the children were away at school in Alice Springs, living in a boarding house called "Griffith House". Mrs Liddle's name was Bessie. According to Mr Gunner, another man, Barney, was also living at Angas Downs when he arrived there. Whilst he was at Angas Downs, Mr Gunner lived in the house with Arthur and Bessie Liddle. He said he was not paid wages but that the Liddles supplied him with clothes. Mr Gunner agreed that, whilst he was at Angas Downs, Mr Liddle not only taught him how to be a stockman but that he and Mrs Liddle treated Peter as part of their family. 911 In cross-examination Mr Gunner was asked whether he wanted to be a stockman; he answered "not really". That answer contradicted the statement in his witness proof where at par 55 he said: "At school I wanted to be a stockman because I'd seen that at Utopia." He said that he did not recall telling his solicitors that he wanted to be a stockman and he disagreed that, when he was at school, he wanted to be a stockman. 912 One of the documents from the files of the Welfare Branch dealt with the Branch's attempts to obtain work for Peter. It recorded that patrol officer Lennard had been unable to find employment for him but, at the Branch's request, Archdeacon Bott had agreed that Peter could return to St Mary's Hostel until Wednesday 19 December 1962. Although he was not certain, Mr Gunner agreed that he left school at the end of the 1962 school year. He also agreed that he left school when he was aged fourteen. There was a later entry in the Welfare's file that the Superintendent at St Mary's Hostel had advised that Peter was working on the farm at St Mary's, doing well and being paid Ł1 a week; that he was quite happy and that he could stay at St Mary's Hostel until the end of the school holidays. That information was put to Mr Gunner during the course of his cross-examination; he did not deny it, but said that he could not recall any of those events. He was then shown a copy of the notes of his interview with Miss A Malcolm on 12 December 1962; she was a welfare officer who was stationed at Alice Springs. According to Miss Malcolm's notes the purpose of the interview was to examine the chances of obtaining employment for Peter. The relevant entry was: "The Superintendent of St Mary's Hostel brought Peter into Alice Springs as patrol officer Lennard is endeavouring to find employment for him." At first, he said that he did not recall speaking to a female officer; then he positively asserted that he never spoke with her. There was then a further entry of February 1963 with a note that Peter was in the office seeking employment. That was put to Mr Gunner who disagreed, saying that it "didn't happen". That is a complete contradiction to what he had said in his third set of particulars. They contained an assertion that Mr Lennard took Peter to Angas Downs Station in or about February 1963. Earlier in his cross-examination Mr Gunner had said that he did not know the name of the patrol officer who had taken him to Angas Downs. When his further and better particulars were put to him, he said he did not know how his solicitors would have got Mr Lennard's name, adding: "Well, they didn't get it from me." 913 In the first set of particulars, Mr Gunner had claimed that he had been detained at Angas Downs Station for a period of approximately three years by persons whom he was unable to identify. However under cross-examination when asked whether there was some doubt in his mind as to who was looking after him at Angas Downs he replied: "I knew very well who was looking after me." He added that he did not recall telling his solicitors that he did not know the name of his minder. In the transcript of Mrs Mosely's interview of Mr Gunner, to which reference is made later in these reasons, one of the questions asked of him was the name of the owner of Angas Downs; according to the transcript, Mr Gunner replied "Arthur Liddle, he owned the place". 914 It was put to Mr Gunner, during the course of his cross-examination, that whilst he was working at Angas Downs, he went back to Utopia for a holiday. He denied that and there was no evidence to suggest that it happened. He said that he did not know where Utopia was; at that time he did not even know that he had come from Utopia. He said that while he was at Angas Downs the only place he visited was Alice Springs. 915 In the course of his evidence in chief, Mr Gunner's counsel read to him from patrol officer Lennard's report. The report related to Peter working on Angas Downs Station; it stated that Peter was "working well" and giving "every satisfaction"; it said that he was earning "Ł4 weekly plus keep and will soon be given an increase in wages". Mr Gunner denied this, saying that he never received Ł4 a week. 916 The circumstances under which Mr Gunner came to leave his employment at Angas Downs were difficult to understand. He said in answer to a question from his counsel: "I was taken from the property to Alice Springs, got into Alice. The next morning I was told by Old Arthur that I was free to go, I can do what I like, go out and look for another job." He did not explain why Mr Liddle dismissed him in such a cursory manner. There is nothing in the files of the Welfare Branch to explain such unexpected behaviour. Asked whether he had any money at that stage, he replied that he had "just a little bit" which he had got from Arthur when he was told that he could go. Mr Gunner said that a few days later he was at a rodeo at Alice Springs where he met someone who was able to arrange work for him at Killarney Station out of Katherine. He stayed at Killarney for about a year before returning to Alice Springs and getting work at Mt Ebenezer Station. That station was then operated by Ted Kunoth, a son of Trott and Amelia Kunoth. As with Angas Downs and Killarney, Mr Gunner did routine stock work at Mt Ebenezer Station, staying there from 1967 until early 1969. Mr Gunner said that while he was at Mt Ebenezer Station he attempted suicide by taking an overdose of some tablets that he found in a cupboard. He attempted suicide on a second occasion by trying to shoot himself. Asked why he did this, he answered: "I had a lot of worries about my mother." His counsel then asked him: "You had a lot of worries. Can you tell his Honour just what the worries were?" Mr Gunner's reply was as follows: "Bad things about St Mary's, about the Commonwealth and worries about my family." It is easy to understand that Mr Gunner might have had worries about St Mary's and about his family but it is not so easy to understand why he would have had worries or "bad things" about the Commonwealth. At that stage in his evidence he had not explained – nor did he explain thereafter – how he knew of any involvement of the Commonwealth in his life at that particular point of time. There was no independent evidence of his suicide attempts and his own evidence did not go into any great detail. However, they were not reasons for disbelieving this passage of his evidence. I am prepared to accept that he made two attempts at suicide, but I am unable to accept his statement that he then felt that the Commonwealth was in some way associated with or the cause of his attempts. I cannot say when Mr Gunner first became aware that the Commonwealth might have had something to do with his institutionalisation at St Mary's. If he had complained about "the Welfare" or about the patrol officers, that might have been acceptable. But he failed to explain that extra step that led him to refer to the "Commonwealth". Mr Gunner said that there was no one at Mt Ebenezer with whom he could talk; there was no one to whom he could turn for assistance. I can understand that. Mr Gunner is a quiet retiring person; in many respects he could be described as morose. He would not be the type of person who could strike up a friendship easily. 917 Mr Gunner visited Utopia with Teddy Nicka in 1969. At that stage he would have been about twenty years of age. The following passage from his examination in chief described Mr Gunner's return: "Who did you see when you went back to Utopia in 1969? --- That's when - first time I had the first look at my mother which I didn't recognise when I was a child; as I got older, I couldn't recognise her. Did you have any trouble recognising your mother? --- I had trouble, yeah. What happened when you went back with your family; what was the reaction? --- There was a - there was a big cries all over the camp that night. A lot of them came to me and said, we thought you was dead. How did you feel when you were back there? --- I think I cried with them. Were you able to talk to them? --- No. What was the position with the Aboriginal languages that you knew at the time you were taken from Utopia as a little boy? --- I completely lost that language." Mr Gunner only stayed overnight at Utopia on the occasion of that visit. He had to return because, so he said, Teddy had to return to work. Asked to explain how he felt about meeting up with his mother and his family he replied: "I found it very hard when I left Utopia that day. I could never speak that language to make her understand that – to tell her stories of where I was taken, where I was locked up. I could not tell her stories what had happened to me. It would have been good if she can understand where I was taken." Later he said: "I felt lost with a broken heart, that I was so sad that I – I could never – explain with her to tell her where I was taken away." That visit took place in 1969, at which point of time Mr Gunner was still working at Mt Ebenezer. After leaving Mt Ebenezer, he did stock work at another station, Numery. After Numery, he worked in the mines at Mt Isa, then for the City Council in Darwin before returning to the Alice Springs area and working on the bores at Henbury Station. 918 After his visit to Utopia with Teddy Nicka, Mr Gunner visited the Station on a second occasion with Florrie Ware. This occurred towards the end of 1969. According to Mr Gunner, Utopia was then owned by a Mr Jock Chalmers. Mr Gunner said that Mr Chalmers stopped him and Florrie and challenged their right to be on the property. They had to convince him that they had lived there as children and that they were visiting their family before he would permit them to proceed. Mr Gunner said that this left him "very angry being pulled up and not giving me the right to come back to my home to see my own mother". Mr Gunner's two visits to Utopia in 1969 and his evidence that, from that year, he knew the whereabouts of his family and, in particular, his mother, is to be compared with his witness statement where he said in par 64: "I worked on the property next door to Utopia in about 1978 - 1979 but I did not know where my family was. I did not seek them out because I was embarrassed that I could not speak the language and I was not part of their community. Also, at that time, I didn't realise that Utopia was my home place." When that passage was read out to him and he was asked to explain it, Mr Gunner said that he did not recall telling his solicitors that he did not know the whereabouts of his family in 1978 and 1979. I cannot accept that explanation. The passage from his statement is clear both as to the years and the locations. In some respects, allowance can be made for Mr Gunner being confused. It is not difficult to accept that his memory of the number of times that he ran away may be innocently muddled. However, on an issue that he has made so critical – the separation from his mother – to tell his solicitors that in 1978 he did not realise that Utopia was his home when he had twice visited it, albeit ten years earlier, branded him a very unreliable witness. 919 Mr Gunner married in 1971. His wife's name is Eunice: she is a member of the Walpiri people. They met at the Papunya Settlement where Mr Gunner was then working with the Aboriginal Work Force. They have no children, but Eunice has a daughter, Rebecca, from an earlier relationship. After his marriage, Mr Gunner continued to do stock work on various stations but, in about 1986, he commenced working as an Aboriginal Liaison Officer for the Aboriginal Legal Aid Service based at Alice Springs. His work entailed picking up clients and taking them to the courthouse and interpreting for them. It was put to Mr Gunner during the course of his cross-examination that he went back to Utopia in 1991 because he had lost his job with Legal Aid. He was asked in cross-examination whether or not he was "sacked" from his job to which he replied: "Well, I – I wouldn't say I was sacked from Legal Aid." He claimed that he resigned, that he was not asked to resign and he repeated in re‑examination, that he resigned of his own volition from the Aboriginal Legal Aid Service. That evidence was contradicted by Mrs Kunoth-Monks whose evidence I prefer over that of Mr Gunner's. When he finished working with the Aboriginal Legal Aid Service, he went to live permanently at Utopia. Since going back to Utopia, Mr Gunner said that he had engaged in some of the traditional activities such as hunting and collecting bush tucker. 920 Mr Gunner said that during the 1970s and the 1980s he had a drinking problem. However, he has overcome that; he has not drunk alcohol for the last twelve or so years. He now considers himself to be happy "back home out at Utopia". When Mr Gunner returned to live permanently at Utopia in the early 1990s, both his mother and his grandmother were alive but they are now both dead. 921 Mr Gunner said that he now speaks four Aboriginal languages but when asked whether he is able to converse in tribal languages to anyone at Utopia he replied: "Not the languages I am speaking, they don't understand what I am speaking about in Utopia." He explained that the languages that are spoken at Utopia are very difficult because of the "dialects and the language, it's a very hard language". 922 Mr Gunner said that he is excluded from tribal matters because he has not been "through the laws of the Aboriginal culture". During the course of his evidence in chief, Mr Gunner's counsel asked him whether he had been through "ceremony and initiation", Mr Gunner replied: "I didn't get that opportunity." He said that he feels "pretty angry" about not being able to attend meetings that deal with tribal matters; he said that he is deprived of any right or power over the land, that he cannot take part in any decision-making on anything to do with the land, that he is not permitted to discuss tribal laws, ceremonies, dreaming or songs. Asked why he had not been taught about the laws or the dreamings, Mr Gunner replied that he had not been "through the initiation ceremonies" and because he has not been through these ceremonies he is not permitted to go to any of the ceremonies. Asked why he does not now go through the law he replied: "I'm too old and married". His counsel then asked him: "How do you feel that you can't join in ceremony, that you haven't been initiated and that your too old?" Mr Gunner replied: "I get pretty angry when I'm not part of it." Mr Gunner told an entirely different and contradictory story under cross-examination. He acknowledged that when he went back to live in Utopia in 1991, he was welcomed by the traditional people who were friendly to him and made him feel at home; he was appointed Chairman of the Urapuntja Council shortly after he returned to Utopia, a position that he then held for about two and one half years. He said that he resigned, but that, at a later stage, he was appointed Chairman again and has held the position currently since 1996. His work as Chairman of the Council requires him to deal with Government departments on behalf of the Aboriginal community; he is involved in obtaining funding or grants for their benefit; he facilitates meetings of his people for the purpose of decision-making about issues that involve Government departments. Mr Gunner acknowledged that the position of Chairman takes up a great deal of his time and that he has found it a very stressful job. Indeed he has seen doctors about the stress that he feels as a result of his Chairmanship. It was put to Mr Gunner in cross-examination that he had said to his counsel, during his evidence in chief that, because he had not been initiated, he was treated differently by the members of his community. He was asked by the cross-examiner: "Is that a complaint that you have Mr Gunner?" Mr Gunner replied "no" and when the cross-examiner followed up with the next question: "You're treated the same as the people who've been initiated?" Mr Gunner replied "Yeah". Mr Gunner was asked whether he was aware that there had been a number of adults at Utopia, aged in their forties, who had been initiated. Initially he prevaricated, but when it was put to him positively that Ken Kunoth was one such person, he said that he accepted that Ken had been initiated as an adult. Ultimately, Mr Gunner did make a concession: "You see, what I want to suggest to you, Mr Gunner, is that the Utopia community is very accepting of people who wish to embrace their culture and their traditions. Do you accept that? --- Yeah, I accept that, yeah. And they will allow people to be initiated even when they are adults if they show interest in and respect for their traditions. Do you accept that? --- We always have respected their traditional cultural life. Do you feel isolated in any way at Utopia, Mr Gunner? --- No. And indeed your plans are to stay there for many years to come, aren't they? --- That's right. I'm home now and I'm planning to die there yes. And you don't have any fear that the people are going to throw you off the land? --- I don't have that fear." Asked by his counsel in re-examination why he had not done men's ceremony, Mr Gunner said, notwithstanding the concessions that he had made during his cross-examination: "I'm too old. I've been taken away and lost most of my life while I was taken away." 923 Mr Johnny Skinner was asked several questions about "men's law". He said that he knew that Mr Gunner had not gone through it; he also said that he knew that if Peter had stayed at Utopia, "they" would have made him a "young man". This evidence was a reference to Aboriginal initiation ceremonies, a subject that was not discussed in his evidence. The reference to "they" was a reference to the tribal elders. Mr Skinner rejected any suggestion that Mr Gunner was now debarred, because of age or marriage, from participating in initiation ceremonies. He agreed that Ken Kunoth had been initiated at the age of forty-five. He also identified some other Aboriginal men, who, as adults, had "given themselves up" to "men's ceremony". Asked whether Mr Gunner had to await an invitation (presumably from tribal elders) to undergo initiation, Mr Skinner replied that it was open to Mr Gunner to make a request that he be accepted for the ceremonies. 924 Mrs Kunoth-Monks said that her brother Ken, who had gone to St Mary's as a child, returned to live at Utopia as a man in his forties in 1993. He had earlier visited Utopia but he had not lived there since going to St Mary's. He is now a member of the traditional community, having been initiated in 1995. Another brother, Donny, has also returned to Utopia, but although he has been accepted as a traditional member of the community, he has not been initiated. Mrs Kunoth-Monks also mentioned other members of her extended family who, as adults, have been initiated. Despite what Mr Gunner said during the course of his evidence, I find that he was and is able to undergo the ceremonies, if that should be his wish, that would lead to his initiation and further acceptance into the tribal community. 925 Throughout his evidence, and particularly throughout his cross-examination, Mr Gunner showed signs of being quite obtuse. For example, he steadfastly maintained that he had no idea of his date of birth, claiming that he had never seen his birth certificate. Yet in his witness statement, he had said that, while he was unsure of his exact date of birth, he believed it to be in 1947. He added in his witness statement that another possible date was 19 September 1948. When this was put to him in cross-examination his reply was: "Well, that's – that's what the Government agreeing on. I didn't agree on that birth certificate; that's what the Government saying I was born in 1947 or 48 or 1950. See, if I say that to the court, I'm more or less giving evidence here that is the correct birth of my date." The best I could make of Mr Gunner's answer was that he was endeavouring to make sure that he did not mislead the Court into believing that he was aware of his exact birth date. Even so, it was an example of the many occasions when his evidence was highly confusing. On another occasion during his cross-examination, Mr Gunner was shown a photograph of some boys and girls dancing; an adult was in the middle of the photo. He was asked whether he recognised the adult. After quite a lengthy period of time he identified the adult as Mr Constable. The following exchange then took place: "Mr Gunner, I suggest to you that it took you a long time to identify this man as Mr Constable because you're not really sure what Mr Constable looked like; do you agree or disagree with that? --- I don't disagree with it, it's just that I never seen him dancing." 926 Although he steadfastly refused to concede that he was confused, it was clear to me that Mr Gunner was, in fact, confused over many of his childhood memories at St Mary's. I am quite sure that Mr Gunner was punished severely as a child whilst he was at St Mary's; whether the emotive word "flogging" was apt to describe the severity of the punishment is, however, another matter. Nevertheless, it is quite clear to me that Mr Gunner has built up in his mind over the years a feeling of antagonism towards St Mary's and towards many of the people who had charge of him while he was there. At one stage, when it was put to him in cross-examination that he was confused, he replied with strength and conviction: "No, I won't agree with it because I was flogged by that man, that kept in my memory for many, many years, and I don't think I'll ever forget that name." He was there referring to Mr Constable. That section of his evidence can be accepted even though Mr Gunner caused a furore when he identified another man as Mr Constable in a photograph that was tendered in Court. That photograph was subsequently published in the daily press naming an innocent person as the alleged perpetrator of sexual misconduct. 927 Another example of Mr Gunner's obtuseness occurred when he was questioned about his work with the Aboriginal Legal Aid Service. He was asked whether or not it was part of his duties to assist lawyers with obtaining statements from clients and witnesses. Rather than giving an outright answer to this question, he vacillated; first he said that "they" spoke openly to the lawyers without his assistance; then he said that it was not often that he was present with the client and the lawyers. He was then shown a statement of his duties. He acknowledged the document as a statement of his duties as a field officer and he agreed that the first of his duties was to: "Assist with obtaining statements from clients and witnesses including completing initial application forms for Legal Aid." The question was then put to him again: "It was a regular part of your job as a field officer to be involved in assisting and obtaining statements from clients and witnesses. Do you accept that?" His answer was quite exasperating: "In what way you referring to me about taking statement and – because my role wasn't to take statements. No, but you assisted the lawyers in taking statements, didn't you? --- I said earlier, at times I was present with the client. Most the time the clients would be on their own with the solicitors." Finally, this simple and uncontroversial issue was brought to an end with a further question and answer: "Let's just talk about those times when you were present with the solicitor and the client. I put it to you that it was part of your role to explain to the client who the solicitor was. Do you agree with that? --- Yes." 928 Other examples of contradictions in Mr Gunner's evidence related to Teddy Nicka and Colin Kunoth. In his examination in chief, he had said that Teddy Nicka was already at St Mary's when he arrived there; in his witness statement he said that Teddy Nicka arrived at St Mary's shortly after his arrival. Mr Gunner said that he never saw Colin Kunoth at Utopia when he was a child at Utopia. That statement is not easily reconcilable with his witness statement at par 40 where the following passage appears: "I escaped with Colin Kunoth. He was one of the boys living in the dormitory with me. We tried to find Utopia but we went the wrong way and after a while the police caught up with us." Saying that "we tried to find Utopia" suggested that Colin Kunoth, who was the same age as Peter, also came from Utopia. Further on in his witness statement he talked of the second occasion when he tried to run away: "I tried to run away with Colin Kunoth a second time. We tried to find Utopia but again, we went the wrong way." It was therefore put to him that he ran away with Colin Kunoth because they both wanted to go back to Utopia. However Mr Gunner said: "I won't accept that because Colin Kunoth did not come from Utopia." When pressed further however Mr Gunner conceded that Colin Kunoth came from Delny and he conceded that Delny was only a "few miles" from Utopia. 929 Mr Gunner was asked in cross-examination whether he had ever heard allegations that his father was Sid Kunoth. It was clear from Mr Gunner's answers that he was aware of this rumour, but he described it as a "misunderstanding". He was then asked: "… do you believe that he's your father or not, your natural biological father?" Mr Gunner replied: "Well, over the – over the years, I – I have been told by many people that they think that he – he was my father, but to my doubts I have kept myself and I didn't sort of rush into and claim someone. So you have doubts about whether he's your father? --- Yes. The reason why I ask this Mr Gunner, is that your barrister, Mr Rush, opened this case – and I am referring your Honour to page 185 of the March transcript – saying as follows: 'Your Honour will hear evidence in this case, anthropological evidence going to the families and the culture of both Lorna Cubillo and Peter Gunner. The evidence will be that Peter Gunner's father was Sid Kunoth…'." 930 Another area of contradiction in Mr Gunner's evidence and his witness statement related to his mother working for the McLeods at the homestead. In his cross-examination he said that he had no knowledge of his mother working for Mrs McLeod in the station homestead but in his witness statement at par 9 he had written: "My mum worked for McLeod at the homestead." 931 Mr Gunner agreed that, subject to obtaining permission from a member of the staff, the children at St Mary's were free to go off exploring the grounds during the weekends. He said that they looked for birds and he agreed that they were allowed to look for bush tucker. It was then put to him that in his witness statement it was recorded in par 32: "We were forbidden to go out looking for bush tucker." He agreed that he had made that statement to his lawyers. He was then asked: "Were you confused when you told your lawyers that you were forbidden to go out looking for bush tucker? Were you confused about whether you were or weren't allowed to go out or are you confused today here in court?" Mr Gunner replied: "I am a bit confused in the court, yes, because we always had permission." 932 Mr Gunner complained that when he was first at St Mary's he was not given shoes and socks to wear even though he acknowledged in cross-examination that he had never worn shoes or socks before coming to St Mary's. Later in his cross-examination, Mr Gunner said that there were rules at St Mary's that "your school clothes got to come off, the shoes got to come off" suggesting that when the children came home from school they took their shoes off – not because they wanted to but because they were told to. Either way, it seems common ground that it was the usual practice for the children to roam about barefooted after school hours. 933 Captain Steep, like other witnesses, said that the children would take off their shoes as soon as they got home from school. He also said that the children were all equipped with new clothing: "we never ever got second hand clothes from anywhere". He conceded that the Hostel faced great difficulties in the laundry and the ablutions because it had to rely on bore water which was very "hard". For example, in the laundry, water had to be boiled with washing soda which would result in what Captain Steep described as a "rusty scum". That then had to be skimmed off the top before the clothes could be washed. I accept Captain Steep's evidence about such matters; they indicated the difficulties that were faced by people in the outback in the 1950s. Those conditions would be unacceptable today but in those days they were common place. Even Mrs Ballagh, in her report to the Director of Welfare dated 18 July 1956 was relatively complementary about the quality and the cleanliness of the clothing, laundry, bathrooms and showers. Later, the Hostel obtained a water softener and, as Captain Steep said, that changed everything "dramatically". 934 I am satisfied that Mr Gunner was extremely upset on the occasion when he was taken, as a small child, from his community at Utopia Station. I am not satisfied that his memory is reliable nor am I satisfied that I can rely on the evidence from Mrs McLeod. Accepting, as I do, that Mr Gunner was very distressed, the probabilities are, more likely than not, that his mother did not accompany him on the trip from Utopia to Alice Springs. That pointed to Mr Kitching being the "white fella" who drove Peter away. On the other hand, the relative lack of action by his mother and his mother's sisters at the time of his taking served as some pointer to their understanding and, perhaps, cooperation in having the small child removed – even though it was against his personal wishes. Mr Kitching's poor memory, Mrs McLeod's contradictory statements and Mr Gunner's state of confusion, does not permit any more positive findings to be made save to find, as I do, that Mr Gunner has failed to establish to my satisfaction he was removed from Utopia Station against the will of his mother. 935 Mr Gunner was shown a copy of a document entitled "Register of Births". It recorded his name and his date and place of birth. It was put to him that the person named under the heading "Person Furnishing Particulars", Topsy Kundrilba, was his mother. He denied it, claiming that he did not "recall those names". It was then put to him: "Are you aware that your solicitors have agreed with the Commonwealth solicitors that one of the names by which your mother was known is the name that is set out here?" He answered: "Well, I disagree." The cross-examiner persisted: "So you think your solicitors have got it wrong? --- Whether they got it wrong or what, but I disagree." This was an example of the unreasoning and unreasonable stubbornness that Mr Gunner displayed from time to time. 936 There were other times when he engaged in open confrontation with the cross-examiner for no apparent reason. Although he did not know at the time, Mr Gunner acknowledged that he found out in later years that Alan Kunoth worked as a shearer for much of his life. He said that he did not know, however, that in between shearing jobs Alan often returned with his family to Utopia Station. Mr Gunner would not agree that Alan Kunoth was part Aboriginal and he said that he did not know that Alan's wife, Ruby, was a full blood woman. His answer was quite irrational: "She may've been or it's just something that – I'm not here to judge other people where they come from or - I was just a kid fighting my own way and - and problems that I had, what the Government did to me anyway, so I'm not here to look at other people history." 937 Mr Gunner agreed in cross-examination that he knew that Alan Kunoth had a second wife, a woman called Elsie. He also knew that Alan Kunoth was the brother of Ted Kunoth, the man who had managed Mt Ebenezer Station during part of the time that Mr Gunner was at Angas Downs. Mr Gunner denied that, at the time when he was working for Ted Kunoth at Mt Ebenezer Station, he knew that the Kunoth family had come from the Utopia area. Sid Kunoth, who according to Mr Rush's opening, was said to be the father of Peter Gunner, was also a brother of Ted and Alan Kunoth. 938 Time and time again Mr Gunner reacted with suspicion to questions that were asked of him in cross-examination. Simple questions that were capable of simple answers were converted into confused ramblings. For example, it was put to him, and he agreed, that he visited Utopia and his mother on two occasions in 1969, first with Teddy Nicka and later with Barbara Weir. It was then put to him: "You knew as a result of your visits with Teddy and Barbara in 1969, you knew where your mother and your family lived, didn't you?" Clearly his answer should have been "Yes" but Mr Gunner, ever suspicious of some unknown trap replied: "No". The cross-examiner pursued the matter: "How's that Mr Gunner? --- You'd been back to visit two times in one year, how do you say you didn't know where your mother lived?" Mr Gunner's answer showed the suspicion and defensiveness that he adopted: "I thought you were putting it – I thought you were just putting to me another way. After those visits yes." Making every allowance for Mr Gunner's personal background, including the limited extent of his education, there was no way that he could have misunderstood the nature of the question that was asked of him. 939 Mr Gunner agreed that he had told Mrs Eileen Mosely that his mother wanted to kill him when he was a baby. His conversation with Mrs Mosely, which occurred while he was working for the Aboriginal Legal Aid Service, and long before he had seen lawyers in relation to his present Court case, took place at Mrs Mosely's home; Mrs Mosely recorded their discussion. Mr Gunner volunteered that he told Mrs Mosely that he was left on an anthill by his mother. Asked whether he believed that he was telling Mrs Mosely the truth about his mother trying to kill him Mr Gunner answered: "When I was telling Mrs Mosely at that time about the mother and the ant hills I believed that I was telling Mrs Mosely what happened because my own cousin Barbara Weir actually the one that told me about the ants' nest, so that's why I was telling Mrs Mosely, right." Asked when Barbara Ware had given him this information Mr Gunner replied: "It was long before the interview with this Mosely woman." He then added it was long before he ever worked for the Aboriginal Legal Aid Service. Mr Gunner acknowledged that Barbara Ware was still alive, living in Adelaide. 940 Mr Gunner's evidence that his mother put him on an anthill cannot be accepted as the truth of such an event. He was only recounting what Barbara Ware had told him and there was no evidence that explained what she knew or how she acquired her knowledge. On the other hand, Mr Gunner's evidence was direct evidence that he has had a belief for many years that his mother tried to kill him when he was a baby. Mrs Mosely produced the tape recording of her conversation with Mr Gunner under subpoena and the tape was played to Mr Gunner during the course of his cross-examination. There were several contradictions in small areas between what Mr Gunner said to Mrs Mosely and what he had said in his evidence. One example was that he told Mrs Mosely that he went to school whilst he was at the Bungalow, whereas in evidence, he said that he did not go to school at that time. In another example of a small contradiction, Mr Gunner said in his interview with Mrs Mosely that some of the Aboriginal people followed the truck to the gate at the time when he was taken away, whereas in his evidence he said he had no recollection of people following the truck at all. When the contradictory answers were put to him, he insisted that the correct answer was that which he had earlier given in Court to the effect that "the people weren't chasing the truck". Evidence of Sexual Impropriety 941 Four men, who as small boys had been inmates of St Mary's Hostel at the same time as Mr Gunner, gave evidence of incidents of sexual impropriety. Their evidence related to their experiences whilst at St Mary's and to their accusations that they had been sexually molested by a male member of St Mary's staff. The Commonwealth opposed the receipt of that evidence. After hearing argument, I ruled against the Commonwealth's submissions and delivered some incomplete ex tempore reasons. I now set out my reasons in detail. 942 By letter dated 16 August 1999, the solicitors for Mr Gunner wrote the solicitors for the Commonwealth giving notice under s 97 of the Evidence Act 1995 (Cth) ("the Evidence Act") of the applicant's intention to adduce evidence from three former inmates of St Mary's Hostel concerning acts of sexual assault allegedly committed by Mr Kevin Constable. The intended witnesses were Daniel Forrester, Stanley Scrutton and a third person named GK (whose name was suppressed from publication). In fact, as events transpired, another former inmate, Wally Gardiner was also advanced by the applicant as a fourth proposed witness. His evidence was, however, intended to relate to alleged acts of sexual assault by another missionary, Mr Malcolm Bald. In brief, the proposed evidence under s 97 would go to the issue whether Mr Constable sexually abused, or had a tendency to abuse sexually, young boys who were under his care whilst resident at St Mary's Hostel. The letter identified by name, the three proposed witnesses and contained a brief outline of the evidence that each would give. The solicitors for the Commonwealth responded, drawing attention to reg 6 of the Evidence Regulations 1995 (Cth), seeking the supply of the information that is required by that regulation. Subregulation 6(2) provides: "(2) A notice given under subsection 97(1) of the Act (relating to the 'tendency' rule) must state: (a) the substance of the evidence of the kind referred to in that subsection that the party giving the notice intends to adduce; and (b) if that evidence consists of, or includes, evidence of the conduct of a person, particulars of: (i) the date, time, place and circumstances at or in which the conduct occurred; and (ii) the names and addresses of each person who saw, heard or otherwise perceived the conduct; and (iii) in a civil proceeding – the address of each person so named; so far as they are known to the notifying party." 943 The letter from Mr Gunner's solicitors had addressed the issues that are referred to in par 6(2)(a) but it was deficient with respect to the requirements of par 6(2)(b). By letter dated 24 August 1999, written in response to the undated letter from the Commonwealth's solicitor, Mr Gunner's solicitors supplied additional information that was directed towards satisfying the requirements of par 6(2)(b) of the Evidence Regulations. 944 In the case of the third of the proposed witnesses (that is, the person whom I have referred to as GK) the substance of the evidence that the witness would purportedly give was, in my opinion, lacking in particularity as to the time and regularity of the incidents. The relevant passage from the solicitor's letter was as follows: "The substance of GK's evidence will be that he was sexually abused by Mr Constable, commencing soon after Mr Constable's arrival at St Mary's Hostel and continuing until GK left St Mary's. The abuse consisted mainly of Mr Constable coming to GK's bed during the night and touching him in a sexual manner. The conduct took place over a 3 to 4 year period, commencing in about 1959 and continuing until about 1963. It occurred at night, at first in the boys' dormitory and later in the cottage." 945 Subsection 97(1) of the Evidence Act provides as follows: "Evidence of the character, reputation or conduct of a person, or a tendency that a person has or had, is not admissible to prove that a person has or had a tendency (whether because of the person's character or otherwise) to act in a particular way, or to have a particular state of mind, if: (a) the party adducing the evidence has not given reasonable notice in writing to each other party of the party's intention to adduce the evidence; or (b) the court thinks that the evidence would not, either by itself or having regard to other evidence adduced or to be adduced by the party seeking to adduce the evidence, have significant probative value." In terms of par 97(1)(b) I formed the tentative opinion, notwithstanding its inadequate particularity, that the evidence of GK would, both by itself and by having regard to other evidence to be adduced by Mr Gunner, have significant probative value. I am now satisfied that it was appropriate to receive the evidence of GK as relevant evidence but, for the reasons that are set out later in these reasons, I have come to the conclusion that it would not be safe to rely on it in most areas. 946 Before turning to consider the proposed evidence of the other three witnesses, it is necessary to refer to the position concerning a fifth boy. The letter from Mr Gunner's solicitors to the solicitor for the Commonwealth dated 16 August 1999 concluded with this sentence: "You should note that the Applicants will also rely on pages 215 to 238 of the Gunner Supplementary Court Book Vol 2 as tendency evidence in relation to Mr Constable." Pages 215 to 238 contained copies of an information and the transcript of proceedings in the Alice Springs Magistrate's Court in which Mr Constable was charged with, but acquitted of, a sexual assault on an inmate of St Mary's Hostel in August 1964. That alleged incident would have taken place about eighteen months after Mr Gunner left St Mary's. The evidence of the fifth boy was that Mr Constable rubbed the boy's penis until he ejaculated. Mr Constable, who gave evidence in the Magistrate's Court, said that the boy was difficult and lacked "hygiene habits". He said in his evidence in that trial that the boy was not circumcised and this fact, coupled with his lack of hygiene, was the reason why Mr Constable found it necessary to apply glycerine to the boy's penis. Mr Constable agreed, whilst giving evidence in his trial, that the boy ejaculated but claimed that this only occurred because of his administration and massaging of the glycerine; he said that "he had a very slight emission". The magistrate who heard the charge did not give reasons other than to note (p 238): "I accept defendant's evidence in this case. I find him not guilty and discharge him." 947 It is not without interest to note the speed with which those proceedings were dispatched. The incident allegedly occurred on 14 August 1964; the case was heard and disposed of six days later on 20 August 1964. The transcript of evidence was 16 pages. 948 On 24 August 1964, Archdeacon Bott, who was then the Superintendent of St Mary's, wrote the Director of Welfare giving his support to Mr Constable and informing the Director that Mr Constable would be retained on the staff at St Mary's. In part, Archdeacon Bott's letter said: "(2) in acquitting Mr. Constable, the Magistrate, in fact, stated that he had no doubt whatever that Mr. Constable was blameless and was simply the victim of an exceedingly unfortunate circumstance. The Magistrate both expressed his sympathy towards Mr. Constable and gave him encouragement in open court; (3) the Magistrate's decision was based, not on a legal technicality, but on a finding of fact. It is further clear from his remarks that the Magistrate did not simply give Mr. Constable the benefit of the doubt, but was, in fact, convinced of his innocence;" That passage fleshed out the brief notation that was made by the magistrate: "I accept defendant's evidence". It was not a case of the prosecution failing to satisfy the onus of proof – it was a positive finding of innocence. That, in itself, would not be grounds for refusing to receive evidence in this case about the incident if it were proposed to adduce evidence through the complainant; but that was not the case. The applicant merely wished to tender the documents that I have identified. In my opinion that evidence would have no probative value at all. It would have been highly prejudicial – the more so because the complainant, the fifth boy, would not be presented for cross-examination. 949 Notwithstanding his acquittal and Archdeacon Bott's support for him, Mr Worthy said that the Welfare Branch remained concerned about Mr Constable remaining on the staff of St Mary's. The situation was ultimately resolved when Archdeacon Bott advised the Branch that Mr Constable was about to take leave and that he would, whilst on leave, tender his resignation. 950 In Jacara Pty Ltd v Auto-Bake Pty Ltd [1999] FCA 417 Sundberg J said that, in his opinion, s 97 applied to civil and criminal cases and that, as a result, the distinction that previously existed has been displaced. I respectfully agree. In the first place, s 97 makes no attempt to draw a distinction – a factor that, in itself, would hardly be conclusive. But, there is more. The heading that precedes s 101 (which, with s 97, is included in Part 3.6 of the Evidence Act – Tendency and Coincidence) is entitled: "Further restrictions on tendency evidence and coincidence evidence adduced by prosecution." Subsection (1) of s 101 then proceeds to state: "This section only applies in a criminal proceeding and so applies in addition to sections 97 and 98." The clear inference that is to be drawn from the language of the subsection (and in particular, its use of the expression "in addition to") can only be that, whilst s 97 has an equal application to civil and criminal cases, there is, in a criminal case, the additional requirements of s 101. 951 The Commonwealth challenged the admissibility of the proposed evidence of all five witnesses on two grounds. In addition to submitting that it did not satisfy s 97 of the Evidence Act, it also claimed that the evidence would, if admitted, lack relevance. 952 Subsection 55(1) of the Evidence Act reads as follows: "The evidence that is relevant in a proceeding is evidence that, if it were accepted, could rationally affect (directly or indirectly) the assessment of the probability of the existence of a fact in issue in the proceeding." 953 The general prohibition upon calling evidence of similar facts is "to contain trials within manageable limits, and to avoid the trial of collateral issues, ie issues which are not facts in issue or relevant to facts in issue": Cross on Evidence at [21280]. In this case, Mr Gunner has sought to put in issue the failure of the Commonwealth to supervise properly the manner in which staff of St Mary's Hostel cared for the children who had been placed under its supervision. The evidence of the proposed witnesses, as I understood the submissions of counsel for the applicant, were to be directed to that very matter. 954 Thus in pars 57B and 57C of his further amended statement of claim, Mr Gunner had alleged the existence of a fiduciary relationship between him and the Commonwealth and that one of the duties that was imposed on the Commonwealth was: "… to properly supervise any institution or person into whose care the Applicant was placed … " 955 If one assumes, for the purpose of this limited issue, that such a relationship existed and that such a duty was an integral part of that relationship, it stands to reason, in my opinion, that the applicant must be entitled to lead evidence that would, if established, show that the Commonwealth failed to supervise St Mary's Hostel in an adequate fashion. Evidence that a member of the staff of an institution behaved towards some of the children in an unacceptable manner could, conceivably, establish a breach of such a duty. For those reasons, the intended evidence was, in my opinion, relevant to a fact in issue. Subsection 55(1) of the Evidence Act would not apply to render it inadmissible. I came to that conclusion because of the nature of the case that Mr Gunner had mounted. His case, broadly speaking, included the allegation that, whilst he was resident at St Mary's Hostel, he was ill-treated. He had not instituted proceedings against Mr Constable, alleging assault; he had not even instituted proceedings against Mr Constable's employer, the Australian Board of Missions – the body responsible for the operations of the Hostel. The case that Mr Gunner wished to pursue included matters of ill-treatment such as unnecessarily cruel beatings and sexual molestation by a member of the staff of the Hostel. It seemed to me, therefore, that in those circumstances, it was appropriate to receive evidence from other inmates that would or might corroborate allegations of unnecessarily cruel beatings and, in that particular context, it was also appropriate to receive evidence from others that would or might corroborate the allegations of sexual misbehaviour. 956 I return to the provisions of s 97 and the tendency rule. Subsection (1) of that section refers to evidence of "the character, reputation or conduct of a person". It is not limited, in its operation to evidence of "the character, reputation or conduct" of a litigant. Hence the fact that Mr Gunner chose not to include Mr Constable as a respondent to the proceedings was no bar to the operation of the prohibitions in the subsection. Although I believed that the notices, as ultimately given by the applicant, were sufficient and although I was not of the opinion that the evidence to be adduced would not have significant probative value, the Commonwealth maintained that the decision in Hoch v The Queen (1988) 165 CLR 292 ("Hoch") meant that the evidence should not be received. 957 In Hoch, the appellant, a student teacher, was employed part-time as a recreation officer at a home for young boys. Three boys accused him of sexually molesting them. It was submitted on behalf of the applicant that there was a real chance that the three boys had put their heads together to concoct the allegations that they had made and that the existence of that possibility made the evidence of similar facts inadmissible. It was not submitted that the evidence of the boys lacked "striking similarity"; on the contrary, it was submitted that the similarity of the evidence might be accounted for by their conspiracy. The trial judge did not conduct a voir dire hearing; he did not, therefore, decide, for the purpose of determining admissibility, whether there was a possibility of a conspiracy among the boys to concoct their allegations. The High Court held that that omission was sufficient to constitute an error in the conduct of the trial; the conviction was set aside. The decision in Hoch came about because no appropriate inquiry into the possibility of a conspiracy was made before the case went to the jury. There is nothing inherently wrong in receiving similar fact evidence from young boys about sexual misconduct if all the safeguards are properly in place. But in Hoch Mason CJ, Wilson and Gaudron JJ at 296 allowed for the possibility of concoction – it was not necessary that there be the probability or the real chance of concoction. On the other hand, Brennan and Dawson JJ in their joint judgment at 304 required a higher standard; they said that there were circumstances of association between the three boys "which plainly raised the question whether there was a real chance that they had put their heads together to concoct their allegations". 958 The Commonwealth sought to use Hoch to prevent the Court hearing the evidence of Mr Gunner's co-complainants. That was not the correct approach. To argue that the Court should not receive the evidence because of the risk of concoction was to miss the point of the decision in Hoch. At the time when the Commonwealth made its submissions there was no evidence before the Court from any of the complainants; depositions or witness proofs had not even been handed up. The correct approach in a criminal trial is for the judge, in the absence of the jury, to hear the evidence so that he or she may decide whether the possibility of concoction exists. In a civil trial that means, as a matter of reality, that the evidence should be received de bene esse and that the judge should thereafter rule on its admissibility. 959 On 5 October 1999, during the course of the trial, I delivered ex tempore reasons explaining why I considered that the evidence of the co-complainants was admissible. Because of my concerns at the time about the possible application of Hoch, I did not rely on the principle of "tendency evidence" and s 97 of the Evidence Act. Having reflected on the matter, I have come to the conclusion that the decision in Hoch was not an impediment to a judge sitting alone in a civil trial. The warning against concoction that was sounded by the High Court cannot be overlooked. But a mere assertion from the Bar table that there was a risk of concoction was not sufficient to prevent the receipt of the evidence. The evidence of Messrs Forrester, Scrutton, Gardiner and GK was admissible once I concluded, as I subsequently, did, that there was no possibility of concoction. However, I was only able to come to that conclusion after I had heard all their evidence. The weight to be attached to it was, of course, another matter. 960 It was clear on the evidence that Mr Gunner and his four witnesses were inmates of St Mary's at the same time. As Mr Constable arrived at St Mary's on 28 August 1958, they were, with the possible exception of Mr Gardiner, at St Mary's while Mr Constable was there. Mr Gardiner did not make a complaint about Mr Constable's conduct. If Mr Gunner's evidence is accepted, he was accosted by Mr Constable a few months after Mr Constable's arrival – say, in late 1958. Mr Forrester said that Mr Constable assaulted him about twelve months after Mr Constable's arrival – say, in mid 1959. Based on Mr Scrutton's evidence, Mr Constable's attack on him would have taken place in early 1962. The evidence of GK was to the effect that Mr Constable assaulted him within six months of Mr Constable arriving at St Mary's. That would place the assault as having occurred in early 1959. But, GK, unlike the others, said that thereafter the assaults occurred "a few times a week". GK also made a "last minute" accusation against Mr Bald in the latter stages of his cross-examination. Mr Gardiner, the last of the witnesses, complained only about Mr Bald. Mr Bald arrived at St Mary's in about November 1956. His date of departure was not disclosed in evidence but he was not there in August 1958 when Mr Constable arrived. The date when Mr Gardiner left St Mary's is not known either. His name appears in St Mary's 1957 list but not in any later ones. He might even have left St Mary's before Mr Constable arrived. 961 In the sense that all five complainants were resident at St Mary's at the same time, it could be said that they had the opportunity to concoct their stories. In addition, there was some slight evidence of association after they left St Mary's. For example, Mr Gunner and GK worked on the same property for a time, but that was thirty five-years ago. There has also been an association between Mr Gunner and Mr Forrester when they worked together in the Central Australian Aboriginal Legal Aid Service. Messrs Forrester and Scrutton met and talked about the case a few days before they gave evidence. But a common thread was missing. I do not suggest that there need be evidence pointing to a meeting between all five but there should be, at the least, some evidence that would invite a court to follow a trail linking the five witnesses by some means, even though the link might be tenuous. In my opinion, there was no such trail. Mr Gunner, for example, said that he had never spoken to Daniel Forrester nor to Stanley Scrutton nor to the witness GK about his times at St Mary's. I believe him. The evidence of each witness suffered for various reasons. It might be said, of one or two of them, that they were motivated by greed; it can be said that each of them proved to be an unsatisfactory witness in some respects. Yet there was nothing about their evidence that gave me a feeling of unease that there was a possibility of a concoction. In fact, the unsatisfactory nature of the details of their evidence went a long way towards dispelling the idea of a conspiracy. It was for these reasons that I came to the conclusion that the evidence of Mr Gunner's four witnesses concerning their allegations of sexual impropriety by members of the staff at St Mary's was admissible. 962 Mr Forrester had worked for eight years as a field officer with the Central Australian Aboriginal Legal Aid Service. During part of that time, he worked with Mr Gunner who was his senior field officer. He said that he did not consider Mr Gunner to be strong at clerical work and he also said that, as a school boy at St Mary's, Mr Gunner had been placed in an opportunity class for boys who were backward. During the course of his examination in chief, Mr Forrester referred to Mr Gunner with obvious affection as his "brother". That was the first subject of his cross-examination and, curiously, when it was put to him that he and Mr Gunner were "close friends", he would not agree. 963 As a small boy, Mr Forrester, who is a few years older than Mr Gunner, was an inmate of St Mary's Hostel. Sister Eileen Heath was in charge at St Mary's when he first went there. He volunteered, during the course of his evidence in chief, that he was placed in St Mary's at the instigation of his mother. He was asked: "Do you recall any contact with patrol officers from the Welfare Branch in those early days of your life? The question did not necessarily bear any relationship to St Mary's. Nevertheless Mr Forrester replied: "Not in my own lifetime, but I did see them on other occasions where the rest of my family was hidden away by family members till my old mum got the gumption to put us up into St Mary's." Asked to explain what he meant by his reference to family members being hidden away, he explained that he and his brothers "used to run away until my mother was motivated by her brother to put us into school". Contrary to the experience suffered by Mr Gunner, Mr Forrester acknowledged that he was able to go home during school holidays. 964 Asked to describe the method of punishment that was administered to boys at St Mary's, Mr Forrester said that it was given "either with a strap, stick". He did not, however, suggest that the punishment was excessive or unwarranted. When asked "how often was punishment like that inflicted" his reply was "often enough when somebody did something wrong", but he did not claim, for example, that a child was punished for wetting his bed. He was asked to describe what would happen in such an event and he responded by saying that the child would be required to strip his bed and carry his mattress outside into the sun. Asked whether he made any observations of punishment of boys who wet their beds he said: "well, I seen a couple of boys get their noses rubbed into the pissy mattress". When asked to identify who had done that, he said that he could only recall one female staff member as having done it. Disgusting though such conduct would be, there might be some who would think it preferable to corporal punishment. In any event, the point of significance is that Mr Forrester did not suggest that corporal punishment was administered for bed wetting. 965 Mr Forrester accused Mr Constable of sexually molesting him. He said that one day he had complained to Mr Constable that he "had a sore on [his] leg" and a lump under his arm. According to Mr Forrester Mr Constable had said: "The lump under your arm is caused by your need to clean your penis." Mr Forrester said that later that night, after he had gone to bed, he was half-awake when he realised that Mr Constable had come to his bed in the dormitory. The lights were out and Mr Constable was carrying a torch and a dish. According to Mr Forrester, he said to Mr Constable: "What do you want?" He said that Mr Constable replied: "I've come to wash your penis." Mr Forrester then said that Mr Constable "grabbed" hold of his penis but that he, Mr Forrester, brushed him off and punched the dish away. According to Mr Forrester, he would have been about twelve or thirteen years of age when this alleged assault took place. He thought Mr Constable had been at St Mary's approximately twelve months when the incident occurred. Mr Forrester acknowledged that he did not make any complaint to any person about this incident. It was put to Mr Forrester in cross-examination that he was lying about Mr Constable; he denied this. In re-examination, Mr Forrester agreed that he had seen solicitors on 18 January 1998 and had given them a statement in which he made allegations concerning the conduct of Mr Constable. I reject any suggestion that Mr Forrester's evidence about Mr Constable was a matter of recent invention. When asked to state when he first disclosed details of Mr Constable having assaulted him, Mr Forrester replied that he first told his story to "the Stolen Generation people". Asked to identify the people by name, he said that one was his wife; he mentioned two ladies and then he volunteered that another was Stanley Scrutton. He was asked "you've discussed it with him have you?" and Mr Forrester replied: "Well, he had a similar case." Their discussion, according to Mr Forrester, took place only two days prior to Mr Forrester giving his evidence. Mr Scrutton, who was the next witness for the applicant, was asked whether he had discussed the same subject with Mr Forrester; he steadfastly denied any such discussion; I do not believe Mr Scrutton was telling me the truth. 966 Mr Forrester also made accusations about the conduct of Mr Malcolm Bald. Asked to describe Mr Bald's conduct Mr Forrester said: "He jumped into bed and started tickling me under the arm and rubbing his beard up against my face and chest and he had an erection." He claimed that he was frightened, that he jumped out of bed and that he ran away. Earlier, when the subject of Mr Bald had first been raised, Mr Forrester had said that in the morning, when it was time to get out of bed, Mr Bald would jump "in bed with the boys, tickle them up or whatever", thereby indicating an attitude of horseplay that might or might not have been innocent. He claimed that after the incident involving him, Mr Bald came to him apologising saying "I'm very sorry for what happened". These accusations against Mr Bald, who died as recently as 25 January 1998, wholly lacked detail to support a finding of impropriety on Mr Bald's part. 967 According to Mr Forrester, he talked to Mr Gunner whilst they were at St Mary's. Mr Forrester said of Mr Gunner that: "He just talked about that he came from Utopia and he remembered quite a few of his uncles' names there and some of his tribal people and an old jalopy they used to ride around in." Superficially, that answer would appear to contradict Mr Gunner's evidence that he did not know the name Utopia and that he had no idea of the location of his home. However, Mr Forrester was, in 1999, recounting an event that occurred at least forty years earlier and there was a possibility that he was importing into his memory of that conversation information that had subsequently been acquired. I do not accept the literal accuracy of this passage of his evidence in the sense that I do not accept that Mr Gunner necessarily used the word "Utopia" as a child at St Mary's. 968 Mr Forrester was pushed severely, but fairly, in cross-examination to explain how it came to pass that he had proffered himself as a witness for the applicants in this case. The following exchange then occurred between witness and cross-examiner: "And you thought it would help you to come into court and tell that story? --- I think so. Why? --- Well, it's going to help me a lot for the public to know what happened in the past. Help you to get money? --- Who's worried about money? Who's worried about money? --- I've never had a thousand dollars in my pocket, sir, in my life. You want some now? --- Are you going to pay me some? Do you want money now? --- I've got sufficient money in the bank, sir. Do you want money by way of compensation for the story that you're telling? --- Who's asking? Did I ask for compensation in this particular case? Have you asked for it at all? --- No. You've never asked for it? --- No. I see. It would be quite wrong to say that you're seeking compensation? --- I think so in this case. I haven't verbally asked for it myself. Don't talk about this case for the moment. Would it be wrong to say that you're seeking compensation? --- For myself? Yes? --- No. You're not? --- I'm not. There's no basis on which it could be said that you want compensation? … Not for myself, no." Mr Forrester's answers are inaccurate. He is a plaintiff in Action No DG 511 of 1996 which was instituted in his name in the High Court of Australia naming the Commonwealth as a respondent. In the general endorsement to the Writ of Summons, he has claimed that, as a child, he was removed by the Commonwealth from his mother without her consent. He seeks damages, including "aggravated and/or exemplary damages", compensation, interest and costs. There are two very serious contradictions in Mr Forrester's evidence. In the first place, his oral evidence contradicted the general endorsement of the writ that he was removed without his mother's consent. In the second place, his oral evidence that he is not seeking compensation and never has sought compensation is contradicted by his claim for damages and compensation in the writ. 969 Mr Forrester was not an impressive witness. Because he strongly supported Mr Gunner's case and because he was firmly opposed to the role of the Commonwealth, there were several occasions when he answered questions with a heavy bias in favour of Mr Gunner's case. That may not be so readily apparent from a reading of the transcript as it was from listening to the way in which he responded to the questions asked of him. For example, when asked about clothing at St Mary's he answered in a very critical and dismissive manner "there were no shoes". However, his and other evidence established to my satisfaction that he and other part Aboriginal children had been unaccustomed to wearing shoes prior to going to St Mary's; they took their shoes off by preference when the opportunity arose. In the same context Mr Forrester described the clothing that the children wore to school as "an atrocious set of trousers". No other witness was that critical of the children's clothing. In fact, Mrs Rosie Kunoth-Monks' evidence was that the St Mary's children were dressed as well as, if not better than, the other children at the Hartley Street School. I far prefer her evidence to that of Mr Forrester. Asked to describe the provision of food at St Mary's, he talked of "wormy porridge" and "cabbage they cooked you wouldn't feed pigs with it". He conceded that over the years the food "started to get better" but, as he added, "kids are always hungry". I would not be prepared to rely on his evidence in a matter of importance unless it was independently corroborated. 970 Mr Scrutton was sent to St Mary's when he was eight or nine years of age. Archdeacon Bott was then in charge of the Hostel. On the basis that he gave his age as forty-eight and his birthday as 12 September, Mr Scrutton would have been born in 1951. That would mean that he went to St Mary's some time in about 1959 or 1960, arriving there three or four years after Mr Gunner. In fact archival records, point to Mr Scrutton having entered St Mary's sometime in 1960 and having left some time in the 1962-1963 financial year. Exhibit R103 is an archival document dated 26 June 1957 signed by Mrs Ballagh of the Alice Springs Welfare Branch. It was addressed to the District Welfare Officer and carried the following heading: "Stanly Scrutton: Born 12/9/51 Parents: Joe Scrutton Part/coloured Ruby Full/blood aboriginal." It stated that Stanley's father had requested that his son be admitted to St Mary's. Mrs Ballagh then wrote: "An elder daughter, Beatrice Scrutton, is already maintained by her father at St. Mary's Hostel, and Joe Scrutton is also prepared to maintain Stanley at St. Mary's." 971 Mr Scrutton Senior offered to pay St Mary's Ł1 per week towards his son's maintenance and upkeep. It was Mr Scrutton's evidence that he was not aware, until he heard in Court on the day that he gave evidence, that he went to St Mary's at the instigation of his mother and his father. I find that difficult to believe. The more so because, as he acknowledged, it was not a patrol officer who took him to St Mary's. He agreed that it was probably his father who took him in. He was not a stranger to St Mary's; his elder sister Beatrice was an inmate before him and he used to visit her with his parents. Exhibit R102 was acknowledged and identified by Mr Scrutton as a photograph of himself and Beatrice. He accepted that it had been taken at St Mary's just prior to them leaving to go home on holidays. Both children were neatly dressed and were wearing shoes; the photograph gave some indication that, at least on occasions, the children were neat and well dressed. 972 Mr Scrutton did not like St Mary's; he said he tried to run away "any chance I got, and every chance I got". He was with Mr Gunner at the time when Mr Gunner accidentally drank battery acid thinking it was water. He, like others, said that the boys used to go to the rubbish dump looking for additional food. Mr Scrutton said that he wet his bed on occasions and that when he did so, he would get the cane or a spanking. Mr Scrutton was asked "with what sort of regularity did floggings occur at St Mary's?" He answered by saying: "Well, if you done one little wrong thing according to whoever was in charge, well, you got it." Asked to state the reasons for these floggings Mr Scrutton said that "mainly I got it for running away or stealing". During his cross-examination Mr Scrutton became guarded in his answers and almost truculent. He was asked questions directed towards the length of his stay at St Mary's. At one stage he said poutishly: "Well, I'm not there to keep on time. I try to run away all the time." Another example of Mr Scrutton's truculence during cross-examination related to a simple line of questioning concerning his education: "How long did you stay at the Hartley Street School? --- Till the Eastside one was built, I suppose. Till? --- Eastside one – primary school was built. Yes. Well, was that a year or two years? --- I don't know, I wasn't the contractor. I don't understand what you mean by that? --- I didn't built the school. No, but you can tell me how long you stayed at the Hartley Street School? --- Well, I wasn't there to count how long. I was there for education. I tried to run away and I did not count everything else. What, did you not attend to your lessons? --- Sometimes. … Are you finding it difficult to tell me about your schooling? --- Well, they all wanted to give me an education, put me in there. I didn't want the education. Your father wanted you to have an education? --- Well, that's his problem, not mine. We'll leave the problem with him; he's the one who wanted you to have the education? --- Oh, good on him. And your mother too? --- Oh, no doubt. And the place to get it was by sending you to St Mary's? --- Right. Are you upset with them because they sent you to St Mary's? --- Yes. You accuse them of doing the wrong thing? --- Far as I was concerned, yeah. Did you take that up with them and tell them at the time that they'd done the wrong thing? --- Did you ever tell your parents what to do when you were a child? I interpret that as meaning no? --- Yes." 973 Mr Scrutton, unlike Mr Forrester, was quite open in his claim for compensation. He was asked: "How did it come about that you asked him to issue the writ? That was a couple of years back I think, when they had the Stolen Generation meeting up in Darwin, so – so automatically I thought oh well, kids were stolen away from the parents, we're going to get compensation or something – something or other so I just went and filled in one. Yes, you wanted to get money? --- Well as – well as the rest, yeah. How much money did you want? --- I don't know. As much as you could get? --- As much as was supposed to be given out, I suppose." 974 Mr Scrutton also made accusations against Mr Constable, claiming that Mr Constable had him (Mr Scrutton) lie on a bed. He said that Mr Constable then took his (Mr Scrutton's) shorts off and masturbated him, after which he (Mr Constable) lay down alongside him. Mr Scrutton then said: "That's when I got up and walked through the door." Mr Scrutton said that when Mr Constable lay down on the bed alongside of him "he wanted me to do the same thing what he did to me to him". After that incident, when Mr Scrutton returned home on holidays, he told his father about Mr Constable's conduct. Although his father did not make any complaint, Stanley did not return to St Mary's. Mr Scrutton's truculence disappeared when it was put to him in cross-examination that the Constable incident was just a figment of his imagination. He noticeably changed and answered defiantly that it did happen. Notwithstanding the unsatisfactory elements of his evidence to which I have referred, I am satisfied that some incident did occur; it involved Mr Constable and it involved some form of sexual deviance on the part of Mr Constable. 975 Mr Gardiner gave his date of birth as 6 October 1948. He said that he got this information from St Mary's. He has no recollection of his mother or his father. He said it was his grandfather who cared for him at Areyonga "but there was like a lot of families there because like an Aboriginal turnout and families you all have lot of family, but he was one in charge of me". Mr Gardiner described his relationship with his grandfather in most affectionate terms: "Well, your Honour, he's the one sort of like was my responsibility and I remember we didn't have much, but by Aboriginal standard we had everything because he loved me so much and when we used to make fire in the big wurley there I sleep with him all the time and he used to put me against the fire side so I could keep warm and he used to keep me warm by his body." It seemed from Mr Gardiner's evidence that his grandfather was an itinerant dingo hunter, operating with three or four camels, and that Mr Gardiner, as a small child, used to accompany him on some, but not all, of his trips. Mr Gardiner said that, as a small child, he did not speak English, but he can remember going to school at Areyonga "now and again". He said that his grandfather was not there "when they took me". Asked who had taken him away, he said that he did not remember other than that it was a white person driving a vehicle. That was the extent of Mr Gardiner's evidence about being taken from his community. Whilst it might have the hallmarks of a forced removal, I acknowledge the Commonwealth's submission that it was also possible that his removal might have been arranged after prior consultation with his grandfather. 976 Mr Gardiner could remember his arrival at St Mary's. He said that he started crying but Sister Eileen "came out with a piece of cake and gave me stopped me cry" (sic). He said there was another person at St Mary's who could speak his language and Sister Eileen "went and found one bloke called Walter Forrester". Walter took him in hand, showing him the dormitory where he was to sleep, the toilets and other areas of interest. Mr Gardiner's native tongue was Pitjatjantjara; when asked whether he was able to speak it at St Mary's he replied that he had to start speaking English. He was not asked and he did not suggest that he was punished for speaking his first language. Asked about the food at St Mary's, Mr Gardiner said that he could remember "cabbage and rhubarb, because I hated it". In that regard, he shared a common dislike for the food with Daniel Forrester. He said "we must have been hungry every day". He described how the young boys used their shanghais to kill birds and cook them and eat them. He also said that they went down to the dump to get food and that they ran alongside the railway tracks hoping that the passengers or the staff on The Ghan would throw them food. 977 Mr Gardiner said that he did not wear shoes and referred to his feet cracking. Questioned in cross-examination about not wearing shoes it was put to Mr Gardiner: "Did you prefer not to wear shoes, Mr Gardiner? --- Well, we have different environment; you don't have to wear shoes. What about when you were running along the creek with your shanghai, was it better not to wear shoes? --- Like, it was better. Sorry? --- It was better for us anyway because it kept us – keep our – harden our foot up. Not to wear shoes? --- Mm. Helps to harden your feet up? --- Yep." 978 He said that his grandfather visited him at St Mary's but he could only remember seeing him twice. He believed that he was at St Mary's for about five or six years and he never went home on school holidays. Mr Gardiner thought that he went to St Mary's in 1954 and left in 1959. If he were correct in his dates, Mr Gardiner would have been at St Mary's about two years before Mr Gunner's arrival. He remembered Peter Gunner at St Mary's. He thought of him as "sort of the leader for us for a while". Mr Gardiner could not remember whether he was in the same class as Peter nor could he remember whether he or Peter arrived at St Mary's first. 979 He said that he was given the strap at St Mary's and when asked for what reason, he said that it was for burning some braces. He also said that he was given the strap for other reasons, "probably fighting or something like that between ourselves". He said that it was Mr Bald who gave him the strap. 980 Mr Gardiner claimed that Mr Bald sexually molested him. He said that Mr Bald got into his bed and that he (Mr Bald) played with his (Mr Gardiner's) penis "and things like that". Asked whether it happened once or did it happen more than once he said: "No it happened many times, I reckon." Mr Gardiner said that he might have been about eight at the time and that Mr Bald's conduct went on for a couple of years. Asked "what else did he do?" Mr Gardiner replied: "Well he tried to – you know. Well, he didn't actually, you know, sodomise me, but just got his penis and put it between my legs and – till – you know, till he finished." Under cross-examination, Mr Gardiner said that Mr Bald accosted him several times – as often as weekly or fortnightly. He, like the other boys, said that he never spoke about the incident to anyone. Mr Gardiner thinks that Mr Bald came one or two years after he arrived. That suggestion was not accepted by the cross-examiner: "Well, Mr Gardiner, I suggest to you you're wrong about that. I suggest that in fact that Mr Bald was only there for a time in 1956, 1957, in fact he was only there for at the most 2 years and that he had left before you. What do you say about that? --- I might have got amnesia." 981 It was Captain Steep's evidence that Mr Bald arrived at St Mary's at the beginning of August 1956; he replaced Miss Ann Ball. According to Captain Steep, Mr Bald "went over very well with the boys particularly"; he said that Mr Bald was instrumental in having the boys dig out the area for the swimming pool. It was Captain Steep's recollection that work on the swimming pool commenced in early 1957 in Mr Bald's time and that it was operational when Mr Constable arrived. He agreed that this meant that Mr Gunner would have been at St Mary's at the time and could have been involved in digging the excavation for the pool. It was Captain Steep's recollection that Mr Bald "finished up towards the end of 1958"; he described Mr Bald as "fairly firm" but he never understood him to be "harsh or cruel". He never heard of any allegation or complaint that Mr Bald had sexually assaulted a boy. For a short period of time, a Mr Bill Penman filled in for Mr Bald but he was considered unsuitable and was replaced by Mr Kevin Constable. Captain Steep's recollection that Mr Bald left late in 1958 was incorrect. I am satisfied that Mr Constable arrived in August 1958 to replace Mr Penman who, in turn, had been appointed to replace Mr Bald. I find that Mr Bald probably left in the first half of 1958. 982 In re-examination it was put to Mr Gardiner, and he agreed, that there were things that he had tried to forget and that included what Mr Bald did to him. After such a long gap in time, it would be unreasonable to expect a witness to have an exact memory for dates and periods of time in respect of events that happened to him as a small child. However, that does not mean that the same person would necessarily confuse the event – particularly such a traumatic event as sexual molestation. His allegations against Mr Bald were very disconcerting. Like those of Mr Forrester, they lacked detail and were not referred to in the pleadings. They were stated in the broadest and most general of terms whereas, in the case of Mr Constable, there were allegations in reasonable detail. No like complaint was made by Mr Gunner against Mr Bald nor did Mr Gardiner make any complaint against Mr Constable. Although I consider that the evidence against Mr Bald was admissible as evidence of an alleged failure by the Commonwealth to supervise properly the operations at St Mary's, I would be loathe to make specific findings about Mr Bald's conduct towards Mr Gardiner. 983 According to his birth certificate, GK was born on 1 January 1948 in South Australia near the Northern Territory border. He said that his biological father was the owner of a cattle station and, as he referred to himself as a half-caste, I infer that his father was European and his mother Aboriginal. GK is a very bitter man; his bitterness and his anger showed through very clearly as he gave his evidence. Sometime after he was born, his mother married an Aboriginal man. GK was sent to live with his grandfather because he was not wanted by his mother's husband, and, so he has been told, he was at risk of being killed. His answers under cross-examination showed his anger towards the white community, but they also showed what dreadful consequences were heaped on some part Aboriginal children as a result of liaisons between Aboriginal women and non Aboriginal men. "And why did you live with your grandfather then? --- Because of what the white people did to us. Didn't you live with your grandfather because you mother's new husband didn't want to have anything to do with you because you were a half caste? --- That's right, and you people caused that. Wasn't it the case that, as you understand the tribal law of your people, that half-caste children or mixed blood children were not wanted . . . ? --- And because of - that was because of you lot again." The cross-examination then turned to the shocking subject of part Aboriginal children being killed: "Were you told that your mother had been told by her full-blood husband that she had to kill you because you were a half-caste? --- That's what they did to - or said about a lot of half-caste kids because you people ruined our lives. Well, I'm not asking you for a political statement about other half-caste children, I'm just asking about your experience, Mr [K--]. Okay? So if you can just . . . ? --- My experience is that you should have left - left us alone in the first place. Well, if you can perhaps just leave aside your views on Welfare. I'll come to Welfare in a minute. I'm just asking about your full-blood father's attitude towards you, and I'm suggesting to you that your full blood stepfather did not want you and told your mother to kill you because you were a half-caste. Do you agree or disagree with that? --- I agree with that, yes." That passage of evidence cannot be accepted as being literally accurate; it is not evidence that the stepfather did tell GK's mother to kill him nor is it evidence that the stepfather had any intention of influencing his death. However, it is evidence of GK's belief; it is evidence that he grew up believing that his mother had been under some form of pressure to kill him. It is easy to understand the hurt and suffering that he would have felt as he grew up, knowing or thinking that his mother might have wanted him dead. Is it any wonder that such a person would lash out, blaming anyone whom he thought might have been responsible for his predicament? In the case of GK, illogical though it was, it was the white community. His assertion in the passage of his evidence that "you should have left – left us alone in the first place" was, if it was referring to part Aboriginal children, very risky. Left alone with his grandfather, he might have had a happy childhood: left alone with his mother and stepfather who knows what might have happened to him. 984 It was put to GK in cross-examination that he was placed in St Mary's in 1954 at the request of his mother and stepfather. He would not agree to this but he did agree that his mother accompanied him to the Bungalow and stayed with him there for a few days before he was taken to St Mary's. The Commonwealth also tendered a document from the records of the Native Affairs Branch, carrying an entry that GK had been "admitted at the request of parents". GK stayed at St Mary's for almost ten years, leaving in either 1963 or 1964. He was not able to find anything good in anyone or anything at St Mary's. He disliked the food; he said that he was hit with a strap or a hose if he was heard speaking his native tongue; he even had harsh words to say about Sister Eileen. Unlike most others who knew Sister Eileen and gave evidence in this trial, he accused her of lacking in the love and care that the children needed: "See, I suggest to you that Sister Eileen was a very loving and caring woman who took the St Mary's children under her wing. Do you disagree with that, do you? --- Well, she didn't take me under her wings, that's for sure. Did she take other children under her wing and . . . ? --- No." That may have been GK's perception of this very remarkable woman, but all the other evidence in the trial points to him being wrong. 985 GK was already at St Mary's when Mr Constable arrived there. It was his evidence that, within a few months of his arrival, Mr Constable started coming to him in the dormitory at night when GK was in bed; this would happen two or three nights a week. GK thought that he would have been thirteen or fourteen at the time; he said that Mr Constable would rub GK's penis and, on occasions, make GK rub his (Constable's) penis. He went on to say that this practice continued with the same regularity: "first in the dormitory, then in the cottage and later in the farm house". GK said that he tried to stop Mr Constable but he could not. GK was challenged in cross-examination about this evidence. It was put to him that when questioned by Ms Chase of Mr Kelly's office, he had told her that there had been one occasion when Mr Constable had sexually assaulted him. GK denied having made any such statement. Ms Chase was an investigator who had been retained by the Commonwealth to investigate the whereabouts of likely witnesses and to take statements from them. The taped record of Ms Chase's interview was then played in Court and GK agreed that it was his voice. When it was put to him that during the course of his interview with Ms Chase he only referred to one incident of sexual misbehaviour by Mr Constable, GK replied, most unconvincingly: "Well, when she asked me those questions I told her that and she didn't go on further with it." That was not the only inconsistency in GK's evidence. A very disturbing feature about his evidence was the accusation that he levelled against Mr Bald. He had made no complaint about Mr Bald during the course of his evidence in chief nor in his cross-examination until the cross-examiner asked him: "Is there any other staff member at St Mary's against whom you'd like to make any allegations?" GK replied "Malcolm Bald". He then proceeded to claim that on one occasion as he was leaving the bathroom Mr Bald "grabbed" him "on the penis". Contrary to his claims about the regularity of Mr Constable's conduct, GK said of Mr Bald that this misconduct happened "just the once and I kept my distance". Another, smaller inconsistency related to GK's condemnation of Mrs Schroeder. In his evidence, GK said that Mrs Schroeder, one of the staff at St Mary's, belted him on a number of occasions but in his taped interview with Ms Chase he had only mentioned one belting by Mrs Schroeder. 986 The quality of GK's evidence was marred by his bitterness and anger. He must be classified as an unreliable witness who was very prone to exaggeration. It is probable that he has exaggerated his evidence about Mr Constable's conduct in particular; an allegation to that effect was put to GK, but denied by him. Yet there was, I believe, a basis of truth in his story. I do not feel confident about making any finding about Mr Bald's conduct, but I am satisfied that there was some impropriety by Mr Constable. I would not be prepared, however, to make specific findings about that conduct. 987 When Mr Constable gave his evidence, a summary of the complaints against him was put to him during the course of his evidence in chief; he denied the allegations made by Mr Scrutton, the allegations made by Mr Forrester and those made by GK. As for GK, he said that he remembered him well and he recalled GK visiting him at St Mary's on occasions after GK had left the home. On the other hand, he had no recollection of Stanley Scrutton. He remembered Daniel Forrester as "a nice kid" but as one who was "very quiet". 988 In his cross-examination, Mr Constable said that he could recall that GK had "a problem with his penis". He said that "it used to crack like a crack that you'd get in your lip in the winter". According to Mr Constable, GK came to him, telling him of his problem; he was about fifteen at the time. I find myself unable to accept Mr Constable's evidence about this subject. In the first place, he said that he (Mr Constable) visited the hospital and spoke to one of the doctors, but for some unstated reasons, he did not take the boy with him. Asked whether it was normal practice for him to attend at a hospital without the patient, he said "probably not"; he agreed that this was the only occasion that he had ever visited a hospital about a child without taking the child with him. Mr Constable said that the doctor advised him that a non-prescription salve should be used and that he was able to obtain the salve from a chemist. At that time, Sister Whetham, a qualified nurse, was on the staff of St Mary's and in charge of the dispensary but, even so, Mr Constable chose not to consult with her about the boy's problem nor inquire of her whether she had a salve in stock. 989 Mr Constable agreed that on two or three occasions he showed the boy how to bathe his penis and how to rub the cream into his foreskin. There then followed a line of questions and answers: "What did you do? --- Just showed him how to bathe it and how to rub the cream into his foreskin. Did you do that? --- Yes. Did you do that on two or three occasions? --- Yes. To a 15 year old boy? --- Yes. You felt that was appropriate behaviour, did you? --- Yes. You felt it was proper behaviour? --- Yes. … Do you think it's unusual behaviour for a house father to apply cream or solution to a boy's penis, a 15 year old boy's penis, on two or three occasions? --- No. You don't think that's unusual at all? --- No. Did he have an erection when you applied that cream? --- Slightly. Slightly; was that the first time? --- Yes. And the second time? --- Yes. And the third time? --- Yes. Did that disturb you? --- No. No. And you kept on doing it? --- Well, it was three times. After the first time you kept on doing it? --- He didn't have an erection. He didn't? --- No. I thought you said he …? --- I didn't say he had an erection, partly. He had a part erection? --- Yes. On all three occasions? --- Yes. " 990 The individual and unusual circumstances of a particular child may, in a rare case, justify conduct such as that admitted to by Mr Constable. Yet to suggest that it was warranted on three occasions – and to a degree that it partially aroused the child – was an affront to one's intelligence. As Mr Rush QC asked: "Did you think a 15 year old intelligent boy needed you on three occasions to apply a cream or salve to his penis to show him how to do it? --- And by doing it I could see how it was healing, if it was - everything was all right. I see. You needed to apply the cream with your hand yourself to his penis to make that observation, did you? --- I did it, yes." 991 Although Mr Penhall was stationed in Alice Springs in the early 1960s as the Assistant Director Southern Division, he said that he could not recall Mr Constable as a member of the staff of St Mary's at that time. It was put to Mr Penhall in cross-examination that Mr Constable had admitted in his evidence in this Court: " … that he would routinely apply glycerine to boys' penises for the purpose of cleaning their penises. Did you know that? --- I've been told that but not at - only recently, not at that time. That he applied cream to a partially erect penis of an adolescent boy and said that was acceptable behaviour. Did you know that? --- No, that was put - I only learnt about that fairly recently, within the last 12 months. You would agree that that is entirely - what I've described to you, those two incidents, is entirely unacceptable behaviour, wouldn't you? --- Definitely. And unacceptable at the time? --- It certainly would've been." 992 In his closing submissions, Mr Rush QC referred to this admitted conduct on the part of Mr Constable as "perverted behaviour". I agree with that description. I cannot accept that a responsible carer of adolescent boys would behave in the manner described by Mr Constable – not only now, but also forty or fifty years ago. Obvious precautionary measures could have and should have been taken. In the first place, professional carers could have been used, such as nurses, doctors or the hospital. If that were regarded as impracticable, the boy should have been instructed orally in the method of hygiene. I find it difficult to conceive of a circumstance (short of actual trauma) that would have justified any such physical touching of a child's genitals as described by Mr Constable. However if, contrary to my belief, a physical touching was necessary, it should have been done in the presence of an adult witness. 993 There were many areas in the evidence of Mr Gunner that were, for one reason or another, unsatisfactory. They were, in some cases, so unsatisfactory, that I would not rely on them without independent corroboration. However, his evidence about Mr Constable's conduct was in a different category. The basic allegation of improper behaviour did not suffer from the confusion that was present throughout much of his evidence. I remain conscious of Mr Constable's denials and I remain conscious of the Briginshaw test but, there is, in my opinion, sufficient other evidence to make a finding, which I do, in favour of Mr Gunner. Although it was unsatisfactory in its detail – the evidence of Messrs Forrester, Scrutton and GK also point to some form of sexual impropriety on the part of Mr Constable. However, the strongest support for Mr Gunner comes, in my opinion, from Mr Constable's own evidence. Although his conduct involved another boy, Mr Constable confessed to behaviour that I assess as behaviour that would be consistent with that complained of by Mr Gunner. 994 There are, in my opinion, two competing conclusions that may be drawn from the evidence of the former children and the evidence of Mr Constable. The first is that what the former children said about Mr Constable's conduct was basically correct and that Mr Constable sought to confess and avoid by proffering what he thought was an innocent explanation. The second is that Mr Constable's evidence is basically correct: that the boys took offence at his conduct – if not at the time – then in later years and that over the course of many years, the details of his conduct have become blurred in their memories. The actions to which Mr Constable admitted would disgust anyone who had the slightest sense of propriety. To stimulate a fifteen year old boy by manipulating his penis – not once but three times – ostensibly for reasons of hygiene amounts to sexual misconduct in my opinion. The summaries of the complainants' evidence have shown numerous inconsistencies; they were prone to exaggeration. They so hated Mr Constable and St Mary's that they were prepared, on occasions, to say outrageous things. I have allowed for all that, but I conclude that there was sexual misconduct by Mr Constable. 995 The accusations that were made against Mr Malcolm Bald, as part of Mr Gunner's case against the Commonwealth were most serious. Mr Bald is dead. He is denied the opportunity of defending his name and the Commonwealth is denied the opportunity of presenting his evidence to the Court. Mr Gunner did not accuse Mr Bald of any form of sexual misbehaviour. The evidence about Mr Bald came from other boys who were formerly resident at St Mary's Hostel at the same time as Mr Gunner. As I have already noted, the evidence of Messrs Forrester and GK was very unreliable – so much so that one could not proceed on it with any feeling of assurance. The evidence of Mr Gardiner was not subject to the same criticism; it can draw limited support from Mr Forrester and GK, but it lacks the additional element that was present in Mr Gunner's case – a form of admission from the alleged offender. I am not prepared to bring down an adverse finding against the late Mr Bald. 996 Mrs Dorothy Louise Bott swore an affidavit in these proceedings on 15 June 1998. It had been intended that she would be called as a witness for the Commonwealth but, sadly, she died on 1 September 1998. Her affidavit was tendered without objection and received into evidence as exhibit R189. She stated that her husband, the Reverend Alfred Henry Bott had been an Anglican priest and Archdeacon and that he had died, aged eighty, on 25 July 1992. In 1958, when he was the State Secretary of the Australian Board of Missions in South Australia, Archdeacon Bott was asked by Bishop Hudson, the then Bishop of Carpentaria, to accept the position of Rector of the Alice Springs Parish. It was then that the Reverend and Mrs Bott commenced their involvement with St Mary's Hostel, because part of the Rector's duties was to oversee the two Anglican Hostels in Alice Springs, St John's Hostel and St Mary's Hostel. 997 Mrs Bott's evidence was not of great value. Her memories of St Mary's were distant, and with time and distance, they had all become happily adjusted. I accept that Mrs Bott gave her statement to the best of her ability but I doubt that I can put it to use. Her recollection that Captain Steep "seemed to know all about his job" is contradicted by the written reports of Mrs Ballagh. Although Mrs Bott knew that police charges had been brought against Mr Kevin Constable, she regarded him as "a peaceful man" who, when he got angry "would just go quiet". She added "I have no reason to think that he might have abused the children in any way. [T]hat would just not have been in his nature". I cannot share Mrs Bott's opinion of this man. 998 It would appear that, to Mrs Bott, everything of which she had a memory at St Mary's was lovely. The dormitory for the senior girls "was just like a real home"; there were "plenty of bed clothes, sheets and blankets"; "the meals were very good and there was plenty of food"; "all the children received a good education"; she had no memories of there ever being "any serious health problems", nor fortunately, did she remember the toilet and shower facilities. The children were, so she wrote, "generally very well behaved, quiet and shy by nature". She had no recollection of "any formal policy of discipline" but volunteered: "My husband would have slapped our own child for misbehaviour if necessary and I don't think that he would have disapproved of that type of discipline of the children." 999 She was not aware of any policy that discouraged the children from speaking their tribal language but she had no memory of tribal languages being spoken at St Mary's. In an affidavit of ten pages, Mrs Bott did not have an unhappy recollection of St Mary's. The evidence to the contrary from other witnesses and from the documentary evidence was quite overwhelming. 1000 There was however one matter of significance in Mrs Bott's affidavit. In discussing "holidays" she wrote: "If the children did not have families to go to, they would go south in their holidays." 1001 That statement is consistent with other evidence to the same effect and justifies a finding that it was not uncommon for some part Aboriginal children, who were resident at St Mary's, to remain with the Hostel throughout the holiday period. In some cases, the distance was so great that time and costs prevented travel; in other cases the children had no home to which they could return or, worse, were not wanted. 1002 Mrs Rosalie (Rosie) Kunoth-Monks was called as a witness for the Commonwealth. She was most impressive and I am happy to rely on all aspects of her evidence. To several older generations of Australians, she was and is famous as the Aboriginal heroine "Jedda", in Charles Chauvel's 1955 film of the same name. Although she did not recognise it at the time, Mrs Kunoth-Monks now realises and accepts that the film contained important messages for Australian society; she said that it sought to establish that Australia could be a land of two cultures and that assimilation need never happen. Mr Creed Lovegrove compiled a report on St Mary's in January 1954. He reported quite favourably on all aspects of the Home. One entry of passing interest was: "Rosie Kunoth travelled to Sydney in October 1953 to join the Charles Chauvel Film Unit." 1003 Mrs Kunoth-Monks said that she was born on 4 January 1937 on Utopia Station. Her mother was Ruby Anala, a traditional person from the Anmatyerre clan and her father was Alan Kunoth; she was the second eldest of nine children. Her mother came from Utopia as did her maternal grandfather. Her maternal grandmother came from Bushy Park, a pastoral property to the south of Utopia and closer to Alice Springs. Her paternal grandparents were Trott and Amelia Kunoth. Trott was European but Amelia was of mixed heritage. In addition to her eight siblings, the late Sonny Jim Kunoth was her older stepbrother; she said that her father, Alan, was also his father but that his mother was Minnie. 1004 Mrs Kunoth-Monks has had a remarkable career; she was placed in St Mary's by her parents when she was about thirteen. That means that she would have gone there in about 1950, in the time of Sister Eileen Heath. Although she did not expressly state the year when she left St Mary's, it would seem that it might have been at the end of 1954. When she went to St Mary's, she had not had any previous schooling. She agreed in cross-examination that she was so homesick at first that she thought that she would die. 1005 During her time there, she had a break of about twelve months in 1953 whilst "Jedda" was being filmed but she returned to the Hostel and to school once the film was finished. She said that when she left St Mary's, she returned home for about eighteen months and then, after spending some time in Alice Springs, she went to Adelaide in 1957 where she obtained work as a nurse's aid. In 1959 she went to Melbourne where she was received into Holy Orders as an Anglican Nun. Ten years later in, 1969, she left her order to join the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs. Mrs Kunoth-Monks married in 1970 and returned to Alice Springs in 1977 where she managed an Aboriginal Hostel for transient Aboriginal adults and children. She also became involved in politics, acting as a ministerial adviser on Aboriginal Affairs in Central Australia. From the late 1970s until 1990, she was a member and President of the Aboriginal Legal Aid Service, during which time Mr Gunner worked for the Service for about five years as a field officer. She described his duties as including the "collating and getting written statements to give our lawyers". She said that his services were terminated because he had threatened the Administrator of the Service. 1006 After leaving the Legal Aid Service, Mrs Kunoth-Monks operated her own cleaning business. Then, as she said, "in 1993 I went home to Utopia". Upon her return to Utopia, Mrs Kunoth-Monks took up an involvement in Aboriginal Community Affairs, becoming secretary of the local Urapuntja Community Council during 1994 and 1995. She explained that the Council is the point of contact between the European and Aboriginal social structures. She is now fully involved in traditional business; she is also president of a body that is concerned with Sacred Sites in the Alice Springs area, Deputy Chair of the Batchelor Institute of Indigenous Tertiary Education, a member of the board for the Centre for Appropriate Technology, an indigenous oriented organisation, and a member of the Board of St Mary's Hostel. 1007 That is the remarkable record of a remarkable woman. From a traditional Aboriginal background, she was introduced to western culture at St Mary's and western education at the Hartley Street school – but only to primary grade level. Thereafter, by dint of her own efforts and ability she was first a nun, then a business woman, a ministerial adviser and now a community leader. In giving her evidence, she was as impressive as her record. She spoke with clarity, intelligence and conviction. Both the applicants and the Commonwealth claimed that they could derive support from the evidence that Mrs Kunoth-Monks gave. I agree – it was testimony to her neutrality and honesty. She was very supportive of Aboriginal values and traditions and, in that sense, offered much support to the applicants; but she was equally strong in her recognition of the need for Aboriginal people to participate in western culture and of the benefits that were available to them as a result of a western education. In that sense, she strongly supported the concept that it could be in the interests of an individual to share the traditional life with a western education. 1008 There was a lengthy passage in Mrs Kunoth-Monks' examination in chief, which, in my opinion, was of great value in helping to understand the competing values that were facing members of the Aboriginal community during the time of her youth. Whilst they clung to their cultures and traditions, I find, based on Mrs Kunoth-Monks' evidence, that they nevertheless appreciated the value of a western education for their children. Mrs Kunoth-Monks' evidence so clearly expressed the problem that I prefer to quote what she said. Her answers covered, first, the attitudes of her tribal relatives, secondly, those of her father, who, through his work as a shearer, had a much closer connection with the western lifestyle, and finally and, most importantly, her feelings as a young teenage girl: "Now, when you went away to school do you know who made the arrangements for you to go to St Mary's? --- My father. Was it a matter that was discussed with you before you went or were you simply told you were going? --- No, we'd observed that my grandmother, his mother, Amelia, had said that we were growing and it was time that we were put into the school in Alice Springs or we were to access school in Alice Springs. Right. Do you know what your mother's attitude was towards you going to school? --- Mother really didn't understand what school was, because mum had never been exposed to that. But after discussion with Father and the rest of the family, maternal grandparents, they all came to an agreement that we should go to school. Now, when you say your maternal grandparents we're talking about the traditional grandparents you described who were living at Utopia? --- Yes. Do you know what their attitude was specifically about you and your brothers going off to school? --- They accepted it because they felt it was good for us to access that mainstream education. You indicated that your father took you into St Mary's. What happened when you got to St Mary's? What are your first recollections of the place? --- God, I suppose the first thing I became aware of was that there was a lot of children. Didn't really want to jump out of the truck, but we also felt it was an adventure, but as children will we wanted our parents to be there to take on the adventure with us. Well, at least, that's how I felt. The pain of separation that I distinctly remember is when my father's truck drove away, well, it was our truck, and that's when it really hit me that for the first time I was going to be physically separated, not only from my country, which was Utopia, and the surrounds, but also from my parents and from my extended family that I'd grown up with, so … . Did you have any sense of how long you were going to be there, how long your father had left you there for? --- Not really, because when we came to school we certainly had no comprehension of weeks, numeracy, or indeed, in thinking in English to say - say a year or month or anything, we had none of that." 1009 Although she regarded Utopia as her home, Mrs Kunoth-Monks led an itinerant life as a child, moving from station to station because of her father's work as a shearer. Shearing took up about eight months in the year but the balance of the time was spent at Utopia. English was not her first language; she spoke Anmatyerre and Aranta as a child but her father, who arranged for her to go to St Mary's, gave her, what she described as, a "crash course" in English before she and two of her brothers left home for St Mary's. She said that all her siblings, with the exception of the youngest, went to St Mary's. One of her brothers, Colin went to St Mary's after she left. The name of Colin Kunoth is significant in that he was the particular friend of the young Peter Gunner. Mrs Kunoth-Monks has managed to retain her fluency in her first language, Anmatyerre, notwithstanding her subsequent extended absence of about twenty years from her Aboriginal culture. 1010 Mrs Kunoth-Monks said that, as a thirteen year old child, she was placed in grade one at school where some of the children were as young as six or seven. Because of the disparity in ages, she found her first year at school particularly difficult. Although there were children at St Mary's who spoke her native languages, she had to cope with lessons in English - and English was the only language used by the staff at St Mary's. But, so she said, she never felt suppressed about using her own language. Mrs Kunoth-Monks memories of St Mary's and its staff were happy memories. Sister Eileen was in charge when she arrived and Mrs Kunoth-Monks described her as "caring". She was also at St Mary's for a short while after Captain and Mrs Steep arrived. She recalled them as "very warm open people". When she was asked about the showers and toilets, Mrs Kunoth-Monks gave what could only be described as an answer that was, in comparative terms, both accurate and realistic: "For some of us who had not had running water and showers and so forth, to me it was a luxury." She also said that although there were occasions at home when she had clean blankets and a bunk with a mattress, there were also occasions when she and her family slept on the ground; she used sheets for the first time at St Mary's. 1011 Mrs Kunoth-Monks was able to give a reasonably detailed account of the daily routine for the children whilst she was at St Mary's. There were small matters where her memory had faded, but that is to be expected after a period of almost fifty years. She detailed, for example, the type of food that was served to the children, explaining that it was entirely different from what she had eaten at Utopia. Although she did not suggest that the children were ever hungry, she did say that they were permitted to, and were quick to, look for bush tucker – "Anything; if there were goannas, bearded dragons, that was our meat". Mrs Kunoth-Monks explained the importance of bush tucker to the Aboriginal: "… even if you took me to dinner now in Alice Springs and gave me the best of what you had, the emotional ties and experience to accessing bush tucker is entirely different. It's a social outing; it's - some of those things are your totem, some of the foods, so it's entirely different. I can't even explain it." 1012 Some of the witnesses in the trial, such as Daniel Forrester, Stanley Scrutton and Wally Gardiner, who were children at St Mary's, complained that they were not supplied with shoes; they complained that they had to walk barefoot. They were, of course, at St Mary's at different times to Mrs Kunoth-Monks but her evidence was to the contrary. She described the older girls' school uniform as "a tunic with a blouse underneath and shoes and socks, and a ribbon usually there". But then she added that as soon as "we got home from school, we took [our] shoes off". When asked, during her evidence in chief, how the clothing of the St Mary's children compared with the clothing of the other children at the Hartley Street school (both other part Aboriginal children and European children) Mrs Kunoth-Monks responded: "equally, and maybe a bit better". 1013 Mrs Kunoth-Monks and her two brothers went home to their parents during the school holidays as did some, but not all, of the children at St Mary's. Where they went would depend on where Mr Kunoth was shearing, but some part of the Christmas holidays would be spent at Utopia. In addition to seeing her parents during the holidays, Mrs Kunoth-Monks said that whenever her mother and father came into Alice Springs they would go out to St Mary's to see her and her brothers; she knew of no restrictions on their visits. She also knew that other parents visited their children during terms. 1014 Mrs Kunoth-Monks knew Topsy, Peter Gunner's mother, quite well during her childhood at Utopia. She explained that "because of our kinship relationship and because of our close clan group, Peter's mother was also my mother". She also said that she knew Topsy's four sisters, Molly, Polly, Angeline and Kathleen. Mrs Kunoth-Monks said that Topsy was six or seven years older than her and "was responsible for part of my traditional upbringing". Mrs Kunoth-Monks was asked whether she had any contact with Topsy when she returned to Utopia during the holidays. She replied: "Yes, she would be one of the people there, not the person, (sic) but she would be one of our family in the group." She also described how she talked to members of her extended family about Alice Springs and about the Aboriginal people who were there so that her family would be assured "that we weren't harmed in any way". Assuming that she was involved, those discussions might have given Topsy some insight into a new life, and, in particular, into the life of children at St Mary's but, in her absence, it is not possible to make any findings on the subject. 1015 In cross-examination, Mrs Kunoth-Monks was asked what she could remember of Peter Gunner's childhood. In answer to a series of questions, she agreed that he was living a traditional life within the family group in the same way as other children with whom he mixed and played. She also agreed with the proposition that he received from "the Aboriginal people, his clan, the love and affection that you would expect for any other Aboriginal child"; but she said that she had no knowledge of Peter's state of health as a small boy. Whether by design, or by accident, the cross-examiner did not ask Mrs Kunoth-Monks to comment on the relationship between young Peter and his mother. 1016 During the course of his cross-examination, Mr Lovegrove was taken to a passage in the evidence of Mrs Kunoth-Monks in which she described the happy, healthy life that Peter Gunner enjoyed at Utopia Station and the love and affection that was given to him. Mr Lovegrove agreed that they were all factors militating against the removal of a young boy of seven or eight years of age. However, he then added an important qualification. He said: "… except that they would not get the sort of education which would help them to compete in a very competitive Australian society. In other words, I believe if the person wanted to continue to be an Aboriginal, yes." 1017 Mrs Kunoth-Monks said in evidence that traditional Aboriginal culture was such that the sisters of the mother of a child were also mothers of that child and the brothers of the father of a child were also fathers of that child. She pointed out: "If I lost my father, which I have indeed, I have a father now who has been put into place for me and my siblings." She also agreed that, through the kinship system and through the clan, strong and close emotional bonds are formed between children and their extended relatives. It is in this sense of kinship that land and country is of great importance to Aboriginal people. Mrs Kunoth-Monks acknowledged that to leave one's country is a cause of enormous homesickness and longing. As she said, "I've gone through it". Mrs Kunoth-Monks said, during the course of her cross-examination, that there was, when she was a child, and there still is, a strong Aboriginal cultural existence at Utopia – it is and always has been a very traditional society. Western civilisation and the work of the missions have, to date, had little impact on those traditions. She also said that the Aboriginal people at Utopia lead a happy healthy life. There has always been plentiful food and the people have been fortunate in avoiding epidemics and diseases. 1018 Mrs Kunoth-Monks knew that part Aboriginal children, but not full blood children, were "removed" or "collected". She also knew of the attempts of Aboriginal mothers to hide their children and to darken their skin by rubbing charcoal on them. She said that Utopia was an isolated place and that it would have been difficult for Aboriginal people from Utopia to visit Alice Springs and to spend time with their children at St Mary's, not only because of distance and lack of transport, but also because of their "great suspicion of Europeans". She regarded her father as an exception because he owned a motor vehicle. She agreed that traditional Aboriginal people "had an in built fear of the policeman and the patrol officer" and she recognised that there was a "great imbalance of power between the two". She said that the European power was dominant and controlling whilst the nature of the Aboriginal person was to avoid conflict. 1019 According to Mrs Kunoth-Monks there were two other part Aboriginal children at Utopia at the same time as she was there. They were the stepsisters Maisie and Florrie Ware; their father was Jack Weir, a European, but they had different mothers. Maisie was about Mrs Kunoth-Monks' age but Florrie was younger. Both Maisie and Florrie went to St Mary's. According to Mrs Kunoth-Monks, Maisie and Florrie's biological father played no part in their upbringing but she said that Florrie's mother married a tribal man, Motor Car Jimmy who became Florrie's stepfather. Without resorting to detail, Mrs Kunoth-Monks said that the relationship between Florrie and Motor Car Jimmy was not "close". 1020 One of the welfare officers at Alice Springs during the time that Peter Gunner was at St Mary's was Mrs MI ("Rene") Archer; she later married a Mr Ballagh. Some of the reports to which reference will be made referred to her by the name of Archer; others used her married name Ballagh. I have referred to her in the earlier part of these reasons as Mrs Ballagh and I will continue to do so. She was involved with St Mary's Hostel from about 1956 until 1963. She made many inspections of the property and submitted several reports – most of them critical of some aspect of St Mary's. She would have been a most valuable source of information to the Court but she died on 26 July 1985. She was consistently dissatisfied with Captain Steep's efforts at St Mary's. 1021 In her report to the Director of Welfare dated 18 July 1956, Mrs Ballagh commented on the result of her visit to St Mary's on 12 July. Addressing the question of the children's health, she noted that one girl was confined to bed with sore eyes. Mrs Ballagh was not satisfied with the attention that the staff were giving to that girl; she felt that there was "a casualness and lack of interest in the child's well being". In another report dated 24 August 1956 Mrs Ballagh recorded details of a complaint that Miss Ball, a member of the staff at St Mary's, had made to her. She said that Miss Ball stressed the unhappiness of the older girls and was highly critical of Captain and Mrs Steep. Much of what Miss Ball complained of was disputed by Captain and Mrs Steep and she was, after all, personally dissatisfied with her position at St Mary's. Nevertheless, unless Miss Ball was motivated by spite or malice – and that has not been suggested – she was sufficiently concerned about the children's welfare to "break ranks" and make an adverse report about the Hostel to the Welfare Branch. 1022 In her report dated 24 August 1956, Mrs Ballagh was highly critical of the manner in which the Steeps managed the day to day affairs at St Mary's. Basing her report on a complaint that had been made to her by Miss Ball, Mrs Ballagh said of him and his wife: "… though no doubt trying to do their job to the best of their ability [they] have not yet reached maturity themselves and cannot be considered fit to have charge of the welfare of 60 - 70 young people." 1023 Sister Eileen agreed that the contents of Mrs Ballagh's report supported the adverse opinion that she had offered in relation to Captain and Mrs Steep earlier in February 1956. In her 1956 report to the Director of Welfare, Sister Eileen spoke generally of staffing at St Mary's saying that: "A very unsatisfactory feature is the inability of the Church to obtain sufficient (or efficient) staff …" Speaking specifically of Captain Steep and his wife, she wrote: "A young Church Army trained couple, inexperienced in anything but parochial duties, has been appointed at long distance by the Bishop, probably on the recommendation of Church Army authorities, who have themselves no way of knowing what the position involves." 1024 Sister Eileen was, overall, very critical of the staffing position at St Mary's. She reported that it was inadequate and that those who were there were not properly equipped to perform their duties. She did not limit her criticism to Captain Steep however; it extended beyond to the Australian Board of Missions because of its lack of financial support and to the Committee that was charged (in some undefined way) with the operations of St Mary's. As to the members of the Committee, Sister Eileen was of the opinion that they lacked knowledge and experience. Sister Eileen said of Mrs Ballagh that she had the necessary expertise and was a good welfare officer. 1025 Captain Steep said that he saw Mrs Ballagh on her visits to St Mary's. He considered that he had a good relationship with her. Although Captain Steep said that Mrs Ballagh visited St Mary's regularly and that he spoke with her regularly by telephone, he said, and I accept, that she never submitted to him any copies of any of the reports that she compiled on St Mary's. That is understandable. They would have been reports prepared by a junior public servant for her superiors and it would have been totally inappropriate for such an officer to disclose her report to a person in the institution that was the subject of the report. 1026 Captain Steep's evidence about Mrs Ballagh's visits and her relationship with the girls in the Hostel was as follows: "When she did come, would she let you know that she was there? --- Nearly always, but I had an understanding with her and I said, 'Look, I realise that you have special rapport with the older girls' and I said, 'Feel free to drop in any time and talk with them' and the girls used to go in and talk with her in town and – so there were times that I wouldn't know she was there until after she'd gone, but mostly she did let me know that she was there." 1027 According to Captain Steep there were occasions when Mrs Ballagh was accompanied by a dietician; on other occasions, she had a medical practitioner with her. Occasionally, Archdeacon Rogers would be present during an inspection. During the visits, Mrs Ballagh was free to talk to the staff and to the children and she made use of that opportunity. Captain Steep readily agreed that Mrs Ballagh was very frank with him and would be quick to point out faults or areas where she considered improvement was needed. It was his belief that he accepted and implemented her recommendations. He agreed that for the purpose of him giving evidence in these proceedings, he had been supplied with copies of Mrs Ballagh's reports on St Mary's and that he had been given the opportunity to read them; he had not previously seen them. He said that when he first read them a few months before giving evidence he was "a bit annoyed". Asked why he was annoyed, he said that he now realised that he had unknowingly been the subject of "heavy criticism". He added: "And I've always held and still hold Mrs [Ballagh] in high regard, even though she was very critical. And sometimes I feel that there may've been assumptions rather than foundation for criticisms." 1028 However, he immediately went on to add that "by and large I – I quite agreed with her reports" even though, as he acknowledged, they reflected "on [him] at times". In cross-examination it was put to him that these reports showed that "St Mary's wasn't up to standard" and he replied "that would be a true assumption" but he would not agree with the next proposition which was "that the institution was not good enough for the children". His response was to say that he read the reports as saying that "the institution needed to be brought up to a higher standard". I do not accept that explanation. The contents of reports on St Mary's that were compiled by Mrs Ballagh and other officers, most of which went unchallenged, were damning on the standards of the day. 1029 The adverse reports about St Mary's were directed to Mr Archer, the Administrator, who took it upon himself to visit the Hostel. He wrote the Director of Welfare on 16 October 1956 saying: "… I took the first opportunity (6th October) to visit this hostel personally; and I am left with an impression that these review reports, if anything, understated the position. I am in fact quite clear in my mind that the hostel is failing badly even in the discharge of its primary function, which is to provide some sort of institutional home for these children. As I see it, that is our first and most pressing concern; and the remedy lies in a change of staff; or more likely in a change of management." Captain Steep had not seen Mr Archer's memorandum prior to him giving evidence in these proceedings. Although he challenged some of the Administrator's conclusions, he was forced to concede that no changes of the type suggested by the Administrator were implemented. While Captain Steep was prepared to agree with the Administrator's sentiments of urgency, he saw it as a problem with staff – not a problem with management: he did not regard himself as incompetent. 1030 Captain Steep was shown copies of Mrs Ballagh's reports to the District Welfare Officer dated 16 November 1956 and dated 15 May 1957. Both were critical of Captain Steep. In the first of them, she wrote: "The Warden appears reluctant to refer matters concerning Wards to this Department and is desirous of making decisions appertaining to them himself without reference to the Superintendent or this office, feeling that this is his right as Warden." In the second of her reports Mrs Ballagh said: "The Warden has repeatedly been asked to advise this Branch of any difficulties experienced with the children, wards or non wards, as we are interested from a Welfare point of view but he still prefers to go his own way with subsequent disadvantage to the children." 1031 Captain Steep said of the first report that he did not know what Mrs Ballagh was talking about. He considered that he was in close contact with her; he did not recall her raising the subject with him and he thought, in respect of the second report that she might have been "a little bit hard on me". In the absence of Mrs Ballagh, it is not now possible to make meaningful findings on the contents of her reports save to say that they probably fairly and accurately reflected her views and her opinions. 1032 Dr Helen Phillips' report to her Director of Health dated 9 November 1956 also expressed some concerns; she referred to "lousy" heads, dirty underclothes, poor control over vaccination cards and infected sores. She felt that her inspection revealed a "lack of adequate supervision and control". Captain Steep bridled at the accusation of lack of supervision; he agreed that nits were often a problem but he said that the Doctor had inspected the children within a few days after their return from holidays; he said that when they returned from the camps the children "would come back all infested". He said that dirty underclothes could be explained because the children sat around in the dirt and those with sores were treated daily. As for medical records, he was very vague; he recognised the importance of maintaining health records but claimed that he could not now remember whether they were kept. As I have already indicated it seems to me that there was a clear case for finding that no such records were kept by St Mary's. I am sure that the Captain would have remembered such an important issue if those records had been maintained. 1033 Mrs Ballagh's report of 16 November 1956 to her District Welfare Officer reported that the "nits" problem was under control, but she then addressed the problem of trachoma, quoting an examining doctor, Dr Watsford, as reporting that 95 per cent of the children were infected. Captain Steep quibbled with that percentage, saying that it was only 75 per cent and that newspaper reports claimed that "most of the part Aboriginal children were suffering from trachoma". These incidents of poor health management are cause for concern. However, when one bears in mind that the reports concerned over sixty children throughout a number of years in a harsh climate with minimal facilities one must be careful before being too critical. An undated medical report bearing the signature of St Mary's nursing sister, Ms Whetham indicated that Peter Gunner's eyes had been treated for trachoma sometime in 1960. The report gave no indication of the nature of the treatment or the severity of the infection. Mr Gunner, for his part, had no memory of the event, suggesting that he has suffered no after effects. He was questioned about trachoma during his cross-examination. The relevant passage was as follows: "Right. Do you remember whilst you were at St Mary's having your eyes treated for trachoma? --- You're telling me that I had an eye test and I'm going blind? No, I'm just asking whether you remember getting any treatment for something to do with your eyes whilst you were at St Mary's. Do you remember getting eye drops? --- No. It's possible it happened but you just don't remember? --- It's not possibly. I don't recall if it ever did happen." The limited extend of this evidence was not sufficient to establish a breach of some duty by St Mary's Hostel. In particular, the evidence did not disclose how Mr Gunner's eyes became infected. 1034 The cumulative result of these reports is that in the latter half of 1956, Mrs Ballagh, a welfare officer, Mr McCoy the District Welfare Officer, Mr Giese the Director of Welfare and Mr Archer, the Administrator, were all expressing grave concerns about St Mary's Hostel and its staff and management. Yet, despite that, it was Captain Steep's evidence that he was "kept in the dark". He said that Mrs Ballagh told him orally of some of her concerns but neither the reports nor the contents of the reports were made known to him. I accept the truth of Captain Steep's statements; I allow for the explanation being that he, as Warden, was junior to Archdeacon Rogers who was the nominated Superintendent of St Mary's. Perhaps the contents of the reports were made known to the Archdeacon – but if they were, neither the original correspondence nor file copies from archives have been located. 1035 Captain Steep was entitled to much of the credit for the introduction of the cottage system to St Mary's. Despite his many drawbacks, Captain Steep did achieve that worthwhile goal. He said that he was opposed to the hostel or dormitory system for the care of children; he wanted to initiate a program for cottage homes. He considered that cottage homes would help people "to be integrated". He said that he requested funding for the building of cottages either in late 1956 or in 1957; funds were forthcoming for one cottage of four or five bedrooms which, so he said, was completed in 1958 and fully occupied with a house mother in 1959. He said: "It took a fair while but I – before I left I got the first one on the ground there." But, even though that change was generally regarded as being a most beneficial change, it did not protect Captain Steep from continued criticism about his running of St Mary's. Sister Eileen referred, as an example of her complaint, to the presence of two English sisters, Mrs Richardson and Miss Thompson, at St Mary's. They were visiting Australia on a working holiday and, in that capacity, they gave up a year of their time to St Mary's. Although much can be said of their generosity of spirit, they had no background in childcare. Sister Eileen agreed that relying on Mrs Richardson and Miss Thompson was "pretty unsatisfactory". Sister Eileen was quite satisfied with the staffing position in her time but her departure in 1955 was an occasion of some disquiet. Sister Eileen conceded that three members of staff resigned at or about the time that she left St Mary's, inviting the inference that there was some acrimony about the cause of her departure. 1036 Captain Steep said that it was very difficult to obtain staff for St Mary's. This was, in part, because of the living conditions and, in part, because of the low salary that was offered. He and his wife each received a salary of four pounds per week but even an offer of six pounds per week was not sufficient to attract suitable staff. He said that he and his wife inherited a long standing problem concerning staff; it was a problem that both the Church and the Welfare Branch recognised. For example, the Bishop of Carpentaria, Bishop Hudson, wrote Sister Eileen on 13 September 1955 saying: "If the Government is dissatisfied with the Church's management of St Mary's it could decide to withdraw its grant and either take over or close the Hostel. I am myself very far from satisfied with the Church's management of it and unless we can look to A.B.M. to send staff we may have to admit to our shame – that the Church is unable to manage it. I do not understand the A.B.M. Chairman's remarks to you that he is not responsible for the staffing of St. Mary's. Of course, he is not personally responsible but it is and must be the responsibility of A.B.M. I shall bring the matter before the full board of A.B.M. when it meets next month." A month later, on 6 October, Mr Richards, the District Welfare Officer at Alice Springs, wrote the Director, Mr Giese: "It appears to me that this Branch would be failing in its duty to these part-Aboriginal children if it did not take some action to press for rectification of the staffing position at St Mary's Hostel. I recommend that the present dangerous state of affairs be conveyed to the Church authorities." These concerns crystallised with the letter of 6 January 1956 from the Minister of Territories to the Bishop. 1037 That letter was the strongest piece of evidence dealing with the relationship between the Government and the institutions. St Mary's was within the Bishop's diocese and, although the staffing of the Hostel was the responsibility of the Australian Board of Missions, the Bishop was the party with whom ultimate responsibility rested. In considering the contents of the Minister's letter, it was interesting to note that while he threatened to withdraw funding, he recognised the right of the Church to appoint its own staff. The Minister's letter was as follows: "My Lord Bishop, Recently I received from His Honour the Acting Administrator of the Northern Territory a public petition from Alice Springs protesting against the situation that has arisen at St. Mary's Hostel regarding the replacement of Sister Eileen Heath. I am most concerned with the position at St. Mary's Hostel and would like to have your assurance that the arrangements contemplated by the Church will ensure that it is conducted satisfactorily. I would also be glad if you would inform me fully of your proposals for the staffing of this institution. I would like you to know, however, that so long as the institution is run by the Church of England the Government fully recognises the right of the Church to make its own staff appointments and does not seek to intervene in the selection or appointment of staff. However, the Government must be satisfied that the institution will be managed efficiently and that the staff is competent. The Government would not hesitate to take other steps for the care of the children and discontinuance of any financial aid should it not be completely satisfied on these matters. As St. Mary's Hostel has been declared an institution under the Aboriginal's (sic) Ordinance and operates under a licence issued by the Administrator, you will appreciate that the Director of Welfare has a legal responsibility for the general supervision and care over all matters affecting the welfare of the children including a responsibility to satisfy himself that the hostel is conducted on sound, efficient and economic lines. The Government also has a further responsibility to ensure the efficient management of the hostel because of its substantial financial contribution towards its capital cost and maintenance which totals approximately Ł30,000. I have been made aware, through the petition, of the general public dissatisfaction in Alice Springs at the proposed replacement of Sister Eileen Heath and as the goodwill and interest of the community is important to this successful functioning of an institution such as St. Mary's Hostel, the Government cannot help being concerned about the matter. I would like you, therefore, to discuss with officers of my Department the future development of the hostel as I feel that it may be attempting to perform too many functions and perhaps a clearer definition of its prime purpose may be desirable. As the services of Sister Eileen Heath are apparently no longer required by the Church and as the Administration places a high value on her experience and ability in the welfare field it is proposed to offer her an appointment in the Welfare Branch. I would be pleased, therefore, if you would confirm that her services are being terminated by the Church." 1038 The Bishop replied to the Minister's letter on 12 January 1956. His Lordship said that he would "welcome the opportunity of discussing the future development of the Hostel with officers of your Department"; he also said that he felt that "a clear definition" of the Hostel's prime purpose would be desirable. The balance of the letter consisted of an explanation that a policy decision had been made to have a married couple in charge at St Mary's and that as a result, having obtained the services of Captain and Mrs Steep, "it was necessary to ask Deaconess Heath to relinquish her position as Matron". The Bishop's letter acknowledged that there had been staffing difficulties but it did not otherwise address the matters that had been raised in the Minister's letter. Another likely reason for Sister Eileen leaving St Mary's was the appointment of Mr and Mrs Hueke to the staff of St Mary's; she had done that sometime about September 1955 on the advice of Mr Giese even though Archdeacon Rogers, as Superintendent of St Mary's, had earlier deemed them unsuitable for employment. That contretemps led to the Bishop of Carpentaria writing Sister Eileen on 13 September 1955 rebuking her, saying: "… it was unfortunate that, in the absence of Archdeacon Rogers, you should have been advised to act so hastily in engaging Mr and Mrs Hueke." 1039 When staff were recruited, it was usually attended to in one of the capital cities. In those cases, Captain Steep played no part in the selection process. As may be gathered from what has already been said, many of the staff at St Mary's were there on a voluntary basis because of their spiritual or missionary zeal rather than because they possessed the qualities and training of child carers. Occasionally, as an exception, there were cases of volunteers approaching Captain Steep direct and offering their services; in those cases it was his practice to discuss their offers with Archdeacon Rogers before accepting them. However, in none of those cases, was the offer of employment ever referred to the Welfare Branch for its approval. That last mentioned subject was criticised in Mrs Ballagh's report to the Director of Welfare dated 18 July 1956 where she wrote: "It would appear that the staff are selected by reason of their devotion to the Church rather than for their experience and training in the care and upbringing of young children …" Mrs Ballagh pursued this issue in her next report dated 24 August 1956 which was directed to the District Welfare Officer. She said: "… not one member of the staff of St Mary's has an understanding of the psychology of these young children in relation to society at large, or training or long experience in this type of work." 1040 Mrs Ballagh was still pursuing the subject of staff two years later. On 9 September 1958, she submitted a report to the Director of Welfare, claiming that "no progress has been made since a previous report made of this question dated July 1956". 1041 There were, throughout 1956, critical reports about the staffing situation at St Mary's from officers of the Welfare Branch. In one such report dated 24 August 1956, Mrs Ballagh criticised the two English sisters. Mrs Ballagh dismissively said of them (she herself being English): "Their approach and manner would be more suited to a college for young ladies in England." That section of her report was put to Captain Steep; he said that it was a reasonable assumption for Mrs Ballagh to have made and that while one of the women could not adapt, Mrs Ballagh was wrong about the other; she was, according to Captain Steep "a real gem". Mrs Ballagh later said in her report concerning the staffing situation: "The present situation at St Mary's is viewed with grave concern as the mishandling of young people can do irreparable damage." Captain Steep said that he agreed with that statement. 1042 This and other like reports caused Mr Giese to write Archdeacon Rogers on 7 September 1956 in which he said: "I am gravely concerned with the present position concerning the management of St Mary's … " When that letter was put to Captain Steep during his cross-examination, he agreed with its contents, saying that he "was as gravely concerned" as the Director. 1043 Mr Milliken said that he had visited St Mary's twice. The first occasion was in 1955 when he was first appointed to the Welfare Branch and he was undertaking an orientation tour in Alice Springs; Sister Eileen was then in charge of St Mary's. On the second occasion, Captain Steep was the Warden, as appeared from Mr Milliken's letter of 7 April 1956 to Mr McCoy. In that letter, as well as referring to his visit to St Mary's and the presence of Captain Steep, Mr Milliken wrote that he was preparing "the Review Report of St Mary's and a general statement on the training of part-coloured children". Apart from acknowledging his letter, Mr Milliken had little more to say about Captain Steep. On the other hand, Captain Steep remembered Mr Milliken fondly. He said that they met in 1956 (although he thought that it was in the latter part of the year) and they discussed at length the proposal that St Mary's switch from dormitories to the cottage system. Captain Steep also had some vague memories of later discussions with Mr Milliken about the cottage system but he did not elaborate further. Obviously his recollection of Mr Milliken was better than Mr Milliken's recollection of Captain Steep, but that was not an unusual circumstance after a gap of over forty years. 1044 The concerns continued with the Administrator writing to the Secretary of the Department of Territories on 18 April 1957 complaining that the staff at St Mary's were "too inexperienced and immature adequately to manage such a hostel". Despite Captain Steep's belief in his own ability and competency, it was clear that he did not enjoy universal support. His Lordship the Bishop wrote the Administrator on 2 June 1957. By that time Captain and Mrs Steep had had eighteen months within which to settle in and make St Mary's operational and efficient. The relevant section of the Bishop's letter read as follows: "I have been in contact with the Head of the Church Army with regard to the possible replacement of Captain and Mrs Steep by a more experienced couple …" Captain Steep was not aware of this letter and he became visibly upset as he read it in the witness box. 1045 Mrs Ballagh inspected St Mary's on Friday 15 August 1958 and submitted one of her few favourable reports to the Director of Welfare dated 9 September 1958. Paragraphs 4 to 8 of her report read as follows: "4. The general appearance of the grounds surrounding the Hostel was neat and tidy. Grass lawns surrounding the boys dormitory and an attempt at a garden which is maintained by the boys, has been made with advantage to the general appearance of that area. 5. An inspection of the kitchen and dining room was made and found to be in a clean and orderly condition. 6. An inspection of the boys and girls dormitories was also made and these were clean and tidy. Patterned curtains covering the shelves where the childrens clean clothes are kept added to the general appearance of the boys dormitory. A radio placed in the dormitories is well used by the children. 7. Part of the boys bathroom block has been partitioned off and made into a small rumpus room, the main attraction here being a fire on winter evenings. A small table tennis table provided here is seldom used. 8. The boys have been engaged in making the excavations required for the building of a swimming pool. Archdeacon Rogers stated that two pools would be made, one for the use of the girls exclusively as this arrangement would solve the problem of supervision." 1046 Mrs Ballagh's report was shown to Mr Constable, he having arrived at St Mary's a fortnight or so after her inspection. In particular, his attention was drawn to the contents of pars 4 to 8 of her report; he agreed that its description coincided with his memory of St Mary's at the time of his arrival. Mr Constable did not have a good relationship with Mrs Ballagh. He said "we tolerated one another". He claimed that he felt that Mrs Ballagh would have preferred her own staff, rather than the Church, to be running St Mary's. He disagreed with her in many respects. For example, she considered that the children were inadequately dressed; he disagreed with that. She considered that there should be changes to the children's diet; he disagreed with that also. Mrs Ballagh's report also referred to the construction of a new cottage home. Mr Constable said that the cottage, St Anne's, had been completed by the time of his arrival. Mr Constable explained that neither that report, nor any other report by Mrs Ballagh, was shown to him during his time at St Mary's. Both the swimming pool and the cottage were referred to in the annual report in respect of St Mary's Hostel for the financial year ending on 30 June 1959. The report said of the pool: "A swimming pool was completed. The entire excavation was done by the children, and the cementing was paid for from the money obtained from the sale of a crop of potatoes grown by the children and staff." As to the inauguration of the new cottage system, the report contained the following entry: "The first of the new cottages implementing the scheme for the conversion of the Hostel to the Cottage System was opened. It is occupied by a Housemother and ten children." 1047 Despite Captain Steep's kindly memories of Mrs Ballagh, she clearly did not reciprocate. She wrote of him in her report dated 20 October 1958 to the District Welfare Officer: "The Warden of St Mary's Hostel at the present time is so narrow in vision and self opinionated that he will not recognise the need for one of the basic principles of Social Welfare, to know and to cooperate with all agencies." Whether that criticism of Mrs Ballagh was justifiable cannot be determined. Captain Steep, not surprisingly, would not agree with her assessment and she is dead and so cannot prosecute her views. I can say, however, that Captain Steep did not present himself in the witness box as narrow-minded or self opinionated. As I have already said, there were times when he tended towards naivety and self-deprecation. That may, of course, be the result of forty or more year's experience or it might mean that Mrs Ballagh's assessments of his character and personality were not accurate. After all, there were suggestions from some of the witnesses that she was overly demanding in her standards. Once again, difficulties that arose as a result of the delay in the institution of these proceedings were most apparent. 1048 Mrs Ballagh submitted another report to the Director on 2 November 1960 as a result of her inspection of St Mary's on 21 October of that year. At that stage, Mr Bennier was the Warden and his wife, Mrs Lola Bennier, was the Matron. There were numerous areas of complaint in the report about the quality of St Mary's; Mrs Ballagh described the boys' dormitory as being in "a dilapidated state and beyond repair"; she was concerned about overcrowding in the younger girls' dormitory; she said that the mattresses were torn and "lumpy". She considered that the laundry facilities were "totally inadequate". These are just some of the matters upon which she commented. Nevertheless in her conclusion, she said of Mr and Mrs Bennier: "The Warden and his wife have done a remarkable job in the first year of their appointment in a field entirely new to them. My impression of this couple is that they are well balanced, deeply interested and happy in the work that they are trying to do." 1049 The premises of St Mary's were further inspected on 21 April 1961 by Mr Rider, a Commonwealth Health Inspector. Although he described the toilets and showers as "disgraceful" in his report dated 24 April, he nevertheless concluded his report by saying that the area "is very clean and I do consider that the place is a credit to the people responsible for the operation of the Hostel". A different Health Inspector, a Mr Mappis inspected St Mary's on 10 November 1961. By that stage, Mr and Mrs Bennier having resigned in May 1961, the positions of Warden and Matron were vacant. He said, in his report dated 17 November 1961 that "generally conditions were unsatisfactory". He described the boys' toilet as "insanitary"; he made several recommendations for improvements but Mr Constable acknowledged that none of them were carried out. Mr Mappis followed up his inspection of 10 November 1961 by further inspecting St Mary's on 23 and 29 November 1961. At that stage he described the dormitories and ablution blocks as satisfactory and said that there had been some improvement in the kitchen. 1050 The picture that Mrs Ballagh painted of St Mary's was one of futility; it lacked trained staff; its facilities were inadequate and in some cases, unhygienic; there was a lack of control over the children. In her undated report to the District Welfare Officer (which the parties agreed was prepared sometime late in 1961) she recounted the results of her inspection of St Mary's Hostel on 20 November 1961, that is, ten days after the Health Inspector, Mr Mappis had inspected them. In the first place, she noted that the positions of Warden and Matron were still vacant and had been vacant since Mr and Mrs Bennier resigned six months earlier in May of that year. She reported that since her inspection "last year" part of the dormitory for the older boys "has been pulled down and a very dilapidated structure remains". Coincidentally, the old dormitory and the ablution block that had been used by the senior boys at St Mary's Hostel had been completely destroyed by a wind storm on 11 December 1961. Her summary of the conditions at St Mary's was very severe. There was no flywire in the older boys' dormitory and "at night the boys are tormented by flying insects". She described the boys' shower and bathroom "as a crude corrugated iron shed with no means of any kind of privacy". The toilets for twenty-seven boys, as described by Mrs Ballagh, were shocking, not only on today's standards, but also on the standards of 1961. She said of them: "One toilet with two aperture seats side by side. No cover for the holes. System described by Mr Constable as a sludge pit. (no water flushing)." Mr Constable agreed that he had said this to Mrs Ballagh. Her description of the urinal was just as bad: "very crude and most unhygienic. [C]ould be smelled 10 ft away". 1051 Mrs Ballagh concluded her report in 1961 by saying: "The present situation at St Mary's Hostel without a resident Warden and Matron to lead and direct untrained staff, is a serious matter and has resulted in the lowering of standards of behaviour of the children, and the general appearance of kitchen, dining and laundry areas." 1052 She recommended that the Australian Board of Missions be pressed to release Archdeacon Bott and his wife to take up duty as the resident Superintendent and Matron. The contents of this report were put to a variety of witnesses for the Commonwealth including Mr Vincent, Mr Lovegrove, Mr Milliken, Mr Penhall as well as to Captain Steep and Mr Constable. None of them was prepared to challenge the accuracy and the reasonability of Mrs Ballagh's comments. But the contents of Mrs Ballagh's report is difficult to reconcile with the report of the Health Inspector, Mr Mappis. There is the possibility, as Mr Lovegrove suggested, that Mrs Ballagh was overly critical and expected too much of St Mary's. Captain Steep said that there were covers for the toilets in his time but he still agreed that the urinals were primitive and that the position was not satisfactory. Mr Penhall said that he did not have any personal knowledge of the circumstances but he agreed that it would be a disgusting state of affairs. Messrs Vincent, Lovegrove and Milliken, all agreed that the picture painted by Mrs Ballagh was unsatisfactory. 1053 Mr Lovegrove said that when he was stationed in Alice Springs in the early 1950s, St Mary's enjoyed a good reputation. Mr Lovegrove was there referring to the period of time when Sister Eileen Heath was in charge at the Hostel. However, Mr Lovegrove's evidence about the quality of St Mary's was vague and general. All he could say was that it seemed to him to be "a reasonable place". When he was asked to look at Mrs Ballagh's highly critical report of December 1961 he agreed that the conditions upon which Mrs Ballagh reported were not satisfactory. 1054 Mr Vincent said that, although he visited Alice Springs three or four times a year, and although he attended at St Mary's from time to time during those visits, he was unable to recollect much detail. He explained that it was his practice to spend more of his time in discussions with Archdeacon Bott and members of the staff of the Welfare Branch. He nevertheless agreed that, in 1958 when he commenced with the Branch, the buildings were inadequate and that they remained inadequate throughout his time in the Territory. He attempted to summarise his memories of St Mary's by saying: "Generally speaking, as I recall the situation, it was fairly satisfactory, with some need for building extension and development." Mr Vincent's memory let him down. His recollection is grossly at odds with Mrs Ballagh's reports and the reports of others. I cannot accept what Mr Vincent said on this subject. 1055 Mr Gubbins said that he knew of St Mary's Hostel; he knew that it was a Hostel for part Aboriginal children and that they resided there while attending school in the town. He also agreed that he was aware that the Native Affairs Branch made a distinction between Aboriginal people and part Aboriginal people. However, he was not aware of any policy of the Branch that related specifically to the activities of part Aboriginal children, nor of the circumstances under which those children were received into institutions such as St Mary's. 1056 The conditions at St Mary's did not improve; even Archdeacon Bott was recorded as having made written complaints about the subject. On 21 August 1962, he wrote the Director of Welfare seeking permission to make a revision of St Mary's budget for a capital subsidy. Complaining about a lack of cooperation from the Administration, he wrote: "The prolonged silence regarding this cottage is nothing short of criminal when our children and staff have to live in stinking slum conditions." 1057 The shocking reports that Mrs Ballagh filed about St Mary's were principally directed towards the quality of the buildings and matters of hygiene in and about the latrines and ablution blocks. There were lesser, but nevertheless worrying, criticisms about hygiene in the kitchen and eating areas. She noted some complaints about the quality of the food that the Hostel provided but, generally, it could be said that she was not greatly critical of the food and clothing that were supplied to the children. There were however, serious complaints about the children's state of health and personal hygiene, particularly the presence of trachoma which was, as Captain Steep said "all over the Territory". 1058 Miss Malcolm and Mr McCoy submitted a joint report to the Director of Welfare following a visit that they made to St Mary's on 15 October 1962 in company with Mr Reg Worthy. The authors express the view that there was "a general air of disinterest and neglect". They wrote: "All buildings and surrounds of the institute were inspected. It was particularly noted that the dining room and kitchen were very heavily infested with flies and that the general appearance left much to be desired. A stagnant pool of water was seen at the rear of the kitchen and collapsed drains and covers were also observed. On Wednesday, 17th October a further visit was made to St. Mary's Hostel by the District Welfare Officer, accompanied by the Health Inspector, Mr Mappas, Department of Health. The kitchen and dining room were found to be still infested with flies, with many dead flies on the floor adjacent to a 'Flick' fly-cake contained in a saucer. Particles of food were observed on the floor of the dining room. The edges of the dining room tables had particles of dried-up food adhering to the surfaces. The table on which the bread-cutting machine was installed was littered with dried crumbs and dried up bread slices. The dining room refrigerator was found to be in need of a thorough cleaning and that some articles of food, especially a saucer containing butter with hair and dried crumbs in it, were serving no useful purpose by being in the refrigerator. The two-compartment refrigerator in the kitchen – not operating – in which some milk was stored and other items of food also required a thorough cleaning to make it presentable. All cupboards surrounding the kitchen were opened, and revealed that little or no attention was being given to keeping shelving clean, especially the lower shelf which was littered with all kinds of equipment and presented a very dirty and untidy appearance. The kitchen stove showed food stains, which could easily have been wiped off with a damp cloth, indicating neglect. The large walk-in refrigerator recently supplied and contained in an annex to the kitchen, was also in a dirty condition and needed a thorough cleaning. The whole of the dining room, kitchen and annex were infested with flies which constituted a danger to the health and well being of the inmates of the institution. Drains, with fractured covers, were found to be infested with mosquitoes that were breeding in large numbers. Crows feet drains had holes in them caused by earth subsiding and this also provided breeding places for mosquitoes in large numbers, which emerged when disturbed." 1059 Mr Worthy was shown Mr McCoy's report during the course of his evidence in chief. He described it as "generous" saying that he was "horrified" by what he saw. He went on to say that as a result of what he saw, he instructed the Assistant Director Southern Division to arrange for welfare officers to make more regular visits to St Mary's. 1060 Miss Malcolm inspected St Mary's Hostel again on 25 October 1962. She considered that there was "a general air of shabbiness and neglect about the place". In a later report to the District Welfare Officer, dated 21 November 1962, Miss Malcolm commenced by saying: "The usual fortnightly visit was made to St Mary's Hostel, Thursday 8th November, 1962…" An interesting feature of this report was the summary of the conversations that Miss Malcolm had with some of the girls concerning their personal problems, thereby indicating a measure of interest by the Welfare Branch in the children. Miss Malcolm's report of 21 December 1962, following upon her visit to St Mary's on 26 November and 6 December 1962, followed a familiar pattern. Under the heading of "General Remarks" she had this to say: "(a) The general appearance of St Mary's Hostel is shabby, neglected and dismal. The buildings need painting, both inside and out and this would brighten up the place considerably. (b) Attention needs to be paid to showers and toilets. On almost all visits made to the Hostel these have been wet and there has been an offensive smell. Paintwork is dirty and the there does not appear to have been any attempt made to clean this over the last three months. There is not apparently, any system of regular cleaning in operation at the Hostel. (c) The need for both a Handyman and a Matron to ensure that St Mary's Hostel is run efficiently and kept in good order is again stressed. Little improvement can take place in the running of the Hostel unless there is overall and efficient supervision of staff." 1061 Miss Malcolm was not available to give evidence; she could not be located. Most persons who had some connection with either the Retta Dixon Home or St Mary's Hostel had been located by one or other of the parties – or their deaths had been ascertained; but Miss Malcolm was an exception. Her whereabouts were unknown. 1062 When Mr Creed Lovegrove returned to Alice Springs as District Welfare Officer in 1963, Mrs Ballagh was answerable to him but, more so to Mr Reg Worthy who was the senior or chief social worker in Darwin. Mr Lovegrove was asked to give his opinion of her. He said that he liked her; that she was a good welfare officer but that she was "very proper" and "probably finicky about a lot of things that other people may not have worried about too much". I did not take that mild reproach to mean that I should disregard the many criticisms that Mrs Ballagh had made of St Mary's; rather, I should remind myself that she set higher standards than most people. Mr Vincent regarded Mrs Ballagh as "quite thorough and felt confident in what she was doing". He added that he did not perceive that she would have had any difficulties in talking with the staff at St Mary's but bigger questions of buildings and finance would have been outside her control. 1063 Another report by Mrs Ballagh, based on a visit to St Mary's on 5 April 1963 noted that the Home did not have any records and that Archdeacon Bott, who was then the Superintendent, was not able to supply her with a list of the children who were residing at the Hostel. Mr Penhall said that he was not aware that the Hostel did not maintain records. By that time, Peter Gunner had left the home. Although she thought that the "floor space [was] over-all cleaner than I had ever seen them", and that the "boys are being well catered for", Mrs Ballagh was still able to be severely critical of the conditions. She complained that the toilet block had not been cleaned and a "foul smell" came from the kitchen drain. Mrs Ballagh was able to report that on her next visit on 24 April 1963, remedial work had been carried out and the smell was no longer present. Mrs Ballagh concluded her report on St Mary's by saying that it reminded her "of the Poor Law Institutions of many years ago". That description was put to Mr Penhall in cross-examination and he agreed with it. 1064 Mrs Ballagh presented another report dated 5 June 1963 on St Mary's as a result of her inspections on 27 May 1963. She described the staffing arrangements as "entirely unsatisfactory"; she wrote that the children were required to wear "ragged or dirty play clothes". She submitted that: "No children should be admitted to St Mary's Hostel by this Branch from the present time until arrangements for management and staffing of the Hostel are considered satisfactory by the senior officers of this Branch." One such senior officer would have been Mr Penhall, but when this report was shown to him he could only say that he assumed that he would have become aware of it. He could not recall doing anything about the staffing situation at St Mary's. There was no evidence to point to any action having been taken by the Welfare Branch as a consequence of Mrs Ballagh's recommendation. 1065 During the course of his cross-examination, Mr Milliken was shown copies of some of the reports on St Mary's by various welfare officers. First, there was Mr Giese's letter to Archdeacon Rogers dated 7 September 1956 where he expressed his grave concern about "the management of St Mary's". Then there was the Administrator's report of 16 October 1956 where the Administrator wrote that the Hostel was "failing badly" to discharge its primary function of providing "some sort of institutional home for these children". The third report was that from Mr McCoy dated 25 October 1956 to the Director in which he reported Dr Helen Phillips' concerns about the quality of the children's clothing. Mr Milliken agreed with the cross-examiner that these were "very strong words"; he also agreed that he would not want to place children in an institution such as that covered by those reports. 1066 For the purposes of these proceedings, Mr Milliken had read the reports on St Mary's that had been prepared by Mrs Ballagh and others. He also gave brief evidence of his knowledge of other institutions that he had visited as a visiting psychologist in Queensland prior to 1953. He did not think that St Mary's was "any different generally". He also thought that Mrs Ballagh was, in some areas unnecessarily critical. In all cases, except this one, I am happy to accept the evidence that Mr Milliken gave and the opinions that he expressed. His memory of events so long ago was quite remarkable and he was very persuasive in presenting his opinions. I cannot however share his views about the physical conditions at St Mary's; they were unsatisfactory on today's standards and they were unsatisfactory on the standards of the day. Even if Mrs Ballagh was unduly demanding, which was the view of some witnesses, due allowance for that factor does not erode away her references to unsanitary conditions that occurred all too often. 1067 Captain Steep was aware of the strict attitude of the Welfare Branch to corporal punishment; as he described it, the attitude of the Branch was that corporal punishment was only to be used in extreme cases. This section of Captain Steep's evidence arose as a result of a report dated 6 October 1958 from Mrs Ballagh to the District Welfare Officer. It recounted a visit that the Captain had made to Mrs Ballagh to inform her that he had administered corporal punishment to a girl, Norma, aged fourteen. Apparently, Norma had been rebellious and Captain Steep "had taken disciplinary action … by beating her on her seat and he thought she would not sit down for a week". Captain Steep agreed that this was a fair summary of what he had said but he denied a later extract in the report that the girl was marked on the buttocks. Mrs Ballagh reported that this fact had indicated to her that "Captain Steep had lost his temper"; the Captain also denied that allegation. As Mrs Ballagh had not seen Norma, and was only recording what she had been told, in light of Captain Steep's denial, I am not prepared to make a finding that the beating was so severe that it marked the girl's buttocks. The question of the punishment to Norma was taken up by Mr Ted Evans. At that stage, he was the Chief Welfare Officer in Darwin. In a letter dated 7 October 1958, he wrote the District Welfare Officer in Alice Springs suggesting that the District Welfare Officer endeavour to have St Mary's keep a "Register of Corporal Punishment". He also suggested that a regime be implemented whereby corporal punishment "of a severe nature" be administered only with the consent of the District Welfare Officer and in the presence of a welfare officer. Although nothing came of these recommendations, they were strong indicators of the extent of the involvement of the Welfare Branch in matters pertaining to the welfare of the children. 1068 Captain Steep said that "we very seldom ever had to exercise any discipline that was hurtful to the children". He added that "by and large the children were very obedient". He told of two occasions only when he recalled administering corporal punishment: once was to a boy who had been fighting and once was to the girl Norma, who, according to Captain Steep's version of events, had behaved outrageously. The episode involving Norma showed, incidentally, that she or someone on her behalf knew that the Welfare Branch was interested in the welfare of the children and that it was a body to whom the children could look to for some sort of protection. Captain Steep said that he was aware that the Welfare Branch was of the opinion that corporal punishment "was only to be used in extreme cases", that a record of the punishment should be maintained by the Hostel and that the Branch should be advised whenever corporal punishment was administered. The Captain said that he never observed the use of a rubber hose as a weapon of punishment. Mrs Steep also claimed that she never saw a rubber hose used. Captain Steep said that he knew of its presence: "I can recall it sitting on a window sill near the girls dormitory." But, so he said, "I can't remember it even being used". I have difficulty in accepting this evidence; why would Captain Steep have a specific awareness of such a mundane item as a piece of garden hose unless he knew that it served some special purpose – such as inflicting punishment? Captain Steep's evidence is also difficult to reconcile with the contents of Mrs Ballagh's report of 15 August 1957. She was summarising the results of her inquiries into an incident in which Mr Bald had been accused of administering corporal punishment to one of the older St Mary's girls. Mrs Ballagh wrote: "On being informed that the girl had stated that she had been thrashed with a piece of garden hose, Mr Bald said that if she disobeyed again he would again thrash her with the same instrument. Mr Bald was told that in future he was not under any circumstances to lay hands on [the girl]." Captain Steep said that until he read a copy of this report he had been under the impression that Mr Bald had smacked the girl with his hand. Mr Giese replied to Mrs Ballagh's report on 21 August 1957. After expressing his concern, he wrote: "In the circumstances however where I have at present no legal responsibility for these children there is little that we can do, beyond pointing out both to Archdeacon Rogers and to Mr Bald that we consider such action is undesirable and suggest to them that before such drastic action is taken in the future they should enlist our support to deal with the particular case." 1069 As Ms Beaton-Wells said, during the course of her final submissions on the subjects of Mr Gunner and St Mary's, the inability of Mr Giese to give evidence meant that the Court could not find out what he meant by his statement "I have at present no legal responsibility for these children". 1070 Mrs Ballagh submitted a report to the District Welfare Officer dated 25 June 1962. It stated that the mother of a young girl had brought the girl to the Welfare Office complaining that corporal punishment had been administered to the girl by Mr Kevin Constable using a piece of rubber hose. Mrs Ballagh reported that: "The girl had six red weals across her hips." 1071 Mr Constable denied any involvement. He said that he did administer corporal punishment, but that he was not the only member of the staff to do so. He allowed for the possibility that it could have been one of the other men on the staff of the Hostel. 1072 Mr Vincent could not recall a punishment regime at St Mary's; nor could he recall receiving any complaints about corporal punishment. Rather, he described it as "generally accepted in the Australian community as a way of discipline … the cane was used in schools". Asked whether the Branch had a policy about the administering of corporal punishment to children in missions he replied: "I doubt if we'd set a policy for the missions. The missions would be administering their homes in accord with whatever was in those days the accepted type of administration within such homes, here and elsewhere." 1073 The evidence of Mr Gunner and others of children searching for food in rubbish bins and dumps, the lack of social contact with children outside the Hostel, the failure to return him to his family during school holidays, the shocking conditions of the Hostel as depicted in the reports from Mrs Ballagh and others, the quality of its staff and the conduct of Mr Constable add up to a damning indictment of St Mary's. The documents that were received into evidence were sufficient; they revealed a failure on the part of St Mary's to staff and administer the Hostel appropriately. St Mary's failed in its management and its care for the children; it also failed in that it did not provide proper and adequate facilities based on the standards of the day. What it provided may have been better than that available for the part Aboriginal children in native camps. But that was not the test. St Mary's was offering those children the opportunity to enter European society and to learn European standards. A spartan existence for the children might have been acceptable and understandable. Lack of hygiene was not. 1074 In the Commonwealth's written submissions in reply, it was claimed that there were a number of matters concerning the conditions at and the treatment of the children at St Mary's Hostel that had initially been the subject of complaint which were not referred to in the final submissions that were made on behalf of Mr Gunner. Some of the more important matters were as follows: · the allegation that children were consistently denied proper or appropriate medical services; · the allegation that Mr Gunner was forced to dig out the swimming pool by Mr Constable at night for hours on end; · the allegation that Mr Gunner was flogged for trivial reasons, such as speaking his Aboriginal language; using his fingers to eat his food, putting food in his pocket, sleeping on the floor rather than in his bed and for wetting his bed; and · the allegation that Mr Gunner was flogged by being made to bend over a table and being struck on the bare buttocks anywhere up to thirty-five times. 1075 Counsel for the Commonwealth submitted that, because these matters were not addressed by counsel for Mr Gunner during the course of his final submissions, the Court should regard them as having been abandoned. I do not consider that would be appropriate; they were each the subject of evidence and it is for the Court to evaluate the evidence that was presented during the trial. In any event, there are numerous reasons why counsel in a trial of this length may have overlooked mentioning some matters. However, on this occasion I do not think that it is a matter for great concern for, in my opinion the evidence would not justify the Court making most of the findings that were sought. There was sporadic evidence of a few occasions when a child (not Mr Gunner) did not receive appropriate medical services but that evidence was not sufficient to substantiate a finding that the children were consistently or regularly denied appropriate medical services. As for the swimming pool, I can only say that it was a wonderful achievement. The children would have been justly proud of their work. It would have been hard, but it would have been worthwhile. In all the gloom that surrounded St Mary's, the swimming pool stands out as a practical example of how children can be taught, through experience, the benefits that can be achieved through their own efforts. I have discussed the use of the word "flogging" and the subject of corporal punishment when considering the circumstances of Mrs Cubillo and the Retta Dixon Home. I do not think that I can usefully add to those remarks. Like Retta Dixon, I am satisfied that severe corporal punishment was administered at St Mary's but I cannot make a finding that it was excessive on the standards of the day. I am prepared to accept that punishment might have been meted out to Mr Gunner for using his fingers to eat his food and the other subjects that have been mentioned but I can do no more than distance today's generation from the use of corporal punishment for such trivial matters. I cannot convert them into causes of action at law. Mr Gunner's evidence about being beaten thirty-five times or thereabouts on his bare buttocks was too unreliable; I could not accept the detail of his evidence on that particular issue. Causes of Action 1076 I set out hereunder, in abbreviated form, the four causes of action as pleaded in Mrs Cubillo's further amended statement of claim. There are differences in Mr Gunner's further amended statement of claim, brought about by the need to refer to the provisions of the Welfare Ordinance. Save for that variation however, his pleadings virtually mirror those of Mrs Cubillo and I think that it will be sufficient to limit my comments to the causes of action as pleaded by Mrs Cubillo. 1077 In par 29 of her further amended statement of claim, Mrs Cubillo alleged that her removal and detention by the Director of Native Affairs constituted wrongful imprisonment and deprivation of liberty. In par 31A she pleaded: "Further or in the alternative to its vicarious liability for the conduct of the Director of Native Affairs referred to in paragraphs 29 to 31, the Commonwealth actively promoted and caused the imprisonment of the Applicant." 1078 The next cause of action to mention is that of fiduciary duty. In par 36D of her further amended statement of claim Mrs Cubillo alleged that the Commonwealth, in removing and detaining her, acted in breach of fiduciary duties that it owed to her, whilst in par 40 she alleged that it was the Director of Native Affairs who removed and detained her and that he, in so doing, acted in breach of fiduciary duties that he owed to her. She also pleaded in par 40A that the Commonwealth knowingly participated in the Director's breaches of his fiduciary duties. 1079 In par 36 of her further amended statement of claim, Mrs Cubillo alleged that her removal and detention was in breach of a statutory duty that the Director of Native Affairs owed to her pursuant to the provisions of pars 5(1)(d) and (f) of the Aboriginals Ordinance. That allegation was withdrawn however and replaced with a plea that the breach of statutory duty arose as a consequence of the Director being her statutory guardian. 1080 The last of the four causes of action was the allegation of a breach of a duty of care. In par 42 of her further amended statement of claim, Mrs Cubillo alleged that her removal and detention was in breach of a duty of care that the Commonwealth owed to her. Unlike the other causes of action, she did not allege the existence of, or a breach of, a duty of care on the part of the Director of Native Affairs. She did however plead in par 34 of her further amended statement of claim that her removal and detention was in breach of the duty owed to her by the Director of Native Affairs in his capacity as her statutory guardian. This was not a separate cause of action; her counsel explained that the existence of the relationship of guardian and ward was pleaded so that its existence would be the subject of consideration when considering allegations of breaches of statutory and fiduciary duties and breaches of the general duty of care. 1081 The recitation of the causes of action so far set out show that in some only of the cases does the issue of vicarious liability arise. However there is a general plea in subpar 8(e) of Mrs Cubillo's further amended statement of claim in which the issue of vicarious liability is addressed. It was pleaded in these terms: (e) The Director of Native Affairs was an officer of the [Commonwealth] and acted for and on behalf of the [Commonwealth] in relation to – (i) the exercise of his powers and the discharge of his duties and functions under the Aboriginals Ordinance and the Regulations made thereunder; and (ii) the matters described in paragraphs 1 and 29-42 hereof inclusive." Paragraphs 29 to 42 include each of the four causes of action. The plea in subpar 8(e) then continued: "Particulars of vicarious liability (a) The Applicant refers to subparagraphs 8(b) and (d) above. (b) The Director of Native Affairs was employed and paid by the [Commonwealth]. (c) The Director of Native Affairs exercised powers and discharged duties under the supervision and control of the [Commonwealth]." 1082 In subpar 8(b) it was pleaded that the Director of Native Affairs was appointed and held office pursuant to s 4 of the Aboriginals Ordinance and that he had the powers, functions and duties as set out in ss 5, 6, 7 and 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance. In par 8(d) it was alleged that one of the Director's powers as contained in s 4 of the Aboriginals Ordinance was a power of delegation of his powers and functions. The pleadings are difficult to follow but I think that it is reasonable to say that each of the four causes of action were pleaded against the Commonwealth. It was either a direct plea or a plea that the Commonwealth was vicariously liable for the conduct of the Director or a plea that the Commonwealth knowingly participated in or promoted some breach of some duty. I will start with a consideration of the issue of vicarious liability. Vicarious Liability 1083 The applicants have maintained that the Commonwealth is liable for the acts and omissions of its employees and officers in the course of their employment. That principal assertion is, for the purpose of these proceedings, limited in its application to acts and omissions that related to Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people in the Northern Territory in the 1940s to the early 1960s. They have claimed that there was a chain of command flowing from the Minister in Canberra through the Administrator of the Northern Territory to the Director of Native Affairs and later to the Director of Welfare. Because of this chain of command, which, so they say, was part of a statutory scheme, the applicants have submitted that the Commonwealth controlled the administration of Aboriginal affairs in the Territory as part of its ordinary Governmental functions. 1084 The applicants' analysis of the statutory scheme started with s 4 of the Northern Territory (Administration) Act 1910, subs (2) of which made it clear that the Administrator was to exercise his powers and functions "according to such instructions as are given to him by the minister". The Director's appointment came from the Administrator under the 1918 Ordinance but from the Minister under the Welfare Ordinance. I do not regard that difference as important for the Director's appointment under the 1918 Ordinance can still be traced back to the Minister because of the Minister's control over the Administrator. In both Ordinances the respective Directors were identified as the party responsible for the administration of the Ordinance but in both Ordinances the Director was said to be "under the Administrator". In my opinion, there was no magic in that expression "under the Administrator". It should be given its ordinary, every day meaning. Although s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance nominated the Director as the individual who was required to form the relevant opinion, the Director was, nevertheless, to carry out his duties and perform his functions in accordance with the lawful directions of, and under the supervision and control of, the Administrator. Subject to what follows, those words point to the Administrator being in a position of control over the Director. The qualification to that statement is the language of s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance which gave power to the Director to undertake the care, custody or control of a part Aboriginal child in those cases where, in the opinion of the Director, it was necessary or desirable in the interests of the part Aboriginal child to do so. That opinion had to be the opinion of the Director; it was not the opinion of the Administrator, nor was it the opinion of the Minister. As a matter of law, that meant that the Director would have been able to act, on the basis of his opinion, in a manner that was contrary to the express instruction of the Administrator or the Minister. In particular, it would mean that, notwithstanding the existence of some policy, guideline or direction to the contrary, the Ordinance would not permit the Director to remove and detain a child unless he had first come to the decision that it was necessary or desirable in the interests of the child to do so. 1085 Save for the formation of his opinion as required by s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance, the words "under the Administrator" must be taken to mean what they say: they conveyed a clear legislative intention that the Director was to be subject to the control of the Commonwealth through the Administrator, in the performance of his functions. But what of the formulation of an opinion as required by s 6? The applicants argued that the evidence showed the lack of independence of the Director and other Commonwealth employees and the subservient role of the Director to the Administrator and the Minister. I will take that submission in two parts. First, I will consider it in relation to Mr Moy, as he was the Director when Lorna Nelson was removed. Then I will consider it in relation to Mr Giese who was the Director when Peter Gunner was removed. Before doing that however, it is necessary to look at the law on the subject. 1086 As recorded in the interlocutory judgment, counsel for the Commonwealth, during the course of his submissions, stated that his client was prepared to concede that the Director of Native Affairs and the Director of Welfare were members of the Commonwealth Public Service; that was the limit of the concession however. Fullagar J in Waters v The Commonwealth at 194-196 made the issue clearer; he regarded the Director of Native Affairs as an officer of the Commonwealth. I respectfully follow his Honour's finding. It was not disputed that patrol officers, welfare officers and other employees of the Native Affairs Branch and the Welfare Branch were all employees of the Commonwealth. However, the Commonwealth maintained that the powers that were vested in all Directors were statutory powers to be enforced by the nominated statutory officers; it would not concede that there was any vesting of power in the Commonwealth. I am satisfied that each of the relevant Directors was a member of the Commonwealth Public Service and an officer of the Commonwealth. 1087 What is in issue is whether the Commonwealth carries a vicarious liability for their acts or omissions. There are, in my view, two important issues that have to be determined in this aspect of the case. The first is determining the status of the Directors under the Aboriginals Ordinance and, subsequently, the Welfare Ordinance. The second, dependent upon the first, is whether the Commonwealth was, in fact, vicariously liable for their acts and omissions. 1088 The basic principle in tort law is that an employer is liable for the damage caused by the negligent acts or omissions of its servants when they are acting within the scope of their employment. The Commonwealth of Australia as an employer is open to claims of vicarious liability in relation to acts committed by a servant or employee in the course of his or her employment. Accordingly, the Commonwealth will be vicariously liable where the Crown employee was acting within the de facto authority of the Crown: James v Commonwealth (1939) 62 CLR 339 at 359-360 and where the employee was impliedly authorised to commit the particular tortious act: Racz v Home Office [1994] 2 AC 45 at 50-54. However, the Commonwealth will not be vicariously liable if the law charged an employee with a discretion and a responsibility in the execution of an independent legal duty. This is commonly referred to as the independent discretion rule. Before turning specifically to the issue of vicarious liability in this case it is necessary to examine, albeit briefly, the origins and development of that rule. 1089 The independent discretion rule is one that has developed in public law in the context of vicarious liability in tort. The basic idea behind this rule is that, if powers are conferred by law directly upon an employee, such a person is considered to be executing an independent discretion or original authority for the consequences of which the employer is not vicariously responsible. Of course, the corollary of this rule is that the individual officer may bear a personal liability: Baume v Commonwealth (1906) 4 CLR 97 at 110-111. There are two main authorities usually cited in support of the principle: Enever v R (1906) 3 CLR 969 ("Enever"); and Oceanic Crest Shipping Company v Pilbara Harbour Services Pty Ltd (1986) 160 CLR 626 ("Oceanic Crest"). 1090 Enever was an action that was brought by the appellant against the Crown as represented by the Executive Government of Tasmania, for damages sustained by him in consequence of his wrongful arrest by a constable of the Tasmanian police force. In effect, damages were sought for assault and wrongful imprisonment. The critical section under which the constable had acted was s 197 of the Police Act 1865 (Tas). It provided that a constable "may take into custody without warrant and forthwith take before a justice any person who within his view commits" any of a number of listed offences or disturbs the peace. 1091 The appellant succeeded against the Tasmanian Government in obtaining a verdict from the jury in the trial. The trial judge, however, stated a case for the opinion of the Full Court. The question was whether in effecting the arrest of the appellant in a public street for a breach of the peace, the constable was or was not acting as an "officer, servant or agent" of the Government within the meaning of s 4 of the Crown Redress Act 1891 (Tas). That section provided inter alia: "Any person having or deeming himself to have any just claim against Her Majesty … in respect of any act or omission, neglect or default, of any officer, servant or agent of the Government of Tasmania … may file … a Supplication setting forth the particulars of such Claim … ." It was not disputed that the constable was personally liable – rather, what was in issue was whether the Government was also liable for the act of arrest. The Full Court, by a majority, held that the constable, in effecting the arrest, was not acting as an officer, servant or agent so as to make the Crown liable. 1092 The High Court agreed with the decision of the majority of the Full Court. As a result of the decision of the High Court, a number of issues can be identified; they include the reliance on other contemporaneous decisions; the nature of the office of constable; the absence of control by the Government; and finally the powers exercised by virtue of the office or position of constable. Beginning with the reliance placed on cases in the United Kingdom, I take each of those in turn. 1093 The foundation of all the judgments in Enever was in a small part, Stanbury v Exeter Corporation (1905) 2 KB 838, but, more importantly, Tobin v The Queen (1864) 143 ER 1148 ("Tobin"). The principle extrapolated from Tobin by Griffiths CJ was that of Crown immunity from liability for torts committed by Crown servants in the supposed performance of a duty imposed upon them by an Act of Parliament. Tobin involved an action against the Crown for loss sustained by reason of the wrong seizure of a vessel by the commander of a ship that was employed in the suppression of the slave trade. It was held, first, that the commander, in seizing the vessel, was not acting in obedience to a command of Her Majesty, but in the supposed performance of a duty imposed upon him by an Act of Parliament. Secondly, if he were an agent employed by the Crown, he was not acting within the scope of his authority in seizing a ship that was not engaged in the slave trade – he was on a frolic of his own, acting beyond authority. In Tobin, a distinction was made between a servant of the Crown and a person holding a public office and exercising his powers by virtue of his office. That distinction was adopted and applied in Enever. 1094 In Stanbury v Exeter Corporation, an action was brought against the corporation for the negligence of an inspector who, acting under the Diseases of Animals Act 1894 (UK), seized and detained sheep suspected of sheep-scab. It was held that the corporation was not liable. The inspector was performing a function imposed directly upon him by statute; it was a function that was, for him, and not the corporation, to perform. 1095 In making its decision in Enever, it was necessary for the Court to consider the nature of the office of constable and what, according to the law of Tasmania, was the nature of the relationship between a constable and the Executive Government by whom he was appointed. The Court said the matter was not simply whether the constable was a servant of the Crown in a "general sense", but whether he came within the meaning of s 4 of the Crown Redress Act. The judges in reaching their conclusion, read into the legislation the requirement that, in so acting, the constable had to be performing a function which made him a servant of the Crown. Pragmatically, that meant a finding that the constable was not acting as a servant because there was no master/servant relationship between him and the Government when he was acting as a public officer exercising a statutory duty: at 993 per O'Connor J. 1096 O'Connor J relied on Tobin as authority for the proposition that the liability of a master for the act of his servant attaches in the case where the will of the master directs both the act to be done and the agent who is to do it. He considered the fact that the constable was endowed with the authority to arrest by virtue of s 182 of the Police Act. Prior to the Police Regulation Act 1898 municipalities appointed constables and, on the authority of Stanbury v Exeter Corporation, a municipality was not liable for the acts of officers when they were performing statutory duties. O'Connor J could see no difference when, after 1898, the Government of Tasmania employed all police officers in the State: at 992. He cited Tobin again: "when the duty to be performed is imposed by law, and not by will of the party employing the agent, the employer is not liable for the wrong done by the agent in such employment": at 993. Griffith CJ said that a constable "when acting as a peace officer, is not exercising a delegated authority, but an original authority, and the general law of agency has no application": at 977. The basis of the decision was that the constable was not an agent or employee of the appointor – he had an original, not a delegated, authority. 1097 All three judges in Enever reached their conclusions by relying on the absence of control by the Government, meaning "Executive Government" over the activities of the police constable: per O'Connor J at 989 and Barton J at 982. O'Connor J emphasised the Government's traditional immunity in relation to such claims while Barton J and Griffith CJ elaborated upon the source of the constable's powers. Barton J said that control was absent because the police officer was "a person who is obeying or endeavouring to obey the authority of an Act of Parliament" and therefore was not "so under the control of the State as to render the State responsible": at 982. For Barton J the test for vicarious liability for the tortious acts of employees was the control test – the servant "must at the time of the act be not only the [employer's] servant but must also be under his immediate control…": at 984. 1098 The decision in Enever rested upon a presumed absence of control because the officer was exercising an independent discretion that was conferred directly by law and not by the instructions of the employer. See also Jobling v Blacktown Municipal Council [1969] 1 NSWLR 129 where this was adopted and applied by the Court of Appeal. 1099 There were obiter comments in Enever that suggested that the principle established by the older authorities in relation to police constables applied to both common law and statutory powers: at 975 and 977 per Griffith CJ. This may suggest that the important feature of the principle is that the "powers are exercised by virtue of the office". Griffith CJ at 977 said that the powers of a constable, whether conferred by common law or statute, were exercised by him by virtue of his office and could not be exercised on the responsibility of any person but himself. A constable, therefore "when acting as a peace officer, is not exercising a delegated authority, but an original authority". The decision in Enever is authority for the proposition that any authority that is specifically granted by the legislature to a person is original authority. Therefore, any person acting under statutory authority may be exercising an independent discretionary function. The Enever decision was approved by the Privy Council in Attorney-General (NSW) v Perpetual Trustee Co Ltd [1995] AC 457. 1100 In 1986, in the decision of Oceanic Crest a majority of the High Court, following the older decision of Fowles v Eastern & Australian Steamship Co Ltd [1916] 2 AC 556 ("Fowles"), confirmed that the independent discretion rule was applicable to a ship's pilot with the result that the pilot's employer was not vicariously liable for its employee's negligence. The case involved an action for indemnity that had been brought by the owner of a ship which had damaged a wharf. The owner sued the employer of the pilot whose negligence had caused the damage. The finding of negligence was not challenged on appeal. The pilot had been provided by the employer, a private company, Pilbara Harbour Services Pty Ltd ("Pilbara") which had statutory authority to provide port services. Pilbara was a wholly owned subsidiary and assignee of Hamersley Iron Pty Ltd ("Hamersley") under the Iron Ore (Hamersley Range) Agreement Act 1963 (WA). Pursuant to that Act, which embodied an agreement between the Western Australian Government and Hamersley, the latter company had the entire control of port services at Dampier. That port had been proclaimed under the Shipping and Pilotage Act 1967 (WA). Regulations made under that Act provided for compulsory pilotage of vessels entering or leaving the port. Hamersley, which had built the harbour at Dampier, had assigned its rights under the Iron Ore (Hamersley Range) Agreement Act and the Shipping Pilotage Act to Pilbara. The pilot was employed by Pilbara at an annual salary and, subsequently, had been appointed by the Governor to be a pilot for the port. In essence, Pilbara provided the pilot whose negligence was the cause of the damage. 1101 The majority, comprising Gibbs CJ, Dawson and Wilson JJ, held that the pilot was exercising an independent function for which the employer was not liable. Brennan and Deane JJ dissented. 1102 Of the three majority judgments, the reasons of the Chief Justice reflected the widest view of the operation of the rule and his judgment has been applied in South Australia v Kubicki (1987) 46 SASR 282 and in Esso Petroleum Co Ltd v Hall Russell & Co Ltd [1989] 1 All ER 37. His Honour at 639‑640 regarded the independent discretion rule as different from, but probably consistent with, ordinary principles of vicarious liability. Both, at that time, derived from the notion of control. He suggested that the doctrine did not "exempt the employer from liability on the ground that the relationship of master and servant does not exist": at 638. He also considered that the rule was not limited to cases where the duty was imposed by law, but that it extended to cases where the duty was imposed either by the common law or by statute: at 638. He further considered that the authorities were consistent with the view that the rule was not confined to employees of the Crown: at 640. The Chief Justice said that the question was whether the "person who committed the tort was acting in the performance or supposed performance of a duty imposed by law either by statute or by common law or whether his authority to act was derived from his employment": at 637. 1103 In essence, taking the broadest view of the remarks of Gibbs CJ in Oceanic Crest, the employer's vicarious liability will not be dependent upon the existence of a nexus between the individual employee's activities and the employer's role; if there is an independent duty that is cast on the employee, either by statute or by common law, there will be no vicarious liability, notwithstanding the existence or the nature of any nexus. 1104 Wilson and Dawson JJ, in their separate judgments, agreed with Gibbs CJ in the end result, but their reasoning contained contrasting views. Wilson J did not doubt that the principle applied to all three types of employers: the Crown, statutory corporations and private companies: at 648. Dawson J, however, was not as convinced in that respect. He considered that, whether there was a distinction to be drawn when a person was privately employed was a question of some difficulty. He considered that Pilbara was not exercising a Government function; he therefore appeared to be suggesting that a distinction had to be drawn between the functions of the employer, the basis upon which an employee was engaged and the fact that the pilot's duty was independent of Pilbara's function. 1105 With respect to the application of the rule, both Wilson and Dawson JJ regarded the application of the principle as involving issues separate from those of general vicarious liability; they each emphasised the status of the pilot. Wilson J regarded the general issue as one that concerned control of an employee by a master so as to make the servant's act that of the master: at 650. He also stressed the fact that the pilot derived his authority from statute rather than from his appointment by Pilbara, saying "it was his personal authority, and his alone a consideration [which] invites the further comment that it is the statutory authority possessed by the servant that rendered the employer immune to vicarious responsibility": at 650. It was for that reason that the status of employer was immaterial to Wilson J. 1106 Dawson J distinguished between the vicarious liability test and the independent discretion rule. He remarked, in relation to vicarious liability, that "it is not so much that there is no right of control, but that it is practically impossible to exercise it because of the skill involved" and "in the case of a pilot in the general employ of the Crown it is the very nature of the relationship and of the status conferred upon the pilot which is inconsistent with the exercise of control by his general employer over the manner in which he carries out his actual duties as a pilot": at 638. 1107 Brennan J, dissenting, took the narrowest and most traditional view of the scope of the rule. He limited its application to persons exercising statutory authority and employed by the Crown or a public authority. The main difference between Brennan J and the majority is that he stressed the nature of Pilbara's function whereas the majority emphasised the fact that the pilot's duty was imposed upon him directly by law. All four judges were however in agreement that in considering the application of the rule, a basic distinction had to be made as to the source of the employee's authority – whether, to use the words of Gibbs CJ, the person who committed the tort was acting in the performance "of a duty imposed by law ... or whether his authority to act was derived from his employment": at 637. 1108 Deane J also dissented but, unlike Brennan J, he attacked the general notion of the independent rule. He considered that the principle should simply be an application of vicarious liability principles; he determined that its application should be confined to the situation where the employer of a licensed pilot was either the Crown or a Government instrumentality: at 679. His Honour remarked that it was "unreal" to see the role of pilots as that of public officers entrusted with the performance of public duties: at 629. 1109 The majority arrived at their conclusion – that the employer of the pilot was not liable – notwithstanding the provisions of s 410B(2) of the Navigation Act 1912 (Cth). Under that subsection, the owner or master of a ship, navigating under circumstances in which a pilotage is compulsorily required under a law of a State or Territory, is answerable for any loss or damage caused by the ship or by fault of the navigation of the ship, in the same manner as if the pilotage was not compulsory. The majority held that subs 410B(2) did not detract from the general proposition that the owner or master of the ship was not responsible when the pilot was executing an "independent legal duty conferred on him by law and his powers are not derived from the general employer": per Gibbs CJ at 642. In the House of Lords decision of Esso Petroleum v Hall Russell, the same approach to subs 15(1) of the Pilotage Act 1913 (UK) was adopted as that which the High Court applied to s 410B(2) of the Navigation Act. At 63-64 their Lordships referred to Gibbs CJ in Oceanic Crest with approval, noting that Oceanic was authority for the proposition that "a port authority was not vicariously liable for the negligence of a pilot because such liability was impliedly excluded by statute and also because the pilot was a public officer executing an independent duty which the law cast on him". Atcommon law, the owner of a ship under pilotage is vicariously liable for the negligence of the pilot only if the pilotage is voluntary and not if it is compulsory: Fowles; Oceanic Crest; Esso Petroleum v Hall Russell; and Oceangas (Gibraltar) Ltd v Port of London Authority (The Cavendish) [1993] 2 Lloyd's Reports 292 ("The Cavendish"). This is on the basis that an owner should not be held responsible for the acts of a person in whom control of the ship was forcibly entrusted. In the cases of compulsory pilotage the employer is not responsible for the negligence of the pilot for the reason that, while navigating the ship, the pilot is executing an independent duty cast upon him by law. The ship's pilot by the nature of the activity, has to exercise independent and very personal control over the activity of the ship. 1110 In Fowles, shipowners failed in an attempt to sue the Government of Queensland for damages caused to their ship by the negligence of a licensed pilot compulsorily in charge of the ship under the Navigation Act 1876. By that enactment, pilots were licensed and appointed to various ports by the Government and received salaries paid by the State. Shipowners, in turn, paid pilotage rates to the Government. Licensed pilots were classed as civil servants under the Public Service Act 1896, and were subject to Government regulations. It was held by the Privy Council that the action of the shipowners was not maintainable. The Government owed the owners no duty to manage or control their ships but merely a duty to license and appoint duly qualified pilots. 1111 In The Cavendish it was held that the Port of London was not vicariously liable in tort for the negligence of the pilot on board The Cavendish. The case of Fowles was applied. The basis of the rule may be twofold as indicated by Lord Jauncey in Esso Petroleum v Hall Russell: "(1) the pilot is an independent professional man who navigates the ship as a principal and not as a servant of his general employer and (2) s 15(1) makes him the servant of the shipowner for all purposes connected with navigation": at 64. Clarke J in The Cavendish, having regard to Lord Jauncey's remarks, held "a servant cannot have two masters and that it follows that once it is held that the pilot is for some purposes the servant of the shipowner he cannot at the same time be the servant of his general employer the competent authority": at 301. 1112 All of the judges comprising the majority in Oceanic Crest saw the rule as different to and distinct from the application of ordinary principles of vicarious liability. The test that Gibbs CJ, Wilson, and Dawson JJ applied, to determine whether the pilot was exercising an independent rule, was the control test which Dawson J said meant something other than the right to control practically. 1113 The independent discretion rule, exempting as it does, the Crown from liability, has been applied, not only to police officers and ships' pilots, but also to legal aid officers: Field v Nott (1939) 62 CLR 660; magistrates in Thompson v Williams; (1914) 32 WN (NSW) 27; collectors of customs in Baume v Commonwealth;and Musgrave v The Commonwealth (1937) 57 CLR 514; Crown prosecutors in Grimwade v Victoria [1997] Aust Torts Reports 81–422; and harbour masters in Metcalfe v Heatherington (1855) 11 Ex 257. In Field v Nott, for example, the issue was whether the Crown was liable for the negligence of a solicitor employed by the Legal Aid Office. The solicitor, although a servant of the Crown, was also an officer of the court who was charged with exercising an independent duty cast upon him by the rules of the court. Latham CJ said of such person at 669: "Such an officer in performing his functions is not performing an act of the Government as the servant or agent of the Government. He is bound to act according to his discretion and is not subject to any control in the exercise of that discretion. In other words, his authority is original, being derived from the statutory rules. His authority is not a delegated authority. In such a case the Executive Government is not responsible to any person for the manner in which an officer performs such duties because the officer is not acting for the Government in any sense." To this Dixon J added at 675: "When a public officer, although a servant of the Crown, is executing an independent duty which the law casts upon him, the Crown is not liable for the wrongful acts he may commit in the course of his execution. As the law charges him with a discretion and responsibility which rests upon him in virtue of his office or of some designation under the law, he alone is liable for any breach of duty. The Crown is not acting through him and is not vicariously responsible for his tort." 1114 The line that must be drawn can, at times, be fine. As Yeldham J said in Oriental Foods (Wholesalers) Co Pty Ltd v Commonwealth of Australia (1983) 50 ALR 452 at 455: "The rule does not exempt the particular servant from personal liability; it merely exempts the Crown from vicarious liability. There is no doubt, for example, that a policeman is personally liable for wrongful arrest. And the rule only exempts the Crown from torts committed in the exercise of an independent discretion conferred by law on the servant; it does not exempt the Crown from liability for torts committed in the exercise of the servant's other functions. The Crown will be vicariously liable, for example, if a policeman commits a tort while performing general police duties under the direction and control of his superiors." 1115 The independent discretion has been subjected to much criticism, but it still remains the law. The rule that evolved in Australia from Enever has been modified and abrogated by statute as well as being the subject of substantial criticism. Such criticisms are to be found in Middleton v Western Australia (1992) 8 WAR 256 and in P Finn and KJ Smith in "The Citizen, the Government and 'reasonable expectations'" (1992) 66 ALJR 139 at 145 where the authors referred to the "courts' willing embrace for vicarious liability purposes of the much reviled 'independent discretion' rule". There are further criticisms in JG Fleming The Law of Torts 9th Ed, Sydney: LBC, 1998 at 418-419; P Finn "Claims Against Government Legislation" in Essays on Law and Government vol 2 (1996) at 36-7; and see also Konrad v Victoria Police [1999] 91 FCR 95 in which Finkelstein J noted the "cogent criticism" levelled at the independent discretion rule. 1116 However, despite these criticisms and the abrogation by statute, in some jurisdictions, the rule remains a principle of law with application in Australia. In jurisdictions where it has not been abrogated by statute, the rule "is firmly established as part of the common law": Oceanic Crest 637 per Gibbs CJ; and I am bound by its application. 1117 As the law presently stands, the independent discretion rule represents a limitation upon the vicarious liability of the Commonwealth at common law for the torts of its servants. If an officer or employee of the Crown, acting in the course of his or her service under the authority of the Crown, commits a tort, the Crown will, prima facie, be liable, unless the officer or employee was exercising or fulfilling an independent duty or power: Shaw Savill & Albion Co Ltd v Commonwealth (1940) 66 CLR 344; Groves v Commonwealth (1982) 150 CLR 113. According to Dixon J in Little v Commonwealth (1947) 75 CLR 94 at 114, this principle of independent discretion, as originally enunciated in Enever, applies to any public officer with a discretion in the exercise of an independent legal duty. However, the employee does not have that necessary independent discretion if the employee is subject to the control of the relevant Minister: Bennett v Minister for Community Welfare (1988) Aust Torts Reports 80-210. 1118 In determining whether vicarious liability exists in a situation where a Commonwealth officer has had some duties conferred on him, it will always be a question of construing the statute as a whole and, indeed, construing the statute in the statutory scheme of which it forms part. In the present proceedings, the issue of vicarious liability, in the context of the Directors, is a question that turns on the construction of the particular Ordinance coupled with a consideration of the particular status of the public employee who was involved in the implementation of its terms: Baume v Commonwealth per O'Connor J at 123. The question whether or not the independent discretion rule would apply so as to exempt the Commonwealth from liability will also turn on an examination of what was said to be the statutory duty involved. 1119 The applicants argued that the conclusions of Barton, Isaacs and Rich JJ in Zachariassen v The Commonwealth (1917) 24 CLR 166 concerning the administration of customs were authority that supported their proposition that the Commonwealth was vicariously liable to Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner. Their Honours said at 179: "The first and fundamental circumstance to be remembered is that by the Constitution itself (sec 69) it is enacted that 'the Departments of Customs and of Excise in each State shall become transferred to the Commonwealth on its establishment'. Sec. 64 refers to the Departments of State of the Commonwealth. The Department of Trade and Customs was accordingly established. The Customs Act 1901 was for the purpose of regulating that Department so far as Parliament thought necessary. Having in view the Constitutional provisions as to Customs, and the reference to Departments, it is difficult to see how the Commonwealth can so far dissociate itself from the administration of the Department as to say any of its functions are not functions of the Commonwealth, but of some person in his own individual capacity, entirely independent of the Commonwealth. No doubt superior officers may be, and in most cases are, independent of the acts of their subordinates, unless those acts are expressly or impliedly authorized or directed or participated in by them. Further, Parliament could lay a personal duty on an officer towards the public. But it is quite another matter to say that the Commonwealth is or can be, in its corporate capacity, a stranger to any part of the administration of the Department of Trade and Customs." 1120 Thorne & Rowe v State of Western Australia [1964] WAR 147 was a case in which the two plaintiffs sued the State for damages for personal injuries that they suffered at the hands of an escaped prisoner, the husband of the first plaintiff. Negus J concluded that the State was vicariously liable for the conduct of the Comptroller-General of Prisons and Naughton, the gaoler. In the course of his reasons, he said at 149: "The Comptroller General and Naughton were appointed under that statute by the Governor, i.e. the Crown. Their duties were laid down by the statute and the Prisons Act Regulations. At all material times, they both had custody of Thorne pursuant to the statute. Naughton had the immediate custody and, pursuant to the warrants delivered to him and the statute and the regulations, it was his duty to keep Thorne imprisoned for the term of his sentence and to prevent his obtaining the means of escaping, and escaping; and he was liable to answer for the escape of any person including Thorne whenever such escape should happen by or through his neglect or default but not otherwise. The Comptroller General had discretionary power to order Thorne's removal from the Broome gaol to another gaol for any cause. The Comptroller General and Naughton were both servants or agents of the Crown. The Comptroller General had the care and direction of the Broome gaol, which meant that Naughton, who had charge of it, was subject to his control. The Comptroller General in turn was subject to the control of the Minister, i.e. the Crown. Consequently neither the Comptroller General nor Naughton was in the same category as the constable (or Peace Officer) referred to in Enever v R (1906) 3 CLR 969." 1121 These cases are all of value in that they emphasised that particular regard must be had to the relevant legislation and to the legislative scheme of which it forms part. In each of the cases where the Crown was held to be vicariously liable, it was because the Crown's relationship to its officer either exhibited a measure of control or failed to exhibit that an independence of action was available to the officer. 1122 I have come to the conclusion that no vicarious liability would have attached to the Commonwealth as a result of Lorna Nelson being removed from Phillip Creek and taken to the Retta Dixon Home if that removal was effected by the Director in accordance with the provisions that were contained in s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance. I would have also come to the same conclusion if Peter Gunner had been removed from Utopia Station and taken to St Mary's Hostel in accordance with the provisions of s 6. At a later stage of these reasons, I set out my conclusions that the evidence does not justify a finding that either Director breached any statutory duty in the removal and detention of either applicant. Even if, contrary to my opinion, one of the Directors could be held liable for a breach of a statutory duty that was imposed on him by either the 1918 Ordinance or the Welfare Ordinance, the statutory duties relative to the removals and detentions were imposed on the Directors personally and by virtue of that office. It is true that the Department of Native Affairs was "under" the Administrator in the overall administration of the 1918 Ordinance, but it was the Director who had to form the opinion that it was necessary or desirable, in the interests of the child, to undertake the care, custody or control of the child. Neither the Administrator, the Minister nor the Commonwealth could tell the Director what to do. Guidelines could be laid down, policies such as Sir Paul Hasluck's 1952 policy, could be promulgated but, in the final analysis, the decision was that of the Director. 1123 Vicarious liability does not therefore attach to the Commonwealth if the Directors were acting in the exercise of their independent statutory duties. Thus, to the extent to which there might have been an action for breach of a duty in the exercise of the powers contained in s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance it would have been the Director who was liable alone for any wrongful acts that were committed in the exercise of the duty, even though he was an officer or employee of the Commonwealth. He is to be treated, in other words, as the principal and not as an agent of the Commonwealth. 1124 I return to the applicants' submission that the evidence showed a lack of independence of the Director and other Commonwealth employees and a subservient role of the Director to the Administrator and the Minister. 1125 As to Mr Moy and the relationship between him on the one hand and the Administrator and the Minister on the other, I have already pointed to the total lack of documentary records dealing with the removal of the Phillip Creek children. There was also a total absence of documentary records touching upon or concerning the relationship (if any) that existed between the Director and the Administrator on the subject of their removal. There is now no way of knowing what relationship, if any, existed. There was no justification for the applicants' submission that Mr Moy lacked independence or that, if he acted under s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance to remove and detain Lorna, he did so in a sense of subservience to either the Administrator or the Minister. There was no evidence to support that submission, nor was there any evidence that would enable an inference in those terms to be drawn. 1126 The position with respect to Mr Giese and Peter Gunner was quite different. I will consider the position that would have existed if, contrary to my finding, it was the Director through the agency of one of his officers, who removed Mr Gunner and detained him in St Mary's. By the time that Peter was removed and committed to St Mary's, Sir Paul Hasluck had formulated the 1952 policy. There can be no doubt that, as the Ministerial head, he had laid down the guidelines under which a part Aboriginal child might be removed. Yet nowhere in those principles was there a direction that a child must – or must not – be taken in nominated circumstances. There were prerequisites that were to be attended to but in the final analysis, nothing in the policy statement interfered with the ultimate discretion of the Director. It was the Director, and the Director alone, who was to form the necessary opinion. 1127 In Inglis v Commonwealth Trading Bank (1969) 119 CLR 334 Kitto J considered that the question of Commonwealth liability for a statutory corporation was one of statutory interpretation. He stated at 337-338: "The decisive question is not whether the activities and functions with which the respondent is endowed are traditionally governmental in character, though their possession of a traditional or generally accepted governmental character may well help in the ascertainment of the legislative intention. The question is rather what intention appears from the provisions relating to the respondent in the relevant statute: is it, on the one hand, an intention that the Commonwealth shall operate in a particular field through a corporation created for the purpose; or is it, on the other hand, an intention to put into the field a corporation to perform its functions independently of the Commonwealth, that is to say otherwise than as a Commonwealth instrument, so that the concept of a Commonwealth activity cannot realistically be applied to that which the corporation does?" That was also the approach that was taken by the New South Wales Court of Appeal in Haines v Bendall (1990) Aust Torts Report ¶81-005. In that case the plaintiff suffered injuries when he dived into a pool in a national park. He sued a nominal defendant representing the State of New South Wales on the basis that the State was vicariously liable for the alleged negligence of the employees of the National Parks and Wildlife Service ("the Service"). The Service was in control of the general area in which the pool was situated. The defendant argued that the State of New South Wales was not responsible for the Service and that therefore it was the wrong defendant. The National Parks and Wildlife Act 1974 (NSW) provided that the Director of the Service had the care, control and management of reserved Crown land. Section 6 of the Act provided that the Service was constituted by the Director and certain other persons, being public servants or officers of local Government authorities. Section 7 provided that the Governor might appoint the Director. Section 8, which imposed various duties on the Director, provided that he was subject to the control and direction of the Minister. Section 123 commenced with the words "The Service shall carry out such works and activities as the Minister may direct either generally or in any particular case". Schedule 4 provided that the Governor could remove the Director from office. 1128 The Court of Appeal was unanimous in concluding that the State was vicariously liable. Priestley JA (with whom Samuels and Meagher JJA agreed) said at 67,594: "The defendant accepted that the position of the Director was primarily to be ascertained by reference to the relevant statutes. Carruthers J set out what seemed to him to be the most important of the statutory provisions. Of these, sec 6 of the Act said that the Service was constituted by the Director and certain other persons, being public servants or officers of local government authorities. Section 7 provided that the Governor might appoint the Director. Section 8 imposed various duties on the Director; sec 8(10) provided that the Director should, in the exercise and discharge of the powers, authorities, duties and functions conferred or imposed on him by or under the Act or any other Act, be subject to the control and direction of the Minister. Section 12 dealt with the powers and functions of the Service, commencing 'The Service shall carry out such works and activities as the Minister may direct either generally or in any particular case'. Schedule 4 to the Act provided (cl. 8) that the Governor might for any cause which to him seemed sufficient remove the Director from office. Carruthers J also noted that there was no provision in the Act for legal proceedings to be brought by or against the Director. These, and other provisions referred to by Carruthers J, in my opinion justified his conclusion that the Government exercised such a general direction and control over the Director as to his function as to deprive him of any will of his own, and to make him the mere instrument of the Government." 1129 In the limited context of the formulation by the Director of Native Affairs of an opinion under s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance, that was not a case where, to use the words of Priestley JA in Haines v Bendall at 67,594: "… the Government exercised such a general direction and control over the Director as to his function as to deprive him of any will of his own, and to make him the mere instrument of the Government." 1130 I cannot accept that, in the formulation of an opinion under s 6, the Director was, or was intended to be, the instrument of the Commonwealth in administering Aboriginal affairs in the Territory. I believe that there was a readily acceptable explanation for this position. It was reasonable that the Commonwealth would lay out, in legislative form, its policy with respect to Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people in the Northern Territory and expect its representatives to implement that policy. But when it came to taking a child into custody, that same policy demanded that individual consideration be given to the personal circumstances of each child. The framers of the legislation realised that the individual welfare of a human being could not be encapsulated in words on a piece of paper. Hence, in that limited area, the legislature was prepared to entrust the ultimate decision to its senior public servant in the Native Affairs Branch. The same concept, expressed in quite different terms can be found in the Welfare Ordinance. Under that Ordinance, s 17 empowered the Director, where he considered that it was "in the best interests of a ward", to take the ward into custody. However, and unlike the 1918 Ordinance, there were additional protections available. In the first place, the Administrator – not the Director – had to declare that a person was a ward: s 14; then the person had a right of appeal against the declaration: s 32. Those were statutory rights within a statutory scheme that led to the last protection which, although it had a legislative mandate, was personal to the Director: if a person was a ward, it was for the Director alone to form the opinion under s 17. 1131 In Superannuation Fund Investment Trust v Commissioner of Stamps of the State of South Australia (1979) 145 CLR 330, Stephen and Aickin JJ held that the Superannuation Fund Investment Trust ("the Trust") was not the Crown in right of the Commonwealth or a servant or agent of the Crown. Hence, they considered that certain conveyances to the Trust were not within the exemption from stamp duty as conveyances in favour of "the Crown". Barwick CJ and Mason J were of the opinion that the Trust was "a manifestation of the Crown in right of the Commonwealth": at 335 per Barwick CJ while Murphy J considered that the question was "not decisive of this case": at 357; he concluded, on other grounds, that the Trust was assessable to duty. 1132 Stephen J, at 348, did not deem it necessary to undertake an examination: "… of the actual extent to which particular actions are or are not the result of the exercise of control by the executive: it is the existence of the statutory ability to control, or its absence, that is to be looked at." Relying on that statement, the applicants argued that the Director exercised his powers and duties subject to executive control – the administration of the Ordinances was nothing more than the carrying into effect of activities peculiarly within the province of the Government. I cannot agree. Although the Directors were the instruments of the Commonwealth in administering Aboriginal affairs in the Territory, it is my opinion that a Director was entitled and obliged to ignore an instruction from the Administrator or the Minister if he or she did not think it to be in the interests of the child to utilise his power under s 6. For that reason, I have come to the conclusion that when a Director of Native Affairs or a Director of Welfare acted under s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance or s 17 of the Welfare Ordinance to remove a part Aboriginal child from his or her family and place that child in an institution such as the Retta Dixon Home or St Mary's Hostel, the Director was acting independently, free of any control by the Commonwealth. The Commonwealth would not, therefore, have been vicariously responsible for the actions of the Directors. The Directors who held office at the time of the removal and detention of Lorna and Peter would have been, in each case, fulfilling a responsibility that was cast on them by the law. If the conduct of Mr Moy, through his delegate, Mr Penhall, amounted to him undertaking the care, custody or control of Lorna Nelson and if, contrary to my finding, Mr Giese, through his delegate, Mr Kitching, undertook the care, custody or control of Peter Gunner, then I am of the opinion that both men were acting within the umbrella of "the independent discretion rule". I believe that the remarks of Dixon J in Attorney-General (NSW) v Perpetual Trustee Co Ltd (1952) 85 CLR 237 at 249 apply to the provisions of s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance and to the Directors' actions under that section: "No one has yet denied that the Crown is liable for the tort of an officer committed within the scope of his duty, except in situations where the duty he is attempting to fulfil is one cast upon him by law to be executed as an independent responsibility, so that the Crown is not acting through him." 1133 The conclusions that I have reached can be summarised in these terms: As to Lorna Cubillo · the Director of Native Affairs participated in the removal of Lorna Nelson from Phillip Creek and her detention in the Retta Dixon Home; · in so acting, it is possible that he was purporting to act within the umbrella of s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance; · if in so acting, he somehow lost the protection of that section, the Commonwealth is not vicariously liable for the Director's acts or omissions; and · the absence of a committal order until 1953, might have placed the Director at risk, but that risk did not flow on to the Commonwealth. As to Peter Gunner · the Director of Native Affairs did not participate in the removal of Peter Gunner from Utopia; Mr Kitching was acting on behalf of his mother Topsy, in transporting Peter to Alice Springs; he was not the instrument of the Director's power under s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance; · if, contrary to that finding, the Director did participate, it is possible that he was purporting to act within the umbrella of s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance; · if in so acting, he somehow lost the protection of that section, the Commonwealth is not vicariously liable for the Director's acts or omissions; and · the absence of a committal order after May 1957 might have placed the Director at risk but that risk did not flow on to the Commonwealth. The Institutions as Agents of the Commonwealth 1134 The applicants alleged that they were removed from their mothers and families and detained in institutions either by the Director of Native Affairs (and, in Mr Gunner's case, by the Director of Welfare at a later stage) or by other servants or agents of the Commonwealth. 1135 In Mrs Cubillo's case, the other servants or agents of the Commonwealth were said to include, in relation to her removal and detention, Miss Shankelton and the Aborigines Inland Mission. Mrs Cubillo had also alleged that she was improperly detained at Phillip Creek. Ultimately, that allegation was withdrawn, but only during the course of final submissions. The Commonwealth's answer to these allegations was to plead that both the Phillip Creek Native Settlement and the Retta Dixon Home were operated and managed by the Aborigines Inland Mission and not by the Commonwealth. It denied that servants or agents of the Commonwealth removed Lorna from Phillip Creek. It alleged that whilst she was at Phillip Creek, Lorna was in the care, custody and control of the missionaries who represented the Aborigines Inland Mission. It recognised that Mr Penhall drove the truck, but the Commonwealth submitted that it was Miss Shankelton, acting on behalf of the Aborigines Inland Mission, who removed Lorna and the other children from Phillip Creek. The Commonwealth further contended that initially, whilst at Retta Dixon Home, Lorna was in the care, custody and control of Miss Shankelton, in her capacity as the Superintendent of the Home, on behalf of the Aborigines Inland Mission. That situation changed in 1953, following upon Lorna's committal. The Commonwealth pleaded that thereafter, she was in the care, custody and control of Miss Shankelton as Superintendent of the Home by virtue of the provisions of subs 13(6) of the 1918 Ordinance. I have already explained why I disagree with that submission; s 13(6) did not need a committal order to bring it into operation. 1136 The claims and the defence in the case of Mr Gunner marched in parallel with those of Mrs Cubillo. He alleged that he was removed from Utopia by "the Director of Native Affairs or other servants or agents of the respondent" and that he was thereafter detained by various servants or agents of the Commonwealth; they included the Church of England, Archdeacons Rogers and Bott, Captain Steep and Mr Bennier and other members of the staff of St Mary's. The Commonwealth's answer was to plead that Peter was not removed from Utopia by its servants or agents. It pleaded that the Director of Native Affairs "arranged for and facilitated the admission" of Peter to the Hostel "at the request of his mother", that St Mary's was managed by the Australian Board of Missions and not by the Commonwealth and that Peter was detained there "at the request and with the consent of his mother". 1137 The applicants contended that the evidence established that the missions were integral to the implementation of both the Commonwealth's removal policy and its overall policy of assimilation. They argued that the missions acted as the Commonwealth's agents in the conduct of institutions for part Aboriginal children and that they conducted their institutions at the request of the Commonwealth, using its funds, in accordance with its policy and under its supervision. The applicants pointed out that the Superintendents of the institutions were nominated by the Administrator, arguing that they thereby acquired powers and functions under the Aboriginals Ordinance. The applicants maintained that the missions and the Superintendents of the institutions were therefore the agents of the Director in relation to the care, custody and control of those children and that, contrary to the Commonwealth's contention, the missions were not independent concerns over which the Commonwealth had no control and for which it had no responsibility. 1138 In support of these propositions, the applicants relied on certain documentary material that was tendered in evidence. They referred to a letter that Mr Giese wrote to Reverend Coldrake, the chairman of the Australian Board of Missions, the body that was responsible for St Mary's Hostel. The purpose of the letter, which was undated, was to explain Mr Giese's concern about the quality of the staff at St Mary's; he said of them that they "obviously had no training and little experience in the work which they were expected to do". Mr Giese continued: "You will be aware of course that this Administration has a major responsibility for the management and development of St. Mary's Hostel.. ." 1139 Mr Worthy was asked to comment on this passage from Mr Giese's letter. It would seem, from what Mr Worthy said, that this was a case where policy and practice, so far as he was concerned, were not consistent: "The policy was that the Welfare Branch was responsible for the supervision of St Mary's, as it was for each of the other institutions. The practice was that each institution carried out its responsibilities almost without reference to the Welfare Branch. The responsibility in practice, as I saw it over those years, was that we were there to assist them to enhance their training, to see that the staff that they did get measured up to what we considered acceptable standards." 1140 The applicant also referred to a report from the Administrator to the Minister in 1949 in which he wrote that the "Missions will, at all times, pursue the policy laid down by the Native Affairs Branch". At a later stage in the same report, he described the missions as the Government's agents. Interesting though these comments may be, I do not think that the Administrator's understanding of the legal relationship supplies an answer. Whether the missions were, or were not, the Government's agents is a question of law that is to be determined after all findings of fact have been made. The difficulty that I had with the applicants' submission was that it failed to distinguish between the Director and the Commonwealth. It also failed to distinguish between the power of the Director of Native Affairs under s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance, which included the power of removal and detention, and which was personal to the Director and the power of the Director of Welfare to supervise and regulate the use and management of institutions which was not personal to him. 1141 I am, however, satisfied that the Directors had supervisory and regulatory powers over both the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's Hostel which were quite extensive even though they did not extend to the hiring and firing of staff. I am also satisfied, in the case of St Mary's, that the Director failed to exercise those powers; inspections were carried out, reports were made, concerns were expressed to responsible persons at St Mary's, to the Australian Board of Missions and to the Bishop, but the results were inadequate and unsatisfactory. The Director failed in the performance of his duty. I do not however come to the same conclusion about Retta Dixon. The conditions were not good, but having regard to the recent conclusion of the war, the shortage of building materials and the shortage of funds, I do not feel that the conditions at the Retta Dixon Home amounted to a breach of any duty that the Director might have had to Lorna Nelson Napanangka. There is, however, no justification for a finding that the duties that were imposed on the Directors under the two Ordinances were also imposed on the Commonwealth. Nor can it be said, in my opinion, that any vicarious liability attached to the Commonwealth. Section 8 of the Welfare Ordinance, for example, cast the duty on the Director; it contained no provision that permitted interference by the Administrator, the Minister or the Commonwealth. The fact that the duties under s 8 of the Welfare Ordinance were personal to the Director are apparent from the language. Education was to be arranged by the Directors "as far as is practicable"; it was for the Director to assess what was practicable. It also fell to the Director to decide what was suitable employment and what constituted appropriate relief and assistance. 1142 I do not accept that the Superintendents and staff of the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's Hostel were the servants or agents of the Commonwealth and that the Commonwealth was thereby vicariously liable for the Superintendents and others having allegedly falsely imprisoned the applicants. Both institutions, although declared to be Aboriginal institutions for the purpose of the Aboriginals Ordinance, operated independently of the Directors by receiving into their care, part Aboriginal children who had been placed with them at the instigation of the children's parents. The control and supervision that subs 13(6) gave to the Superintendent extended over those children; it was not limited to those who had been placed or committed by the Director of Native Affairs to the institution. In other words, the statutory powers of the Superintendents were not dependent on the legal propriety of committal orders for their authority. There was therefore substantial independence reposed in the Superintendent and the powers of the Superintendent ranged over all inhabitants of the institution who were either Aboriginal or part Aboriginal children. That independence is not consistent with a Superintendent being a servant or agent of the Commonwealth in the performance of his or her duties of control and supervision. There is another reason for concluding that the Superintendents were not the agents of either the Commonwealth or the Director. If a child, who had been placed in an institution by the Director, absconded, the Superintendent would have no power – statutory, delegated or otherwise – to take that child back to the mission against the will of the child. The power to do that rested only in the Director; not even the Commonwealth possessed that power. False Imprisonment 1143 The applicants have alleged that their removal from their families was dictated by a general policy of the Commonwealth for the removal of part Aboriginal children from their Aboriginal parents, without regard for their individual circumstances. Yet they denied that they were alleging a "blanket" policy, explaining that they recognised that the Commonwealth's policy did not apply to those children whose parents were both part Aboriginal. They submitted that the Commonwealth developed and implemented a policy of separating and segregating the part Aboriginal children from their families, communities and cultures by assimilating them into European society. That was said to have been achieved by removing the children from their families as soon as possible after birth, by detaining them in institutions and by subjecting them to a European education. The applicants then submitted that the Commonwealth's removal policy shaped the exercises by the Directors of Native Affairs of their powers of removal and detention under ss 6 and 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance when, first, Lorna Nelson was removed in 1947 and, later, when Peter Gunner was removed in 1956. 1144 Counsel for the applicants submitted that the existence of the policy (which counsel called "the removal policy") was relevant to the applicants' claims that the Commonwealth and its Directors had breached their duties to the applicants. Its particular relevance was said to be that any exercise of the Directors' powers of removal and detention miscarried because the powers were exercised by applying the Commonwealth's removal policy without regard to the applicants' individual circumstances. As a result there was no lawful justification for the applicants' removal and detention. It was also said to be relevant because the Directors' conduct in acting in accordance with the Commonwealth's removal policy, without regard to the applicants' individual circumstances, meant that the Directors breached statutory and fiduciary duties that they were said to owe to the applicants; it also allegedly meant that the Commonwealth breached fiduciary duties and a duty of care that it was said to owe to the applicants. Finally, the existence and application of the removal policy was also relied upon by the applicants to establish the Commonwealth's responsibility for their wrongful imprisonment. 1145 The applicants presented their final submissions on the premise that they were not attacking Commonwealth policy itself as being unlawful or beyond power or adopted with some improper or nefarious purpose. They limited themselves to complaining about the application of the Commonwealth's policy to them. The applicants submitted that there were four identifiable purposes behind the Commonwealth's policy for the removal of part Aboriginal children. The first of these was said to be the destruction of the child's association and connection with the child's Aboriginal mother, family and culture. That, regrettably, may well have been the consequence of the policy. It happened in Mrs Cubillo's case but not to the same extent with Mr Gunner. There were however, no documentary records or oral evidence from competent witnesses that could justify a finding that such a purpose existed in 1947 when Lorna Nelson was removed. As for Mr Gunner, I think that it is accurate to say that the existence of the 1952 principles refuted that submission. 1146 The second purpose of the policy, according to the applicants' submission, was to assimilate part Aboriginal children into non Aboriginal society. I agree that such a purpose existed. Although the word "assimilation" was not always used, it was apparent to me, from the earliest writings, that this was thought to be in the best interests of the children. The writings suggested that it was prompted by the twin forces of a sense of responsibility for the care of the children and concern for their welfare as potentially unwelcome members of the Aboriginal community. 1147 The third purpose of the removal policy was, according to the applicants' submission, to provide domestic and manual labour for the European community. Expressed in that pejorative manner, such conduct would seem to most people to be highly offensive and probably racist. There are I think, two comments that can be made in respect of the allegation. The first is that the evidence revealed that educational facilities were limited in the Northern Territory in the 1940s and the 1950s. Any child who showed promise had to be sent south to one of the States for further education and the evidence did reveal that a few part Aboriginal children were sent south for that purpose. The second answer was that employment opportunities in the Territory were also limited. Those two factors, combining limited education and limited employment opportunities, meant that, for many part Aboriginal children and adults, domestic and manual labour were possibly the only forms of employment that were available to them. There were isolated examples in the evidence that showed that there were limited opportunities for some part Aboriginal children. For example, Mrs Katona was accepted into the Public Service. Another example was the correspondence from Miss Shankelton regarding some part Aboriginal girls who had been accepted for nursing. Mr Penhall referred to his having worked in an office with Olive Kennedy. The list was small but it did indicate that it was not accurate to claim that the purpose behind the policy was to provide domestic labour and manual labour. 1148 The fourth and last purpose for the removal policy, as identified by the applicants, was said to be to "breed out 'half-caste' Aboriginal people and protect the primacy of the Anglo-Saxon community". That must be rejected. Although there were pre-war writings that promoted miscegenation, no material in the trial would suggest that any such purpose existed in 1947 when Mrs Cubillo was removed from Phillip Creek – nor was there anything to suggest that such a purpose operated at any time up to 1963 when Mr Gunner left St Mary's Hostel. Counsel for the applicants referred to "the myth" of "half-caste as outcast", arguing that there was no justification for the belief that part Aboriginals were rejected by Aboriginals. Ms Richards, who was then addressing on behalf of the applicants, referred to it as an ill-informed generalisation. Regrettably, I cannot agree. Bearing in mind that it was one only of numerous side issues that were raised in the trial, there was anecdotal evidence of such rejection. The evidence was not investigated in sufficient depth to enable detailed findings to be made on the subject. I limit myself to rejecting the claim that it was a "myth" to think of a part Aboriginal child as an outcast in Aboriginal communities. There was evidence both ways: evidence of warmth and loving care for the children on the one hand: evidence of death and rejection on the other. I mention a few examples from the evidence that, in my opinion, are of sufficient weight to reject the applicants' submission. Mrs Harris and Mrs Matthews both recounted sad stories of rejection and death of part Aboriginal children. The applicants' own witness, GK, conceded that he understood that his life, as a small child, had been at risk. The concern about death and rejection was touched upon by some of the former public servants. Mr Ford referred to a parent "who may be in trouble" for having a part Aboriginal child. Mr Les Wilson talked of a part Aboriginal child at risk of being "ostracised". Mrs Moy claimed that there was a habit of killing one of twins. Finally, Mr Gunner believed Florrie Ware when she told him that his mother had put him on an anthill. 1149 The Commonwealth, in both defences, acknowledged the existence of policies for Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people. It admitted that: "… at all times material to this application, by its executive and legislative branches it formulated and implemented policies for the advancement of the welfare and protection of aboriginal and part aboriginal people in the Northern Territory, and that in the implementation of such policies its legislative branch enacted the Aboriginals Ordinance and the Welfare Ordinance." The Commonwealth further pleaded that its policies were ongoing and evolving and that, in addition to the legislation, they were contained in or evidenced by various documents that it proceeded to particularise. Some, but not all, of those documents have been referred to in these reasons. It was, in my opinion, of some significance that the Commonwealth did not plead that any removal of a part Aboriginal child was only implemented with the consent of the mother of the child, even though the claimed presence of consent was the lynch-pin of the Commonwealth's final submissions. The Commonwealth did not seek to support an indiscriminate policy of forced removal. Nor did it suggest that public opinion countenanced a policy of removal and detention in the terms alleged by the applicants. It agreed that it was indisputable that the forced removal of children from their parents without good cause would have been morally wrong, both now and then. It would also have been legally wrong in the sense that the Director's powers of removal were circumscribed by s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance; he was entitled to undertake the care, custody or control of a part Aboriginal child only when, in his opinion, it was "necessary or desirable in the interests" of the child to do so. 1150 The first of the causes of action was that the removal and detention of Mrs Cubillo constituted wrongful imprisonment and deprivation of her liberty upon the ground that she was removed and detained by the Director of Native Affairs and that her removal and detention was unlawful and beyond the powers conferred by ss 6 and 16 of the 1918 Ordinance. In Mr Gunner's case, that same plea was made and to it was added the further plea that from 13 May 1957 until 15 September 1964 his continuing detention by the Director of Welfare was unlawful and beyond the powers conferred by s 17 of the Welfare Ordinance. The date 15 September 1964 was the date that appeared in subpar 1(e)(ii) of Mr Gunner's further amended statement of claim; it was alleged to be the date when his detention by the Director of Welfare ceased. Mr Gunner's evidence did not address that date and the only explanation that occurs to me is that it might have been the date on which his employment with Mr Liddle ceased. Whilst it is true that officers of the Welfare Branch were instrumental in obtaining employment for Mr Gunner with Mr Liddle, there was nothing in the evidence to suggest that the Director was "detaining" Mr Gunner whilst he was at Angas Downs. I consider that I need only concern myself with Mr Gunner's circumstances whilst he was at St Mary's. As to this, the Commonwealth submitted that the applicants have not alleged that they were falsely imprisoned by reason of being removed and placed in an institution without a Director having exercised some power. Hence, so it was claimed by the Commonwealth, it was an impermissible departure from their pleadings to submit, as they did, that there was no evidence that either Director had exercised his statutory powers. If there was merit in that submission, I think that it should be put to one side as a distinction without a difference. It was sufficient for the applicants to plead unlawful removals and detentions; the onus was then on the Commonwealth to refute those allegations. In Myer Stores Ltd v Soo [1991] 2 VR 597 Murphy J at 599 and McDonald J at 625 both referred to an earlier unreported judgment of the Full Court of the Supreme Court of Victoria in Carnegie v State of Victoria (judgment delivered 14 September 1989), and adopted that Court's statement of principle with respect to the action for false imprisonment where it said: "The gist of the action for false imprisonment is the mere imprisonment. As a result the plaintiff carries the burden of establishing no more than imprisonment. He need not prove it was unlawful. If imprisonment is proved it is for the defendant if he is to escape liability to prove a lawful justification for the imprisonment either at common law or by statute." See also Watson v Marshall & Cade (1971) 124 CLR 621 at 626 per Walsh J. The decision in Myer Stores Ltd v Soo was followed by the New South Wales Court of Appeal a few years later in Spautz v Butterworth (1996) 41 NSWLR 1 at 26 per Clarke JA (with whom Priestley and Beazley JJA agreed). 1151 Both applicants have alleged in their further amended statements of claim that the discretion that was vested in the Director of Native Affairs under s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance was to be used to undertake the care, custody or control of the applicant if, in his opinion, it was necessary or desirable in the interests of the applicant to do so. It was then alleged in par 31 of Mrs Cubillo's further amended statement of claim that the removal and ongoing detention was unlawful and beyond power on the grounds that: "31(a) The removal and detention of the Applicant occurred under the dictate of or pursuant to a general policy of removal and detention of half-caste children from their Aboriginal parents and without regard for the individual circumstances of the Applicant. (b) In applying the general policy of removal and detention of half caste children in respect of the Applicant the Director of Native Affairs failed to exercise his discretion properly or at all, in that he failed to consider and determine whether the removal and detention of the Applicant was necessary or desirable in the interests of the Applicant or of her mother. (c) In the exercise of his power to remove and detain the Applicant the Director of Native Affairs took into account irrelevant considerations, namely the general policy of removal and detention of half-caste children, irrespective of their particular circumstances. (d) In the exercise of his power to remove and detain the Applicant the Director of Native Affairs failed to take into account relevant considerations, namely the interests and particular circumstances of the Applicant. (e) The exercise of the power to remove and detain the Applicant by the Director of Native Affairs was so unreasonable that no reasonable person could have so exercised the power." 1152 The same allegation was made by Mr Gunner with respect to the conduct of the Director of Native Affairs to 13 May 1957 and the conduct of the Director of Welfare thereafter: see pars 41 and 43 of his further amended statement of claim. Late in the trial, however, counsel for the applicants advised that the allegations in subpars (c) and (d) would not be pursued. In so far as the allegations did no more than impliedly assert vicarious liability on the part of the Commonwealth for the actions of the Director of Native Affairs and the Director of Welfare, there then followed a specific allegation that the Commonwealth "actively promoted and caused the imprisonment of the Applicant": see par 31A of Mrs Cubillo's further amended statement of claim and par 43A of Mr Gunner's. The particulars that supported the allegations of direct involvement on the part of the Commonwealth included the following propositions: · the Director of Native Affairs and the Director of Welfare were appointed to office by the Commonwealth and they were responsible, under the Administrator, for the administration of the relevant legislation; · the Commonwealth required the Directors to act in accordance with a policy of removal and detention of half-caste children without regard to the particular circumstances of each child; · Mr Penhall (in the case of Mrs Cubillo) and Mr Kitching (in the case of Mr Gunner) were patrol officers employed by the Commonwealth who removed the applicants and were instrumental in having them placed in the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's Hostel respectively; · the Administrator declared each institution to be an Aboriginal institution under s 13 of the Aboriginals Ordinance and issued appropriate licences under that section and, in the case of St Mary's, approved it as an institution for the purposes of the Welfare Ordinance; · the Superintendent and the staff of each of those institutions acted on behalf of the Commonwealth and under the supervision of the Directors in detaining the applicants; and · in the case of Mr Gunner, the Administrator declared him to be a ward under s 14 of the Welfare Ordinance in accordance with the Commonwealth's alleged policy of removal and detention of half-caste children "and without regard to the Applicant's particular circumstances": (par 43A(f)). The Commonwealth denied that the respective removals and detentions of Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner constituted "wrongful imprisonment and deprivation of liberty". 1153 In dealing with the subject of false imprisonment, there are two issues that must be distinguished. The first of them calls for recognition and acceptance that the Directors were empowered by statute to take action by way of interfering with a part Aboriginal child's freedom of movement and liberty. The right to take that action, so long as it was conducted within the parameters of the legislation, was not challenged by the applicants. The second issue was that which has been the subject of challenge: it was to the effect that the Directors in exercising their statutory powers did not act within those parameters. 1154 Both applicants initially sought declaratory relief. For example Mrs Cubillo sought, inter alia, a declaration that the acts committed by or on behalf of the Commonwealth: · constituted wrongful imprisonment; and · were unlawful and beyond the power conferred by ss 6 and 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance. 1155 Mr Gunner sought the same declarations, adding, however, in his case, a request for a declaration that the Commonwealth acted beyond the power conferred by ss 17 and 21 of the Welfare Ordinance. However, at a late stage in the trial, both applicants abandoned their claims for these declarations; indeed they withdrew all claims with respect to declaratory relief. Their claims for false imprisonment are limited to damages, including aggravated and exemplary damages. 1156 Section 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance gave a discretionary power to the Director of Native Affairs; it entitled him to cause "any aboriginal or half-caste" to be kept within the boundaries of an Aboriginal institution. The exercise of that discretionary power was not conditional: the Director, for example, did not have to form the opinion that his action was in the best interests of the child. As both the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's Hostel had been declared to be Aboriginal institutions, the conduct of the Director of Native Affairs in 1953 when he committed Lorna Nelson to Retta Dixon and the conduct of the Director of Native Affairs in 1956 when he committed Peter Gunner to St Mary's cannot be impeached. Section 16 did not call for the Director to make an assessment of the child's best interests when he determined that they be kept within the boundaries of the institution. In my opinion s 16 offered total protection to the Director and to the Commonwealth in respect of Mrs Cubillo's detention between 1953 and 1956 and in respect of Mr Gunner's detention from 1956 to 1957. The fact that the Directors utilised their powers under s 16 was proved by the tender of the respective committal orders. 1157 There is a presumption of regularity about the committal orders; they should be presumed to have been regularly made. In Point of Ayr Collieries Ltd v Lloyd-George [1943] 2 All ER 546 Lord Greene MR said, in a case dealing with the appropriation of a Colliery business: "It is a settled principle, in dealing with documents of this kind, that the rule of omnia rite esse acta is to be applied, and, therefore, when it is stated by the Ministry in the proper way that it appears to the Minister of Fuel and Power that certain things are so, it is to be taken that that is an accurate statement unless and until the contrary is proved." In Wilover Nominees Ltd v Inland Revenue Commissioners [1973] 1 WLR 1393 (affirmed [1974] 1 WLR 1342), Goulding J spoke of "the clearly established presumption that statutory duties are duly and properly performed": at 1399. Wilcox J in Attorney-General (NT) v Minister for Aboriginal Affairs (1986) 67 ALR 282 held that, in any case in which a statutory power was conferred upon terms requiring the prior formation of a particular opinion by the donee of the power, it would be presumed from the exercise of the power, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that the donee had the required opinion. This presumption supports the exercise of the power conferred by s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance. An administrative authority cannot be put to proof of the facts or conditions on which the validity of its order must depend, unless the party attacking it can produce evidence that denies the presumption. That evidence does not have to be strong; it will be sufficient if it invites investigative action. The evidence in this case cannot even be raised to that level either by Mrs Cubillo or by Mr Gunner. 1158 Whilst it was not pleaded that the Commonwealth placed or held either applicant in custody, it was argued that the Commonwealth promoted or caused their detention. For a finding in those terms to be made, it is incumbent on the applicants to prove that the Commonwealth was active in promoting and in causing the detentions. It is not enough to cause an authority to consider the matter, even though that may ultimately result in detention. For example, it is not sufficient that a person has merely made a complaint to a police officer; if the police officer thereafter forms his own opinion and makes an arrest as a result of his own judgment, the complainant could not be accused of false imprisonment if it subsequently transpires that the police officer made a mistake: Casley v The Commonwealth (1980) 30 ALR 38 at 45-46. The situation in Myer Stores Ltd v Soo was different. There the trial judge concluded that the police officers had not made an independent judgment before arresting the plaintiff, and that, in any event, what was known to them did not afford grounds for a reasonable suspicion. The imprisonment of the plaintiff was therefore false and the store detective had actively participated in the arresting procedure. 1159 The applicants have pleaded that the Commonwealth had a policy that called for the removal of part Aboriginal children without regard to their individual circumstances. Using the purported existence of such a policy as a lynch-pin, the applicants have then argued that that policy was imposed by the Commonwealth on those who were responsible for the administration and implementation of the legislative schemes that were contained, first, in the Aboriginals Ordinance and, then, in the Welfare Ordinance. The next step in the applicants' argument was to the effect that the Commonwealth, having imposed its policy on the Directors, had thereby caused the Directors to refrain from acting in accordance with their own opinions or had caused the Directors to act without having regard to the interests of the children. 1160 That submission suffered from a lack of support from the documentary evidence. I have already set out many of the writings that were tendered on the subject of "policy". The 1952 principles were clear and concise and I see no reason to withhold from saying that they applied four years later at the time when Peter Gunner went to St Mary's. The position that existed in Lorna Nelson's time was not so clear cut however. It would probably be necessary to go back to the situation that existed prior to the Second World War. Even so, there was nothing in any of the writings that would justify a finding that all part Aboriginal children had to be removed or that all illegitimate part Aboriginal children had to be removed or that all illegitimate part Aboriginal children living in native camps had to be removed. Then, if one moves from "policy" to "implementation of policy", the evidence failed to establish that there even was, at any time, activity on such a scale that it could be said that a general policy of removal was then being enforced. The writings of the patrol officers to which reference has been made have indicated that there was a matter of selectivity based on the personal circumstances of the individual children. As I said at the outset of these reasons for judgment, the evidence does not deny the existence of the stolen generation and there was some evidence that some part Aboriginal children were taken into institutions against the wishes of their parents. However, I am limited to making findings on that the evidence that was presented to this Court in these proceedings; that evidence does not support a finding that there was any policy of removal of part Aboriginal children such as that alleged by the applicants: and if, contrary to that finding, there was such a policy, the evidence in these proceedings would not justify a finding that it was ever implemented as a matter of course in respect of these applicants. 1161 These conclusions do not, however, bring the claims of false imprisonment to an end. To establish imprisonment, it will be sufficient to prove that there was a constraint on an applicant's will that was so great as to induce him or her to submit to a deprivation of liberty; physical force need not be used. A mere taking and detaining will be sufficient and it can be effected as a result of the accumulation of the actions of two or more persons. Thus, it could be that the combined actions of Miss Shankelton and Mr Penhall might be the catalyst for the cause of action. 1162 I have found that the Director of Native Affairs, Mr Moy, through his delegate, cadet patrol officer Penhall, was involved in the removal of Lorna Nelson along with the other children from Phillip Creek. It is possible that the Director was acting in pursuance of his powers under the 1918 Ordinance, but there is no evidence of that fact. In other words, the evidence was sufficient to prove the taking, but the Commonwealth has not adduced any evidence sufficient to discharge an onus that the taking by the Director was lawful; there was no evidence before the Court that the Director used or intended to use his powers under s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance. I am of the opinion that Mrs Cubillo has established, prima facie, the existence of a cause of action against the estate of Mr Moy, Mr Penhall, the estate of Miss Shankelton and the Aborigines Inland Mission for false imprisonment based on her removal from Phillip Creek. The critical question remains however; has she established a cause of action against the Commonwealth? Is the Commonwealth vicariously liable for the conduct of the Director and Mr Penhall? Did the Commonwealth actively promote and cause the imprisonment? If the answer to any of these questions is yes, should she be granted an extension of time within which to prosecute her cause of action against the Commonwealth? 1163 I turn to her detention at the Retta Dixon Home. Was she detained there by the Commonwealth or the Director? Undoubtedly, she was detained by the Aborigines Inland Mission, but the possible involvement of the Commonwealth and the Director is not so clear. Mr Penhall drove the truck that transported Lorna to the Retta Dixon Home; his conduct would have been known to the Director. In other words the Director (who was her guardian) knew or ought to have known that Lorna was resident in Retta Dixon. Although there is no other evidence available, I feel that it is appropriate to draw an inference from the Director's involvement in her removal from Phillip Creek that he was also involved in placing Lorna in the Retta Dixon Home. In other words, I infer that the Director detained Lorna in the institution from the time of her arrival. 1164 The next question that has to be determined was whether the conduct of the Director of Native Affairs in detaining Lorna prior to 1953 was lawful. It was possible that the Director was purporting to act in pursuance of his statutory powers but there was no evidence to that effect: as with the removal of Lorna from Phillip Creek, so also with her detention until 1953, I am not satisfied that the Commonwealth has met the onus of proving that the detention was lawful. I am not persuaded that the position of the Director was overridden by the provisions of subs 13(6) of the Aboriginals Ordinance. 1165 Miss Shankelton was, according to the submissions of the Commonwealth, the person who detained Mrs Cubillo while she resided at the Retta Dixon Home. I do not see how this provision can assist the Commonwealth or the Director. I have found, as a fact, that the Director was involved, by the conduct of Mr Penhall, in placing Lorna in the Retta Dixon Home. Even though she may have then come under the control and supervision of Miss Shankelton, it was still necessary for the Commonwealth to establish that the Director thereafter failed to play any part in her ongoing detention. It failed to do this. From 18 September 1953 onwards, the position changed; on that date, and thereafter, the Director purportedly established his entitlement to protection under s 16. 1166 I turn then to consider the position of Mr Gunner. Although I have found that the Director did not have a legal involvement in Peter's removal from Utopia, the Director chose to exercise his statutory powers within a very short time to commit Peter to the care of the Hostel. That position continued until 13 May 1957. On that day, the Administrator declared Peter Gunner to be a ward. However, there was an apparent failure by the Director of Welfare to formalise his ongoing detention in St Mary's by a written notice or order, consequential upon the Welfare Ordinance coming into force. Thereafter, the claim that was advanced on Mr Gunner's behalf was to the effect that there being no evidence that he was detained under s 17 of the Welfare Ordinance, his continuing detention was unlawful and the Commonwealth was liable for that continuing unlawful detention. The position with respect to his detention from May 1956 to May 1957 was different. Counsel for Mr Gunner acknowledged that there was a purported committal under ss 6 and 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance but said of it, first that the power was exercised in a manner that was so unreasonable that no reasonable person could have exercised the power in that way; secondly, it was claimed that the 1956 decision of the Director to commit Peter Gunner to St Mary's was exercised pursuant to the Commonwealth's removal policy and the policy was inflexibly applied without regard to Peter's individual circumstances. 1167 I have come to the conclusion that the applicants have each failed to establish that they have a cause of action against the Commonwealth for false imprisonment. I do not accept that the Commonwealth actively promoted or caused the imprisonments; the evidence does not justify such a finding. The Director of Native Affairs was entitled, as a matter of law, to undertake "the care, custody or control" of a part Aboriginal child; hence the removal of Lorna Nelson from Phillip Creek and the removal of Peter Gunner from Utopia (if contrary to my finding, the Director was legally involved in his removal) could have been lawful exercises of a statutory power unless the Court concluded that the Directors, in so acting, did so without first forming the opinion that it was "necessary or desirable in the interests" of the child to do so. This makes the evidence of the Directors, particularly that of Mr Moy, vital for a proper consideration of the merits of the applicants' claims. Since neither Director is available, the Court is denied the opportunity of hearing what opinions (if any) they formed, for what reasons they formed them and on what information they formed those opinions. The absence of evidence on these subjects reflects back adversely on the applicants' attempts to prove that the Commonwealth directly participated in or promoted their imprisonment. There remains the question of the Commonwealth's vicarious liability. I have already decided that the utilisation by a Director of his or her power under s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance cannot attract vicarious liability. However, in the unusual circumstances of Mrs Cubillo's claim, I have no way of knowing why Mr Moy participated in her removal and detention. If it was because he invoked his s 6 powers, then the Commonwealth is not vicariously liable for his conduct. However, if it was for some other reason then, depending on what power he purported to use, the Commonwealth might be at risk of being vicariously responsible for the Director's conduct. The same difficulty arises with respect to Mr Gunner. If I am wrong in finding that the Director of Native Affairs did not participate in his removal from Utopia, the same question might arise. Under what power did the Director purport to act. The answer to that question – if it is not s 6 – might lead to a finding of vicarious liability. 1168 The applicants need an extension of time within which to prosecute their claims for false imprisonment. The prejudice to the Commonwealth that would arise if that extension were granted is obvious. If the Commonwealth is vicariously liable for the conduct of its Directors it would be deprived of the opportunity to have their evidence; it would also be deprived of Miss Shankelton's evidence. Finally, age and frailty have impaired the quality of the evidence of Mr Kitching and Mrs McLeod. I consider, at a later stage in these reasons whether the prejudice to the Commonwealth is sufficient to deny the applicants their extensions of time. 1169 Before considering the remaining causes of action, I desire to make some comments about the applicants' allegations that the Directors utilised their powers of removal and retention in an unreasonable manner. 1170 The Commonwealth conceded that where an exercise of a statutory power was dependent on the formation of an opinion by the person in whom the power was reposed, the opinion must be formed and limited to those matters which, on a proper construction of the legislation, are relevant to the grant of the power; the opinion cannot be arbitrary or extravagant. Latham CJ said in R v Connell; Ex parte Hetton Bellbird Collieries Ltd (1944) 69 CLR 407 at 430: "… where the existence of a particular opinion is made a condition of the exercise of power, legislation conferring the power is treated as referring to an opinion which is such that it can be formed by a reasonable man who correctly understands the meaning of the law under which he acts." That passage was quoted with approval by Brennan J in Foley v Padley (1984) 154 CLR 349 at 370. By pleading that the decisions to remove the applicants were so unreasonable that no reasonable decision-maker could have made them, the applicants have taken on the onus (except for the special circumstances dealing with false imprisonment) of proving to the satisfaction of the Court that, in each case, the decision-maker failed to act within the limitations that affected the extent of the opinion forming exercise. 1171 The Commonwealth accepted that there is a principle of common law, "the Wednesbury principle", that may permit an administrative decision to be vitiated where it is shown to be so unreasonable that no reasonable person could have exercised the power in that way: Associated Provincial Picture Houses Ltd v Wednesbury Corporation [1948] 1 KB 223; see also The Council of the City of Parramatta v Pestell (1972) 128 CLR 305 at 323 per Menzies J and 327 per Gibbs J. Although the applicants have sought to apply that principle in this case, there are well known limitations on the application by a court of the Wednesbury principle. In particular, it is not to be applied so that the court substitutes its judgment for that of the decision-maker: Minister for Immigration & Ethnic Affairs v Kurtovic (1990) 21 FCR 193 at 221 ("Kurtovic") per Gummow J where his Honour said: "First, the question of where the balance lies between competing public and private interests in the exercise of a statutory discretion goes to the merits of the case, and is thus one for the decision-maker, not the courts, to resolve." When the Director of Native Affairs, Mr Moy, made his decision to remove and detain Lorna Nelson and if the Director of Native Affairs, Mr Giese, made a decision to remove Peter Gunner, they were obliged to give effect to the purposes of the Ordinance when the time came for them to formulate their opinions. Their committal orders will not be open to attack as unreasonable by reason of them fulfilling the purposes of the Ordinance. Thus a committal order should not be found to be unreasonable simply by reason of it being made, without more. The placement of a child in an institution, there to be housed and educated at a local school, cannot, of itself, be evidence of unreasonableness. Nor can the circumstance that this necessitated a separation of the parent from the child be evidence of a degree of unreasonableness sufficient to invalidate the orders. Furthermore, making a decision to issue a committal order pursuant to ss 6 or 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance involved a balancing of several interests to varying degrees. Those interests were: · the welfare of the child, especially its present and future care, and the desirability of an education so as to allow the child an opportunity to realise its potential; · the interests of the parents and the extended family of the child; and · the interests of the community generally, which would include the desirability of the education of all children so that on adulthood they may contribute to and participate in Australian society. While the interests of the child would be the dominant consideration, it would not be correct to say that the only consideration was the interest of the child. 1172 The task of weighing those factors is not vested in the Court. It was vested in the Director: as Gummow J observed in Kurtovic, it was for him to make the decision. The fact, if it be a fact, that a judge may think that he or she would have acted differently is not to the point. 1173 In support of their argument of unreasonability, the applicants raised several issues; they submitted, for example, that each Director applied a policy that was based on race because, as they said, all half-caste children were to be removed from their parents. The answer to this and to the other submissions on this subject was that there was no evidence pointing to Mr Moy having had regard to any policy; indeed there was no evidence upon which it would even be possible to draw inferences as to what matters persuaded him to form an opinion (and that statement assumes that he did form an opinion). The position concerning Mr Giese and Mr Gunner was quite different. Mr Kitching's oral evidence was not of any great value but there were several items of correspondence that suggested that individual consideration was being given to the personal circumstances of Peter. I am prepared to draw the inference from the correspondence that a view had been formed that it would be in Peter's best interests to go to St Mary's so that he could attend school. Some idea of the individual consideration that was given to his case can be gained from the acceptance by senior officers of Mr Kitching's promise that Peter would go home on the school holidays. Although that did not eventuate for some unknown reason, I do not doubt the bona fides of Mr Kitching and the other officers in the Native Affairs Branch. I am quite sure that the issue of Peter going home in the holidays was part of the individual consideration that was given to his personal situation. The nature of the powers of the Director of Native Affairs under s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance was such that each case required an individualised judgment. The importance of taking this approach was emphasised by Fox and Franki JJ in Howells v Nagrad Nominees Pty Ltd (1982) 66 FLR 169 at 195: "Where the power given relates to the consideration of individual cases, it is not to be denied that the predominant aspect must be the consideration of the particular case. The merits of that case must be considered genuinely and realistically; there must always be a readiness to depart from policy. The policy does a disservice to those who have to measure it against the individual situation if it is expressed in dogmatic or mandatory terms." Those remarks can find a home and can be applied when a court is able to review the evidence that related to the conduct of the decision-maker. The court would then have some idea of how and why the decision-maker made his or her decision. But when, as here, there is no such evidence, the court cannot meaningfully engage in that exercise of review. 1174 In my opinion neither Mrs Cubillo nor Mr Gunner have proved to the satisfaction of the Court that any decision that might have been made by a Director of Native Affairs to remove or to detain either one of them during any period of time, was either unreasonable in the Wednesbury sense or made pursuant to an "inflexible" application of a Commonwealth policy. Statutory Duty 1175 The submissions that were made on behalf of the applicants with respect to the allegations that the Commonwealth had breached its statutory duties to the applicants were confusing. It was initially pleaded in both further amended statements of claim that the Director of Native Affairs was under a duty, pursuant to pars 5(1)(d) and (f) of the Aboriginals Ordinance to provide for the custody, maintenance and education of each applicant and to exercise a general supervision and care over all matters affecting their welfare. In the case of Mr Gunner, there was the further plea that the Director of Welfare had a duty to take steps to fulfil the functions and duties that were set out in various sections of the Welfare Ordinance. The provisions of those last mentioned sections addressed, in detail, a variety of subjects including the social, economic and political advancement of a ward, along with issues of education, health, hygiene, vocational training, relief and assistance; they also extended to the powers of the Director to take a ward into custody, to move the ward from one place to another, to supervise, regulate and control the management of institutions in which a ward may be residing, and to remove a ward from the control or management of a person where the Director had reasonable grounds to believe that the person had ill-treated the ward. Those claims were all withdrawn during the course of final submissions. Instead, the applicants argued that they had established breaches of statutory duty by having regard to the statutory provision that the Director of Native Affairs was the guardian of the applicants: see s 7 of the 1918 Ordinance. In the case of Mr Gunner, the argument was extended so that it applied to the guardianship of the Director of Welfare over Mr Gunner as from 13 May 1957: see s 24 of the Welfare Ordinance. However, the pleadings did not include any allegations that there had been any breach of any statutory duty by any Director in the performance of his duties as a guardian; the withdrawn allegations in pars 5(1)(d) and (f) had been directed to the duties that were cast upon the Director by virtue of his office as Director. 1176 The applicants in their written submissions claimed that they were arguing "breach of statutory duty as it concerns the duty cast upon the Director to fill the role of legal guardian". The difficulty with that submission was that neither Ordinance (as distinct from the common law) specified any duties that the Directors were to perform in their role of legal guardian. Despite this, the applicants pursued their arguments by alleging that the removals and detentions by the Directors were in breach of their statutory duties as guardians. They claimed that, as guardians, there were a variety of matters that the Directors should have had regard to when deciding to remove the children. Those matters included issues such as: · whether the best interests of the child were considered; · whether the removal would carry a risk of injury to the child; · whether there would or might be an adverse impact on family relationships; · the health and welfare of the child; · the suitability of the institution to which the child was to be removed; and · whether the child would benefit from a western education. 1177 As to the subject of detention in the institutions, it was alleged against the Directors that they had duties: · to monitor and supervise the institutions to ensure that satisfactory standards and care applied for the benefit of the children; · to supervise each child within the relevant institution to ensure the safety and well being of each child; and · to remove the children from the institutions if the institutions were failing to provide proper or adequate care. 1178 It was then submitted that the "statutory guardian failed to fulfil these duties". The consequences, so it was claimed, were that the Directors were in breach of the statutory obligations as guardian. The Commonwealth was said to be vicariously responsible for those breaches of statutory duties because, in both further amended statements of claim, it was pleaded that the Director of Native Affairs, and also the Director of Welfare, "was an officer" of the Commonwealth in relation to "the exercise of his powers and the discharge of his duties and functions" under the legislation. 1179 Although there is no cause of action for breach of a statutory duty unless the statute confers a right on the injured person to recover compensation for its breach: Northern Territory v Mengel (1995) 185 CLR 307 – and there is no express provision for civil recovery in either Ordinance – such a right may arise by implication. Thus, it will be sufficient to plead a breach of statutory duty as a tort where it can be established, perhaps only by inference, that there is a legislative intent for there to be civil recovery for breach of the statutory duty: Darling Island Stevedoring & Lighterage Co Ltd v Long (1957) 97 CLR 36 at 53 per Webb J. The Commonwealth has acknowledged in its submissions that such an intent has been pleaded, at least by implication. 1180 Breaches of a duty of care and of a statutory duty have been identified by Brennan CJ in Pyrenees Shire Council v Day (1998) 192 CLR 330 at 342 as separate causes of action: "Breach of statutory duty is a cause of action distinct from the cause of action for common law negligence. The former is the creature of statute; the latter of the common law. However, the same set of circumstances may give rise to either cause of action." Writing extra-judicially, "Liability and Negligence of Public Authorities: The Divergent Views" (1991) 7 Australian Bar Review 183 at 185 his Honour had earlier said that the tort of breach of statutory duty will be available: "only when a statute creates a duty to be performed for the benefit of the plaintiff or, more usually, of the class of which the plaintiff is a member and only when, on its true construction, it confers on the plaintiff or on members of that class a right to recover damages." 1181 Whether the breach of a statutory duty will give rise to an action for damages is one of statutory construction. Kitto J explained the position in Sovar v Henry Lane Pty Ltd (1967) 116 CLR 397 at 405: "the question whether a contravention of a statutory requirement of the kind in question here is actionable at the suit of a person injured thereby is one of statutory interpretation. The intention that such a private right shall exist is not … conjured up by judges to give effect to their own ideas of policy and then 'imputed' to the legislature. The legitimate endeavour of the courts is to determine what inference really arises, on a balance of considerations, from the nature, scope and terms of the statute, including the nature of the evil against which it is directed, the nature of the conduct prescribed, the pre-existing state of the law, and, generally, the whole range of circumstances relevant upon a question of statutory interpretation." 1182 It seems clear from the authorities that the cases in which an actionable breach of statutory duty can be implied are rare. In X (Minors) v Bedfordshire County Council (1995) 2 AC 633 ("X (Minors)"), Lord Browne-Wilkinson said at 731: "The basic proposition is that in the ordinary case a breach of statutory duty does not, by itself, give rise to any private law cause of action." Gummow J said the same thing in Crimmins v Stevedoring Industry Finance Committee (1999) 167 ALR 1 ("Crimmins") at 40: "the legislation will rarely yield the necessary implication positively giving a civil remedy." 1183 In the interlocutory judgment, I had stated at 559: "The basic proposition is that, in the ordinary case, a breach of statutory duty does not, by itself, give rise to any private law cause of action, unless, as a matter of statutory construction, it can be shown that the statutory duty was imposed for the protection of a limited class of the public (as would, in my opinion, be the case with respect to the Aboriginals Ordinance and the Welfare Ordinance) and that Parliament intended to confer on members of that class a private right of action for breach of that duty." I now think that that passage must be qualified by adding to it the further observation that welfare legislation is to be recognised as being for the benefit, not just for the limited class that is directly affected by it, but also for society in general. Lord Browne-Wilkinson made this point in his speech in X (Minors) at 731-732. 1184 It is clear that a common law duty of care may arise in the performance of statutory functions, but it is also clear that a statutory authority cannot be liable in damages for doing that which Parliament has authorised: X (Minors) at 735-736. Therefore, if the impugned conduct of the Commonwealth and the Directors falls within the ambit of any such statutory discretion, it would not be actionable. 1185 As I have earlier mentioned, the applicants have now limited their claims for breaches of statutory duties to the activities of the Directors as their guardians. The difficulty with this change in direction is that the applicants have not, in their final submissions, pointed to any statutory duties that were imposed on the Directors by virtue of them being the guardians of Lorna Nelson and Peter Gunner; their references have been to their statutory duties by virtue of their office of Director. 1186 It was not clear what the statutory duties (if any) of the guardian were at the time when Lorna Nelson was removed from Phillip Creek. The applicants no longer plead that the Director of Native Affairs, in breach of his statutory duties as set out in par 5(1)(d) of the 1918 Ordinance, failed to provide for the custody, maintenance and education of the child. But even if that plea had remained it would be related to the Director's duty by virtue of his office as Director; it did not relate to his role as guardian. In my opinion, the applicants have not pointed to any statutory duty that was breached by any Director. If, however, I am wrong, and if it could be said that there was, in the pleadings, allegations that the removals and detentions of the two children, Lorna and Peter, amounted to breaches of statutory duties, then I disagree as a matter of fact. The findings of fact that I have made would then govern the ultimate determination of this issue. I have come to the conclusion that the Director of Native Affairs played a part in the removal of Mrs Cubillo but I have found that Mrs Cubillo has not proved that, in so doing, the Director acted outside his statutory powers. In the case of Mr Gunner, I have come to the conclusion that the Director of Native Affairs was not involved in his removal from Utopia Station. On the other hand, I am satisfied that each Director of Native Affairs played some part in the detention of the two applicants at the institutions. I have arrived at that conclusion, as to Mrs Cubillo, despite the absence of a committal order prior to 1953 by having regard to the Director's involvement in her removal, in her placement at the Retta Dixon Home and in his legal role as her guardian. In the case of Mr Gunner, the chain of correspondence, culminating in the committal order and the Director's role as guardian have satisfied me that the Director played a meaningful part in Mr Gunner's ongoing detention at the St Mary's Hostel. Their conduct in detaining the children may have had, arguably, the protection of ss 6 and 16 of the 1918 Ordinance, however, the conclusion is better expressed by observing that the applicants have failed to satisfy me that this protection was not available to the Director. 1187 It is beyond the jurisdiction of this Court to challenge the policies that were to be found in the relevant legislation. The limit of the functions of this Court was an examination to ascertain whether there was conduct or omissions that did not come within the purview of the legislation. 1188 Lord Browne-Wilkinson in X (Minors) said at 737 that: "It is established that the courts cannot enter upon the assessment of such 'policy' matters. The difficulty is to identify in any particular case whether or not the decision in question is a 'policy' decision." Later he said at 738: "Where Parliament has conferred a statutory discretion on a public authority, it is for that authority, not for the courts, to exercise the discretion: nothing which the authority does within the ambit of the discretion can be actionable at common law. If the decision complained of falls outside the statutory discretion, it can (but not necessarily will) give rise to common law liability. However, if the factors relevant to the exercise of the discretion include matters of policy, the court cannot adjudicate on such policy matters and therefore cannot reach the conclusion that the decision was outside the ambit of the statutory discretion. Therefore a common law duty of care in relation to the taking of decisions involving policy matters cannot exist." 1189 In concluding that the claims for breach of statutory duty should be struck out, Lord Browne-Wilkinson said at 747: "The Court of Appeal were unanimous in striking out these claims in both actions. I agree. My starting point is that the Acts in question are all concerned to establish an administrative system designed to promote the social welfare of the community. The welfare sector involved is one of peculiar sensitivity, involving very difficult decisions how to strike the balance between protecting the child from immediate feared harm and disrupting the relationship between the child and its parents. Decisions often have to be taken on the basis of inadequate and disputed facts. In my judgment in such a context it would require exceptionally clear statutory language to show a parliamentary intention that those responsible for carrying out these difficult functions should be liable in damages if, on subsequent investigation with the benefit of hindsight, it was shown that they had reached an erroneous conclusion and therefore failed to discharge their statutory duties. It is true that the legislation was introduced primarily for the protection of a limited class, namely children at risk, and that until April 1991 the legislation itself contained only limited machinery for enforcing the statutory duties imposed. But in my view those are the only pointers in favour of imputing to Parliament an intention to create a private law cause of action. When one turns to the actual words used in the primary legislation to create the statutory duties relied upon in my judgment they are inconsistent with any intention to create a private law cause of action." Notwithstanding this statement however, where the decision complained of was so unreasonable that it fell outside the statutory discretion, it could give rise to liability. The difference lies in attempting to attack policy on the one hand, and attacking the implementation or the failure to implement policy on the other. It is not open to the applicants to attack the fundamentals that underlie welfare legislation. The authorities have been assembled in Bienke v Minister for Primary Industries & Energy (1996) 135 ALR 128 at 154, where a Full Court of this Court concluded: "But in no case in Australia has a minister of state or a public authority been held liable for the negligent proclamation of a policy or the making of an invalid rule or regulation or the issue of a plan for which statute makes provision. Of course, there may be liability if the wrongful exercise of authority was carried out in the knowledge that it was beyond power." 1190 This Court has no jurisdiction to review the desirability of policies underlying Acts of the Parliament. It is therefore not open to this Court to review the policies that were enacted in the Ordinances and embodied in the powers conferred by the Ordinances. Those provisions, being valid laws, bind this Court and bind the applicants. But as to this, counsel for the Commonwealth acknowledged, during the course of argument, that the exercise of power under the Aboriginals Ordinance could miscarry if, for example, it was exercised for a malicious purpose or for an objective that was foreign to the mandates of the legislation. 1191 Thus, in making provision for the accommodation and education of the applicants by providing, in the case of Mr Gunner, for his admission to St Mary's Hostel and, in the case of Mrs Cubillo, for her to continue to reside at the Retta Dixon Home, the adequacy of the Directors' actions cannot be challenged. They reflected the policy that was expressly embodied in the duties imposed upon the Directors under the Ordinances and pursuant to which they were required to exercise their powers under the Ordinances. There was no evidence of a malicious purpose or an objective that was foreign to the mandates of the legislation. It might be said that the position of the Director with respect to Mrs Cubillo prior to 1953 and the position of the Director with respect to Mr Gunner after 1957 are not so secure. That statement overlooks, however, the onus of proof. It was for the applicants to establish some misuse or abuse of power and this they failed to do. 1192 For these reasons, I have come to the conclusion that neither applicant has established a breach of statutory duty on the part of any Director. The applicants must also lose on their pleadings. An examination of s 7 of the Aboriginals Ordinance and s 24 of the Welfare Ordinance confirms that they effect an appointment of the Director as guardian; but there is nothing to be found in either Ordinance that purports to impose any duties in consequence of that appointment. It was, of course, unnecessary for the draftsman to do so, for the legislation had imposed on the Director, in his capacity as Director, a wide range of public duties by s 5 of the Aboriginals Ordinance and s 8 of the Welfare Ordinance. It is inconceivable that Parliament would have thought it necessary to add further statutory duties by reason of the appointment as guardian, for that would have been mere repetition. 1193 Since the Applicants abandoned their allegation that statutory duties had been imposed on the Directors generally, they were left with no statutory duties applying to them. Duty of Care 1194 The applicants have submitted that the Commonwealth undertook and accepted responsibility for part aboriginal children. That is a proposition that is too sweeping; the evidence did not suggest that any policy at any time reached out and embraced all part Aboriginal children. However, the case for the applicants can and should be considered upon the premise that, in removing and detaining any part Aboriginal child, the Commonwealth arguably undertook and accepted responsibility for that part Aboriginal child. Although counsel for the applicants then submitted that the application of any existing policy would form part of the circumstances surrounding the treatment of each child, and, in that sense, may be relevant to a determination whether a duty of care was breached, they disavowed any suggestion that the applicants' claim for a common law duty of care relied on the "implementation of a policy that was not authorised" or a "misuse or abuse of statutory power for the implementation of an improper purpose". They were two possibilities to which I had alluded in the interlocutory judgment: Cubillo v The Commonwealth at 560-561. 1195 The applicants have not pleaded that the Director of Native Affairs, or any other public authority or officer having statutory powers and duties, had by act or omission been in breach of some duty of care. On the contrary, they sought to attach liability directly on the Commonwealth. They did that, however, on the basis of the statutory powers and duties that were vested in and exercised by other persons. For example, in par 41 of Mrs Cubillo's further amended statement of claim, she alleged that the Commonwealth owed her a duty to take reasonable care; she pleaded that this duty arose as a consequence of her relationship with the Director of Native Affairs, the role and functions of the Commonwealth's servants and agents in her removal and detention, the rights and obligations of the Director and the Administrator pursuant to the 1918 Ordinance and the obligation of the Administrator to administer the Northern Territory on behalf of the Commonwealth and in accordance with the instructions from the relevant Minister of the Crown. 1196 This allegation was then followed by the plea in par 42 of her further amended statement of claim that her removal and detention were in breach of that alleged duty of care. In par 1 of her further amended statement of claim she had pleaded that she was removed and detained "by the Director of Native Affairs or other servants or agents" of the Commonwealth. It must be emphasised that it was only the removal and the detention that were identified by Mrs Cubillo as the alleged breaches of duty; she did not allege that the adverse conditions at the Retta Dixon Home or the conduct of Mr Walter were breaches of the Commonwealth's duty of care to her; these matters were listed as particulars of those breaches. With changes, because of the application of the Welfare Ordinance and because of St Mary's and Mr Constable, the same allegations were reflected in pars 62 and 63 of Mr Gunner's further amended statement of claim. 1197 The difficulty with the applicants' pleadings was that there were no statutory powers vested in the Commonwealth; the position of guardian and the power to remove and detain belonged to the Director. What the applicants were striving to achieve can only be classified as an attempt to sheet home against the Commonwealth a finding of liability that was based on the principle of vicarious liability. Both the Aboriginals Ordinance and the Welfare Ordinance specifically imposed duties upon the Director as to the manner in which he was to exercise his powers under the Ordinances, albeit that those duties were of a public nature only. 1198 It would be unjust to impose a duty of care upon the Commonwealth where it had no statutory power to act nor any power to direct others to act. It had no power, for example, to require that the Director place a particular person in an institution. It had no power to require the Director, or any other person, to remove a child from an institution. Its capacity to intervene was essentially limited to legislative change, withdrawal of funding and to the formulation of general policies. As McHugh J emphasised in Crimmins, in holding with the majority that the Australian Stevedoring Industry Authority owed a duty of care to a waterside worker, the respondent must be in a position of control and under a statutory obligation, or at least have specific power, to protect the plaintiff from the danger. The Commonwealth did not have that control: nor did it have that power. 1199 The fact that neither Mrs Cubillo nor Mr Gunner complained in their evidence about some of the inadequacies, such as inexperienced staff, was not of any significance in my opinion. If there was a failure on the part of someone who owed one or other of them a general duty of care, that failure is to be ascertained by objective considerations – not by the personal views of the complainant. It might be said that the Aborigines Inland Mission owed a general duty of care to Mrs Cubillo and so it might be said that Mrs Cubillo's case pointed towards there having been a breach of that duty. I can say no more because the mission was not a party to these proceedings and has not, therefore, had any opportunity to present an answer to her allegations. The same observation and qualification must be made in respect of Mr Gunner's rights against the Australian Board of Missions. The questions that have to be answered in these proceedings are whether the Commonwealth had a general duty of care or some other duty to Mrs Cubillo and to Mr Gunner and, if it did, whether it breached any of those duties. The Native Affairs Branch did not know about Mr Walter's conduct at Berry Springs, nor did the Welfare Branch know that Mr Constable molested Mr Gunner, but the Directors did have extensive knowledge about the living conditions of the children in both institutions through the reports of its officers. 1200 The applicants have claimed that their removals and detentions, involving both negligent conduct as well as failures to act, were in breach of the duty of care that the Commonwealth owed to each of them. It was open to the applicants to plead a breach of a common law duty of care by the Commonwealth. As Mason J, as he then was, said in Sutherland Shire Council v Heyman (1985) 157 CLR 424 at 458: "… it is now well settled that a public authority may be subject to a common law duty of care when it exercises a statutory power or performs a statutory duty." In Pyrenees Shire Council v Day Gummow J said the same at 391: "A public authority which enters upon the exercise of statutory powers with respect to a particular subject matter may place itself in a relationship to others which imports a common law duty to take care …" 1201 To establish the tort of negligence, the applicants must prove the facts that establish that the Commonwealth owed a duty of care towards them, that the Commonwealth was negligent in breaching that duty and that the breach caused damage to the applicants that was not, in law, too remote a consequence of the negligence. It may be liable at common law for negligence regardless of whether the alleged negligence involved a statutory duty or a statutory power. It may be guilty of conduct that did not require statutory authorisation at all. However, before there can be liability, there must first be established a common law duty to take reasonable care to prevent injury; the alleged negligence itself does not give rise to that duty. Rather, the alleged negligence must be proved to amount to a failure to take reasonable care in all of the circumstances to protect the applicants from injury: Pyrenees Shire Council v Day at 422 per Kirby J. 1202 In X (Minors), the plaintiffs had alleged breaches of common law duties of care as well as breaches of statutory duties. The case, which was a strike-out application dealt with five appeals that comprised two sets of cases: first there were the child abuse cases; they concerned the way in which a local authority had dealt with allegations of child abuse; the second set were the education cases; they related to the provision that education authorities had made for children with learning difficulties. The first group comprised different allegations that local authorities had acted negligently in relation to their statutory powers to protect the children from abuse. The first allegation claimed that the Bedfordshire Council had acted negligently in failing to take the children into care after it had received reports of parental abuse and gross neglect. It was a claim for damages for personal injury arising out of an alleged breach of statutory duty and the alleged negligence by the defendant council. The second allegation, still in this first group, claimed that the Newham Council acted negligently when, on the basis of a mistaken identification of the mother as the child's abuser, the child was removed and placed in foster care and the mother's access was restricted. It was a claim for damages for personal injury against the local authority, the area authority and a consultant psychiatrist (who was employed by the authority) for breach of statutory duty and negligence. In this first group of cases, the statutes in question were all concerned with the establishment of a system to "promote social welfare". The second group of cases, the education cases, involved three different claims that the authorities acted negligently in the exercise of their powers to provide the plaintiffs with appropriate education. For example, in one case, it was an alleged failure to diagnose a special learning disorder. 1203 The question in all actions was whether the children could maintain an action for damages, either for breach of statutory duty or for common law negligence, against a local authority for steps taken or not taken by that authority as the responsible authority in relation to the child. In the Court of Appeal, Bingham MR and Staughton and Gibson LJJ were all unanimous in striking out the claims based on breach of statutory duty but were divided on the issue whether the local authorities were under a common law duty. Sir Thomas Bingham said that they could have been but Staughton and Gibson LJJ were of the opinion they could not. The matter then went on appeal to the House of Lords. 1204 The leading speech was delivered by Lord Browne-Wilkinson, with whom Lord Lane and Lord Ackner agreed. The remaining members of the House, Lord Jauncey of Tullichettle and Lord Nolan, were in substantial agreement. Lord Browne-Wilkinson commenced his consideration of all five appeals with these general observations at 731-732: "Although the question is one of statutory construction and therefore each case turns on the provisions in the relevant statute, it is significant that your Lordships were not referred to any case where it had been held that statutory provisions establishing a regulatory system or a scheme of social welfare for the benefit of the public at large had been held to give rise to a private right of action for damages for breach of statutory duty. Although regulatory or welfare legislation affecting a particular area of activity does in fact provide protection to those individuals particularly affected by that activity, the legislation is not to be treated as being passed for the benefit of those individuals but for the benefit of society in general." 1205 His Lordship said at 730 that the question was whether, if Parliament has imposed a statutory duty on an authority to carry out a particular function, a plaintiff, who has suffered damage in consequence of the authority's performance or non-performance of that function, has a right of action in damages against the authority. However, he distinguished actions to recover damages that are based on a private law cause of action from actions in public law to enforce the due performance of statutory duties, now brought by way of judicial review. The breach of a public law right by itself gives rise to no claim for damages; a damages claim must be based on a private cause of action. The decision of the House of Lords in X (Minors) has been followed by the Full Court of the Supreme Court of South Australia in Hillman v Black (1996) 67 SASR 490 at 495, 508 and 515 and by Wilcox J in this Court in McMullin v ICI Australia (1997) 72 FCR 1 at 95; it has also been referred to with apparent approval in the High Court in Byrne v Australian Airlines Ltd [1995] 185 CLR 410 at 458 per McHugh and Gummow JJ; and in Pyrenees Shire Council v Day at 392 per Gummow J and at 412 per Kirby J. 1206 In considering the cases before him, Lord Browne-Wilkinson observed that the relevant legislation was concerned to establish an "administrative system designed to promote the social welfare of the community" where decisions often have to be made on the basis of inadequate and disputed facts. That passage from his Lordship's speech could well be applied to the 1918 Ordinance and the Welfare Ordinance; they were intended to promote the social welfare of Aboriginal and part Aboriginal members of the community. 1207 Actions based on a common law duty of care can arise either from the imposition of a statutory duty or from the performance of it. They exist where the claim alleges that a statutory duty gave rise to a common law duty of care to do or refrain from doing a particular act, or, that in the carrying out of a statutory duty, the respondent brought about such a relationship between itself and the applicant as to give rise to a duty of care at common law. In seeking to establish whether an authority is liable at common law for negligence in the exercise of a discretion that is conferred by statute, the court must resolve three questions. First, is the alleged negligence that is relied upon, negligence in the exercise of a statutory discretion that involves policy considerations or does it involve operational matters? If it involves policy considerations, the claim will fail as it is rendered non-justiciable. If not, the second question is were the acts complained of, which gave rise to the cause of action, within the ambit of the discretion conferred on the local authority? If the conduct complained of falls within the ambit of reasonable discretion no action lies. If however it is outside that ambit the third question arises: is it appropriate to impose on the local authority a common law duty of care? Where an authority has a statutory discretion it is for that body, and not the courts, to exercise the discretion. Therefore, nothing that the authority does within the ambit of the discretion could give rise to an action at common law because an authority cannot be liable for doing that which Parliament has authorised. In determining whether the challenged action was, or was not, within its statutory discretion, the court cannot assess factors that were non-justiciable or within the policy category of the policy/operational dichotomy. Lord Browne-Wilkinson at 738, by way of emphasising the policy/operational dichotomy said that: "… if the factors relevant to the exercise of the discretion include matters of policy, the court cannot adjudicate of such policy matters and therefore cannot reach the conclusion that the decision was outside the ambit of the statutory discretion." In that sense a common law duty of care in relation to the taking of decisions involving policy matters cannot exist. In deciding whether this requirement is satisfied, the court must assess the relevant factors that were taken into account by the authority in exercising the discretion. In essence, it is necessary to determine if the alleged duty relates to the taking of a discretionary decision to do some act – which would be the policy or discretional area – or whether, it is said to arise from the manner in which the duty is implemented in practice – the operational arena. The difficulty is to identify, in any particular case, whether or not the decision in question is a policy decision; that will often depend on the exact nature of the decision taken and the factors relevant to it. 1208 If the decision that is complained of is so unreasonable that it falls outside the ambit of the discretion that is conferred upon the local authority, there is no "a priori reason" for excluding all common law liability. It seems clear from the remarks of his Lordship that even if a matter were regarded as justiciable, an applicant, in seeking to show that an authority has acted outside its discretion, would have to prove that it acted unreasonably so that its action fell entirely outside the ambit of the statutory discretion. Lord Browne-Wilkinson agreed with Lord Diplock in Dorset Yacht Co. Ltd v Home Office [1970] AC 1004 and Lord Wilberforce in Anns v Merton London Borough Council [1978] AC 728 that the exercise of a statutory discretion cannot be impugned unless it is so unreasonable that it falls altogether outside the ambit of the statutory discretion. He cited (at 736) Lord Reid in Dorset Yacht Co. Ltd v Home Office at 1031: "Where Parliament confers a discretion … there may, and almost certainly will, be errors of judgment in exercising such a discretion and Parliament cannot have intended that members of the public should be entitled to sue in respect of such errors. But there must come a stage when the discretion is exercised so carelessly or unreasonably that there has been no real exercise of the discretion which Parliament has conferred. The person purporting to exercise his discretion has acted in abuse or excess of his power. Parliament cannot be supposed to have granted immunity to persons who do that." 1209 As to the common law cause of action in both sets of cases (the abuse cases and education cases) Lord Browne-Wilkinson, in determining whether the House was to impose a common law duty of care, concluded that it was not. He recognised that "the public policy consideration which has first claim on the loyalty of the law is that wrongs should be remedied and that very potent counter considerations are required to override that policy", but, in his judgment there were such potent counter considerations in the five appeals that were before the House. He concluded that they negated the imposition of a duty. His Lordship concluded that section of his speech by saying at 751 that courts should proceed with great care before holding liable in negligence those who have been charged by Parliament with the task of protecting society from the wrongdoings of others. 1210 What X (Minors) established was that decisions by local authorities about whether to take a child into care may be subject to judicial review. But they were not decisions that will be amenable to a claim in damages. Secondly, it established that conduct within the delicate sphere of child protection legislation will not be actionable unless it exceeds the ambit of the discretion conferred by that statute. The concern expressed by Lord Browne-Wilkinson was that the imposition of common law liability on to statutory duties might result in the authorities taking a "more cautious and defensive approach to their duties": at 750. In placing a heavy emphasis on the policy/operational dichotomy Lord Browne-Wilkinson held that where a decision or the conduct that is under attack falls within the policy arena, it is out of bounds to judicial scrutiny. 1211 The decision of the House of Lords in Barrett v Enfield London Borough Council [1999] 3 All ER 193 ("Barrett") also arose on a strike-out application. In adopting a more cautious approach than had been shown in X (Minors), their Lordships declined to strike-out the statement of claim. The plaintiff from the age of ten months until he turned seventeen, was in the care of the defendants, a local authority, under a care order. Throughout his childhood he had numerous foster placements and several different social workers; he was moved to different children's homes, including a therapeutic home, after harming himself. There had been unsuccessful attempts at rehabilitation with his mother. At age twenty-one, he instituted proceedings against the authority, claiming damages for personal injuries, after experiencing alcohol problems, a tendency to harm himself, behavioural problems and a failed marriage. 1212 He alleged that the council had been in breach of its statutory duty in that it, acting through social workers and others, had been negligent in failing to safeguard his welfare; it had negligently placed him in two foster homes, moved him six times, failed to make arrangements for his adoption, failed to provide him with proper social workers, failed to provide appropriate psychiatric advice, failed to make proper arrangements to reunite him with his mother and it had mismanaged his relationship with his half-sister. In addition, the plaintiff alleged that the defendant council was in breach of a common law duty of care that it owed to him; such duty was said to arise from the relationship between him and the council by reason of the care order. The common law duty of care was also said to include a duty to act in loco parentis and a duty to provide the plaintiff with the standard of care that could be expected of a reasonable parent. Reasonable parenting would, so it was claimed, include a duty to provide a home and an education and to take reasonable steps to protect the plaintiff against physical, emotional, psychiatric and physiological injury. The allegations were largely directed to the way in which the powers of the local authority had been exercised. 1213 The defendant council was successful in the County Court in having the claim struck out for failure to disclose a cause of action. On appeal, where the claim for breach of statutory duty was not pursued, the plaintiff argued that the local authority could be liable for actions taken by it with respect to a child in its care. The Court of Appeal dismissed the appeal, holding that it was not fair, just and reasonable to impose a duty of care in relation to the exercise of the authority's statutory discretion regarding the future of a child in care when it was acting in loco parentis, and in any event, if it were just and reasonable to do so, the plaintiff would not be able to show that his injuries were attributable to such acts alone. In coming to this conclusion, the Court of Appeal followed X (Minors). In applying the reasoning of the House of Lords, the Court of Appeal thought that, even if it were possible to show that the decisions were outside the ambit of the discretion, it would be contrary to public policy to recognise a duty of the type that was asserted. 1214 The plaintiff then successfully appealed to the House of Lords. Their Lordships unanimously held, albeit for different reasons, that X (Minors) did not, in the circumstances of the case before it, prevent a claim of negligence being brought against a local authority by a child formerly in care. The main judgments were given by Lord Slynn of Hadley and Lord Hutton whilst Lord Nolan and Lord Steyn wrote short concurring judgments. Lord Browne‑Wilkinson, who did not resile from anything that he had said in X (Minors), wrote a short judgment explaining why he considered it inappropriate to strike-out the plaintiff's statement of claim, notwithstanding that he had come to that conclusion in X (Minors). In the first place, he alluded to a mistaken assumption that he had made in X (Minors) with respect to some important facts. That he said, showed the danger in deciding a matter on hypothetical facts. In the second place he was concerned to have the matter resolved on the merits because of the potential involvement of the European Court of Human Rights. In Osman v UK (1998) 5 BHRC 293 the European Court of Human Rights upheld a claim by the Osmans that their rights under art 6 of the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms (Rome, 4 November 1950; TS 71 (1953); Cmd 8969) had been infringed. They had sought to bring proceedings in the United Kingdom against the police, alleging negligence in the prevention and pursuit of crime. Those proceedings were struck out by the Court of Appeal which applied the decision of the House of Lords in Hill v Chief Constable of West Yorkshire [1988] 2 All ER 238, [1989] AC 53: see Osman v Ferguson [1993] 4 All ER 344. 1215 Both Lord Slynn and Lord Hutton accepted, in principle, the counter-considerations that Lord Browne-Wilkinson had identified in X (Minors) as reasons, if they existed, for having the potential to deny a plaintiff access to the courts. However, Lord Hutton took each in turn, explaining how their importance in X (Minors) had diminished to such an extent in Barrett, that they should not prevail. His Lordship said at 228-229: "In my opinion, by reason of the differences in the circumstances to which I have referred, these considerations become less powerful and are of insufficient weight to prevail. The first consideration was that a common law duty of care would cut across the whole inter-disciplinary system set up by statute for the protection of children at risk, which involved the participation of the police, educational bodies, doctors and others. But in the present case it appears that other disciplines were not involved, or were not closely involved. The second consideration was that the task of a local authority and its servants in deciding whether to remove a child from his parents because of the fear of sexual abuse was an extraordinarily delicate one. But in the present case, where the plaintiff was already removed from his natural mother, the duties of the defendant were not so delicate, although questions did arise as to whether the plaintiff should remain with particular foster parents. The third consideration was that if liability and damages were to be imposed it might well be that local authorities would adopt a more cautious and defensive approach to their duties. In the circumstances of this case I would not give this consideration great weight and I am in agreement with the opinion of Evans LJ in this case that- 'If the conduct in question is of a kind which can be measured against the standards of the reasonable man, placed as the defendant was, then I do not see why the law in the public interest should not require those standards to be observed.' (See [1997] 3 All ER 171 at 181, [1998] QB 367 at 380.) The next consideration was that the relationship between a social worker and a child's parents is frequently one of conflict, particularly in a case of child abuse, and a fertile ground in which to breed hopeless and costly litigation. But again, in the circumstances of the present case, this consideration is of less weight. A further consideration was that there was a statutory procedure for complaint and for the investigation of grievances, and that the local authority ombudsman would have power to investigate the cases. Again this consideration applies here, but if the plaintiff suffered psychiatric injury by reason of carelessness amounting to negligence at common law, I consider that the jurisdiction of the court should not be excluded because of the existence of other avenues of complaint. The final consideration in X and ors (minors) v Bedfordshire CC was that there was no analogous category of cases to justify the imposition of liability on the local authority, and that the nearest analogy was cases where the courts had declined to impose common law liability on bodies, such as the police or statutory regulators of financial dealings, seeking to protect members of society from injury by criminals or from financial loss by the dishonesty of others. But in the present case the plaintiff was not a member of a wide class of society which the defendant was obliged to seek to protect, but was an individual person who had been placed in the care of the defendant by statute, and I consider that it would not constitute a novel category of negligence to hold that the defendant owed him a common law duty of care." 1216 Lord Slynn likewise concluded that the decision in X (Minors) did not preclude a ruling in Barrett that, although the decisions of the defendant were within the ambit of its statutory discretion, nevertheless, those decisions did not involve the balancing of the type of policy considerations that would render the decisions non-justiciable. Lord Slynn said that the courts will not permit a claim for negligence to be brought where a decision on the existence of negligence would involve the courts considering matters of policy. To do that would require a court to question issues that it is ill-equipped and ill-suited to assess and on which Parliament could not have intended that the courts would substitute their views for the views of Ministers or officials. He considered Rowling v Takaro Properties Ltd [1988] 1 All ER 163 and Lonrho Plc v Tebbit [1991] 4 All ER 973 and said that those judgments had led him to the provisional view that the fact that the decision that was challenged was made within the ambit of a discretion and was capable of being described as a policy decision was not, in itself, a reason why it should be held that no claim for negligence can be brought in respect of it. It was only where the decision involved the weighing of competing public interests or was dictated by considerations that the courts are not fitted to assess that the courts will hold that the issue is non-justiciable on the ground that the decision was made in the exercise of a statutory discretion. 1217 Lord Hutton agreed that it was wholly inappropriate that a child should be permitted to sue his or her parents for decisions that were made by them in respect of the child's upbringing when those decisions are shown to be wrong; the courts should be wary in their approach to holding parents in breach of a duty of care that may be said to be owed to their children. However, his Lordship disagreed with the proposition that because the law should not permit a child to sue his or her parents, the law should not permit a child to sue a local authority which was under a duty by statute to take him or her into care and to make arrangements for the child's future: at 227. He came to that conclusion, primarily, because the local authority has to make decisions of a nature that a parent, with whom a child is living in a normal family relationship, does not have to make; for example, whether to put a child up for adoption or foster care. It is erroneous, he said, to hold that, because a child should not be permitted to sue his or her parents, the child should not be permitted to sue a local authority in respect of decisions that a parent never has to make. Lord Hutton observed that there was no parallel between the responsibilities of a natural parent and the responsibilities of a local authority which assumes the care of a child under statutory provisions. Accordingly, if it can be shown that decisions taken by the local authority in respect of a child constituted a failure to take reasonable care "I do not think that the local authority should be held to be free from liability on the ground that it is in the position of a parent to the child": at 227. 1218 The most obvious effect of the Barrett decision is that the range of circumstances in which claims can be struck out has been reduced. The primary ratio is that, in determining whether the acts of a local authority are justiciable or not, except in the clearest of cases, an investigation into the real, as opposed to hypothetical, facts is required. However, the decision is not limited in its utility to that ratio. The decision also established that, although a claim for negligence in the making of a decision to exercise a statutory discretion was likely not to be justiciable unless it was wholly unreasonable so as not to be a real exercise of the discretion, certain acts done pursuant to the alleged exercise of a statutory discretion could be subject to a duty of care. Although a decision to take a child into care was made in the exercise of statutory discretion and was non-justiciable, it did not follow that, having taken the child into care, a local authority could not be liable for what it did in relation to the child. Secondly, the decision established that it was not necessarily unjust or unreasonable to impose a duty of care on a local authority in relation to children taken into care. In deciding whether a duty of care existed and, if it were owed, whether it had been broken, the court had to consider the statutory context and the nature of the tasks involved. Furthermore, the decision also highlighted that the distinction between policy and the operational level of activity is elusive; it is desirable to examine the facts of particular cases before using the distinction. 1219 Lord Slynn did not claim to distance himself from the decision in X (Minors). In fact, he identified, with apparent approval, its ratio in these terms at 208: "In summary X and ors (minors) v Bedfordshire CC establishes that decisions by local authorities whether or not to take a child into care with all the difficult aspects that involves and all the disruption which may come about are not ones which the courts will review by way of a claim for damages in negligence, though there may be other remedies by way of judicial review or through extra judicial routes such as the ombudsman." His Lordship immediately went on to state however, that "the question in the present case is different": 208. The difference was that the plaintiff in Barrett had been taken into care and was complaining about the way in which he had thereafter been treated. That factor was used by Lord Slynn to move away, in my opinion, from the ultimate decision in X (Minors). His Lordship acknowledged that it is right for the courts "to restrain with reasonable bounds claims against public authorities exercising statutory powers in this social welfare context" but he also said that it is "equally important to set reasonable bounds to the immunity such public authorities can assert": at 209. 1220 Lord Slynn explained the difference between a statutory provision that requires a public authority to take action and one, (of which s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance is an example) that empowers an authority to take action. In the former case the authority who takes action in accordance with the statute will not be liable in damages for any injuries that might be suffered by the person who was the object of the action unless, of course, the statute expressly or impliedly provided for compensation. Where, however, the legislation empowered the authority to take action in its discretion, the position is not so clear; if the authority remains within its powers, it will not normally be liable at common law or under the statute unless the statute so provides. However, as his Lordship explained, at 209-210 that is subject to the provision that: "… if it purports to exercise its discretion to use, or it uses, its power in a wholly unreasonable way, it may be regarded as having gone outside its discretion so that it is not properly exercising its power, when liability in damages at common law may arise. It can no longer rely on the statutory power of discretion as a defence because it has gone outside the power." In other words, if an authority acts wholly within its discretion so that it is doing what Parliament has said that it can do – even in those cases where it has to choose between several alternatives that may be open to it – there can be no liability in negligence. If however, the plaintiff can show that what has been done is outside the discretion and the power, then as his Lordship explained "he can go on to show the authority was negligent. [B]ut if that stage is reached, the authority is not exercising a statutory power, but purporting to do so and the statute is no defence": at 210. 1221 Lord Slynn identified two tests – that of "discretion" on the one hand and "policy/operational" on the other as guides in making a determination whether a particular exercise of a statutory power was or was not justiciable. As his Lordship said at 211: "The greater the element of policy involved, the wider the area of discretion accorded, the more likely it is that the matter is not justiciable so that no action in negligence can be brought." However, he again introduced a qualification by saying that he did not consider that "an action can never be brought in negligence where an act has been done pursuant to the exercise of the discretion": at 211. As I understand his Lordship's remarks, he considered these issues not for the purpose of identifying them as the benchmarks by which a decision on an excess of power might be made, but merely as part of the general test for tortious liability. 1222 Despite the difficulties in reconciling some of the apparently differing views in Barrett from the remarks of Lord Browne-Wilkinson in X (Minors) I think that two broad-based propositions can be extracted from the two decisions. In the first place, the ability of a court to review a policy decision will only be available in rare cases. In the application of that proposition to Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner, I would consider that decisions to remove them from their families (if such decisions had been made) would have the potential to be policy decisions that were exercised pursuant to a statutory power and in pursuit of the policy of welfare and care that was to be found in the 1918 Ordinance. I am forced to say that they had "the potential to be policy decisions" because, in the case of Mrs Cubillo there was no evidence upon which a relevant finding could be made and because, in the case of Mr Gunner, I have found, as a fact, that the Director did not make a decision that he (the Director) would remove him. 1223 On the other hand, when Lorna and Peter became children who were in the care of the Director, the Director had thereby assumed positively the responsibility for their safety and their well-being. When a child goes into care as Lorna and Peter did, I see no problem with proximity or with foreseeability. 1224 The next step is to consider the state of the law in Australia, but before doing that it may be of assistance to mention the position of New Zealand. Three recent claims have been brought against the Department of Social Welfare in the New Zealand Court of Appeal. In each case the claim can broadly be described as a failure by the Department to act properly on receipt of allegations relating to the parenting of children. The Court of Appeal considered similar issues to those that have arisen in these proceedings, although against a different statutory background. The cases are Attorney-General v Prince & Gardner [1998] 1 NZLR 262 ("Attorney-General v Prince"); B v Attorney-General [1999] 2 NZLR 296; and W v Attorney-General [1999] 2 NZLR 709. All cases were strike-out applications and in each case the Court favoured the Department. 1225 In Attorney-General v Prince and in B v Attorney General the plaintiffs' arguments were based on negligence on the part of those working for the Department of Social Welfare, although the additional allegation of breach of fiduciary duty was considered in Attorney-General v Prince. In Attorney-General v Prince it was alleged that, as a result of the negligence of the child welfare officer, the plaintiff suffered an appalling childhood. The officer had prepared reports, as required by the Adoption Act 1955 (NZ), recommending the adoptive parents for the child. The Court of Appeal concentrated on one of the questions that had been posed by Lord Browne-Wilkinson: whether, on an ordinary policy analysis, it was appropriate to recognise a duty to take care. This lead the Court to hold that to impose a duty on social workers to take care would cut across the statutory scheme of the Act and undermine the intended finality of adoption. The majority denied the existence of a duty of care; it relied upon policy reasons to deny an action at the suit of the child against a parent for, in effect, bad parenting, saying at 277: "If a principal cause of the child's problems as they emerge over the years can be ascribed to bad parenting it is incongruous to allow a suit against a secondary party but not against the parents, whether adoptive or natural …" Those remarks, of course, are in conflict with what Lord Hutton said in Barrett. 1226 B v Attorney General was an action by a father who had been falsely accused of sexual molestation. He alleged negligence by a social worker who had investigated the allegation. His claim was struck out because the existence of a duty to the father would have been inconsistent with the statutory obligation on the social worker to treat the welfare and interests of the child as the first and paramount consideration. 1227 In W v Attorney-General the claim was based, not on negligence, but on a breach of fiduciary duty and a breach of a statutory duty. The case concerned allegations that the Department had failed to respond to complaints of sexual abuse that had allegedly been committed by a foster father. It was claimed that there were consequential psychological problems, alcoholism, drug abuse, criminal activity and psychiatric disorders. However, the focus of the case was the extent to which the limitation period could be postponed in the circumstances of the case. The Court of Appeal held proximity was present but despite the presence of policy considerations that supported the imposition of a duty, there were, in the opinion of the Court, countervailing considerations that were much stronger and imposing a duty would be inconsistent with the policy and scheme of the legislation. 1228 I turn now to the Australian authorities and the decision in Crimmins. That decision arose out of a claim by a widow that a statutory authority ("the Authority") that had supervised stevedoring operations at Australian ports had negligently exposed her late husband, a waterside worker, to asbestos dust, the inhalation of which eventually caused the terminal lung disease mesothelioma. The diagnosis was made in 1997 and the deceased died a year later on 23 July 1998. As McHugh J noted at 14: "His action was conducted on the basis that the relevant injury was not sustained until shortly before the manifestation of symptoms in May 1997. The respondent accepted that this was so." There was therefore, no question of the action being statute barred. Gaudron J was of the opinion that the Authority was subject to a duty of care in relation to the performance of its functions which included the statutory obligation to exercise its powers "with a view to securing the expeditious, safe and efficient performance of stevedoring operations": at 9. McHugh J (with whom Gleeson CJ agreed) said, at 14, that the Authority owed a duty of care to the worker because it directed him to places of work where there were risks of injury of which the Authority was, or ought to have been, aware and in respect of which, the Authority knew or ought to have known that the worker was specially vulnerable. The decision of the High Court was, unfortunately, limited to two issues. The first was whether the Authority owed a duty of care to the deceased. The second was whether, upon the true construction of the legislation under which the respondent took the place of the Authority and assumed all its existing liabilities and obligations as at a certain date, the respondent was legally responsible for a breach of such a duty of care which resulted in injury after that date. The decision of the majority was to the effect that the Authority owed a duty of care and that the respondent took over the Authority's responsibility; it did not, however, decide whether a breach of that duty had occurred. The problem that the plaintiff faced was, in a very broad sense, the problem that the applicants faced in these proceedings in that much of the evidence in Crimmins related to the knowledge and means of knowledge of the Authority in the early 1960s concerning the dangers of exposure of workers to asbestos fibres and dust. 1229 McHugh J was critical of the way in which the plaintiff's case in Crimmins had been presented, both at trial and on appeal. It seemed to him that the case had been conducted on the basis that the Authority had an affirmative obligation to prevent harm to the plaintiff from the stevedoring operations, rather than it having negligently exercised the power to give directions to him. As to this, he said, at 21: "Public authorities are often charged with responsibility for a number of statutory objects and given an array of powers to accomplish them. Performing their functions with limited budgetary resources often requires the making of difficult policy choices and discretionary judgments. Negligence law is often an inapposite vehicle for examining those choices and judgments. Situations which might call for the imposition of a duty of care where a private individual was concerned may not call for one where a statutory authority is involved. This does not mean that statutory authorities are above the law. But it does mean that there may be special factors applicable to a statutory authority which negative a duty of care that a private individual would owe in apparently similar circumstances. In many cases involving routine events, the statutory authority will be in no different position from ordinary citizens. But where the authority is alleged to have failed to exercise a power or function, more difficult questions arise." Factors in Crimmins that pointed to the existence of a duty of care included the following matters: the Authority's "reasonable requirements" about age, physical fitness, competence and suitability of a worker were conditions precedent to the worker obtaining registration as a waterside worker; the Authority allocated workers to the stevedoring companies; it was responsible for the payment of their attendance moneys, sick pay, long service leave and public holidays; it had powers of discipline over workers and its statutory functions included the adjudication of disputes between waterside workers and stevedoring companies. It can be seen therefore that although there were ad hoc employer – employee relationships from job to job between the workers and the stevedoring companies, the Authority had more than a mere supervisory role; it had a clearly defined regulatory and management role with respect to issues such as identification of the workforce, the placement and control of the workforce as well as matters of safety on the waterfront. 1230 In Sutherland Shire Council v Heyman Mason J referred to the distinction between matters of policy and the operation of or the implementation of that policy noting that it was not always easy to formulate; he added at 469: "… the dividing line between them will be observed if we recognise that a public authority is under no duty of care in relation to decisions which involve or are dictated by financial, economic, social or political factors or constraints. Thus budgetary allocations and the constraints which they entail in terms of allocation of resources cannot be made the subject of a duty of care. But it may be otherwise when the courts are called upon to apply a standard of care to action or inaction that is merely the product of administrative direction, expert or professional opinion, technical standards or general standards of reasonableness." Kirby J explained it in Pyrenees Shire Council v Day at 425-426: "Courts have drawn a distinction between 'policy' decisions, which they will leave to the public authority itself, and 'operational' decisions which they will have competence to evaluate." McHugh J in Crimmins, after quoting the passage from the judgment of Mason J in Sutherland Shire Council v Heyman, discussed the decision of the House of Lords in X (Minors). He noted that Lord Browne-Wilkinson at 738-739 had formulated the three stage test to accommodate the policy/operational distinction and he recognised that what Lord Browne-Wilkinson had to say on the subject was not universally accepted, either in the United Kingdom or in Australia. Nevertheless, he thought that "[i]t may be that functions and powers which can be described as part of the 'core area' of policy making, or which are quasi-legislative or regulatory in nature, are not subject to a common law duty of care": at 23. McHugh J referred to what Professor Todd had written on the subject: "Liability in Tort of Public Bodies", in Mullany & Linden (eds), Torts Tomorrow – A Tribute to John Fleming, North Ryde, NSW: LBC Information Services, 1998, 36 at 55. His Honour said: "He then listed what in his view were the key elements that could be distilled from the recent decisions of this court: (i) the imposition of a common law duty is consistent with and complementary to the performance by the public body of its statutory functions; (ii) the duty can be seen to arise specifically in relation to a known plaintiff rather than generally in relation to the public at large; (iii) the defendant is in a position of control and is under a statutory obligation, or at least has specific power, to protect the plaintiff from the danger; (iv) the plaintiff is in a position of special vulnerability or dependence on the defendant. He or she cannot reasonably be expected to safeguard himself or herself from the danger; (v) on a policy overview there is no good reason for giving the defendant an immunity from liability. I am in substantial agreement with this analysis. I would prefer, however, to subsume Professor Todd's first criterion into his fifth. I also think that it is necessary to add a further element – that the authority knew, or ought to have known, of the risk of injury to the plaintiff. In my opinion, therefore, in a novel case where a plaintiff alleges that a statutory authority owed him or her a common law duty of care and breached that duty by failing to exercise a statutory power, the issue of duty should be determined by the following questions: 1. Was it reasonably foreseeable that an act or omission of the defendant, including a failure to exercise its statutory powers, would result in injury to the plaintiff or his or her interests? If no, then there is no duty. 2. By reason of the defendant's statutory or assumed obligations or control, did the defendant have the power to protect a specific class including the plaintiff (rather than the public at large) from a risk of harm? If no, then there is no duty. 3. Was the plaintiff or were the plaintiff's interests vulnerable in the sense that the plaintiff could not reasonably be expected to adequately safeguard himself or herself or those interests from harm? If no, then there is no duty. 4. Did the defendant know, or ought the defendant to have known, of the risk of harm to the specific class including the plaintiff if it did not exercise its powers? If no, then there is no duty. 5. Would such a duty impose liability with respect to the defendant's exercise of 'core policy-making' or 'quasi-legislative' functions? If yes, then there is no duty. 6. Are there any other supervening reasons in policy to deny the existence of a duty of care (for example, the imposition of a duty is inconsistent with the statutory scheme, or the case is concerned with pure economic loss and the application of principles in that field deny the existence of a duty)? If yes, then there is no duty. If the first four questions are answered in the affirmative, and the last two in the negative, it would ordinarily be correct in principle to impose a duty of care on the statutory authority." Later in his judgment McHugh J said at 27: "It can seldom be the case that a person, who controls or directs another person, does not owe that person a duty to take reasonable care to avoid risks of harm from that direction or the effect of that control." And later again he added at 28: "Where the person giving the direction or in control of another person's freedom of action knows that there is a real risk of harm unless the direction is given or the control is exercised with care, the case for imposing a duty is overwhelming." Applying these questions and this dicta to the Commonwealth (as distinct from the Directors) the first two questions and the fourth question must be answered in the negative. There was no act or omission by the Commonwealth; the Commonwealth was not invested with the power of removal and detention. The applicants' interests were vulnerable but it has not been established that the Commonwealth knew of the risk of harm to the applicants. Some of the earliest writings showed that the authors were aware of the hardship and the hurt that would be occasioned by separating mother and child; other writings showed that there were sections of the community that were opposed to the policy of removing part Aboriginal children into institutions. But, in the main, it can be said of the writings that were tendered in the trial that the authors of those writings (who were senior public servants or Ministers of the Crown) never professed an awareness that there was a risk of harm to the children who were removed. Even if I am wrong in these particular conclusions, opposite answers could only apply to the Directors – not to the Commonwealth. It is obvious that the interests of Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner were vulnerable in the sense that neither of them could have safeguarded herself or himself or their interests from harm but to impose a liability on either the Directors or the Commonwealth out of a use of the Directors' discretionary powers under s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance would, arguably challenge the "core policy-making" function of the legislation. The Welfare nature of the policy as found in the Aboriginals Ordinance, the difficulties through distance, remoteness, language and contrasting cultures in implementing the policy together with the subjective views of a Director in forming an opinion about what was necessary or desirable in the interests of a particular child do not favour the imposition of any duty. 1231 McHugh J, at 21 explained the peculiar role of a statutory body in these words: "Common law courts have long been cautious in imposing affirmative common law duties of care on statutory authorities. Public authorities are often charged with responsibility for a number of statutory objects and given an array of powers to accomplish them. Performing their functions with limited budgetary resources often requires the making of difficult policy choices and discretionary judgments. Negligence law is often an inapposite vehicle for examining those choices and judgments. Situations which might call for the imposition of a duty of care where a private individual was concerned may not call for one where a statutory authority is involved. This does not mean that statutory authorities are above the law. But it does mean that there may be special factors applicable to a statutory authority which negative a duty of care that a private individual would owe in apparently similar circumstances." 1232 In determining the appropriate standard of care, the correct test is not what a "reasonable person" would have done or not done, but rather what a "reasonable authority" would have done or not done in all of the circumstances of the case: Crimmins at 24 per McHugh J. That necessarily means that a determination of whether such an authority or officer was in breach must be made in light of the powers and duties of the authority, for such persons do not have the same freedom of action and powers as natural persons. As Gaudron J explained in Crimmins at 9-10: "Ordinarily a duty of care is expressed in terms of a duty to take those steps that a reasonable person, in the position of the person who owes the duty of care, would take to avoid a foreseeable risk of injury to another. However, a public body or statutory authority cannot properly be equated with a natural person. Nor is a public body with the powers and functions of the Authority properly to be equated with a reasonable employer of waterside labour and subject to the same duty of care. A public body or statutory authority only has those powers that are conferred upon it. And it only has the resources with which it is provided. If the common law imposes a duty of care on a statutory authority in relation to the exercise or non-exercise of its powers or functions, it only imposes a duty to take those steps that a reasonable authority with the same powers and resources would have taken in the circumstances in question." Gaudron J also emphasised that it is not only the limit of statutory powers that are relevant in determining whether there has been a breach, but also the resources available to the authority. Considerations of policy are to be taken into account when determining whether an authority or officer has acted in breach of a duty of care. Gleeson CJ said at 3 that in some cases, such as that before him in Crimmins: "… recognition of the existence of a duty is consistent with the need, when dealing with the question of breach, to take account of complex considerations, perhaps including matters of policy, resources, and industrial relations." 1233 I have already discussed the issue of vicarious liability and I have concluded that the Commonwealth was not responsible for the conduct of the Director when Mrs Cubillo was removed from Phillip Creek and detained at the Retta Dixon Home. In the case of Mr Gunner, I have concluded that it was not the Director of Native Affairs who removed him from Utopia Station; that act of removal occurred as a result of Topsy's decision to give her son a western education. However, the Director did commit Peter to St Mary's Hostel and, as a consequence, he did detain him there both during the legal life, at least, of the committal order. I have also concluded that the Director of Welfare subsequently detained him when the Welfare Ordinance came into force. If contrary to my finding, however, the Director did remove Peter from Utopia, I am of the opinion, for the reasons that I have earlier given when discussing vicarious liability, that the Commonwealth was not responsible for that conduct. I am also satisfied that the Commonwealth is not liable for the detention of Peter at St Mary's Hostel, first by the Director of Native Affairs and, later, by the Director of Welfare. 1234 Should it be that I am found to be wrong because the Commonwealth was vicariously liable for the conduct of the Directors, I set out my views on the question whether the Directors had a common law duty to the applicants. For this purpose I must assume that the Director of Native Affairs was responsible for the removal of Mr Gunner from Utopia Station and that his removal took place against the wishes of his mother. 1235 The statutory powers that were given to the Director of Native Affairs over Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people were very wide. Section 6 of the 1918 Ordinance gave him the authority "to undertake the care, custody or control, of any aboriginal or half-caste" in the circumstances that were stated in the section; that power extended to adults as well as to children. Section 5, which also extended to adults, imposed a whole range of duties on the Director – duties that were intended to be performed for the betterment, welfare and protection for all Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people. Under s 7 of the Ordinance, the Director was initially named "the legal guardian of every aboriginal and of every half-caste child notwithstanding that the child has a parent or other relative living". In 1953, the Ordinance was amended so that the Director became the legal guardian of all Aborigines. Next, there was s 16. It empowered the Director to keep any Aboriginal or part Aboriginal person in an Aboriginal institution (and the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's Hostel were both Aboriginal institutions) or to move such a person from one institution to another. In other words, the lives of Lorna Nelson and Peter Gunner were under the total control of the Director of Native Affairs. Although there were important changes in 1957 when the Welfare Ordinance came into operation the act of having Peter declared a ward under s 14 of that Ordinance, even though there was no evidence that the Director used his powers under s 17 to "take the ward into his custody", meant that the legal and practical control over his life and his movements continued under the supervision of the Director of Welfare. It might well have been thought by the authorities that there was no need to invoke the powers in s 17 if, as I have found, Peter Gunner was an inmate of St Mary's Hostel at the request of his mother. 1236 It is arguable that the Directors' powers and functions under the legislation were so great that it could only lead to the conclusion that the Directors were under a duty of care to the applicants. The guardianship, the power to undertake the care, custody and control of a child, the power to keep the child in an Aboriginal institution and the statutory obligations in s 5 to advance the welfare of the child could all be said to be compatible with the existence of a duty of care. Furthermore, there was nothing in the legislation that would exclude a common law duty of care nor was there anything in the legislation that provided a remedy for any breach of an alleged statutory duty. There are, however, factors that militate against such a conclusion. 1237 I turn to a consideration of Lord Browne-Wilkinson's counter-considerations and Lord Hutton's commentary on them for the purpose of determining whether, and to what extent, they may affect the outcome of these present proceedings. The first of those counter-considerations was the question of a legislative scheme. Although the legislative scheme in the Aboriginals Ordinance did not call for the involvement of other participating bodies, nevertheless, s 6 of the Ordinance placed an inordinately heavy responsibility on the shoulders of the Director. In the cases of neglect, destitution and, worse, risk of bodily harm and even death, the Director had to be free to act quickly and, perhaps, spontaneously. In such a climate, there were bound to be mistakes from time to time. But they would be mistakes that were made with the interests of the child in the forefront of the Director's consideration. The second consideration also applied here: to remove a child from his or her mother would always be "an extraordinarily delicate one". Some of the writings that I have identified show the interest and concern that some patrol officers took when they were required to consider the welfare of a child. The third consideration would have applied to the Director of Native Affairs; the risk of litigation would have had the potential to have the Director and the Branch's officers "adopt a more cautious and defensive approach". The remaining considerations do not, however, apply in my opinion. The relationship between the authority and the Aboriginal mother would not have created the potential for conflict that is readily apparent in the relationship that would exist between a welfare worker and a child's parents and there was no other avenue available to a dissatisfied person to seek redress. I have attached more weight to the third consideration than Lord Hutton, but if I am wrong in doing that, the existence of the first two considerations remains sufficient in my opinion to reject the submission that either the Director or the Commonwealth owed a common law duty of care to either applicant. A decision to take a child into care is one that courts are not fitted to assess. 1238 Both applicants alleged, in extensive detail, breaches of a common law duty of care. With one or two exceptions, their allegations were identical. Some of their complaints were without any evidentiary foundation – they were based on mere assumptions. For example there was, in each case, an allegation that the Commonwealth (or, as I would have it, the Director) failed to have regard to the best interests of the applicant by failing, properly, to consider the child's family relationships. As for Lorna, there was no evidence one way or the other; there was no evidence from Lorna's carer (whomsoever that may have been) to say that there had not been proper consultation; there was no evidence from the defence to say that there had been some form of consultation. Mrs Cubillo was, in effect, asking the Court to make an assumption in her favour without the benefit of any, or any sufficient, evidence. The case against Mr Gunner was stronger. There was the document purporting to establish Topsy's request that he be taken to St Mary's Hostel and his failure to call any of his aunts – one or more of whom might have been able to assist the Court with direct evidence about the circumstances of his removal. 1239 Both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner alleged that there had been a breach of the duty of care through inadequate supervision and monitoring of the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's Hostel and the staff employed at those institutions. In Mr Gunner's case, he went a stage further by claiming that: "The absence of any contact between Welfare and the boys at [St Mary's Hostel] and the lack of any proper system to receive complaints allowed the development of an environment in which sexual misconduct was rife." 1240 In my opinion there was no evidence to justify the allegation with respect to the supposed lack of any proper system to receive complaints. If anything, there was slight anecdotal evidence to the contrary: the boys complained to the Welfare Branch when they were deprived of milk as punishment for riding the cows: a girl's mother took her to a welfare officer to show her the marks on her body as a result of the thrashing that she had received. To suggest, as counsel for Mr Gunner suggested that "the lack of any proper system to receive complaints" had some connection, however remote, with acts of sexual misconduct, was quite wrong: the first had not been proved and, even if it had been proved, there would be no logical connection between the two events. 1241 I turn then to the primary complaint of lack of adequate supervision. In the case of Mrs Cubillo, there was insufficient evidence to make such a finding. There were some reports of attendances by officers of the Native Affairs Branch at Retta Dixon Home but I have no way of knowing after all these years whether they referred to the only occasions of inspections. Once again the applicants have sought to turn the absence of evidence in their favour, overlooking their responsibility to prove their case by evidence and not by conjecture. The position concerning St Mary's Hostel was different; there were more reports; in fact, there were, in my opinion, a sufficient number of reports to justify a finding that there was adequate supervision and monitoring. The fault, if it were fault, on the part of the Native Affairs Branch lay in not taking appropriate action when it became apparent from its supervision and monitoring that the church authorities were failing in their responsibilities. 1242 Many of the complaints that were made on behalf of Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner were made without due regard for the statutory powers of the Director. For example, both of them complained that they were in good health and were properly cared for – there was no need for them to be removed. That, however, was not the test of the Director's powers. He was entitled to remove them if he thought it "necessary or desirable" in their interests. It was open to the Director to form an opinion that a western education was "necessary or desirable" in their interests and it is not open to this Court to criticise such an opinion on the sole premise that the Court might have formed a different opinion about the benefits of such an education. 1243 The applicants attempted to inject racial overtures into their submissions by pointing out that only part Aboriginal children were taken; they submitted that there were Aboriginal children at Phillip Creek and at Utopia but they were left with their families. That was true. The policy of assimilation was limited in its initial operation to part Aboriginal children because, as some of the writings have indicated, there was said to be a sense of responsibility to those children whose fathers were European. It is so easy to stand back and say today that the policy was wrong – that the hardship and emotional shock of separating a young child from his or her mother was so great that they outweighed the so-called benefits of assimilation into western culture. However, the issues are to be tested by the standards that were applied in the 1940s and the 1950s. The writings on the subject that have been summarised in these reasons have disclosed that the situation immediately after the war had commenced to move towards consultation and discussion with the child's family even though it was a long way away from a position of no removal except with the consent of the mother. By the time Mr Gunner left Utopia, the 1952 principles had been introduced by Sir Paul Hasluck and the importance of consultation and discussion with the mother was being strongly emphasised. But even then, consent was not essential. However, the provisions of the Aboriginals Ordinance did not call for consent. 1244 My assessment of the positions of Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner can be summarised in four phases: in the first place, I am satisfied and I find that each of them suffered trauma and shock when they were removed from their families; in the second place, that trauma and shock continued throughout the periods of their institutionalisation. The third phase calls for a consideration of the general conditions of the two institutions during the time that Lorna and Peter resided in them. Finally, there is a need to consider, in the case of Mrs Cubillo, the conduct of Mr Walter and, in the case of Mr Gunner, the conduct of Mr Constable. 1245 The power of removal and detention was available in each case to the Director of Native Affairs by virtue of the provisions of ss 6 and 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance. The power could have been misapplied if the Director failed to have regard to the requirement in s 6 that it could only be exercised when he was of the opinion that it was necessary or desirable in the interests of the child to exercise the power. It was open to Mrs Cubillo to satisfy the Court that the Director failed to act in accordance with the provisions of s 6; likewise it was also open to Mr Gunner. However, I have come to the conclusion, in each case, that they have failed to reach the required evidentiary onus. In each case, the applicant has failed in an essential respect – they have failed to satisfy the Court that, when (or if) the Director removed and detained them, he did not have the necessary opinion about their interests. It is very disappointing to arrive at this conclusion. It would have been far preferable to have had all relevant written and oral evidence before the Court so that an informed decision could have been made on the merits of each case. As it is, people are dead or their memories have faded; documents, if they ever existed, have been lost. There is now no way of knowing what went on in the mind of Mr Moy when he, as the Director of Native Affairs, participated in the removal and detention of Mrs Cubillo. I cannot assume, out of a feeling of sympathy for Mrs Cubillo, that Mr Moy failed to perform his statutory functions. 1246 The position concerning Mr Gunner is quite different. In his case, there were several pieces of documentary evidence concerning his leaving Utopia and going to St Mary's. Mr Kitching's memory has faded; Mrs McLeod's evidence was unreliable and Mr Giese, through ill-health, was unable to give evidence. However, the documents that were available point strongly to the Director, through his officers, having given close consideration to the circumstances of the young boy. First, there was a lengthy prelude to Peter's removal during which Mr Kitching reported that he was of the opinion that Topsy's consent would be forthcoming. Secondly, the promise concerning Peter returning home for the holidays was indicative of personal consideration for the future of the boy. Finally, there was Topsy's thumbprint on the form of request. Those factors combined, in my opinion, to reject any claim that the removal and detention failed to comply with s 6. 1247 I move then, notwithstanding the findings of trauma and shock, from the phases of removal and detention to the third phase: a consideration of the general conditions of the two institutions. I think that it is important to stress at the outset that I am satisfied that each applicant suffered severely during the periods that they were institutionalised. However, it was the removal and the detention – more than the conditions of the detention – that were the cause of their sufferings. Putting to one side the conduct of Mr Walter, I believe that Mrs Cubillo's sense of loss for her Aboriginal community and family would have been much the same irrespective of the physical conditions of the Retta Dixon Home. I do not think that overcrowding or unsatisfactory aspects of hygiene caused or contributed to her sense of loss. That loss came from the severing of her ties with her family and the loss of her language, culture and her relationship with the land. And, save for the conduct of Mr Constable, I believe that it is appropriate, as a generalisation, to make the same comment about Mr Gunner. The conditions at St Mary's as reported from time to time by Mrs Ballagh and others, were bad. However, despite that condemnation of those responsible, the legal issue is to determine (if one assumes that there was a breach of a duty of care) how, or to what extent, those dreadful conditions contributed to his loss. My answer is that I do not think that they did. There was no evidence that pointed to Peter suffering ill-health because of the unsanitary conditions. There was no evidence, for example, that he suffered trachoma because of unhygienic conditions at St Mary's. There was, of course, the evidence of children rummaging through rubbish bins for food. However, was that because St Mary's was guilty of failing to feed the children properly or was it an occasional example of the predilection of young children to entertain themselves? The answer is that the evidence was not sufficiently detailed to justify a finding one way or the other. 1248 The acts of the two Directors relative to the removals and detentions of the two applicants had the potential to be within the Directors' powers as contained in s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance. As such, even if the Directors owed a duty of care to the applicants, those acts of removal and detention could not amount to breaches of those duties if they were lawful exercises of that power. I do not, however, regard the power of removal and detention as affording protection to a Director when the time comes to consider whether, and to what extent, he supervised and regulated the use and management of the institutions. To have the power to take a child into his care, custody or control, as part of a discretionary exercise of policy, does not mean that the manner in which that care, custody and control is applied is immune from examination and criticism. The duties under s 5 of the Aboriginals Ordinance may not have been couched in the same clear terms as those in s 8 of the Welfare Ordinance but I think that it can be said of both pieces of legislation that a duty was cast on the Director to supervise and regulate the use and management of the two institutions. I do not think that either Director failed to supervise and I do not think that the Director of Native Affairs failed to regulate the Retta Dixon Home. I do think, however, that the Director of Native Affairs and the Director of Welfare did not take appropriate action about the condition of St Mary's. 1249 The position at St Mary's was worse than that at Retta Dixon, but it can be said of both of them that they were inadequately staffed, had inadequate facilities and, in the case of St Mary's, permitted unhygienic and unsanitary conditions to exist for a long period of time. The issue is whether the statutory responsibilities that were imposed on the Directors required them to intervene – particularly in the case of St Mary's. If there was an obligation on the Director to intervene, it was not to the point to say that while the authorities could close the institution down, what would happen to the children? The Director would have had the responsibility to look after the children. That would have been the short answer. 1250 Even then, the question remains: what damage or loss did either of the applicants suffer from the alleged failure of the Director to supervise the institution adequately. Mrs Cubillo's loneliness and despair came from her detention – not from the inadequacies that existed at Retta Dixon. Her claim that there was no love and affection was challenged by the evidence of others, particularly Mrs Treloar and Sister Johnson. I am sure that Mrs Cubillo felt a lack of love and affection but I am not sure that she was justified. I do not consider that either applicant has been able to point to loss or damage that flowed from the conditions of the institutions. 1251 I turn now to consider the serious assaults that were committed by Mr Walter and Mr Constable. First, it should be made clear that it has not been suggested that any such assault would have been acceptable by the standards of the time when they occurred. Secondly, Mr Walter was not at Retta Dixon when Mrs Cubillo went there; putting to one side his voluntary work when he was in Darwin with the airforce, he arrived some seven years later; Mr Constable also arrived at St Mary's about two years after Mr Gunner's arrival. Therefore there was no complaint that the applicants should not have been placed in the institutions because of the presence of Mr Walter and Mr Constable and there was no plea that the Commonwealth should have removed the children from the institutions because of the subsequent presence of the two men. 1252 The Commonwealth raised a further defence with respect to Mr Gunner. It claimed that Mr Constable's sexual assault occurred in the period after the enactment of the Welfare Ordinance at which point of time there was no order in force under s 17 keeping Mr Gunner within St Mary's. I have already alluded to that as a possibility, but in my opinion, it is only a possibility. The fact that there is no evidence that in 1957 the Director of Welfare used any of his powers under s 17, is no justification for a finding that he did not use these powers. It can just as easily be argued that the Director, perhaps merely in a de facto sense, perpetuated his control over Peter and the other wards who were then resident at St Mary's Hostel by participating with St Mary's in retaining the children at the Hostel. 1253 Ms Richards, when addressing on the issue of Mr Gunner's continued residence at St Mary's Hostel after May 1957, submitted that it was the Commonwealth who caused Mr Gunner to be detained. However, she also claimed that, in respect of the period from May 1957 to early 1963, when Mr Gunner went to Angas Downs, there was no exercise by the Director of any power pursuant to s 17 of the Welfare Ordinance. 1254 Under s 17, the Director could have taken Mr Gunner into custody if he considered that it was in the best interests of Mr Gunner (who was then a ward). But, of course, he was already "in custody" in the sense that he had been committed to St Mary's back in May 1956. Under s 17, the Director could have, again if he considered that it was in the best interests of Mr Gunner, ordered that Mr Gunner be kept in an institution; but Mr Gunner was already in an institution. Although she did not express herself in these terms, it seems to me that Ms Richards was saying that the Director could not be treated as having utilised his powers under s 17 unless there was a piece of paper (or some other appropriate evidence) affording tangible proof of that utilisation. Bearing in mind that the onus was on the applicant, that submission has only served the purpose of highlighting that there was no evidence, one way or the other, to explain what happened in May 1957. The archives revealed a substantial amount of detail – so much, that there is an invitation to assume that the absence of a committal order meant that no written order had been executed. However, because of the huge gap in time, I am not prepared to draw such an inference. No help can be gained from the provisions of the Welfare Ordinance. It did not require the usage of the powers in s 17 to be recorded in writing. 1255 Neither in the case of Mrs Cubillo nor in the case of Mr Gunner did the Commonwealth or the Director know of the assault. Indeed, both applicants conceded that they told no one in authority of the incidents. Actual knowledge of conduct, or of predilection to such conduct, has not been proved and in neither case were the circumstances such that it could be said that either the Director or Commonwealth ought to have known of the assaults or of the assailants' propensities to commit the assaults. In coming to these conclusions I have limited my comments to the most serious allegations that were made by the applicants and I have not overlooked the concerns that Mr McCaffrey expressed about Mr Walter. In Mrs Cubillo's case there were, of course, additional matters: the incident in the car when Mr Walter put his hand on her leg and her allegation of floggings. I am satisfied that an incident in the car occurred and that it so frightened her that she started to cry. I am also satisfied that corporal punishment was administered to her and other children at the Retta Dixon Home. I am not satisfied that "flogging" is, however, an apt description. Misses Shankelton, Dinham and Spohn were not able to give evidence in their defence and the evidence of Mrs Treloar, Sister Johnson, Mrs Matthews and Mrs Harris does not match up to the word "flogging". However, I do not think that it is necessary to explore the matter in any further detail. Whatever cause of action Mrs Cubillo might have had against the Aborigines Inland Mission and members of its staff, that cause of action does not extend, in negligence, to the Director or the Commonwealth. The conclusion at which I have arrived with respect to Mrs Cubillo also applies to Mr Gunner. The conduct of Mr Walter and that of Mr Constable might have led to an award of damages against each of them and their respective employers, but not against the Directors. Apart from his indirect involvement in the appointment of the Superintendent of an institution, the Director had no involvement in the choosing of staff. That was the sole responsibility of the mission and the mission alone, to the exclusion of the Director, would have borne the consequences of an employee's misconduct. The Commonwealth is further removed from risk because neither applicant has pleaded that it was liable in respect of any tort that had been committed by Mr Walter or Mr Constable. 1256 The conclusion that I have reached is that there was no common law duty of care imposed on the Director. That conclusion comes notwithstanding the strong language of ss 5 and 16 of the Aboriginals Ordinance and the equally strong language of the Welfare Ordinance. However, when one reflects, the result is no different to the legal position that exists between a child and a parent. In Hahn v Conley (1971) 126 CLR 276, the High Court held that no duty of care arose merely from the fact that a child was in the care and custody of his grandfather. Barwick CJ said at 283-284: "… the moral duties of conscientious parenthood do not as such provide the child with any cause of action when they are not, or badly, performed or neglected. … whilst in particular situations and because of their nature or elements, there will be a duty on the person into whose care the child has been placed and accepted to take reasonable care to protect the child against foreseeable danger, there is no general duty of care in that respect imposed by the law upon a parent simply because of the blood relationship. Also parents like strangers, may become liable to the child if the child is led into danger by their action." I consider that I should apply these remarks in preference to the views of Lord Hutton in Barrett. 1257 In Williams v Minister [No 2] the plaintiff, a part Aboriginal woman, became a ward of the Aborigines Protection Board; she had been placed in the Board's control and custody with the consent and at the request of her mother. Some of the complaints that were advanced on behalf of the plaintiff were to the following effect: "On the state of knowledge during that period (1942-1960) the Board would have known, or ought to have known, that the relationship of child and parent or parent figure was vital to the emotional well being of the child and of the risk of psychological damage as a result of 'inadequate parenting'. Accordingly its minimum duty required it to take steps to monitor her progress steps having regard to information that could have been obtained through monitoring and visiting her and by sending her to Child Guidance Clinics or other experts. The board did not visit her between 1947-1960 and, had it done so, it would have obtained reports that warranted her being treated for mental or emotional problems. She would have received appropriate remedial care and would not have developed an attachment disorder which developed into a borderline personality disorder." 1258 In Williams v Minister [No 2], Abadee J held, first, that no established categories of negligence provided any analogy for the novel cause of action in negligence that had been advanced on behalf of the plaintiff: he found that recognition of the duty that had been pleaded could not be considered to be an incremental development of earlier decisions. His Honour then determined whether there were any reasons, as a matter of policy, which would deny the existence of a duty of care in the case before him. In holding that no general duty of care arose, Abadee J held that the policy considerations that had been taken into account by the House of Lords in X (Minors) were directly relevant. In summarising the remarks of Lord Browne-Wilkinson at 749-750 his Honour said at par 775: "First, that a common law duty of care would cut across the whole statutory system for the protection of children at risk. Second, the task of the local authorities and its servants in dealing with children at risk is extraordinarily delicate. Next, if liability were imposed it might well be that local authorities would adopt a more cautious and defensive approach to their duties. Finally, there is the consideration that there was no analogy for the novel category of negligence urged." In so holding, Abadee J rejected the proposition that the public policy considerations taken into account by the House of Lords in X (Minors) might not apply with equal force after a child had been taken into care. In particular, he considered, at par 787 that: "If there be a public policy reason for not permitting a child to sue a parent for 'bad upbringing' or in respect of upbringing generally, I do not see why the same public policy reason ought not to apply where the upbringing is done by another (whether voluntary or compelled). If the parent has only a moral duty (not a legal duty) of upbringing, with a liability to a child essentially only arising from a specific particular situation occurring and not from the relationship of parent-child itself, one can see good reason for concluding that such should similarly be the situation in an upbringing relationship of the type presently under consideration, however it be described. Were it to be otherwise, a higher duty would or could be imposed on the third party (whether it be the Board, a State charitable institution, or a voluntary charitable religious home or even an adopted or foster parent) bringing up the child, than on the natural parent. Further in matters of bonding or attachment, in matters of maternal satisfaction the natural mother has a benefit denied to a third party 'substitute', being that of the force of nature and of natural parenting. The substitute third party (if there can be a true substitute) suffers from the detriment of not being the natural parent by nature and therefore not being able to give what a natural parent can provide … As to the matter of the Board having 'trained staff advising' it should be remembered that this case concerns events in the period 1942-1960. In any event in the area of personality and emotional development there are issues of nature and nurture as well and whether trained staff can be 'true substitutes or surrogates' for natural parents, particularly a mother." These views could cover such complaints as the quality of facilities, clothing and food; after all, despite the benefits of the Welfare State, some families through bad luck or bad management are forced to live in impoverished circumstances. They would not, of course, extend to the conduct of Mr Walter and Mr Constable. 1259 Abadee J recognised the implications of imposing a general duty of care on welfare authorities – they could, so he felt, have serious social, economic and resource consequences. His Honour was also concerned as to how a principle, which would attribute liability to persons other than parents to whom a child's care had been entrusted, could be kept within bounds. That sentiment finds direct reflection in the comments of Gleeson CJ in Perre v Apand Pty Ltd (1999) 164 ALR 606 that the duty to avoid any reasonably foreseeable financial harm needs to be constrained "by some intelligible limits to keep the law of negligence within the bounds of common sense and practicality": at 609-610. In holding that no general duty of care was owed by the Aborigines Protection Board, Abadee J declined to follow the recent decision of the House of Lords in Barrett, relying instead upon the decision of the Court of Appeal in that case; the decision of the New Zealand Court of Appeal in Attorney-General v Prince; the High Court's decision in Hahn v Conley; and the dissenting judgment of Powell JA in Williams v Minister, Aboriginal Land Rights Act 1983 [No 1] (1994) 35NSWLR 497 ("Williams v Minister [No 1]"). I take a somewhat different view. Despite the remarks of Lord Hutton, I am of the opinion that all that the House of Lords decided in Barrett was that it ought not strike-out the statement of claim in view of the possibility that, among the many general allegations made in the pleadings, some specific circumstance might have given rise to a duty of care. Accordingly, the Court held that it was appropriate for the matter to be left to trial. The issue that has concerned me and has stopped me from an unqualified acceptance of the views of Abadee J is that there are circumstances where the law will intervene in the parent/child relationship. Two examples are sufficient to make this point; in the first place criminal sanctions would be imposed on a parent in the same manner as they would be imposed on a professional or charitable carer if a parent were to beat a child excessively or sexually abuse the child. Secondly, welfare legislation would be quickly used to remove a child from the custody of the child's parents if it were thought that the child was neglected or in need of care. It is true that the law cannot legislate for warmth, tenderness and love but it can and it does afford measures of protection to children against ill-treatment and inadequate treatment at the hands of others, including the child's parents. 1260 The decision of Studdert J in TC v State of New South Wales [1997] NSWSC 31 was a case where the statutory authority was held liable in negligence. However, in my opinion that case is distinguishable because of the relevant statutory provisions which created a mandatory obligation on the Department of Youth Services to act upon a complaint. The plaintiff had sued the Minister as being vicariously liable for the torts of officers of the Department of Youth and Community Services. He alleged that officers of the Department, knowing of allegations that he was being physically and sexually abused whilst in his mother's care, failed to investigate the complaints properly and failed to remove him. Section 148B(5) of the Child Welfare Act 1939 (NSW) relevantly provided that: "Where the Director has been notified under sub-section (2) or (3) he shall – (a) promptly cause an investigation to be made into the matters notified to him; and (b) if he is satisfied that the child in respect of whom he was notified may have been assaulted, ill-treated or exposed, take such action as he believes appropriate, which may include reporting those matters to a constable of police." His Honour held at par 170: "I am also satisfied that the Child Welfare Act created the necessary proximity for a duty of care to arise. The statutory scheme established a particular relationship once a notification under s 148B was received, thereby imposing the mandatory requirements upon the director earlier considered. The vulnerability of a young child considered to be at risk is self-evident." His Honour considered but distinguished X (Minors), Barrett and Hillman v Black on the ground that, in each case, the relevant legislation differed in significant respects. 1261 The statutory duties that were imposed on the Directors, as distinct from the Commonwealth, were those principally found in s 5 of the 1918 Ordinance and s 8 of the Welfare Ordinance. Under the 1918 Ordinance those duties, inter alia, included the following: "(c) to provide, as far as practicable, for the supply of food, medical attendance, medicines, and shelter for the sick, aged and infirm aboriginals; (d) to provide, when possible, for the custody, maintenance, and education of the children of aboriginals; … (f) to exercise a general supervision and care over all matters affecting the welfare of the aboriginals, and to protect them against immorality, injustice, imposition and fraud." The presence of the words "as far as practicable" and "when possible" are indicators that the duties were never intended to be absolute; the legislation did not impose any mandatory duties on the Directors. The language of the Welfare Ordinance was materially different and expressed in far greater detail. The duties of the Director of Welfare as set out in par 8(a) of the Ordinance were as follows: "8. It is the duty of the Director – (a) in relation to wards, to take steps – (i) to promote their social, economic and political advancement for the purpose of assisting them and their descendants to take their place as members of the community of the Commonwealth; (ii) to arrange as far as is practicable for the education of wards, including their vocational training, by collaboration with, and assistance to, the education authority and educational institutions and in other appropriate ways; (iii) to promote their physical well being, to inculcate proper habits of hygiene and sanitation and to improve their standards of nutrition and housing; (iv) to detect, prevent and cure disease and for that purpose to establish and maintain a liaison with the Commonwealth Department of Health; (v) to arrange for their vocational training and to obtain suitable employment for them in industrial and other enterprises and for this purpose to establish and maintain a liaison with appropriate organizations; (vi) to provide such relief and assistance as is necessary or appropriate; and (vii) to exercise a general supervision and care over matters affecting their welfare." There are several passages in s 8 that are worthy of mention. In the first place subpar 8(a)(i) was the legislative sanction for the application of a policy of assimilation; the Director was to promote the wards (and Mr Gunner was a ward) so that they might take their place "as members of the community of the Commonwealth". Secondly, the responsibility to arrange for the education of wards was qualified by the presence of the words "as far as is practicable". Those words, which appear in subpar 8(a)(ii) do not appear in subpar 8(a)(v) which also deals with education but I would think that the common usage of the words "vocational training" would mean that the latter subpar was qualified in the same way as the former. The remaining subpars, dealing as they do with matters of health, hygiene and relief all add up to the conclusion that it was beneficial legislation – not punitive legislation – intended to promote the welfare and advancement in life of the wards who were covered by it. That, in my opinion, was the setting in which s 8 of the Welfare Ordinance thereafter made provision for the Director of Welfare: "(c) to supervise and regulate the use and management of institutions, other than institutions established by the Commonwealth." There was therefore, clearly a statutory duty to supervise and regulate St Mary's. Whilst it was not expressed in the same clear terms in the 1918 Ordinance I would be prepared, as I have already said, to find that the combination of powers in ss 5, 6 and 16 of that Ordinance, would be sufficient to imply that the same duty of supervision and regulation was imposed on the Director of Native Affairs under that Ordinance. 1262 There was however, a particular argument that was advanced by the Commonwealth with which I cannot agree. It was submitted that the continuing detention of a part Aboriginal child in an institution cannot be treated separately from the original direction by or order of the Director that the child be kept within the institution; that is, the bare placement of a child in an institution could not be said to have created a situation of danger or risk such as to give rise to a duty of care. That is not correct in my opinion. The Aboriginals Ordinance required that private institutions be approved as institutions "for the maintenance, custody and care of aboriginals" and, by definition, such institutions were required to be a "mission station, reformatory, orphanage, school, home or other institution for the benefit, care or protection of aboriginals". The types of institutions that could be approved under the Welfare Ordinance were similarly limited. The Commonwealth submitted that it was at that stage – at the stage of approving an institution – that a decision was made that the institution was an appropriate one to assume the care and control of the Aboriginal children placed in it. Hence, so it was claimed, against that statutory context, it could not be said that merely by placing a child in an approved institution the Director was creating a situation where the child was placed in danger: for example, placement in an approved institution which was run by dedicated missionaries could scarcely be presumed to be dangerous to a child who was placed there. The fallacy in that submission was that it overlooked the possibility that the standards of an institution might materially deteriorate. The proper view in my opinion is that there was an ongoing duty on the Director – by his powers of supervision and regulation – to ensure that the institution maintained an appropriate standard. That is not to say that the Director thereby had the day to day control of the institution; that was left to the Home's management; and as I have already said, the Director had no power to hire and fire the institution's staff. 1263 No findings can now be made that coercive statutory powers of removal were exercised negligently; such evidence, as still exists, of the events and matters that have been put in issue by the pleadings, would more likely than not, favour findings that the Directors acted within their power and with reasonable care. In any event, as I have said, where there is an absence of evidence, that absence cannot be used as a base upon which to build a finding of liability against a Director or the Commonwealth. In other words, even if the Commonwealth owed either applicant a common law duty of care, there was no evidence to support a finding in the case of the two applicants that there was a breach of that duty. 1264 In the case of Mrs Cubillo there was no evidence relating to the circumstances preceding her removal from Phillip Creek; we do not know what opinion if any was formed, who formed it or why it was formed. The Court cannot make an assumption or draw an inference in Mrs Cubillo's favour out of sympathy for what happened to her. I come then to her detention; ss 6 and 16 gave a statutory power to the Director of Native Affairs which, if utilised by him, would have lawfully authorised him to place her in the Retta Dixon Home and keep her there during his guardianship. Once again there is a void in the evidence; we do not know why the Director decided to place her in the Retta Dixon Home or (if it be the case) agree to her going to the Home. The two people who could have answered those questions, Mr Moy and Miss Shankelton are both dead. It would be most inappropriate to make an adverse finding against the Director based on nothing more than sympathy for Mrs Cubillo. 1265 The factual position concerning Mr Gunner is entirely different but the result is the same. He was not removed by the Director in the exercise of his statutory powers; he was taken from his family in Utopia at the request of his mother so that he might be housed and educated at Alice Springs. Probably it was Mr Kitching who took him to Alice Springs but, in so doing, he was acting on behalf of the mother and not in the exercise of the Director's statutory powers. Unlike Mrs Cubillo, there was evidence concerning the circumstances of Mr Gunner's detention at St Mary's. It was implemented, as a matter of law, by the Director's committal, but, as a matter of fact, at his mother's request. There was no evidence that the act of committal and the subsequent detention were beyond the powers of the Director. The structure of the legislation specifically contemplated a utilisation of Aboriginal institutions for the statutory purpose of caring for part Aboriginal children: see subs 16(1) and subs 13(6) of the Aboriginals Ordinance. The power of supervision and regulation of institutions that was contained in par 8(c) of the Welfare Ordinance did not amount to a power to control the management of the institutions (c.f. par 8(d) of the Welfare Ordinance). All of the oral evidence and much of the written evidence confirmed that the institutions alone controlled the hiring and firing of staff. The legislation allowed for a joint exercise by the Director and the missions. The formal power of removal and detention rested exclusively with the Director; however, once those powers were exercised, the care of a particular child could be handed over to a licensed Aboriginal institution and the Superintendent of that institution would then take over the control and supervision of the child. Under the Aboriginals Ordinance there was no specific reservation of power, as there was in the Welfare Ordinance, to supervise or regulate the use and management of the institution but that power existed in a de facto sense because of the Government's funding program and the Administrator's power to revoke the declaration that the institution was an Aboriginal institution. 1266 I attempt now to draw together some conclusions. I will deal first with Mrs Cubillo. Sad though her complaints may be about the lack of warmth and love and affection, I do not regard those matters to be justiciable. The evidence of Mrs Cubillo about the severity of corporal punishment – and her repeated use of the word "floggings" while supported in varying degrees by some of her witnesses, was challenged by the Commonwealth's witnesses who were associated with Retta Dixon Home. No one, either then or now, would tolerate children being "flogged". That word conjures up images of brutality, but I am not satisfied that "flogging" correctly describes the corporal punishment to which Mrs Cubillo was subjected as a child. The contradictory evidence, coupled with the different attitude towards corporal punishment in those days leads me to conclude that, on the balance of probabilities, the punishment that was administered was severe but not excessively so. That conclusion does not, of course, extend to Mr Walter's conduct. 1267 The facilities and amenities at the Retta Dixon Home were not good but they were not so bad as to create a cause of action. Having regard to the evidence that was given, Darwin was still recovering from the aftermath of the war; money was scarce; the conditions at Retta Dixon Home were, at the least, better than those at Phillip Creek and Mrs Cubillo did not make any complaint with respect to the Phillip Creek conditions. 1268 I turn then to St Mary's and Mr Gunner. I repeat what I have said about Mrs Cubillo on the subjects of emotional comfort and corporal punishment. I have however a different attitude towards the conditions of the Hostel. What good would be achieved in giving the Director of Welfare a power to "supervise and regulate" St Mary's, if he could stand back and allow those intolerable conditions to exist. He had the power to remove the children: he should have done so. In my opinion, the view that I have formed translates into a duty of care for the welfare of those children. It was not a duty that would be readily breached. Regard would always be had to the public role of the Director and the charitable objects of the institution. But there would come a time when the most detached and objective observer would cry "Enough". Retta Dixon did not descend to that level – St Mary's did. Nevertheless, the duty of care rested on the Director; it did not rest on the Commonwealth and the Commonwealth was not vicariously liable for the omissions of the Director. 1269 In summary form, I have reached the following conclusions: · the Commonwealth did not owe either applicant a duty of care; · with respect to their removal and detention, the Director of Native Affairs did not owe either applicant a duty of care so long as he was acting within the parameters of s 6 of the Aboriginals Ordinance and the Director of Welfare did not owe Mr Gunner a duty of care; · if, contrary to these findings, one or other of the Directors did owe an applicant a common law duty of care there were no breaches of that duty; · if, contrary to these findings, one or other of the Directors did owe an applicant a common law duty of care and breached it, the Commonwealth is not vicariously responsible for that breach; · with respect to the conditions of the two institutions the Directors owed duties of care; · in the case of Mrs Cubillo there was no breach of that duty; and · in the case of Mr Gunner, there was a breach of that duty but there was no breach by the Commonwealth and the Commonwealth is not vicariously responsible for the breach by the Director. Fiduciary Duty 1270 In pursuing their claims that fiduciary relationships existed and that there had been breaches of fiduciary duties, the applicants relied, essentially, on the same evidence upon which they based their claims that there had been breaches of duties of care. They pursued their claims from three directions. First, they alleged the existence of a fiduciary relationship between each of them and the Commonwealth. Next, they alleged the existence of a fiduciary relationship between each of them and the Directors claiming that the Commonwealth had a vicarious liability for the Directors' breaches of their fiduciary duties. Finally, they claimed that the Commonwealth knowingly participated in the Directors' breaches of their fiduciary duties. 1271 The recognition by the Courts of the existence of a fiduciary relationship and the duties arising as a consequence of that relationship has developed with the objective of ensuring that holders of positions of trust or power do not abuse their authority to the detriment of those who are vulnerable and dependent upon them; the law has developed case by case, largely by analogy. As Gibbs CJ explained in Hospital Products Ltd v United States Surgical Corporation (1984) 156 CLR 41 at 68: "The authorities contain much guidance as to the duties of one who is in a fiduciary relationship with another, but provide no comprehensive statement of the criteria by reference to which the existence of a fiduciary relationship may be established. The archetype of a fiduciary is of course the trustee, but it is recognized by the decisions of the courts that there are other classes of persons who normally stand in a fiduciary relationship to one another – e.g., partners, principal and agent, director and company, master and servant, solicitor and client, tenant-for-life and remainderman. There is no reason to suppose that these categories are closed. However, the difficulty is to suggest a test by which it may be determined whether a relationship, not within one of the accepted categories, is a fiduciary one." 1272 Mason J, in the same case, in addressing the same subject, also acknowledged that the categories of fiduciary relationship are not closed. His Honour referred to them as "relationships of trust and confidence or confidential relations". He then described the critical feature of those relationships in this manner at 96-97: "… the fiduciary undertakes or agrees to act for or on behalf of or in the interests of another person in the exercise of a power or discretion which will affect the interests of that other person in a legal or practical sense. The relationship between the parties is therefore one which gives the fiduciary a special opportunity to exercise the power or discretion to the detriment of that other person who is accordingly vulnerable to abuse by the fiduciary of his position. The expressions 'for', 'on behalf of', and 'in the interests of' signify that the fiduciary acts in a 'representative' character in the exercise of his responsibility, to adopt an expression used by the Court of Appeal." 1273 Much the same was said by Gaudron and McHugh JJ in Breen v Williams (1996) 186 CLR 71. Referring to the remarks of Gibbs CJ and Mason J in Hospital Products Ltd v United States Surgical Corporation, their Honours said at 106: "Australian courts have consciously refrained from attempting to provide a general test for determining when persons or classes of persons stand in a fiduciary relationship with one another. This is because … the term 'fiduciary relationship' defies definition." 1274 The following plea appears in par 36A of Mrs Cubillo's statement of claim: "At and following the removal and detention of the Applicant the [Commonwealth] was in a fiduciary relationship with the Applicant and owed fiduciary duties to her." The same allegation appears in par 57A of Mr Gunner's statement of claim. 1275 There then follows, in successive paragraphs, the details of: · the facts and circumstances that were said to give rise to that fiduciary relationship; · the fiduciary duties that the Commonwealth allegedly owed to each applicant; and · the alleged breaches of those fiduciary duties. 1276 The fiduciary relationship between the Commonwealth and each applicant was said to arise because of the role and functions of the Commonwealth's servants and agents in the removal and detention of the applicants and because of the Commonwealth's powers over, and its assumption of responsibility for, Aboriginal people in the Northern Territory. It was also said to arise because of the powers, obligations and discretions of the Directors and the vulnerability of each applicant to the exercise of those powers and discretions. Next, it was said to arise because of the powers, obligations and discretions of the Administrator and the obligation on the Administrator to administer the Northern Territory on behalf of the Commonwealth and in accordance with the instructions of the relevant Commonwealth Minister. 1277 The fiduciary duties that were said to exist and that were said to be owed by the Commonwealth to each applicant, as set out below, have been extracted from par 36C of Mrs Cubillo's statement of claim. The same duties are to be found listed in par 57C of Mr Gunner's statement of claim: "(a) to have regard to and act in the best interests of the Applicant; (b) to avoid any conflict, or any possibility of conflict, between its interests and the interests of the Applicant; (c) to avoid any conflict, or any possibility of conflict, between its interests and its duty to the Applicant; (d) not to make improper use of its position to gain an advantage indirectly or directly for any party other than the Applicant, or to cause detriment to the Applicant; (e) to appoint proper institutions or persons to fulfil the role and duties of guardian of the Applicant and other abovementioned duties contained in the Aboriginals Ordinance while the Applicant was detained in an institution; (f) to properly supervise any institution or person into whose care the Applicant was placed in the performance of the various duties owed to the Applicant; (g) to advise the Applicant of her rights in respect of leaving the care, custody and control of the Respondent and returning to her mother; and (h) to advise the Applicant that she should obtain independent advice and to provide such resources as would enable her to obtain that advice." 1278 The alleged breaches by the Commonwealth of its fiduciary duties are set out in detail in par 36D of Mrs Cubillo's, and par 57D of Mr Gunner's further amended statements of claim. They are extensive and are set out as a schedule to these reasons. With a few alterations, the same alleged breaches were used in support of the claims for breaches of statutory duty and the common law duty of care. 1279 The pleadings then switched from the Commonwealth to the Director of Native Affairs. In par 37 of Mrs Cubillo's statement of claim the following allegation appears: "Further or in the alternative, at and following the removal and detention of the Applicant the Director of Native Affairs was in a fiduciary relationship with the Applicant and owed fiduciary duties to her." 1280 A similar plea is to be found in Mr Gunner's statement of claim save that his was expanded to include an allegation that, with effect from 13 May 1957, there was also a fiduciary relationship between him and the Director of Welfare. As with the claims against the Commonwealth, there then followed details of: · the facts and circumstances that were said to give rise to that fiduciary relationship; · the fiduciary duties that the Director allegedly owed to each applicant; and · the alleged breaches of those fiduciary duties. 1281 Although there are differences in the detail of the allegations against the Directors when they are compared with the allegations that have been mounted against the Commonwealth, the allegations against the Directors did not raise new matters and hence, it is not necessary to refer to them in detail save, perhaps, to mention for the sake of completeness that the particulars that are set out in the schedule to these reasons are included in the allegations against the Directors. 1282 The Commonwealth was then brought back into the picture because there was a specific plea in each further amended statement of claim that it "knowingly participated in the breaches of fiduciary duty" that were allegedly committed by the Directors: see par 40A of Mrs Cubillo's and par 61A of Mr Gunner's statement of claim. That allegation against the Commonwealth was supported by the assertions that were much the same as those that were pleaded in par 31A of Mrs Cubillo's, and par 43A of Mr Gunner's further amended statements of claim: (they being the paragraphs in which it was alleged that the Commonwealth actively promoted and caused the imprisonment of the applicants). There was, however, an important additional assertion. It was alleged that the Commonwealth knew of the fiduciary relationship between the Directors and each applicant and that it knew of the several breaches of the fiduciary duties of the Directors. 1283 The Commonwealth has denied, in each case, that any fiduciary relationship arose between the applicants and the Director of Native Affairs and (in the case of Mr Gunner) the Director of Welfare. Furthermore if, contrary to that denial, there was such a relationship, then the Commonwealth has denied that the Director of Native Affairs and (in the case of Mr Gunner) the Director of Welfare were involved in any conduct that could have amounted to a breach of any fiduciary duty. 1284 Circumstances that may give rise to the creation of a fiduciary relationship include such matters as inequality of bargaining power, an undertaking to act in the interests of another person, an ability to exercise a power or a discretion that may affect the rights of another and issues of dependency and vulnerability. What is more, fiduciary duties may arise from a relationship that has been created by statute: Northern Land Council v Commonwealth of Australia (1987) 75 ALR 210 at 215 per the Court and The Wik Peoples v The State of Queensland (1996) 187 CLR 1 at 96 per Brennan CJ. 1285 The Commonwealth has argued that the conferral of statutory powers on the Director of Native Affairs and (in the case of Mr Gunner) on the Director of Welfare did not create fiduciary relationships. It submitted that the mere existence of a statutory power, even though its exercise will affect a person whose rights are vulnerable to its exercise, does not, of itself, give rise to a fiduciary duty. For the relationship to exist, more must be established. The Commonwealth argued that an essential element was missing: that is, the element that has been described as the undertaking or the agreement to act for, or on behalf of, or in the interests of, another person in a legal or practical sense, rendering the other person vulnerable to abuse by the fiduciary: Hospital Products Ltd v United States Surgical Corporation at 96‑97 per Mason J. 1286 The High Court, in Northern Land Council v Commonwealth of Australia was of the view that the question whether there was a fiduciary relationship was a question of fact to be resolved at trial. In that case the matter came before the High Court as a case stated. It dealt with the provisions of an agreement between the Northern Land Council and the Commonwealth and with legislative provisions concerning the mining for uranium on land in Kakadu – "the Ranger land". The plaintiff commenced proceedings in the original jurisdiction of the High Court seeking certain declaratory relief and injunctions against a mining company; it also pleaded a case for relief in relation to the agreement which was expressed to be based on various grounds, including breach of fiduciary duty. The defendants moved to strike out the statement of claim. One of the questions that was asked in the case stated was whether the facts alleged in the statement of claim disclosed a cause of action for breach of fiduciary duty against the Commonwealth. Those facts were said by the High Court, in a unanimous decision, to be those pleaded in par 35 of the statement of claim. As set out in the judgment they were, at 213: "(a) the fact that the Ranger land became Aboriginal land within the meaning of the Land Rights Act which Act created rights for the benefit of the group; (b) the fact that the Land Rights Act recognised and gave effect to the antecedent native title referred to in para 4A hereof; (c) further, and alternatively, the fact that the Land Rights Act recognised and gave effect to the rights referred to in para 4B hereof. (d) further, and alternatively, the fact that the radical antecedent native title and the rights were enforceable by the group against all other persons subject to the overriding rights of the Crown; … (f) prior to 11 August 1978 and during the negotiations for the s 44 agreement the Commonwealth recognised the antecedent native title of the group. Further, the Commonwealth had resolved and acted upon the assumption that a grant of the Ranger land would be made to a land trust pursuant to the Land Rights Act." Succeeding subparagraphs in the statement of claim then set out particular circumstances that were designed to attract the existence of a fiduciary relationship. The Court rejected an argument that the Commonwealth came under a fiduciary duty to the plaintiff or to the Aboriginal people who were interested in the Ranger land as a result of the Commonwealth being a party to negotiations for an agreement under the terms of the relevant legislation; there was nothing to suggest that the Commonwealth had any duty to the Land Council. On the other hand, the Court commented at 215 that, given different circumstances: "… the Commonwealth may come under a fiduciary duty in its negotiations with the Land Council. That depends on issues of fact and, perhaps, on the nature of the interests of the Aboriginals (whether statutory or common law interests) in the land the subject of the negotiations." Referring to Hospital Products v United States Surgical Corporation at 68 per Gibbs CJ and 96 per Mason J where their Honours had pointed out that the categories of fiduciary relationship were not closed, the Court concluded at 215: "Likewise, the question whether other allegations in the amended statement of claim might give rise to a fiduciary relationship should not be determined in the abstract but should be determined in the light of the facts found at the trial." 1287 In support of their contention in the present proceedings that their circumstances gave rise to a fiduciary relationship such that the Commonwealth owed them fiduciary duties, the applicants relied on what they described as "the vast power of the Commonwealth in relation to its control over Aboriginal people". Counsel for the applicants submitted that it was a power that could be exercised "unilaterally" and that it was a power that "brought about a total inequality of position" in relation to the Commonwealth and each of the applicants; counsel submitted that the scope of the Commonwealth's duty was to be moulded to the nature of the relationship which conjured up terms such as "vulnerability", "oppression", "guardianship" and the expectations of people in relation to what they could expect of someone who purportedly acts in their interests. 1288 In making these submissions, counsel for the applicants relied on the decision of the High Court in Bennett v Minister for Community Welfare [1992] 176 CLR 408. In that case the plaintiff, a sixteen year old boy, was a ward of the State; he was injured at the institution where he was in care while using a saw without a proper guard; he lost four fingers. It was common ground that he would have been entitled to recover damages from the defendant and that he would have sought to recover them if he had known of such entitlement. It was also accepted that the Director of Community Welfare ("the Director") was under a duty to obtain legal advice for the ward about his right to recover damages. The Director failed to discharge that duty, and in due course, the plaintiff's action became statute barred. Before the expiration of the limitation period, the wardship ceased and the plaintiff obtained legal advice. However, he was incorrectly advised that he had no cause of action against the defendant save for a claim for worker's compensation. After his action became statute-barred, he received correct advice and sued the defendant for general damages in relation to the loss suffered as a consequence of the Director's failure to obtain legal advice. The trial judge held that the plaintiff was not entitled to recover damages and an appeal to the Full Court of the Supreme Court of Western Australia was dismissed. The plaintiff was, however, successful in the High Court. His amended statement of claim had asserted a breach of duty by the Director to secure independent legal advice for him with respect to the injury. It was not disputed that there was such a duty on the part of the Director as claimed in the proceedings, that there was a breach of that duty and that, if liability arose from that breach, it attached to the Minister vicariously. However, at all stages, liability was denied on the basis that the plaintiff obtained legal advice with respect to his injury, which advice was to the effect that he had no right of action at common law. That advice was wrong, and, according to the argument that was advanced on behalf of the Minister, it was the faulty advice that was the cause of him losing his right to bring proceedings for damages for personal injury. In their joint judgment, Mason CJ, Deane and Toohey JJ described the duty that was owed to the plaintiff as a fiduciary duty. They said at 411: "It is not now in question that there was a duty of care owed by the Director of Community Welfare ('the Director') to the appellant and that there was a breach of that duty (for which, it is agreed, the Minister was vicariously liable). In the courts below, the duty of care appears to have been equated to, even derived from, a fiduciary duty owed by the Director to the appellant arising out of his statutory office as guardian. That fiduciary duty was a positive duty to obtain independent legal advice with respect to the possible existence of a cause of action on the part of the appellant arising out of the circumstances in which he sustained an amputation of four fingers of his left hand." Gaudron J did not address the subject of fiduciary duty but the remaining member of the Court, McHugh J, said at 427: "Nevertheless, it is not open to doubt that, in addition to the fiduciary duty which the Director owed to the appellant, the circumstances of the guardianship and the injury to the appellant while under the care and control of the Director gave rise to a common law duty on the part of the latter to take reasonable care to ensure that the appellant did not suffer economic loss by not being advised of his rights in respect of that injury." 1289 Counsel for the applicants argued, on the authority of Bennett v Minister for Community Welfare, that there had been a failure by the Commonwealth "to advise the applicants of their legal rights, or advise them to obtain independent advice in relation to their rights". However, that argument must fall by the wayside because of my factual findings that the applicants have failed to prove that any of their rights were infringed. 1290 In Williams v Minister [No 1], a prior decision to that of Abadee J in the litigation between the same parties, Kirby P followed the decision of the High Court in Bennett v Minister for Community Welfare and the remarks of Dawson J in Hospital Products Ltd v United States Surgical Corporation at 141 in holding that the relationship of guardian and ward "is one of the established fiduciary categories": at 511. In Bennett v Minister for Community Welfare the statutory regime of guardianship was accepted as sufficient to create a fiduciary duty; a Full Court of this Court in Paramasivam v Flynn (1998) 160 ALR 203 also acknowledged that a relationship of guardian and ward may – not will – "give rise to duties typically characterised as fiduciary": at 218. 1291 It was submitted that I should regard myself as bound to hold, as a result of the decision of the Full Court in Paramasivam v Flynn, that on the pleadings, neither Mrs Cubillo nor Mr Gunner has a cause of action against the Commonwealth for breach of fiduciary duty. In that case, where there were allegations of sexual assault by a guardian on his ward; the Court acknowledged that the conduct that had been alleged against the respondent could be described in terms of "abuse of a position of trust or confidence" but, so it held, such a description did not thereby mean that the applicant should succeed in an action for breach of fiduciary duty, even though the allegations were made good. The conclusion that was reached by the Full Court can be appreciated from the following passages from its joint judgment at 218: "In Anglo-Australian law, the interests which the equitable doctrines invoked by the appellant, and related doctrines, have hitherto protected are economic interests. If property is transferred or a transaction entered into as a result of undue influence, then the transaction may be set aside or, no doubt, the appellant may be compensated for loss resulting from the transaction; similarly if a transaction is induced by unconscionable conduct; so, in cases usually classified as involving fiduciary obligations not to allow interest to conflict with duty, the interests protected have been economic. If a fiduciary, within the scope of the fiduciary obligation, makes an unauthorised profit or takes for himself or herself an unauthorised commercial advantage, then the person to whom the duty is owed has a remedy." Later the Court said at 219: "Here, the conduct complained of is within the purview of the law of tort, which has worked out and elaborated principles according to which various kinds of loss and damage, resulting from intentional or negligent wrongful conduct, is to be compensated. That is not a field on which there is any obvious need for equity to enter and there is no obvious advantage to be gained from equity's entry upon it. And such an extension would, in our view, involve a leap not easily to be justified in terms of conventional legal reasoning." In coming to its decision, the Full Court referred to, but declined to follow, the decision of the Supreme Court of Canada in M(K) v M(H) (1992) 96 DLR (4th) 289, a case where claims had been made in tort and for breach of a fiduciary duty arising out of an alleged incestuous relationship between a parent and child. La Forest J on behalf of the Court said at 327: "Indeed, the essence of the parental obligation in the present case is simply to refrain from inflicting personal injuries upon one's child." The Full Court in Paramasivam v Flynn reacted to that statement by saying at 220: "With great respect, there can be no doubt that that is a fundamental aspect of a parent's obligation; and it is one which should be, and is, appropriately protected by law. It does not follow, however, that 'fiduciary' is the right label for it, still less that equitable intervention is necessary, appropriate or justified by any principled development of equity's doctrines." The unsuccessful plaintiff in Paramasivam v Flynn failed in his application for special leave to appeal to the High Court. 1292 The Court of Appeal of the Supreme Court of New South Wales (by a majority) in Williams v Minister [No 1] elected to follow the Canadian decision in M(K) v M(H). As I have earlier noted, the plaintiff in Williams v Minister [No 1] was a woman of Aboriginal descent who had been placed at birth in a home for Aboriginal children at her mother's request by the Aboriginal Welfare Board. Later she was moved by the Board to a home for "white" children because she was fair-skinned. She was almost fifty years of age before she instituted proceedings alleging that she suffered a personality disorder as a result of her childhood experiences. She applied, unsuccessfully, for an extension of time within which to proceed against the relevant authorities for negligence, breach of duty and wrongful detention. In addition to those causes of action, there was also a claim for equitable compensation for an alleged breach of fiduciary duty. On appeal, the Court of Appeal of the Supreme Court of New South Wales (Kirby P and Priestley JA; Powell JA dissenting) ordered that the limitation period for the causes of action that were set out in the plaintiff's statement of claim be extended. As to the alleged breach of fiduciary duty, Kirby P said that the authorities were, "arguably, obliged to Ms Williams to act in her interest and in a way that truly provided, in a manner apt for a fiduciary, for her 'custody, maintenance and education'": at 511. Priestley JA, in a short concurring judgment said at 516: "… it seems to me desirable that Ms Williams have the opportunity of putting all relevant evidence before the court at a trial, rather than that the matters of significance which the case raises should be dealt with on the incomplete state of the evidence at present before the Court." 1293 In declining to follow the approach of the New South Wales Court of Appeal in Williams v Minister [No 1], the Full Court in Paramasivam v Flynn pointed out that the High Court, in Breen v Williams had made it clear that it did not agree with aspects of the Canadian Court's approach: see, for example, Brennan CJ at 83. 1294 Breen v Williams was a case where a patient sued her doctor unsuccessfully for the right to inspect her medical records. Dawson and Toohey JJ, in their joint judgment at 95, referred to a tendency: "… not found in this country, but to be seen in the United States and to a lesser extent Canada, to view a fiduciary relationship as imposing obligations which go beyond the exaction of loyalty and as displacing the role hitherto played by the law of contract and tort by becoming an independent source of positive obligations and creating new forms of civil wrong." Gaudron and McHugh JJ, in criticising the Canadian authorities, commented that "the Canadian law on fiduciary duties is very different from the law of this country": at 112. They also said at 113: "One significant difference is the tendency of Canadian courts to apply fiduciary principles in an expansive manner so as to supplement tort law and provide a basis for the creation of new forms of civil wrongs." Gummow J, the remaining member of the Court, was of the view at 132 that "there is no substance in these submissions" that incidents of the relationship between a medical practitioner and patient may attract equitable intervention. 1295 Two recent cases show that the class of those who stand in a fiduciary relationship continues to grow. The first of them was Brunninghausen v Glavanics (1999) 46 NSWLR 538. That was a case in which the issue was whether the defendant, the sole effective director of a company and its majority shareholder, owed a fiduciary duty to the plaintiff when the plaintiff sold his shares in the company to the defendant and the defendant's wife. Bearing in mind that the case was one that dealt with financial interests, Handley JA, with whom Priestley and Stern JJA agreed, said at 555: "Some of the traditional fiduciary relationships, such as partners, principal and agent, solicitor and client, and priest and penitent are created by the more or less free choice of the parties. Subject to contractual restraints, the person to whom fiduciary duties are owed in these relationships is free to terminate them at any time. Other relationships, such as guardian and ward, parent and child, and trustee and beneficiary arise by operation of law or from the acts of others. The parties in these relationships to whom fiduciary duties are owed did not enter into those relationships voluntarily and are not free to terminate them." 1296 The second case was the decision of the Full Court of the Supreme Court of Western Australia in Clay v Clay (1999) 20 WAR 427. That was a case in which a mother and step-mother together with her child and her three step-children (being children of her deceased husband's first marriage) were beneficiaries in her husband's estate. She purchased a house property, a trust asset, from the trustee of the estate in 1973. Some twenty years later the step-children challenged the transaction alleging that the sale had been made under value. The Court came to the conclusion that the step-mother, in purchasing the property, stood in a fiduciary relationship with her step-children as their guardian. In a unanimous decision, the Court said that "it can be readily accepted that a guardian is in a fiduciary relationship with a ward". In finding in favour of the step-children, the Court said at 472: "In this case the objective of affording a remedy to the appellants is to vindicate the concern of equity that a guardian should, in all matters, be faithful to the fiduciary responsibility that attaches to guardianship. It is for that purpose, and not to make good any loss suffered by the appellants – there was none – that the declaration of trust is appropriate. For Mrs Clay this decision is likely to mean the loss of her home of over 30 years and a very substantial financial set-back. For the appellants the result is in a real sense a windfall, especially as they will gain the benefit of the significant improvement in the value of the property that has taken place over the intervening years, a change that has far outstripped prevailing interest returns on the original capital of $45,000, as the evidence in this case discloses." 1297 Clay v Clay was, of course, another case that involved economic interests, but the applicants submitted that this Court should not proceed upon a premise that fiduciary obligations are limited to the protection of economic interests only. I do not consider that I need address that proposition. (On 16 June 2000, special leave to appeal to the High Court was granted in Clay v Clay). 1298 Relying upon these authorities, together with the extensive powers that the 1918 Ordinance and the Welfare Ordinance gave to the Directors, and bearing in mind the great vulnerability of part Aboriginal children, the applicants asserted that a fiduciary relationship existed between each of them and the Commonwealth and, also, between each of them and the Director. As the applicants pointed out, the legislation restricted the rights of Aboriginal people in many fundamental areas such as their freedom of movement and association, their right to marry, to work and to deal with property. 1299 It might be said that the passages that I have cited from the Full Court's judgment in Paramasivam v Flynn have a direct application to the facts in each of these cases. Both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner have pleaded that a relationship of guardian and ward existed between the Directors and each of them, that it was a fiduciary relationship and that the personal injuries and losses that they have each suffered resulted from breaches of the duties that existed as a consequence of these fiduciary relationships. Neither of them has pursued a claim that is based on some loss of or damage to an economic interest. They have limited their claims to losses and damages flowing from the psychiatric injuries and cultural losses that they have allegedly suffered. When one studies the substance of their respective claims it becomes apparent, that, in substance, the same factual background that has been used to ground their actions in tort has been used as the basis upon which they have sought to establish the existence of a fiduciary relationship and a breach of the duties that are said to emanate from such a relationship. 1300 In the interlocutory judgment I allowed for the warning in Northern Land Council v Commonwealth of Australia not to determine the nature of any relationship in the abstract. I also allowed for the acceptance in Bennett v Minister for Community Welfare that the relationship of guardian and ward created a fiduciary relationship and for the acknowledgment in Paramasivam v Flynn that the relationship of guardian and ward may give rise to a fiduciary relationship. Those matters then led me to conclude that they were sufficient to persuade me that it would be premature to hold, at that stage, that the applicants had failed to make out a case of a fiduciary relationship on the pleadings. I turn then to consider the specific allegations that have been made by the applicants. 1301 The conflicts involving the applicants and the Commonwealth (or the Directors) that were said by the applicants to exist have created difficulties for me. For example, in par 19 of her further and better particulars that were filed on 29 April 1999, Mrs Cubillo made these claims: "The interests of the [Commonwealth] in: (a) destroying the associations and connections of the Applicant with her Aboriginal mother, family and culture; (b) assimilating 'half caste' children, including the Applicant, into non-Aboriginal society; (c) providing domestic and manual labour for the European community of the Northern Territory; (d) breeding out 'half caste' Aboriginal people and protecting the primacy of the Anglo-Saxon community; (e) not being exposed to the risk of legal action by the Applicant against it or its employees, or any liability to pay damages or equitable compensation to the Applicant; conflicted with the Applicant's interests in: (f) maintaining her associations and connection with her mother, family and culture; (g) achieving and maintaining recognition of her rights, interests and obligations arising under custom and tradition in relation to her mother's and her family's traditional lands; (h) not suffering psychological harm; and (i) being in a position to pursue her legal and equitable remedies against the [Commonwealth] and the Director of Native Affairs." 1302 In par 20 of those particulars, Mrs Cubillo alleged that the stated interests of the Commonwealth conflicted with its duties: · to have regard to and act in her best interests; and · to take reasonable care of her. As for the Director of Native Affairs, Mrs Cubillo pleaded that he had, in complying with the Commonwealth's "requirement" that he act "in accordance with a policy of removal and detention of 'half-caste' children the purpose of which was to" implement the five objectives that were particularised in subpars 19(a) to 19(e), conflicted with her interests in the same manner as had the Commonwealth. She also alleged that he had come into conflict with his own duties which, in par 26 of her further and better particulars, she listed as follows: "(d) to have regard to and act in the best interests of the Applicant; (e) as guardian of the Applicant; (f) under section 5(1)(d) and (f) of the Aboriginals Ordinance; and (g) to take reasonable care in relation to the Applicant." 1303 Save that he referred to the provisions of the Welfare Ordinance Mr Gunner supplied virtually the same particulars. 1304 I would have thought that those allegations raised the issue of an improper purpose on the part of the Commonwealth or the Director. To allege a purpose of assimilation, without more, might have been unexceptional as there might have been those who were of the opinion that assimilation into western society was necessary or desirable in the interests of the part Aboriginal child. However, to allege that the purpose of the removal and detention was (or included) the destruction of the child's association with his or her mother, family and culture and the protection of the primacy of the Anglo-Saxon community would, if true, severely challenge the bona fides of the Commonwealth, the Director and the other servants and agents of the Commonwealth who were charged with the responsibility of implementing the 1918 Ordinance and, later, the Welfare Ordinance. In the interlocutory judgment, I allowed for the possibility that the applicants might be pursuing an improper purpose; that possibility was specifically rejected at one stage of the applicants' submissions, only to find it remaining in these further and better particulars and in their final submissions on the question of fiduciary duties. 1305 Despite the confusion, I am of the opinion that there are short answers to each of these points. The first of them is that it is necessary to distinguish between "purpose" and "consequence". I have found that neither Mrs Cubillo nor Mr Gunner has been able to establish a failure on the part of the Director to comply with the provisions of the legislation. That therefore means that they have failed to prove that the "purpose" of their removals and detentions was (or included) the purpose of destroying their associations and connections with their mothers, families and cultures. Regrettably however, that destruction did occur in each case, but it was as a "consequence" of the implementation of a "purpose" – a "purpose" that could not be identified from the evidence in the case of Mrs Cubillo. In Mr Gunner's case it was as a "consequence" of his mother's decision to ask the Director to commit him to St Mary's. 1306 I have already expressed my views on the issue of assimilation. It was arguable that it was necessary or desirable in the interests of the child. The provision of domestic and manual labour was the subject of some evidence, but insufficient to justify any finding. Mrs Cubillo entered domestic service; her witness Mrs Katona did not. I pass over whether Mr Gunner's stock work should or should not be classified as manual labour or skilled or semi-skilled labour but his work in legal aid was definitely not manual labour. The achievements of Mrs Kunoth-Monks speak for themselves and there was, additionally, evidence of part Aboriginal girls following careers in nursing and missionary work. To pursue unsubstantiated claims of this nature to the bitter end did not do justice to either applicant's case. Finally there was the highly emotive claim that those part Aboriginal children were removed and detained "to breed out 'half caste' Aboriginal people and protect the primacy of the Anglo-Saxon race". There is much that might be said about the preservation of such an allegation in light of the total absence of evidence to support it, but these reasons are already too long. It is true that some of the writings that were tendered in evidence disclosed that there were pre-war writings on the subjects of eugenics and miscegenation but these proceedings are concerned with events that occurred post-war and nothing since the war suggests that such subjects were entertained. I have already expounded at length on the development of the Native Affairs Branch's consultation with the families of the part Aboriginal children. The Leydin memorandum in 1949, the 1952 principles and the Milliken tests in 1959 most readily display an interest and concern in the individual welfare of human beings, albeit that most of today's community would still disagree with the sense of misguided paternalism that then existed. 1307 It would appear to be inappropriate for a judge at first instance, to expand the range of the fiduciary relationship so that it extends, as would be the case here, to a claimed conflict of interests where the conflict did not include an economic aspect. I am persuaded to come to that conclusion for the following reasons: · in Paramasivam v Flynn the Full Federal Court rejected the contention that alleged sexual assaults on a ward by a male guardian could constitute a breach of fiduciary duty; applying Breen v Williams, the order of the court below striking out the application was upheld; · in Williams v Minister [No 2] Abadee J rejected the possibility of any breach of fiduciary duty in circumstances similar to those alleged in the present case (although there was no relationship of statutory guardian); · in Lovejoy v Carp & Ors [1999] VSC 223 (delivered 18 June 1999), O'Bryan J applied Paramasivam v Flynn to hold that various actions for damages for personal injuries against a doctor, a hospital and members of the police force on the ground of breach of fiduciary obligations or of a duty of good faith did not have any real prospects of success and should be treated as founded on tort; and · Prince v Attorney-General [1996] 3 NZLR 733 involved an alleged negligent adoption, the essential complaint being that the plaintiff had ended up with unsatisfactory parents who brought him up badly and damaged his life's prospects. The claim for breach of fiduciary duty was struck out. This aspect of the decision was upheld on appeal in Attorney-General v Prince & Gardner at 277, although the majority concluded that the claim for a breach of a common law duty of care could still be prosecuted. In short, the applicants have not established to my satisfaction that, if they were in a fiduciary relationship with either the Commonwealth or the Directors, there was any breach of that relationship. Extension of Time 1308 Counsel for the applicants acknowledged in his final submissions that the evidence has established that the limitation periods for each of the applicants' causes of action in tort have expired. Hence, both applicants have sought extensions of time for the institution and prosecution of their respective proceedings pursuant to s 44 of the Limitation Act 1981 (NT) ("the Limitation Act"). Prior to the commencement of that Act on 26 February 1982, the relevant legislation had been the South Australian Limitation of Suits and Actions Act 1866 (SA); that Act would have been in force at the time of the removals of Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner and throughout their detentions. However, upon the introduction of the Limitation Act, it was provided that the South Australian Act "shall cease to apply as laws of the Territory": subs 3(2). It was also provided that the new Act was to apply to the exclusion of any South Australian Act containing provisions "relating to the limitation of actions": subs 3(5)(b). 1309 Under both statutes the limitation period for false imprisonment was three years. The Limitation of Suits and Actions Act 1866 (SA) prescribed a limitation period of six years for actions on the case, which would have encompassed negligence and breach of statutory duty. However, the limitation period for all torts was set at three years by the Limitation Act. Section 12 of the Limitation Act provides that an action founded on tort, including a cause of action founded on a breach of statutory duty, is not "maintainable after the expiration of a limitation period of three years from the date on which the cause of action first accrues to the plaintiff …". Section 21 then provides that the provisions of s 12 (and other sections which are not presently relevant) do not apply, "except so far as they may be applied by analogy" to various causes of action for equitable relief. Thus s 12, prima facie, applies to all causes of action that have been raised by Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner other than the allegations in each further amended statement of claim that the Commonwealth has been guilty of breaches of fiduciary duty. 1310 The provisions of s 44 of the Limitation Act, so far as they are relevant to these proceedings, are as follows: "(1) Subject to this section, where this or any other Act, or an instrument of a legislative or administrative character prescribes or limits the time for – (a) instituting an action; (b) doing an act, or taking a step in an action; or (c) doing an act or taking a step with a view to instituting an action, a court may extend the time so prescribed or limited to such an extent, and upon such terms, if any, as it thinks fit. (2) A court may exercise the powers conferred by this section in respect of an action that it – (a) has jurisdiction to entertain; or (b) would, if the action were not out of time, have jurisdiction to entertain. (3) This section does not – (a) apply to criminal proceedings; or (a) empower a court to extend a limitation period prescribed by this Act unless it is satisfied that – (i) facts material to the plaintiff's case were not ascertained by him until some time within 12 months before the expiration of the limitation period or occurring after the expiration of that period, and that the action was instituted within 12 months after the ascertainment of those facts by the plaintiff; or (ii) the plaintiff's failure to institute the action within the limitation period resulted from representations or conduct of the defendant, or a person whom the plaintiff reasonably believed to be acting on behalf of the defendant, and was reasonable in view of those representations or that conduct and other relevant circumstances, and that in all the circumstances of the case, it is just to grant the extension of time. (4) … (5) … (6) …" 1311 The failure by an applicant to satisfy one of the preconditions in subs 44(3) of the Limitation Act means that the Court lacks power to grant an extension of time and the statutory bar will apply. As Maurice J explained in Braedon v Hynes (24 July 1986 NT Supreme Court, unreported), the precondition "is clearly an absolute pre-condition that must be met before there is any question of the Court having a discretion in the matter": at 7. On the other hand, satisfaction of one of the preconditions does no more than empower the Court to grant such an extension and does not of itself require that time be extended. It is also necessary to establish as a separate matter "that in all the circumstances of the case, it is just to grant the extension of time": s 44(3)(b). 1312 As no particulars were given in support of the applications in any of the editions of the statements of claim, the Commonwealth sought further and better particulars of the material facts upon which the applicants were relying in seeking extensions. The particulars that were sought with respect to Mrs Cubillo's application for an extension of time were as follows (the request in respect of Mr Gunner's application being in identical terms): "State each and every material fact relied upon by the applicant in seeking an extension of time under section 44 of the Limitation Act 1981 (NT) and in particular: (a) identify each and every personal injury to the applicant which she will rely upon, and state when, where and how each of the injuries occurred; (b) identify each and every fact material to the applicant's case which was not ascertained by her until 12 months prior to the commencement of these proceedings, and state when, where and how the applicant ascertained each of the facts; (c) give: (i) the usual particulars of any representations; (ii) full particulars of any conduct, of the respondent, or a person whom the applicant reasonably believed to be acting on behalf of the respondent, which it is alleged that the applicant relied upon in failing to institute legal proceedings against the respondent within the limitation period." 1313 Both applicants duly responded; their responses varied marginally because of some personal circumstances but were otherwise drafted in consistent terms. I will first summarise the information that is common to both answers and thereafter mention the material that is personal to one or other of them. In answer to the request to identify each and every personal injury and to state when, where and how each occurred, both applicants referred back to the contents of their statements of claim in which they each had alleged a post-traumatic stress syndrome together with other mental and emotional distress, the loss of cultural, social and spiritual life associated with their mothers and the losses of entitlements and advantages under the Aboriginal Land Rights (Northern Territory) Act 1976 (Cth) ("Land Rights Act"). 1314 They each alleged that those injuries and losses had occurred as a consequence of their removal and detention "by the servants/agents" of the Commonwealth. Both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner then pleaded that they "were unable to say" when they suffered "psychiatric injury", adding that "this is a matter for expert evidence at trial". Mrs Cubillo also pleaded that she suffered physical injury during her detention in Retta Dixon Home. Allegations of physical abuse, whilst he was residing at St Mary's Hostel, were also made by Mr Gunner. 1315 The following statement appeared in Mrs Cubillo's answers to the Commonwealth's requests for further and better particulars: "The Applicant first became aware that she had a potential claim against the Respondent for compensation for personal injuries suffered as a consequence of her removal from her mother and subsequent detention when informed by her solicitors in or about September 1996." 1316 A similar statement appeared in Mr Gunner's answers, save that he said that he was first informed by his counsel in July 1996. Mrs Cubillo claimed that she first became aware that she suffered from post-traumatic stress syndrome and psychiatric injury "consequent upon her removal and detention when informed in Darwin after medical consultation in or about October 1996". Mr Gunner made the same assertion save that he said he was informed in or about November 1996. These answers were given in response to the Commonwealth's request that each applicant identify "every fact material to the applicant's case which was not ascertained by her until twelve months prior to the commencement of these proceedings …". When giving evidence on this subject, Mr Gunner said that he remembered the first lawyer whom he saw in relation to litigation against the Commonwealth; he said that his name was Brian. It was accepted by the parties that Mr Gunner was referring to Mr Brian Keon-Cohen QC. Apparently Mr Keon‑Cohen visited Mr Gunner at Utopia. In answer to a question from his counsel, Mr Gunner said that he thought that he first saw Mr Keon-Cohen sometime in 1997. I think that Mr Gunner was mistaken. Other events point to it being in mid 1996. Mr Gunner also said that he had seen another lawyer, Matthew Storey. It is not clear when he saw Mr Storey but one possibility is that Mr Storey accompanied Mr Keon-Cohen to Utopia. Mr Gunner said that, as a result of seeing the two lawyers, arrangements were made for him to see a doctor in Sydney. He attended on that doctor but, so he said, he has never been told the results of his medical examination. He also said that the lawyers arranged for another doctor to examine him at Utopia. In their amended further and better particulars, both applicants relied on advices given to them by their legal representatives subsequent to the institution of their proceedings: c.f. Ward v Walton (1989) 66 NTR 20. It will be sufficient to reproduce Mrs Cubillo's allegations: "The Applicant met with her solicitors and counsel in January 1997. The Applicant was again informed she had suffered psychiatric injury as a consequence of her removal and detention. The role of the Commonwealth Government was explained to her as was the nature of the claim against the Commonwealth. The Applicant was informed that research was being conducted and that as a consequence of research completed to that date evidence existing implicating the Respondent in her removal and detention and that her removal and detention was part of a general policy of removal and detention by the Respondent that was unlawful and in breach of statutory obligations. At the meeting with her solicitors in December 1997 when the causes of action were explained to her, she was informed in detail, and shown the evidence establishing the Commonwealth's involvement in her removal and detention, that the removal and detention was a part of a general policy of removal and detention by the Respondent that was unlawful, unreasonable and in breach of statutory obligations. The Applicant was also informed there was evidence that demonstrated the Respondent had failed in its duty to properly supervise her welfare and care during her period of detention." 1317 The amendments to the applicants' further and better particulars showed that, in addition to allegedly learning of the diagnoses of psychiatric injuries, they also claimed to rely on the fact that they did not fully appreciate the role of the Commonwealth in their removal and detention and did not learn of its general policy of removal and detention or of evidence that it had failed to supervise properly their welfare, until December 1997 – that is, over twelve months after the institution of their proceedings. Those factors, so it was said, were material facts relevant to all causes of action that had been pleaded by the applicants. In addition to their claims that they have each suffered psychiatric injury because of the actions of the Commonwealth, both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner have also claimed against the Commonwealth for their cultural losses and the losses of their entitlements under the Land Rights Act. 1318 Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner answered, separately and differently, the request for particulars about the representations or conduct of the Commonwealth upon which they allegedly relied, "in failing to institute legal proceedings against the respondent within the limitation period". Mrs Cubillo claimed that she was aware that the Commonwealth by its servants and agents (who were not identified) had represented that the "removal of Northern Territory Aboriginal Children from their mothers was considered for welfare reasons, for the good of such children". She also claimed that she was informed by persons, whom she described as "missionaries", that her detention at the Retta Dixon Home "was the will of God". Mrs Cubillo then alleged that each of those claims (which she classified as "representations") had the effect of inducing in her "a belief that her removal and detention was legitimate and proper conduct by the Respondent". 1319 Mr Gunner answered the request for particulars about the alleged representations and conduct by claiming that during his period of detention some servants or agents of the Commonwealth (who were not identified) told him that his taking from his mother and his institutionalisation "was in his best interests". He, like Mrs Cubillo, then claimed that this representation had the effect of inducing in him "a belief that his removal and detention was legitimate and proper conduct by the Respondent". 1320 In its separate defences (par 47 in the Cubillo proceedings and par 68 in the Gunner proceedings) the Commonwealth has pleaded that, in so far as the applicants seek damages at common law or for breach of statutory duty, their claims are statute barred. The Commonwealth has relied primarily on ss 9, 12 and 36 of the Limitation Act; it also argued that no extension of time pursuant to s 44 of the Limitation Act should be granted to either applicant. In addition to accusing each applicant of unreasonable delay, the Commonwealth has also pleaded that it has been prejudiced by that delay. The following plea is taken from par 47 of the further amended defence in the Cubillo action; an identical plea appears in par 68 of the further amended defence in the Gunner action: "(B) The respondent is now prejudiced by the substantial delay, resulting amongst other things in: (I) the difficulty in identifying and locating witnesses, the availability of such witnesses and the ability of such witnesses now to recall: (x) the circumstances in which (if it be the case) the applicant was taken into care, custody or control; (y) the circumstances relating to the applicant whilst she was in care, custody or control of the Director of Native Affairs or any other employee or agent of the respondent (if it be the case that she was in such care, custody or control); (II) the lack of records relating to the matters referred to in sub-paragraphs (I)(x) and (y) above, either because no written records were made, or such records as were made have been lost or destroyed; (III) the difficulty in proving what facts, matters or things were taken into account by the Director of Native Affairs when making the 1953 committal order or, if it be the case that he made some other order, direction or request in relation to the removal or care, custody or control of the applicant, such other order, direction or request." 1321 The Limitation Act contains a provision in s 36 that time does not run where a person is under a disability; the term "disabled person" is defined to include a person who, by reason of age, is incapable of managing his or her affairs in respect of legal proceedings. There was no contest between the parties on this subject; all arguments proceeded upon the premise that in both cases the applicants were under the disability of infancy until they respectively attained the age of twenty-one. By having regard to the dates of birth, as contained in the applicants' birth certificates, Mrs Cubillo turned twenty-one on 8 August 1959; Mr Gunner reached that age ten years later, on 19 September 1969. 1322 The cause of action for false imprisonment accrues at the time of the imprisonment but the ongoing detention without lawful justification is a continuing wrong. However, the limitation period, subject to the infancy disability, will start to run when the detention ends. On the other hand, causes of action in negligence and for breach of statutory duty will not accrue until each of the elements of duty, of breach of that duty and injury or damage consequential upon that breach are present. Sometimes, and perhaps in the majority of cases, such a cause of action will accrue when the actionable damage is first sustained – physical injuries resulting from the motor car collision, the work place accident and the fall in the supermarket are normal examples of such an event. Yet that general proposition is subject to a qualification that there can be cases where an applicant has sustained different categories of damage as a result of a respondent's wrongful act; in those cases it is possible that the applicant has separate causes of action in respect of each category of damage. 1323 Causes of action in unintentional torts (including negligence and breach of statutory duty) are complete when injury or loss is suffered, even if the applicants are unaware of suffering the loss or damage: Cartledge v E Jopling & Sons Ltd [1963] AC 758. That was a case that dealt with the claims of nine workmen who had contracted pneumoconiosis, a disease in which slowly accruing and progressive damage is caused to a person's lungs without that person being aware of it. The workmen having sued their former employer, the evidence established that many years would have passed before a person discovered that he had suffered substantial injury. The judge at first instance found breaches of statutory duty and assessed damages but held that all claims were barred under the Limitation Act 1939 (UK). At that stage, there was no statutory provision allowing for the grant of an extension of time within which to institute proceedings save for cases of fraud or mistake. The Court of Appeal dismissed the workmen's appeal as did the House of Lords. The House of Lords held that in such cases, the cause of action accrues at the date of the loss or damage when there has been a wrong from which loss or damage is suffered, irrespective of the victim's knowledge of such loss or damage. 1324 Lord Pearce summarised the case for the appellants, at 777-778, as follows: "When the writs were issued, six years had already elapsed since the cessation of the breach which caused the damage. The claims would therefore be barred if the date of the breach of duty was the date on which the causes of action accrued. But negligence and breach of statutory duty are not actionable per se and no cause of action arises unless and until the plaintiff can show some actual injury. Normally the injury is contemporaneous with the wrongful act, but it is not necessarily so. In the present case, therefore, the causes of action did not accrue until some actionable injury was caused to the plaintiffs by the defendants' breach of duty. The judge found that 'each of these men had suffered damage and causes of action had accrued in each case before October 1, 1950.' Mr Waller contends that the judge erred in principle in so finding. First, he contends that the injury to the plaintiffs must be taken to have first occurred when the man became aware of his disease; since a man who does not feel any symptoms or have any knowledge of his physical disease has suffered no injury. Secondly, he argues that even if a cause of action accrued when the unknown injury was done to the lungs, a fresh cause of action accrued when the damage was discovered. Finally, he argues that in the case of injury by such insidious diseases as pneumoconiosis the courts should import into the words of the Limitation Act a gloss that the cause of action does not accrue or time does not begin to run until such time as the plaintiff knows or ought to know that he has suffered injury." But his Lordship rejected these arguments saying at 778-779: "In my opinion, it is impossible to hold that a man who has no knowledge of the secret onset of pneumoconiosis and suffers no present inconvenience from it cannot have suffered any actionable harm. … Nor can his knowledge of the state of his lungs be the deciding factor. It would be impossible to hold that while the X-ray photographs are being taken he cannot yet have suffered any damage to his body, but that immediately the result of them is told to him, he has from that moment suffered damage. It is for a judge or jury to decide whether a man has suffered any actionable harm and in borderline cases it is a question of degree." The Law Lords were consistent in their approach: see Lord Pearce at 782; Lord Reid at 771-772; Lord Evershed at 773-774; and Lord Morris of Borth-y-Gest at 776. 1325 Cartledge v Jopling, has not been followed in New Zealand or Canada. In S v G [1995] 3 NZLR 681, the Court of Appeal followed the Supreme Court of Canada in M(K) v M(H), holding that, where a victim of sexual abuse suffers psychological and emotional harm as a result of that abuse, the cause of action against the defendant accrues only when the victim discovers the link between the abuse and the harm. The applicants have not pursued this avenue however; they have not suggested that the applicants' common law claims only accrued in 1996 when they acquired the relevant knowledge from their solicitors. In Crimmins, as I have earlier noted, the action was conducted on the basis that the deceased's injury was not sustained until shortly before the manifestation of the symptoms appeared: that was not a case of delayed knowledge about an earlier injury and so it was not necessary in Crimmins to apply for an extension of time. 1326 The harshness of the decision in Cartledge v Jopling has since been relieved by amending legislation that gives the courts power to extend time. However, the case remains of importance because it shows the need for findings to be made as to the date of the accrual of a cause of action. Even in those cases where it is found that all causes of action accrued many years ago, "Limitation" legislation can be used to permit extensions of time to persons who have suffered long-standing, but latent, injuries that become known, for the first time, years after the event: Williams v Minister [No 1] at 499 per Kirby P. In Lovett v Le Gall (1975) 10 SASR 479 Bray CJ (with whom Walters & Wells JJ agreed) alluded to the case where "a man who thinks he has only received some trifling injury and later discovers that the accident has produced grave, though hitherto unsuspected, physical injuries": at 482. 1327 If one were to assume that Mrs Cubillo's and Mr Gunner's causes of action all accrued during their respective infancies – and that would be the case in the two actions for false imprisonment – then the effect of s 36 is to extend the limitation period so that it would expire three years after they each obtained their majority. In Mrs Cubillo's case that would mean that she should have instituted her proceedings for false imprisonment before 8 August 1962 – thirty-eight years ago; in Mr Gunner's case, the date would have been in September 1972 – twenty-seven years ago. 1328 Arguably, it might be thought that, unlike pneumoconiosis, a psychiatric or a psychological illness might not necessarily arise at or about the same instance of time as the act that caused the illness. That, however, did not accord with the evidence in these proceedings. Although the identification of the date or dates of the accrual of the causes of action for negligence and breach of statutory duty might have been difficult to define, counsel for Mrs Cubillo conceded in final submissions that the evidence of Dr Gibney established that Mrs Cubillo's causes of action for negligence and breach of statutory duty causing psychological injury first accrued at the time when she was separated from her family. Counsel also conceded that Mrs Cubillo's causes of action for negligence and breach of statutory duty causing psychological injury accrued before she turned twenty-one years of age. The limitation period therefore ended three years after her twenty-first birthday – that is, it ended on 8 August 1962. That period would increase to six years, if the appropriate time limit was that which was set out in the South Australian legislation, but even then Mrs Cubillo's claims are substantially out of time. 1329 There are obvious difficulties in defining the point at which cultural losses became so substantial as to be compensable. In her report, Ms Vaarzon-Morel observed: "In relation to questions of cultural literacy, adult competency is dependent on prolonged exposure to the culture in the different domains of social life. As noted earlier, in order to attain fluency in the language and practice of kinship, for example, a person needs to socialize with adults in different contexts throughout their childhood and adolescence." She also referred to the centrality of language to participation in social, cultural and spiritual life. 1330 Mrs Cubillo was isolated from her family and her community from the age of eight. That isolation continued throughout the remainder of her childhood and during her adolescence. She gave evidence that, on being reunited with her mother and other members of her family in late 1954, she was unable to communicate with them. I accept her evidence on this subject and I find that she had suffered her cultural loss by the time she left the Retta Dixon Home. Based on these concessions, Mrs Cubillo's causes of action for negligence and breach of statutory duty causing cultural loss also accrued before she turned twenty-one. The limitation period ended either six years after her twenty-first birthday – 8 August 1965 – or three years earlier on 8 August 1962. 1331 The submission that counsel made, with respect to Mrs Cubillo's claims in negligence and for breach of statutory duty causing her a loss of entitlements under the Land Rights Act, was that her loss was suffered as from the time when the first grant was made under that Act. In Mrs Cubillo's case, that first occurred following Ministerial approval of the recommendations that had been made in the Land Commissioner's report on the Warlmanpa, Warlpiri, Mudbura and Warumungu Land Claim. That approval was published in 1981. I find, therefore, that the relevant limitation period expired in 1984. 1332 I do not find it surprising that Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner were unaware that they were suffering psychiatric conditions that traced back to their removals and detentions. In Dr Gibney's initial report he described Mrs Cubillo's difficulty in criticising any of her carers, specifically Miss Shankelton and Mr Walter. He said: "She is also plagued by feelings of guilt about revealing what happened to her. 'I feel as if I am betraying people'." He described her as a person of obviously low self esteem, who tended to be non assertive and who appeared to have taken the role of victim in life; thoughts of worthlessness and helplessness have accompanied her depression. Mrs Cubillo described living in despair and feeling defeated. Dr Gibney's second report recorded that Mrs Cubillo was brought up to be subservient and to do things for other people. At several points, he observed feelings of guilt and negative feelings about herself. He described how she tried to put on a brave front and how she had hidden things inside her. Mrs Cubillo herself gave evidence that she has suffered in silence since her removal. Prior to this litigation she had only spoken about her experiences with people who had shared them in some way. 1333 Dr Gibney's assessment of Mrs Cubillo's character and personality did not match the assessment that I made of her as a result of observing her in the witness box. I saw someone who was determined and strong, but I also saw her in entirely different circumstances. I saw her in a foreign environment where she was fighting for what she thought was her rightful entitlement; Dr Gibney would have seen her in a far friendlier atmosphere. It is because I recognise that material difference that I am prepared to accept Dr Gibney's description of Mrs Cubillo. 1334 Mrs Cubillo also relied on the provisions of subpar 44(3)(b)(ii) of the Limitation Act; she claimed that she relied on representations that had been made to her that induced in her a belief that her removal and detention was legitimate and proper conduct by the Commonwealth. Those representations were said to include statements to her by the missionaries of the Retta Dixon Home that her taking was the will of God. This ground was not pursued by Mr Rush QC during his final submissions, although he did not formally abandon it; he limited his submission to saying that it was something that could be taken into account when considering the basic application for an extension of time. I do not accept, in any event, that this ground was open to Mrs Cubillo. I allow for the possibility that a small child might have been told by a missionary that her presence at the Retta Dixon Home was the will of God, but that does not, in any way, connect the maker of the statement to the Director of Native Affairs, let alone to the Commonwealth. I have rejected the submission that the Aborigines Inland Mission and its staff were the agents of the Commonwealth; the rejection of that submission also answers the present allegation. 1335 I turn next to the individual circumstances of Mr Gunner. Counsel conceded that Mr Gunner's cause of action for false imprisonment occurred before he turned twenty-one, so that the limitation period expired on 19 September 1972, three years after his twenty-first birthday. He was well out of time when he instituted his proceedings. 1336 Both Dr Waters and Dr Phillips were of the opinion that Mr Gunner suffered psychological injury from the time of his removal from Utopia and during his detention at St Mary's Hostel. I accept their opinions. 1337 As to cultural loss, Dr Morton described how, prior to his removal, Peter Gunner's sense of self "would have been wholly bound to relations and identifications made with kin and the place he knew as home". He added that following his removal, "given that Peter Gunner was entirely cut off from family support, and forced to avoid speaking his native tongue, I would assume the regime at St Mary's to have been traumatic and highly destructive of his sense of self". He expanded in his evidence on the effect of being isolated from family and community: "Contact, some form of ongoing, even if intermittent, contact is vitally important because people really demand that relationships are continually affirmed and long, long absences are not easily forgiven. As I say people demand that those relationships are concretely affirmed." 1338 Mr Gunner was detained at St Mary's Hostel during his early adolescence, the age at which he would have been initiated had he been at Utopia. This has had a significant, ongoing impact on his cultural status. I find that a substantial amount of the damage that was done to Mr Gunner's cultural identity and his ability to participate in the cultural and spiritual life of his community at Utopia was suffered during his detention at St Mary's Hostel. 1339 Mr Gunner's counsel acknowledged that Mr Gunner suffered psychological injury and cultural loss well before his twenty-first birthday. His causes of action for negligence and breach of statutory duty for those categories of damage therefore accrued before he turned twenty-one years; the relevant limitation period ended either three years later, on 19 September 1972, or six years later in 1975. His causes of action for negligence and breach of statutory duty for loss of entitlements under the Land Rights Act first accrued following Ministerial acceptance of the Land Commissioner's recommendations in the 1979 report, entitled Land Claim by Alyawarra and Kaititja. The relevant limitation period therefore expired in 1982 because by that stage the Limitation Act had substituted the three year limitation period for the six year period prescribed by the Limitation of Suits and Actions Act 1866. 1340 Mr Gunner's solicitor, Mr Storey, deposed to the fact that he travelled to Utopia with Dr Petchkovsky in November 1996. Dr Petchkovsky interviewed Mr Gunner and later informed Mr Storey that he believed that Mr Gunner was suffering psychiatric injury consequential upon his removal from his family and his culture. Mr Storey, whose evidence was not challenged, said that he, in turn, advised Mr Gunner of Dr Petchkovsky's opinion. Mr Rush QC submitted, and I accept, that the communication to Mr Gunner in November 1996 of Dr Petchkovsky's diagnosis of psychiatric injuries caused by his removal and detention, was the ascertainment of a material fact for the first time after the expiration of the limitation period. 1341 Counsel for the applicants submitted that the Commonwealth and its Director of Native Affairs (and later Welfare) failed to ensure that Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner had access to independent advice and representation before the expiration of the limitation period. The submission concluded that had these duties been discharged the applicants would have learned of their legal rights before they became statute barred; it was said that the failure to discharge these duties resulted in their not commencing proceedings within the limitation periods. The Commonwealth did not accept this submission but answered it (in the case of Mrs Cubillo) by saying that the lack of independent legal advice whilst she was at the Retta Dixon Home was "neither here nor there" for she had either three or six years after she attained twenty-one years of age to obtain independent legal advice and did not do so. I assume that the Commonwealth meant by its submission that if there were any responsibility to advise Mrs Cubillo of her legal rights, that responsibility would only have existed whilst the relationship of guardian and ward subsisted between the Director of Native Affairs and Mrs Cubillo. I think that would have been the correct conclusion and that it also applies to Mr Gunner. I am not satisfied that either the Director or the Commonwealth had any such responsibility but if I am wrong and one or other or both of them had that responsibility, it would have ceased when the applicants attained twenty-one years of age. 1342 There remains one matter with respect to Mr Gunner's further amended statement of claim that has caused me concern. His initial statement of claim that was filed on 31 October 1996, subpars 64(a), (b), (c) and (d) contained the following pleas: "64. By reason of the matters referred to in paragraphs 1 and 39 to 63 inclusive, the Applicant has suffered injury loss and damage. Particulars of Injury (a) post-traumatic stress syndrome; (b) anxiety; (c) mental / emotional distress; (d) psychological trauma and injury; (e) …; (f) …" 1343 The language of those subpars did not change at any time even though numerous amendments were made on several occasions to the statement of claim in the lead up to the trial. Mr Gunner's case was presented on the basis that his knowledge about his psychiatric condition was not acquired until November 1996 – that is, in the month following the institution of his proceedings. How then did the drafter of Mr Gunner's statement of claim acquire the knowledge that was set out in subpars 64 (a), (b), (c) and (d)? I can only see three possibilities: either the information in the subpars accorded with Mr Gunner's instructions – in which case, it contradicts his evidence that he did not acquire the knowledge until November; or, the solicitors responsible for the issue of the statement of claim had earlier acquired the knowledge but had not informed Mr Gunner of their acquisition of that knowledge; or the statement of claim was filed without instructions about Mr Gunner's psychiatric condition and, worse, without knowledge of his psychiatric condition. This issue was debated at some length with Mr Rush QC during the course of his closing submissions. I do not consider that he was able to explain to my satisfaction how the statement of claim was filed in October 1996 when Mr Gunner did not know of his psychiatric condition until sometime in the following month. If it should be that solicitors acted without instructions or without knowledge – and I make no findings to that effect – they ran the risk of endangering their client's cause, not to mention the possibility of more serious consequences. 1344 Whether the decision in Ward v Walton should be followed was raised during the course of argument. Counsel for the Commonwealth argued that this Court is not bound to, and should not, follow the decision of the majority in that case. His claim was simply stated; it was based on the language of subpar 44(3)(b)(i) of the Limitation Act: "… facts material to the plaintiff's case were not ascertained by him until some time within 12 months before the expiration of the limitation period [that does not apply here] or occurring after the expiration of that period [and it is said that this is the case] and that the action was instituted within 12 months after the ascertainment of those facts by the plaintiff." (emphasis added) The argument for the Commonwealth was that the presence of the word "after" shows, in a temporal sense, that the ascertainment of the material facts must precede the institution of the proceedings. 1345 In the interlocutory judgment I elected to follow the decision of the majority in Ward v Walton. I considered that the provisions of subpar 44(3)(b)(i) called for a beneficial interpretation; what Asche CJ (with whom Gallop J agreed) had said, in effect was that the requirement that an action be instituted within twelve months after the ascertainment of material facts by an applicant would be properly met by showing that the action was instituted at a time no later than twelve months after the ascertainment of those facts. If, therefore, facts were ascertained after the institution of proceedings, the action must, of necessity have been instituted within twelve months – or, as Gallop J preferred to say at 26, if the proceedings were instituted "before the end of" twelve months after the ascertainment of the relevant facts, there would be a compliance with the provision. I have not been persuaded that this interpretation of the provision is incorrect. In fact, an opposite conclusion would amount to an injustice as the following hypothetical example establishes: imagine that a material fact is ascertained on day two; if proceedings are instituted on day three, then, assuming all other requirements have been met, the applicant can apply to the court to exercise its discretionary powers. If, however, the proceedings were instituted on day one, then according to the Commonwealth's argument, the applicant could not apply to the court for the relevant extension of time. He or she would have to incur the unnecessary costs of instituting proceedings afresh on day three or thereafter. In my opinion, such an interpretation would not do justice to the provision. 1346 The critical issue is the determination of the last date when the applicant ascertained the facts that were material to his or her case. Time then begins to run. The proceedings must be commenced "within twelve months after the ascertainment of those facts". That is, to adapt the language of Asche CJ at 23, the outer time limit. But if, prior to the ascertainment of the facts, the applicant had already commenced proceedings, there would be no need, in my opinion, to institute proceedings afresh; it would be sufficient, subject always to the details of pleadings and particularity, to stay with the same proceedings. 1347 As matters stand, I have accepted Mr Gunner's evidence that he acquired the knowledge of the material fact in November and that finding allows him to pass the threshold test so that he can ask the Court to exercise its discretion in his favour. 1348 The provisions of subs 44(3) of the Limitation Act are almost the same as the provisions of the Limitation of Actions Act 1936 (SA). Section 48 of the South Australian Act was added by the Statutes Amendment (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1972 (SA). After granting the Court a general power to extend the time for bringing an action, subs 48(2) then provided: "(2) An extension of time shall not be granted by a court under subsection (1) of this section unless it is satisfied that facts material to the plaintiff's case were not ascertained by him until – (a) after, or within twelve months before, the expiration of the period of limitation; (b) within twelve months before the commencement of the action, and that in all the circumstances of the case it is fair and equitable to grant the extension of time." 1349 Later, in 1975 s 48 of the South Australian Act was repealed and re-enacted; subs 48(2) became par 48(3)(b)(i) and par 48(3)(b)(ii) was inserted to give a plaintiff the opportunity to seek an extension of time where he or she had acted detrimentally as a result of representations that had been made by or on behalf of the defendant (c.f. subpar 44(3)(b)(ii) of the Northern Territory Limitation Act). 1350 In Sola Optical Australia Pty Ltd v Mills (1987) 163 CLR 628 ("Sola Optical"), a decision based on the South Australian Act, the High Court held that a fact does not need to have a bearing on a party's decision to commence proceedings in order to be "material"; it decided that a fact is material to a party's case "if it is both relevant to the issues to be proved if the plaintiff is to succeed in obtaining an award of damages sufficient to justify bringing the action and is of sufficient importance to be likely to have a bearing on the case": at 636. It is not, therefore, necessary to show that the facts completed the cause of action. Thus in Sola Optical, the discovery of a medical report as to the extent of a disability was sufficient as it would affect the extent of damages. Applying the remarks in Sola Optical to the facts in these proceedings I am of the opinion that when each applicant was advised that she and he was suffering a psychiatric condition that was attributable to her and his removal and detention, that applicant was apprised of a "fact" that was "material" to the case that the applicant wished to pursue. The "fact" was relevant and it was of sufficient importance that it was likely that it would have a bearing on the case. The question whether a "fact" is material involves an objective inquiry and the ascertainment of the "fact" must be by the applicant personally, it is not sufficient for the "fact" to be ascertained only by his or her solicitor. I do not accept the Commonwealth's submission that, when the applicants were informed that they each suffered a psychiatric condition, they were merely informed of "evidence" – not of a "material fact". 1351 As Cox J observed in Wright v Donatelli (1995) 65 SASR 307, the test for an ascertained material fact under s 48 of the South Australian Limitation of Actions Act 1936 (SA) is "extremely modest": at 310. 1352 One example of a "material fact" was the expectation of a political solution to the problems facing the plaintiff: see South Australia v Johnson (1982) 42 ALR 161. In that case, the plaintiff sued the State, claiming damages for breach of contract and negligence; he alleged that he had taken up a perpetual lease of a property on Kangaroo Island relying on statements made by officers of the State that the property was "suitable for fat lambs and wool production". He issued his writ on 14 July 1977. The plaintiff claimed that he had been unable to achieve a successful lambing operation and that, as a result, he had suffered severe losses. The trial judge found in the plaintiff's favour on the negligence claim and therefore did not consider the claim in contract; he rejected a defence based on the Limitation of Actions Act 1936-1975 (SA), even though he found that the damage suffered by the plaintiff occurred in the lambing season in the middle of 1967. Based on that finding, the action would have been statute barred in the middle of 1973. His Honour found that, by 1977, the expectation of a political solution to the problems facing the plaintiff and other farmers in Kangaroo Island, justified the plaintiff withholding legal action. As a result, the trial judge extended the time so as to allow the suit to be maintained. This meant that a period of ten years or so had elapsed between the accrual of the cause of action and the institution of proceedings. On appeal to the Full Court of the Supreme Court of South Australia, the State was unsuccessful. Save for some comparatively minor adjustments, the appeal was dismissed. In the High Court, on the issue of whether the cause of action was statute barred, the members of the Court were unanimous. They concluded that the cause of action was complete by the middle of 1966, a date that was twelve months earlier than that determined by the trial judge. But subject to that qualification, they noted that the cause of action was still within six years of the enactment of the 1972 amendment that conferred on South Australian courts a discretion to extend time in which to institute a suit. As to whether the trial judge's discretion had miscarried, the members of the High Court said at 169: "The year 1972 was the year of greatest achievement for the Gosse Committee. It was in that year that the Commonwealth Minister for Primary Industry (Mr Sinclair) introduced legislation in the Commonwealth Parliament with a view to the alleviation of the Kangaroo Island problem. This step was the culmination of a period of intense political activity which aroused sufficient support for the settlers' cause among Ministers and officers of the State to encourage Mr Johnson to anticipate a political solution. On balance, we think there is sufficient to sustain the exercise of the discretion." 1353 In Ulowski v Miller [1968] SASR 277 Bray CJ (with whom Mitchell & Walters JJ concurred) at pp 280-283 listed various matters of importance in considering an application for an extension of time. They included: · the extent of the delay, although that "will rarely be decisive or even significant" and whether the delay was that of the applicant or the solicitors for the applicant; · the explanation for the delay; · the hardship to the applicant if the action is dismissed; · the hardship to the respondent if the action is allowed to proceed; and · the respondent's conduct. In Lovett v Le Gall Bray CJ added two more factors: the applicant's conduct and the nature, importance and circumstances surrounding the ascertainment of the new material facts. To those significant factors, which are not to be regarded as inflexible limitations, there can also be added the observation made by Kearney J in the Supreme Court of the Northern Territory in Forbes v Davies (1994) Aust Torts Reports 61,392 that a Court should also consider the extent to which, having regard to the delay, the evidence is likely to be less cogent than if the action had been brought within the time allowed: at 61,401. 1354 Williams v Minister [No 1] was a case in which the facts had some similarity to the facts in these two cases; the New South Wales Court of Appeal, by a majority, thought that it was an appropriate case within which to grant an extension of time. Ms Williams filed a notice of motion in 1993 seeking an order under s 60G(2) Limitation Act 1969 (NSW) to extend the period within which she could bring proceedings. Ms Williams needed the leave of the court to commence proceedings because, although the time for bringing her claim was postponed while she was a minor, her cause of action became statute barred six years after her twenty-first birthday – the age of majority at the time. Under the NSW legislation at the time the limitation period for a cause of action founded on tort was six years from the accrual of the action. 1355 Ms Williams claimed that it was not until 1991 that she came to realise that her borderline personality disorder was the result of her childhood experiences. Upon seeing an examining psychiatrist in August 1991, Ms Williams received a report from the doctor describing her injuries. That was the first time that she had appreciated, with appropriate clarity, the nature and extent of the damage that had been done to her. She had previously formed a suspicion but the doctor's report was the first confirmation. There were further delays as legal aid was refused in December 1991 and an appeal was rejected in March 1992; it was not until September 1992 that her solicitors decided to fund the matter themselves. The notice of motion for an extension of time, with a statement of claim annexed to it, was not filed until January 1993. 1356 The judge at first instance refused to extend the limitation period on the basis that Ms Williams did not have a viable cause of action and that the delay between the conduct complained of and the commencement of the proceedings made "it impossible for justice to be done". Whether it was just and reasonable to extend time required a consideration of the latent injury test in subs 60I(1) of the NSW Act; it required the plaintiff to prove that at the expiration of the limitation period, she: "(i) did not know that personal injury had been suffered; or (ii) was unaware of the nature or extent of personal injury suffered; or (iii) was unaware of the connection between the personal injury and the defendant's act or omission". It also required proceedings to be commenced within three years of the time when she became aware, or ought to have become aware, of these matters. Those preconditions do not appear in the Northern Territory legislation but, in my opinion, they are matters that should properly be taken into account when considering the applications for extensions of time that have been made by Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner. Decisions on the New South Wales Limitation Act have held that in determining whether an applicant had the required awareness, the Court is concerned with the subjective appreciation of the particular applicant and not with the awareness attributable to a reasonable person in the position of the applicant: see Harris v Commercial Minerals Ltd (1996) 186 CLR 1 at 9-10. 1357 In CRA Limited v Martignago (1996) 39 NSWLR 13 Clarke JA (with whom Priestley and Powell JJA agreed) said at 20: "The subsection is concerned to inquire whether, in a real sense, the applicant knows the nature of his or her injury and its broad extent. … the legislation … is designed to afford relief to an applicant who is either unaware that he or she has suffered an injury or is aware that he or she has suffered an injury, possibly with continuing consequences, but is unaware of its complications, implications or potentially serious consequences." These remarks are, in my opinion, of substantial assistance to Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner. The probabilities are that neither of them understood that she and he were suffering a psychotic illness but, if they were aware of some malady – such as depression or mood swings – it is highly unlikely that they would have related that back to their removal from their families and their detention in the institutions. 1358 In Williams v Minister [No 1], his Honour held, at first instance that the normal limitation period would have expired six years after her twenty first birthday – that was September 1969. He found that she was not aware of the nature, cause or extent of her injury until she received the doctor's report in 1991 and she applied for an extension within three years of that date. However, his Honour held that it was not just and reasonable to extend time because there was insufficient evidence to establish the cause of action and because of the prejudice to the defendant that had been caused by the delay. 1359 That decision was reversed on appeal by a majority of Court of Appeal. Kirby P (with whom Priestley JA agreed) found that the judge at first instance made an error of law when he found Ms Williams' claim for breach of fiduciary duty fell within the time limit imposed by the Act and that the fiduciary claim could not proceed because of the defence of laches, whether or not the time limit for the negligence and false imprisonment claims was extended. He held that the error vitiated the judge's discretionary decision and that it was convenient for the Court to exercise the discretion afresh: 510-511. Kirby P recognised that the delay could cause "considerable disadvantage" to the defendant but new evidence showed that there were people and materials available to assist them to meet the claim and there was sufficient evidence to suggest that the plaintiff had a "viable" cause of action so that an extension would not be a futility. In assessing the prejudice, Kirby P noted that, in any application to lift the time bar, there will be some prejudice to the defendant because of the passage of time, but this must be weighed against the prejudice to the plaintiff of refusing the extension sought: at 514. 1360 In respect of the claims for a breach of fiduciary duty, the majority held that the NSW Act did not apply to a cause of action for equitable relief except by analogy: at 509. Kirby P held that the just and reasonable question could only be applied to the claim for a breach of fiduciary duty by analogy and any such analogy would be affected by the operation of equitable principles which would depend on the facts of the case and would require, at the least, more complete evidence: at 509. In addition, for Kirby P, the fact that the fiduciary claim would, in any event, be heard was a relevant factor in deciding whether it was just and reasonable to allow claims for negligence and wrongful imprisonment to proceed: at 510-511. Because of the fiduciary claim, it would be just and reasonable to permit the other heads of claim to proceed to trial at the same time. Kirby P said "it is not just and reasonable in this case to close the doors of the court in Ms Williams' face. She should have her chance to prove her case. She might succeed. She might fail. But her cause will have been heard in full. It will then have been determined as our system of law provides to all Australians": at 515. 1361 The Commonwealth challenged both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner about their first knowledge of their ability to institute these proceedings. There is information before the Court which, said the Commonwealth, would establish that they each would have had much earlier knowledge. It was claimed for example, that Mrs Cubillo participated in the research for a book on the subject of "the Stolen Generation" and that she attended at the Going Home Conference that dealt with the plight of children who had been removed from their families. 1362 Of Mr Gunner, it was said that his work with the Aboriginal Legal Service would have given him considerable knowledge of the legal system. I do not accept the Commonwealth's submission that his term of employment with the Central Australian Aboriginal Legal Aid Service would have, in some unspecified way, given him some understanding of the law concerning statutory time limits. There was no evidence upon which a finding could be made that his duties would have introduced him to that branch of the law. 1363 Mrs Cubillo acknowledged that she had attended the Going Home Conference in October 1994. Asked by her counsel to explain why she attended it, she responded: "It was a rally that most people from communities like Retta Dixon, Croker Island, Melville Island and those places attended. What did you understand the purpose of the Coming (sic) Home Conference was? --- I was felt it was getting together and meeting people that you hadn't seen for years. Were there talks given at the Coming Home Conference? --- Yes, there was – there was talks, a lot of people at those times but I didn't understand any of that. Did you go to a talk given by a Mr Merkel, QC? --- Yes, I did. Do you remember what he said? --- I know he just talked about people in institutions but I didn't understand any of the legal jargon." I do not accept this passage of false modesty from Mrs Cubillo's evidence. I am satisfied that she would have well understood the purpose of the Conference. She is an intelligent, determined woman who has had, since her days at the Retta Dixon Home, a continuous exposure to western culture and the western way of life. By dint of her determination and hard work, she raised herself from domestic duties to a clerical position in the Public Service. In order to pursue her objectives she learnt typing and attended studies in some unspecified university course. 1364 Mrs Cubillo was questioned about her association with a Mr David Dalrymple, a solicitor employed by the Katherine Regional Aboriginal Legal Aid Service Inc. She was asked in cross-examination: "When do you say you first consulted or saw Mr David Dalrymple about a possible claim against the Commonwealth?" Mrs Cubillo replied: "I did not see him about a possible claim against the Commonwealth. He sent somebody over to my place." Mrs Cubillo was very defensive in giving her answers about Mr Dalrymple. She was reluctant to acknowledge that she received any personal advice from him or any of his associates. Eventually however, she conceded, first, that Mr Dalrymple had sent some people to talk to her "about a possible case against the Commonwealth" and then that he had been at a meeting at which she was present. Some idea of her defensiveness can be appreciated from the following passage in her cross-examination: "I put it to you that Mr Dalrymple did in fact come to see you and there were other people there, but Mr Dalrymple was in fact there at that meeting. What do you say to that? --- We discussed things in a group, not as an individual. Yes, but what I'm trying to get to is whether Mr Dalrymple was in fact present at that meeting? --- He was. So there's Mr Dalrymple and other people present and they include Josephine Martin and Barbara Cummings? --- That'll be right. And I put it to you that this meeting with Mr Dalrymple occurred before the Going Home Conference? --- If it says on record it may have been. Right? --- But I reluctantly saw this person. I only agreed to go and see him in the presence of Josephine who was a terminally ill cancer victim." Mrs Cubillo's attitude to this line of questioning deteriorated when she was asked a series of questions in cross-examination about a document dated 5 October 1994, entitled "Memorandum of Instructions": exhibit A23. During her evidence in chief she was asked whether she had signed "anything in relation to Mr Dalrymple or lawyers acting" for her. She answered: "I don't believe I have. I'm not sure." Next her counsel asked her whether she had ever received any advice from Mr Dalrymple about her entitlements or about her taking legal action. She said: "He never mentioned any of those things to me." Shortly afterwards, Mrs Cubillo's counsel put to her the "Memorandum of Instructions". She acknowledged that she had signed the document and she thought that she had signed it at the Going Home Conference. The document was tendered without objection, but no further questions were asked of her about it in her evidence in chief. In fact, the document read [in part]: "I Lorna Nelson Cubillo, hereby instruct David Dalrymple of Katherine Regional Aboriginal Aid Service to commence legal proceedings on my behalf against the Commonwealth in relation to the circumstances of my being placed in institutional/foster care." 1365 In cross-examination, exhibit A23 was again put before Mrs Cubillo and she was asked a series of questions about it. Her demeanour, at this stage of her evidence, was not impressive. Ms Hollingworth for the Commonwealth, read the passage from the document that I have quoted and then asked: "Do you see that? --- This document had been circulated and everybody as far as I know from the stolen generation had signed these documents. Well, I'm not interested in what everybody else had done, I'm just interested in what you've done, Mrs Cubillo? --- Okay, I did exactly what everybody else did. Well, you read this before you signed it? --- I'll go back one step, this is your handwriting on the document, isn't it? --- That's so. You filled in your name and the details of your date and place of birth and so on? --- That's right. So you completed the document and you signed it? --- But I didn't have an understanding of any legal jargon. I'm not asking you about that, Mrs Cubillo. You understood, it's quite clear in the first sentence, that you were instructing Mr David Dalrymple to commence legal proceedings on your behalf against the Commonwealth? --- And I – when you say on my behalf, I understood it was on behalf of people in whole. Including yourself? --- That's right." 1366 Exhibit R33 comprised two pages from a document that was produced to the Court by Mr Dalrymple under subpoena. He described it as "Copy of Extract from Report to Stolen Generation's Litigation Unit, delivered on 28 August 1996". The following entry appears in that report: "Other individuals identified in June 1994 Brief to Ron Merkel - Netta Cahill (2 others); - Lorna Cubillo (16?)" The document was shown to Mrs Cubillo during her cross-examination and she agreed that her name appeared in it. It was then put to her: "I put to you that in fact you had met with people from Mr Dalrymple's office prior to June 1994, do you agree?" Mrs Cubillo would have understood this question. She had earlier agreed that she had listened to a talk given by Mr Merkel QC at the Going Home Conference in October 1994. Again her answer was very evasive: "Then again I would say I was in the … presence of a lot of the people. He did not speak to me as an individual alone." 1367 The following extract from exhibit R33, which was authored by Mr Dalrymple, and which appeared under a heading: "Significance (in terms of commencement of one year period pursuant to 44(3)(b)(i) of the NT Limitations Act) of legal advice regarding potential common law actions against the Commonwealth provided at the October 1994 'Going Home Conference'" was read to Mrs Cubillo by her counsel during her re-examination: "Ron Merkel, in his speech at the Going Home Conference advised participants at the Conference that if they had suffered ill-treatment/abuse etc. in a particular institution, they might have a case against the Commonwealth. The participants were urged to complete and sign the instructions forms that were handed out, with a view (as it turned out, an optimistic one) that it would be possible for individual participants to obtain legal advice about their respective potential cases on an individual basis. Not only did that not happen, I am not aware of any occasion when any of the individuals considered in this report were advised by me or any other lawyer that he or she definitely had an arguable case against the Commonwealth in respect of his/her removal on the basis of a non-constitutional cause of action. I also don't believe any of the individuals considered in this report were definitely advised that he or she had an arguable case against the Commonwealth in respect of his/her institutionalisation subsequent to removal." Mrs Cubillo's counsel then asked her whether that conformed with her "recollection of [her] association with Mr Dalrymple". She said that it did. 1368 Exhibit R34 was a partly expurgated copy of a letter dated 31 March 1995 that Mr Dalrymple wrote to Mrs Cubillo. The passage in the letter that was left open read as follows: "The reason for our decision to keep your story for the Federal Court claim is that a lot of the important parts of your story relate to what happened to you during the period that you were institutionalised in Retta Dixon Home. The mistreatment that you suffered there probably gives you what is called a 'breach of fiduciary duty' claim." 1369 Under cross-examination, Mrs Cubillo was reminded that she had told her counsel that Mr Dalrymple had never told her anything about her entitlements or whether she could commence legal action. She was asked if she stood by that answer and she said that she did. Exhibit R34 was then placed before her and she was asked whether she recalled receiving the letter. Mrs Cubillo had the intelligence to answer that question: but instead she gave a rambling non-sensical reply which sounded as unimpressive as it read: "I would say some of these documents have been removed from Barbara's book and some of this information I would say that he would've got from there." 1370 It need hardly be said that this was a wholly unresponsive answer. Mrs Cubillo was reluctant to admit what was obvious – she was in 1994 and 1995 (as she was when giving her evidence) a willing participant in the decision to institute proceedings on behalf of "the Stolen Generation" against the Commonwealth. 1371 I am quite satisfied that Mrs Cubillo was one of several part Aboriginal persons who had some contact with Mr David Dalrymple of the Katherine Regional Aboriginal Legal Aid Service in 1994. It is not possible to specify the date upon which contact was first made but it was some time about June; and it can be inferred from the entry in exhibit R33 that it was in June 1994 that Mr Dalrymple delivered a brief for Mr Merkel QC to advise on the rights of members of "the Stolen Generation" to seek compensation from the Commonwealth. I reject any suggestion that Mrs Cubillo was ignorant of what was happening. She may have been reluctant to become involved in the matter, but that did not mean that she did not understand that the lawyers were working towards the start of legal proceedings to sue somebody (perhaps, but not necessarily limited to, the Commonwealth) over what had happened to her and others as children. 1372 Mrs Cubillo did not acknowledge in her evidence a date or an occasion when she decided to sue the Commonwealth – neither did Mr Gunner. Neither of them explained the factors that influenced them to institute proceedings. Each of them failed to give, as part of their evidence, their reasons for failing to sue earlier. In Mr Gunner's case, these omissions, however, do not loom large in my consideration of his application for an extension of time. As I have already said, these are unusual cases. If a person is physically injured in an accident, he or she need hardly be told that a cause of action may be available; most people would know that it would be advisable to seek legal advice. When people are removed, as children, from their tribal communities and institutionalised by "the authorities" it is by no means so apparent that they have – or may have – some cause of action arising from that removal and detention. In terms of assessing Mr Gunner's delays in his institution of these proceedings, I will proceed upon the premise that he did not know of his entitlements until his legal advisers explained his rights to him in late 1996. Mrs Cubillo's position is quite different. She had close contact with Mr Dalrymple and she was investigating her rights to sue the Commonwealth as from 5 October 1994, when she signed her "memorandum of instructions". She is protected, however, because of my finding in her favour that she did not know of her psychiatric injury until October 1996. 1373 The evidence concerning Mrs Cubillo's contact with Mr Dalrymple established that she was investigating the possibility of instituting proceedings against the Commonwealth as early as June 1994. I am, however, satisfied that she did not become aware that she was suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome and psychiatric injury consequent upon her removal and detention until she was informed of the fact in Darwin after a medical consultation in about October 1996. Mr Schaefer deposed in his affidavit to the fact that Mrs Cubillo was medically examined for the purposes of these proceedings by Dr Petchkovsky on 28 October 1996. The report diagnosed Mrs Cubillo as suffering from a number of psychiatric conditions that were causally related to her history of removal from her Aboriginal family. After receiving the report, Mr Storey advised Mrs Cubillo of Dr Petchkovsky's diagnosis. That information was, in my opinion a fact that was "material" and sufficient to ground an application under subpar 44(3)(b)(i) of the Limitation Act. The evidence does not justify a finding that Mr Dalrymple said anything to her about a psychiatric condition. I accept Mrs Cubillo's evidence that she did not acquire knowledge of a material fact until October 1996; she passed the threshold test. 1374 Counsel for the Commonwealth pointed out that Mrs Cubillo's writ and statement of claim were filed on 30 October 1996 and that Dr Petchovsky's report about her psychiatric condition was dated two days earlier – 28 October. That was a very small gap in time within which a solicitor might assess the contents of the report, obtain instructions after conferring with the client, draft the pleadings and have them settled and filed in Court. Another strange feature is that Dr Petchkovsky did not refer to Mrs Cubillo suffering a post-traumatic stress disorder yet the pleadings included that as one of the illnesses that she allegedly suffered. If the writ and statement of claim were issued on Mrs Cubillo's instructions, it would presumably mean that she knew in October 1996 that she was suffering from that illness, but what was her source of knowledge? It was not Dr Petchkovsky. All these uncertainties led to counsel for the Commonwealth submitting that her evidence about when she first learnt of her illnesses should be rejected as having been contrived for the purpose of satisfying the jurisdictional fact that was needed to enliven the Court's discretionary powers. I have not overlooked these strange circumstances in finding in Mrs Cubillo's favour that she has passed the threshold test. 1375 Once one of the preconditions in s 44(3)(b) has been established, and I am satisfied that both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner have met that test, the Court may grant an extension of time if it is satisfied that "in all the circumstances of the case, it is just to grant the extension of time". The starting point, when considering the exercise of the discretion is to recall that it is a broad discretion that must be exercised by having regard to all the circumstances of the case; it is not to be fettered by anything other than a requirement to have regard to those circumstances. 1376 The Commonwealth relied upon the decision of the High Court in Brisbane South Regional Health Authority v Taylor (1996) 186 CLR 541 to refute the applicants' claims that the discretion should be exercised in their favour. The plaintiff, Ms Taylor, sued the Health Authority, alleging that it was vicariously liable for the conduct of a doctor in 1979; she claimed that the doctor had failed to explain the choices that were available to her when she was faced with a decision whether to undergo a hysterectomy. She alleged that the doctor told her that the operation was necessary to relieve severe pain and bleeding. She accepted this advice and the operation was performed. However, she continued to experience pain during the ensuing fifteen years. In 1994, she obtained the hospital records concerning her treatment; they referred to a pelvic inflammatory disease which was said to be a non-operative disease not treatable by hysterectomy. She instituted proceedings in the District Court, applying for an extension of time under subs 31(2) of the Limitation of Actions Act 1974 (Qd) in which to bring an action. That subsection provides as follows: "Where on application to a court by a person claiming to have a right of action to which this section applies, it appears to the court – (a) that a material fact of a decisive character relating to the right of action was not within the means of knowledge of the applicant until a date after the commencement of the year last preceding the expiration of the period of limitation for the action; and (b) that there is evidence to establish the right of action apart from a defence founded on the expiration of a period of limitation; the court may order that the period of limitation for the action be extended so that it expires at the end of 1 year after that date and thereupon, for the purposes of the action brought by the applicant in that court, the period of limitation is extended accordingly." 1377 There was evidence that, at the time of the institution of the proceedings, the doctor who had performed the hysterectomy then resided overseas and that attempts to contact him had been unsuccessful. The learned trial judge held that the Health Authority would be placed in a position of serious prejudice having regard to the lapse of time – particularly since it was possible that the doctor may not be located and, in any event, it seemed unlikely he would have any recollection of the conversations that were alleged by Ms Taylor to have occurred. His Honour therefore declined to grant an extension of time. The plaintiff appealed successfully to the Court of Appeal of the Supreme Court of Queensland; that Court concluded that once an applicant had satisfied the conditions in subs 31(2) there was an evidentiary onus on the Health Authority to demonstrate prejudice, which in that case it had not discharged. By a majority of four to one, the High Court allowed the Health Authority's appeal. 1378 McHugh J said that the "effect of delay on the quality of justice is no doubt one of the most important influences motivating a legislature to enact limitation periods for commencing actions": at 552. He explained that courts and commentators have perceived four additional broad rationales for the enactment of limitation periods. They can be summarised as follows: · as time goes by, relevant evidence is likely to be lost; · it is oppressive, even "cruel", to a defendant to allow an action to be brought long after the circumstances that gave rise to it have passed; · people should be able to arrange their affairs and utilise their resources on the basis that claims can no longer be made against them; and · the public interest requires that disputes be settled as quickly as possible. 1379 When an applicant seeks an extension of time to commence an action after a limitation period has expired, he or she has "the positive burden of demonstrating that the justice of the case requires that extension": at 554 per McHugh; see also Dawson J at 544 where he agreed with McHugh J, adding that to "discharge that onus the applicant must establish that the commencement of an action beyond the limitation period would not result in significant prejudice to the prospective defendant". Dawson J also agreed with McHugh J that "once the legislature has selected a limitation period, to allow the commencement of an action outside that period is prima facie prejudicial to the defendant who would otherwise have the benefit of the limitation": at 544. 1380 Toohey and Gummow JJ in their joint judgment expressed themselves in these terms at 547-548: "The discretion conferred by the subsection is to order an extension of the limitation period. It is a discretion to grant, not a discretion to refuse, and on well established principles an applicant must satisfy the court that grounds exist for exercising the discretion in his or her favour. There is an evidentiary onus on the prospective defendant to raise any consideration telling against the exercise of the discretion. But the ultimate onus of satisfying the court that time should be extended remains on the applicant. Where prejudice is alleged by reason of the effluxion of time, the position is stated by Gowans J in Cowie v State Electricity Commission (Vict) [1964] VR 788 at 793 in a passage which was endorsed by Gibbs J in Campbell v United Pacific Transport Pty Ltd [1966] Qd R 465 at 474: 'It is for the respondent to place in evidence sufficient facts to lead the Court to the view that prejudice would be occasioned and it is then for the applicant to show that these facts do not amount to material prejudice.' In the District Court [the trial judge] outlined the facts as they emerged from the material before him. He then referred to the judgment of Tadgell J in Kosky v Trustees of Sisters of Charity (1982) VR 961 which concerned an application for extension of time under the Limitation of Actions Act 1958 (Vict). Tadgell J referred to the discretion under the Victorian Act and continued [ in Kosky at 969]: 'There are no doubt some cases in which a lapse of fourteen years from the time of allegedly negligent conduct until the commencement of an action in respect of it would of itself render a fair trial of the issues impossible or so unlikely that a trial ought not to be countenanced. In such a case it would presumably be right to refuse to make an order ... even if the applicant were otherwise entitled to ask for one.' [The trial judge] referred to the difficulties confronting the respondent: the uncertainty of locating Dr Chang and the unlikelihood of him having any recollection of the conversation. His Honour recognised that the respondent bore the onus of proof in any action against the appellant and that the contemporary medical records would appear to make the discharge of that onus a difficult task for her. 'Nevertheless', he concluded, 'I think that the [Health Authority] is placed in a position of serious prejudice having regard to the lapse of time which has occurred'. It was open to his Honour to take a different view on the facts but there can be no quarrel with the general approach he took." 1381 Mr Meagher QC, for the Commonwealth, emphasised the concept of a fair trial and the acceptance of that concept by Toohey and Gummow JJ at 548 and again at 550; at that earlier reference their Honours had said: "A material consideration (the most important consideration in many cases) is whether, by reason of the time that has elapsed, a fair trial is possible. Whether prejudice to the prospective defendant is likely to thwart a fair trial is to be answered by reference to the situation at the time of the application. It is no sufficient answer to a claim of prejudice to say that, in any event, the defendant might have suffered some prejudice if the applicant had not begun proceedings until just before the limitation period had expired." 1382 In Sydney City Council v Zegarac [1998] 43 NSWLR 195 at 197-200, Mason P questioned whether this reasoning applied to the Limitation Act 1969 (NSW) having regard to the presence of an express provision s 60E(1)(b), that required the Court (when considering an application for an extension of time) to have regard to: "(a) … (b) the extent to which, having regard to the delay, there is or may be prejudice to the defendant by reason that evidence that would have been available if the proceedings had been commenced within the limitation period is no longer available." 1383 As Mr Meagher QC pointed out, there is no equivalent provision in the Northern Territory Limitation Act and, hence, I do not consider that I need share the concern of the learned President. I do, nevertheless, agree with his earlier remarks that "mere proof of actual prejudice [to a respondent] will not dictate the rejection of an application to extend time": at 199. The Commonwealth argued that the test was not one of weighing up the prejudice to the applicants and comparing it against the prejudice of the respondent. Rather, so it claimed, where actual, as well as presumptive prejudice to a respondent is shown, as in these proceedings, the result must be regarded as inevitable: the application must be dismissed. I do not agree. Prejudice of such a nature is a most important consideration but, despite its importance, it is but one of several factors that are to be assessed. 1384 McHugh J in Brisbane South Regional Health Authority v Taylor also emphasised the importance of ensuring that a fair trial will be available to a prospective defendant. His Honour listed the various factors that are to be considered by a trial judge when considering an application for an extension of time and the consequences that will or might flow from the grant of such an extension. He said at 555: "If the action had been brought within time, it would have been irrelevant that, by reason of the delay in commencing the action, Dr Chang might have had little independent recollection of his conversation with the applicant and that the defendant might have had difficulty in fairly defending itself. But once the potential liability of the defendant had ended, its capacity to obtain a fair trial, if an extension of time were granted, was relevant and important. To subject a defendant once again to a potential liability that has expired may often be a lesser evil than to deprive the plaintiff of the right to reinstate the lost action. This will often be the case where the plaintiff is without fault and no actual prejudice to the defendant is readily apparent. But the justice of a plaintiff's claim is seldom likely to be strong enough to warrant a court reinstating a right of action against a defendant who, by reason of delay in commencing the action, is unable to fairly defend itself or is otherwise prejudiced in fact and who is not guilty of fraud, deception or concealment in respect of the existence of the action." 1385 There are, of course, no allegations of fraud, deception or concealment in these cases against the Commonwealth with respect to the applicants' failure to institute their respective actions within the conventional time limits. Speaking more generally, McHugh J went on to say at 555: "Legislatures enact limitation periods because they make a judgment, inter alia, that the chance of an unfair trial occurring after the limitation period has expired is sufficiently great to require the termination of the plaintiff's right of action at the end of that period. When a defendant is able to prove that he or she will not now be able to fairly defend him or herself or that there is a significant chance that this is so, the case is no longer one of presumptive prejudice. The defendant has then proved what the legislature merely presumed would be the case. Even on the hypothesis of presumptive prejudice, the legislature perceives that society is best served by barring the plaintiff's action. When actual prejudice of a significant kind is shown, it is hard to conclude that the legislature intended that the extension provision should trump the limitation period. The general rule that actions must be commenced within the limitation period should therefore prevail once the defendant has proved the fact or the real possibility of significant prejudice." 1386 I do not see, in this passage, a different approach to that taken by Toohey and Gummow JJ. In my view, the reference to the defendant being able "to prove that he or she will not now be able to fairly defend him or herself" is only an exacerbating example of the "evidentiary onus" to which Toohey and Gummow JJ referred at 548. 1387 In Holt v Wynter [2000] NSWCA 143 a court of five considered whether the approach of the New South Wales Court of Appeal in Salido v Nominal Defendant (1993) 32 NSWLR 524 was different from the approach suggested by the High Court in Brisbane South Regional Health Authority v Taylor. In the course of his judgment, Sheller JA, with whom Meagher and Handley JJA and Brownie AJA agreed, said at par 119: "In my opinion, the effect of the decision of the High Court in Brisbane South Regional Health Authority is that an application for an extension of time under limitation legislation should be refused if the effect of granting the extension would result in significant prejudice to the potential defendant." 1388 Paramasivam v Flynn is an example of another case that was summarily dismissed because of the very great prejudice to the respondent due to the lapse in time between the date of the alleged sexual assaults and the institution of the proceedings. The appellant had issued a writ and statement of claim on 23 April 1996 alleging that twenty years earlier in 1976, as a child of eleven years of age, he had been sexually assaulted by the respondent and that the respondent had, thereafter, continued to abuse him sexually on a regular basis until the appellant reached the age of twenty-one on 15 November 1985. The appellant sought damages for assault and for breach of fiduciary duty; the latter claim was based on the allegation that the respondent was, at material times, the appellant's guardian. The respondent filed a defence in which he denied all the allegations that had been made against him in the statement of claim; the respondent also pleaded that the action, having been commenced more than six years after the alleged causes of action had accrued, was barred by the relevant limitation legislation. The appellant filed a notice of motion seeking to extend the limitation period to the date of the issue of the writ; the respondent countered by filing a notice of motion seeking summary judgment on the ground that the claims were statute barred. The two notices came on for hearing at the same time and the judge at first instance found in favour of the respondent; his Honour held that the appellant had not discharged the onus of showing that it was "just and reasonable" to extend the time within which to commence the proceeding and, further, that the respondent was entitled to summary judgment against the appellant. 1389 The relevant legislation that the Court was required to consider in Paramasivam v Flynn included the Limitation Act 1985 (ACT). Subsection 36(2) of that Act imposed an onus on a plaintiff to satisfy the Court that it was "just and reasonable" to order an extension of time, whilst subs 36(3) identified matters that the Court "shall have regard to" in coming to its decision. Of the several matters that are listed in the subsection, the length of and the reasons for delay and the extent to which, having regard to the delay, there is, or is likely to be, prejudice to the defendant are the first two that are mentioned. The following passage from the judgment of the Full Court at 209-210 addressed the issue of delay and set the scene for the ultimate decision that the appellant's appeal should be dismissed: "In relation to delay, his Honour observed that the claim for the earliest of the assaults alleged became statute barred on 15 November 1985 while the claim for the most recent of the assaults became statute barred on 15 November 1991. It follows that the writ was 10˝ years 'out of time' in respect of the former and four and a half to five years in respect of the latter. The length of time from the first alleged assault in Fiji to the issue of the writ was in the order of 20 years and for the first alleged assault in Sydney more than 17 years. Thus the appellant was seeking a very substantial extension. His Honour considered that the nature of the appellant's case was such that it was forensically unrealistic to consider granting the extension of time in relation to only some of the later assaults. It was a case where evidence would have to be led in relation to all of the alleged assaults in order to establish a pattern of behaviour of the type for which the appellant contended and he would certainly be cross-examined at large." 1390 There are cases in which an extension of the time has been granted, notwithstanding that the respondent has established that it has suffered significant prejudice. One such case was the decision of Badgery-Parker J in George v Estate of Bailey & Ors (1998) Aust Torts Reports 81-455. In that case the defendant doctor had died, as had a number of other material witnesses. His Honour outlined his approach to assessing the effect of that prejudice, at 64,649 as follows: "In Szerdahelyi, I attempted to summarise the effect of Taylor's case as follows: 'What Taylor's case makes clear is that it rests upon the plaintiff to show that, notwithstanding the presumption of prejudice resulting from delay and notwithstanding such actual prejudice as the defendant (accepting the evidentiary burden to raise any consideration telling against the exercise of the discretion) may have established, the nature of the issues and the other evidence available in relation to those issues is such that the prejudice ceases to be significant in the sense that it does not threaten the prospect of a fair trial. Such being the law, it is obviously necessary in each case to identify the issues likely to arise at trial, to see how matters of prejudice that have been shown relate to those issues, and to consider the facts, so far as the evidence adduced permits, in order to see whether the plaintiff has discharged his burden of establishing that that prejudice to which the defendant is able to point is not significant because it does not seriously threaten the fairness of the trial.' To that I would now add this qualification: that there may be cases where notwithstanding significant prejudice to a defendant by reason of delay, there is something in the circumstances of the case which calls for a determination that justice requires an extension be granted, notwithstanding such prejudice." 1391 As was noted, in determining the Commonwealth's interlocutory application, the Commonwealth need only prove that material witnesses are no longer available to give evidence in order to discharge its evidentiary onus of establishing actual prejudice. However, the matter does not end there. In order to determine the significance of the prejudice, specifically its impact on a fair trial, it is necessary to consider the evidence that those witnesses might have given, its relevance to the issues and the availability of other evidence to "fill the gaps". 1392 Further, Brisbane South Regional Health Authority v Taylor did not decide that it was an error to take into account the justice of an applicant's claim in exercising the discretion. Several of the judgments emphasised that the discretion is to be exercised in the light of all the relevant facts and circumstances. Toohey and Gummow JJ expressed difficulty with the notion of weighing prejudice to an applicant against prejudice to a respondent, but they did not go so far as to say that the merits of the applicant's claim were not a relevant consideration. In Sydney City Council v Zegarac, Mason P explained the position, at 199-200 as follows: "In my view the notion of 'balancing' is unhelpful and misleading, if it suggests any more than looking at aspects of the respective positions of each party … The prejudice to a plaintiff whose application is refused is absolute, but this in itself is not enough to weigh the scales in that party's favour …." 1393 As the judgments in Brisbane South Regional Health Authority v Taylor and Sydney City Council v Zegarac demonstrate, the exercise of a discretion to extend time involves more complex considerations than simply balancing any prejudice suffered by the respondent by reason of the passage of time, against the inevitable prejudice an applicant will suffer if the application is refused. Where a respondent has demonstrated that it will suffer significant prejudice as a result of delay, an applicant is unlikely to be granted an extension of time merely because a good cause of action will be lost. On the other hand, it is relevant to consider the nature and strength of an applicant's claim and the injustice to an applicant where a time bar is the only defence to a good cause of action. Those matters are to be taken into account, together with all the other considerations relevant to the exercise of the discretion. 1394 The grounds upon which Mrs Cubillo maintains that it would be appropriate to grant her an extension of time were as follows: · she first became aware of her entitlement to take action against the Commonwealth, based on the causes of action that have been pleaded in her further amended statement of claim when her solicitors explained the causes of action to her in December 1997. I would have thought that the evidence pointed to that first awareness occurring in October 1996; however, nothing turns on that point because of my decision to follow the view of the majority in Ward v Walton; · she has never had the financial means to bring proceedings against the Commonwealth independently, and could not have done so without the assistance of the North Australian Aboriginal Legal Aid Service; I do not consider this to be a relevant consideration. There was no evidence that, if she had the financial means, she would have brought the proceedings earlier; · she has not delayed unreasonably in claiming the relief; · the psychological effects of her removal; · the failure of the Commonwealth and its officers to ensure that she had timely access to independent advice; and · any prejudice suffered by the Commonwealth by reason of the passage of time was not such as to deny the Commonwealth a fair trial. 1395 The act of removing Mrs Cubillo from Phillip Creek to the Retta Dixon Home was probably the most important part of Mrs Cubillo's case; all other allegations radiate out from that act of removal and her subsequent detention. The case for the Commonwealth would, so it was claimed by the Commonwealth, have been materially assisted by the evidence of Miss Amelia Shankelton, the Superintendent of the Retta Dixon Home during Mrs Cubillo's residency and the person who was said to have played a pivotal role in taking Mrs Cubillo from Phillip Creek to Darwin. It has also been denied the opportunity of calling Ms Dinham and Ms Spohn. The Commonwealth claimed that Miss Shankelton might have refuted the claim that Mrs Cubillo was removed without the consent of her family. But she is dead and the Commonwealth is deprived of the opportunity of investigating and using her evidence. The Commonwealth is not, of course, in a position to say that she and other deceased witnesses would have refuted Mrs Cubillo's claim: after all the witnesses are dead and no one knows what they might have said. However, I do not think that it is necessary for the Commonwealth to prove what the witnesses would have said; it is sufficient for it to prove that they would have been, more likely than not, material witnesses and that they are no longer available to give evidence because of the delay on the part of Mrs Cubillo in the institution of her proceedings. 1396 In par 1(a) of her further amended statement of claim, Mrs Cubillo alleged that she was, following her removal, "detained and kept away from her mother and family by the Director of Native Affairs …". She later identified the persons who held the office of Director during her detention as Messrs Chinnery, Carrington, Moy, Stahl, McCaffrey and Giese. All these men except Mr Giese are dead and Dr Burrows gave evidence that Mr Giese was not able to give evidence due to memory impairment and the onset of dementia. I have earlier said that in par 31 of her further amended statement of claim Mrs Cubillo claimed that there was a "general policy of removal and detention of half-caste children ... without regard to the individual circumstances" of the particular child. The Commonwealth has denied that there was such a policy. It took issue with the applicant's allegations, not only as to the policies of the Government that were formulated from time to time, but also as to the manner in which those policies were implemented. The Commonwealth's claim was that those policies were benign policies, directed to the welfare of part Aboriginal children and administered in terms consistent with those policies; its claim was that its capacity now to conduct its defences has been severely prejudiced by the passage of time and the loss of so many potential witnesses; it has been denied the opportunity of questioning people and of ascertaining whether, and to what extent (if at all), they would have been available as witnesses to assist the Commonwealth in the presentation of its defences. In order to substantiate that denial, the case for the Commonwealth would have been assisted, so it was argued, by the oral evidence of the senior bureaucrats and the political leaders of the day. 1397 The Commonwealth tendered, without objection, several affidavits of Elizabeth Monica Lajos. As I have earlier mentioned, Ms Lajos is a solicitor in the Office of Litigation in the employ of the Australian Government Solicitor, the solicitor for the Commonwealth in these proceedings. She was one of several solicitors who had the care and conduct of the matters on behalf of the Commonwealth. 1398 The first two of her affidavits, those dated 15 and 24 February 1999, were initially prepared and filed for use in the interlocutory proceedings. They were, however, separately tendered and received into evidence in the trial as exhibit R15 and exhibit R16 respectively. The main purpose of those affidavits was to persuade the Court that, because of the death of so many relevant persons, the Commonwealth would suffer irremediable hardship if the trial were permitted to proceed. For example, Ms Lajos deposed that, although investigations were then still continuing, the Commonwealth had ascertained that forty-one people were dead out of the fifty people referred to by name or title by Mrs Cubillo in her pleadings and her witness statement. In the case of Mr Gunner, the comparable figures were thirty-three deaths out of seventy people who had been named by Mr Gunner. Those figures were subsequently updated and minor amendments to them were made by Ms Lajos in her next affidavit – that of 24 February 1999 and again in final submissions. 1399 In addition to the persons who had been mentioned by Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner, Ms Lajos deposed in her first affidavit that there were other deceased people "whom I believe would have given relevant evidence in relation to the various matters alleged" either by Mrs Cubillo or by Mr Gunner; she claimed that there were thirty-three such people whose evidence might have been relevant with respect to Mrs Cubillo's claim and thirty-six people in the case of Mr Gunner. Ms Lajos then proceeded to name those persons, now dead, who she nominated as persons who might have been able to give relevant evidence in these proceedings. Her first bracket of such people were seven former Prime Ministers of Australia whose terms of office covered the years 1932 to 1966. Not knowing what they might have been able to say on the subject, means that Ms Lajos' claim cannot be dismissed out of hand but I must say that I would not have thought it necessary to have called former Prime Ministers of the country as part of the Commonwealth's defence. With one exception, much the same comment might be made, but with less emphasis, about Ms Lajos' second bracket of deceased witnesses – the former Commonwealth Ministers of State whose portfolios included the Northern Territory and Aboriginal Affairs. The notable exception was Sir Paul Hasluck who was Minister for Territories from 1951 to 1963. Sir Paul took a very active interest in Aboriginal affairs and although Mrs Cubillo was removed to the Retta Dixon Home before he took office, his term as Minister covered her last years at Retta Dixon Home and Mr Gunner's years at St Mary's. Fortunately, his writings were available and were received into evidence. There is a potential to regard him as one whose evidence might have been of material value to the Court, but, on the other hand, it is not immediately apparent that his written material needs amplification. 1400 The greatest difficulty that confronted the Commonwealth in the preparation of its defence was its loss of senior public servants who would have been able to give evidence, not only about Government policy with respect to the institutionalisation of part Aboriginal children, but, more importantly, about the manner in which that policy was implemented. Based on this view I am less concerned by the absences of Departmental Secretaries who were based in Canberra, but I am very concerned by the absences of the Directors and Acting Directors of Native Affairs and Directors of Welfare and, to a lesser extent, the Administrators of the Territory. 1401 Mr Moy was the Director of Native Affairs at the time of the removal of the Phillip Creek children. I am satisfied that he would have had some knowledge and some involvement in the removal of the children: otherwise, how else can Mr Penhall's presence at Phillip Creek be explained. But because of Mr Moy's death there is now no way of finding out the details of that knowledge or the details of that involvement. 1402 Mr McCaffrey, was the Acting Director of Native Affairs for three months from October 1949 to January 1950 while Mr Moy was on leave; he was also the acting Director for eighteen months from May 1953 to November 1954, following upon the termination of Mr Moy's appointment. Mr McCaffrey and Mr Moy would have been potentially valuable witnesses whose evidence might have been of assistance to the Court with respect to the standards and the operations of the Retta Dixon Home during the periods in which they held office. 1403 Miss Shankelton, and to a lesser extent, Ms Dinham and Ms Spohn were the subject of allegations concerning the way in which they treated the children at the Retta Dixon Home. They are all dead. The death of Miss Shankelton and the absence of her evidence is a huge gap. 1404 Mr Giese was the Director of Welfare at the time when Mr Gunner entered St Mary's, but as I have said, on the medical evidence, I am satisfied that he was not fit to attend Court. Such information as he might have been able to impart about the circumstances of the removal of Peter Gunner from Utopia has been lost. Mr Harry Kitching and Mrs Dora McLeod were both personally involved in events surrounding the removal of Peter Gunner from Utopia Station. Indeed Mr Kitching was probably the one who took Peter from Utopia to Alice Springs. But the passage of time has confused them; their memories do not now extend back to those events; that confusion has the potential to have an adverse effect on the Commonwealth in the preparation of its defence. 1405 The applicants tendered the affidavit of Michael David Schaefer dated 30 September 1999. Mr Schaefer described himself as a member of the firm of Holding Redlich, the Melbourne agents for the North Australian Aboriginal Legal Aid Service, the solicitors for the applicants. Mr Schaefer deposed that he had the care and conduct of these proceedings on behalf of the applicants. Mr Schaefer then stated that, as a consequence of reading the affidavits of Ms Lajos dated 15 and 24 February 1999 and because of the Commonwealth's case of alleged hardship, he caused inquiries to be made "to ascertain the names of relevant witnesses who are alive and could be called by the respondents in these proceedings". 1406 Mr Schaefer then listed forty-five people, purporting to claim that they were available to be called by the Commonwealth as witnesses. In fact, nineteen of those listed by Mr Schaefer were called by the Commonwealth and the absence of another, Mr Giese, was satisfactorily explained by medical evidence. Of the remaining twenty-five, there are a few that call for special comment but the balance can be summarily dismissed; it will, I think, be sufficient to give one or two examples of those twenty-five. The first of them was Ted Egan, a former patrol officer in the 1950s. As to him, Mr Schaefer said: "As a consequence of the positions he held, I believe Mr Egan could give relevant evidence as to: (1) the policy and practices of the Native Affairs / Welfare Branch in relation to the removal of half-caste children; and (2) the conditions and staff of the Retta Dixon Home." However, Mr Schaefer did not explain why or how he had formed that belief. Perhaps of greater significance, he did not explain what it was that Mr Egan could have said on those two subjects that was within the exclusive knowledge of Mr Egan. 1407 The position concerning Alexis Bishaw and William Coburn was more vague. Both were former patrol officers. Because of that experience – and for no other reason – Mr Schaefer expressed the belief that they "would be able to give evidence as to the policy and practices of the Welfare Branch in relation to the removal of half-caste children". In the vast volumes of written material that were tendered as evidence in this trial and in the thousands of pages of transcript of oral evidence, I have no recollection of their names being mentioned. There was nothing put by way of submissions that would invite one's interest in either of those men. In any event, there is no property in a witness. It was part of the applicants' case for them to prove that they were removed and detained pursuant to some inappropriate policy or for some inappropriate purpose. They could have called those former patrol officers (and the others who were nominated in Mr Schaefer's affidavit) just as they called Mr Reg Worthy. 1408 Unlike patrol officers Bishaw and Coburn, the name of patrol officer Syd Kyle-Little was mentioned during the course of the trial and, in turn, he has been mentioned in these reasons. He, like Mr Egan, was another who Mr Schaefer believed would be able to give evidence about the policies and practices of the Native Affairs Branch in relation to the removal of part Aboriginal children. Nothing in the evidence suggested, however, that either of them could have added to what the other witnesses for the Commonwealth had said. Once again, the remedy was in the hands of the applicants. They could have called these men if they thought that they had anything useful to offer. 1409 Special mention should be made of Stanley Matthews and his wife. According to Mr Schaefer, both were alive and, presumably, available to give evidence in the trial. It was Mr Schaefer's belief that they could give evidence as to the conditions and staff of the Retta Dixon Home during the time that they worked there. No doubt the applicants would have welcomed the opportunity to cross-examine Mr Matthews, in particular, about the allegations that had been made about his cruel behaviour by Mr Dentith. But, that is not, in my opinion, the approach that is to be taken when considering this issue of hardship. The Commonwealth did call witnesses who gave evidence about conditions at the Retta Dixon Home and the treatment of children. Those witnesses included Sister Johnson, Mrs Treloar, Mrs Harris and Mrs Ruby Matthews. It even called Mr Walter to give evidence on that subject. Mr Matthews' treatment of the little boys that led to his dismissal did not have an immediate bearing on Lorna Nelson; it cannot be said that because he was a person on the staff with a propensity for violence that the whole institution was infected with violence. To have called Mr Matthews and his wife might have been a bonus for the applicants, but it would have merely amounted, from the Commonwealth's viewpoint, to another cumulative witness on the same subject: that is, the subject of conditions at the Retta Dixon Home. The conduct of Mr Matthews was not part of Mrs Cubillo's case against the Commonwealth. No reference to it appears in her further amended statement of claim or in her particulars. There was no obligation on the Commonwealth to explain or contradict that section of the evidence that dealt with Mr Matthew's behaviour. 1410 There were, however, five persons who were referred to in Mr Schaefer's affidavit who, according to Mr Schaefer, might have been called as witnesses for the Commonwealth and were not. 1411 The first of these was Mrs Audrey Davy, the wife of the late Mr James Davy. In pursuing its case of "hardship" the Commonwealth, in my opinion, failed to recognise that many deceased people, who may have had an involvement in the life of Mrs Cubillo or the life of Mr Gunner, would not have been material witnesses if they had lived to be available to give evidence. For a respondent to complain that an applicant's delay in the institution of proceedings has occasioned hardship, it is necessary for the respondent to show how the deceased witnesses' evidence might have affected the presentation of the defence. Mr Davy is an example of a deceased person whose evidence would not have been of any great value if he had lived. James and Audrey Davy were missionaries with the Aborigines Inland Mission at Six Mile Creek and Phillip Creek. The Commonwealth claimed hardship because Mr Davy is dead; he died on 13 June 1999. However, there was no evidence that he was at Six Mile Creek when Lorna was there. The documentary evidence suggested that Mr and Mrs Davy left Phillip Creek in mid 1946, about twelve months before the children were taken to the Retta Dixon Home. The minutes of the meeting of the Missionary Council meeting of the Aborigines Inland Mission held on 4 and 5 April 1946 recorded a request from Mr and Mrs Davy for a transfer to New South Wales because of ill-health. The issue of "Our Aim" of 17 June 1946 recorded a note from Mr Thomas from Phillip Creek saying: "Mr and Mrs Davy have now left us, and we are settling down to the work once more." Finally the minutes of the Missionary Council meeting for 6 September 1946 recorded that Mr and Mrs Davy "took up their appointment last month at Walcha". His evidence might have been of general interest concerning life at Phillip Creek and how the Settlement operated but that would have been the limit of his evidence. In any case, his wife, Audrey, is alive; she could have been called as a witness in the trial if she had anything of value to say. I do not accept that the Commonwealth has been disadvantaged or prejudiced by the absence of Mr Davy. Because of that finding, I do not consider that the absence of Mrs Davy as a witness warrants any consideration. 1412 The second potential witness was Mr Reginald Marsh. It was Mr Schaefer's belief that between 1953 and 1962, Mr Marsh held the following positions in the Northern Territory Administration: · Assistant Secretary (Social and General) Department of Territories; · Acting Government Secretary, Northern Territory Administration; and · Assistant (and occasionally acting) Administrator of the Northern Territory. 1413 The seniority of Mr Marsh and the positions that he held in that decade would have gone some of the way towards ameliorating the hardship that the Commonwealth said it has suffered as a result of the deaths of former Administrators, Mr CLA Abbott; Mr AR Driver; Mr FJS Wise; and Mr JC Archer. During the course of her evidence in chief, Ms Lajos made mention of Mr Reginald Marsh. She agreed with counsel's proposition that Mr Marsh, who was aged ninety-three, held a number of senior positions in the Northern Territory Administration between 1953 and 1962. That was a critical period of time as it covered the latter part of Mrs Cubillo's stay at the Retta Dixon Home and most of Mr Gunner's stay at St Mary's Hostel. Ms Lajos added that Mr Marsh was living in Sydney and that she had had several discussions with him. She said that she had prepared a draft witness proof in his name but his health was not good, and an intended conference with counsel had to be cancelled. According to Ms Lajos, she understood, from what he had told her, that Mr Marsh was worried about the health of his son who lived in Western Australia and that he [Mr Marsh] had told her that he was intending to visit his son. Ms Lajos completed her evidence in chief with respect to Mr Marsh by informing the Court that senior counsel had indicated that he would not be calling Mr Marsh. Clearly Mr Marsh was, despite his age, a witness who was available to the Commonwealth and one who might have been of some assistance to the Court. There was no stated impediment. As Ms Lajos acknowledged, he appeared to be well enough to fly to Western Australia to visit his son. Counsel for the applicants noted that the Commonwealth in its final submissions had said of Mr Marsh that he was "a witness who could have spoken authoritatively about policy matters". However, the Commonwealth failed to adduce medical evidence that would have supported a finding that Mr Marsh was too sick or too frail to attend Court. The Commonwealth has taken time to name many people who worked in the Administration and in the Welfare Branch of the Administration in that time, complaining that their deaths constituted prejudice to it in the preparation of its defence. But in Mr Marsh they had a person who was, presumably, a senior officer of that time yet they declined to call him for some unknown reason. His absence makes one question the depth of their complaint. On the other hand, when a final balance is taken, I am unable to see how Mr Marsh could have possibly made up for the absence of Mr Moy, Mr McCaffrey, Mr Giese and Miss Shankelton. 1414 The third potential witness was Mrs Bessie Liddle, the wife of the late Mr Arthur Liddle of Angas Downs. It would have been of interest to hear her evidence about the circumstances of Mr Gunner's employment at Angas Downs. Was he paid wages? Why did Mr Liddle tell him that he was free to go? These were not mere matters of curiosity. They were directed to Mr Gunner's causes of action. He had alleged that his unlawful detention for which he held the Commonwealth liable, included the period that he spent at Angas Downs from February 1963 to September 1964. However, it could have been in the interests of Mr Gunner to have called her as part of his case; I do not see that some form of fault can be levelled against the Commonwealth for not producing her as a witness. 1415 The fourth potential witness was Mrs Eileen Barrett; she had been a house-mother at St Mary's Hostel from about 1957 or 1958 to 1960. Ms Beaton Wells in a memorandum of advice, commented on Mrs Barrett saying of her: "She can give detailed evidence about the living conditions and routines at St Mary's, matters relating to the children's health, education, discipline, use of native language, recreation and the like." That memorandum was initially put before the Court when the Commonwealth applied to have the evidence of frail and elderly witnesses taken in advance of the commencement of the trial proper. Mrs Barrett was advanced by the Commonwealth as one of the intended witnesses whose evidence should be taken expeditiously. The Commonwealth was successful in its application but it did not call Mrs Barrett, either at the preliminary stage or during the trial. Ms Lajos addressed the absence of Mrs Barrett and several other persons in her affidavit dated 16 November 1999. She tendered a medical report to the effect that Mrs Barrett was "incapable of making a trip to Darwin". The doctor concluded his report by saying that Mrs Barrett "would be capable of undergoing limited interview although this may have adverse effects on her health". Ms Lajos was cross-examined on the contents of that affidavit on the following day, 17 November by Mr Dreyfus. He put to her Ms Beaton‑Wells' advice on the utility of Mrs Barrett as a witness. Ms Lajos said that she was aware of that advice, adding that an assessment of the likely value of Mrs Barrett's evidence had changed. Ms Lajos said: "We'd only been investigating for a few months and Ms Barrett was seen as more important than we would rate her now." I do not consider that the absence of Mrs Barrett was a matter of critical importance. Having accepted the contents of the reports that were submitted by Mrs Ballagh and others which, in many respects, were either agreed to or not challenged by the Commonwealth's witnesses, I do not think that the evidence of Mrs Barrett could have had a material effect on my findings. It was counsel for Mr Gunner who complained of her absence but counsel was not able to persuade me that there was or might be an aspect of Mrs Barrett's evidence that would offer a new dimension about St Mary's and its facilities. 1416 Finally, there was Mrs Audrey Walter, the wife of Mr Des Walter. Her absence was most noticeable, having regard to the nature of the accusation that Mrs Cubillo had levelled against Mr Walter. The Commonwealth had to bear the brunt of its failure to call her when the time came to make findings about Mrs Cubillo's accusation. But Mrs Walter's absence played no part in making an assessment of the hardship that the Commonwealth has suffered because of the delay in the institution of these proceedings. 1417 Some persons who were named by one or other of the applicants as people who had an involvement in their early lives could not be located by the Commonwealth. By way of example, one such person was Miss Malcolm, a welfare officer at Alice Springs during the time Peter Gunner was an inmate of St Mary's. Ms Beaton-Wells explained that evidence that those persons were missing and could not be located was not being led in support of the Commonwealth's claim that it has been prejudiced by the delay in the institution of these proceedings. The only purpose in leading the evidence of the existence or prior existence of those people was to explain that they had not been overlooked; they were not regarded as persons of significance to the Commonwealth's case. I do not propose, therefore, to refer any further to these people. 1418 Ms Lajos was asked in cross-examination whether investigators on behalf of the Commonwealth had interviewed persons who, as children, had been residents of either St Mary's or the Retta Dixon Home and who had not been called as witnesses. In fact, cross-examining counsel named four such persons, thereby indicating that their existence was known to the applicants. Ms Lajos was able to agree that she knew of three of them who had been interviewed but not called as witnesses by the Commonwealth. I am not sure what counsel for the applicants intended to gain from this line of inquiry. My immediate reaction was that those persons had the potential to be witnesses for the applicants' case and that they were, presumably, available to the applicants, as much as they were available to the Commonwealth. 1419 Counsel for the Commonwealth acknowledged that there were a number of available documents that reflected the policies of the Government of the day. Acknowledging that those documents would speak for themselves, counsel nevertheless submitted that they would offer no assurance that they reflected all aspects of policy. That proposition could only be correct if material documents were missing so that the available documents did not thereby disclose the complete picture. If it was intended to mean that oral evidence that would supplement or, perhaps, contradict the contents of the documents has been lost as a result of deaths, I consider the submission to be misconceived. The thought that matters of importance relative to policy issues were not committed to writing has little or no appeal. It does not follow that the Commonwealth was thereby prejudiced. To say, as was suggested by the Commonwealth during the course of its submissions, that it had lost the opportunity to lead oral evidence as to which writing correctly reflected the policies that applied to Mrs Cubillo or to Mr Gunner – or to part Aboriginal children in general – was to overlook the possibility that (absent any question of ambiguity) oral evidence as to the meaning of a written document would not normally be admissible. It would seem to me that, in dealing with a matter of such importance as official Government policy on a nominated issue, the likelihood of oral evidence being admitted to supplement or contradict official policy documents would be remote. 1420 Nevertheless, the case for the Commonwealth was dominated, in my opinion, by the claim that it has suffered irreparable prejudice through the absence of material witnesses and the infirmities of others. In short, the case for the Commonwealth was that so much time has gone by and so many material witnesses are now dead that it was not possible for the Commonwealth to present its defence adequately. The strength of the Commonwealth's claims, based on the decisions in Brisbane South Regional Health Authority v Taylor and Paramasivam v Flynn, is, in my opinion, overwhelming. I have come to the conclusion that its defence, based on prejudice, must prevail. In Sydney City Council v Zegarac, Mason P summarised the effect of the judgment in Brisbane South Regional Health Authority v Taylor and concluded at 199: "… I would hold that proof of actual prejudice, even 'significant' prejudice, does not dictate the rejection of an application for extension of time. All of the circumstances of the case must be taken into account … If this is 'individualised justice', it was what parliament intended. Evidence of actual or significant prejudice may lead to refusal of the application, depending on the particular circumstances of the case. In weighing prejudice, its impact upon a fair trial is the primary focus …" I have not overlooked those remarks; nor have I overlooked the personal positions of the applicants who, as part Aboriginal persons, have only in recent years begun to realise that they, as citizens of this country, have the same rights and the same access to the courts as all other Australians. 1421 Were it not for the irremediable prejudice that the Commonwealth would suffer, there would be much that could be said in Mrs Cubillo's favour: · in the first place, a refusal to exercise a discretion in her favour will bring her causes of action to an end; the hardship that she will suffer will be total; she will have no other remedy at law; · the nature of this case was so huge, complex and time consuming that a person in Mrs Cubillo's position could not possibly have understood, without the benefit of legal advice, that she had – or may have had – causes of action against some person or institution or statutory officer holder or Government; · a person in her position could not be expected to commence and prosecute litigation of this magnitude without substantial assistance; · following in the footsteps of X (Minors), Barrett, the New Zealand cases and some Australian cases such as Williams v Minister [No 2] these proceedings are entering a new domain where social welfare legislation and its implementation is being challenged; and · there has been a very long delay but that has been explained through lack of knowledge of the existence of legal rights and remedies. 1422 The applicants have urged the Court to conclude that the prejudice that has been identified by the Commonwealth is not such as to deny the Commonwealth a fair trial. In pursuing this particular submission, counsel for Mrs Cubillo said that while Miss Shankelton was not available to give evidence about the removal of Mrs Cubillo and the others from Phillip Creek, "Mr Penhall, the Commonwealth employee directly involved, was available and did give evidence. [H]is memory of the event was clear". That was an unusual and potentially dangerous submission because it was Mr Penhall's understanding – an understanding that I did not share – that Miss Shankelton had obtained the consents of the Aboriginal mothers to her taking their children away. 1423 The extent of the hardship that the Commonwealth would face is best evidenced by considering the cause of action for false imprisonment. Mrs Cubillo, having led evidence of her taking, has established a prima facie case of imprisonment; there is therefore an onus on the Commonwealth (putting to one side the question of vicarious liability) to satisfy the Court that the taking was lawful. How can the Commonwealth do that? Every person who was in authority, such as Mr Moy is dead; no writings on the removal of the children have been located. The Commonwealth has no chance whatsoever of defending the actions of the Director of Native Affairs in 1947. There are important areas where the Commonwealth has had a fair trial. It has not been embarrassed in the preparation of its defence to the accusations against Mr Walter and Mr Constable. However, important though those matters were, they were only adjuncts to the basic claims which, in each case, was the claim of unlawful removal and unlawful detention. 1424 I turn next to consider whether the Court should exercise its discretion in favour of Mr Gunner. The factors that favoured Mrs Cubillo also exist in the case of Mr Gunner and favour him. A refusal would mean an end to his claims for common law damages; his case, like Mrs Cubillo's was huge, complex and time consuming, involving relatively new attacks on social welfare legislation; he could not have been expected to know that he had or may have had causes of action available to him and he could not have been expected to mount such complex litigation without substantial legal aid. His long delay in the institution of his proceedings is understandable and the curiosity of his statement of claim being filed before his awareness of his psychiatric condition is, I would think, of his solicitors' making – not of his. 1425 It was submitted on behalf of both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner that they will each lose a claim that was described as "an otherwise good claim against the Commonwealth" if extensions of time are not granted. It was said that their hardship of losing a remedy against a respondent "whose only defence is the statute of limitations" was great. Those propositions must be examined. At this stage of my reasons, I am proceeding upon the premise that, contrary to my findings, each applicant had sustainable causes of action against the Commonwealth. Notionally therefore, I have to proceed on the premise that both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner might be found to have "an otherwise good claim against the Commonwealth". But it would be unfair to dismiss the stand taken by the Commonwealth as a defence that was based "only" on the statute of limitations. Such a submission overlooks that, because of the delay in the institution of these proceedings, for which the Commonwealth is not responsible, the Commonwealth has been denied the opportunity in each case of mounting a defence on the merits. I have already explained the Commonwealth's position with respect to Mrs Cubillo – Mr Moy is dead and there are no records. In the case of Mr Gunner, the Commonwealth was on firmer ground. It had several documents that tended to favour it mounting a successful defence but it lacked the evidence of Mr Giese; and the evidence of Mr Kitching and Mrs McLeod was materially impaired through age, infirmity, confusion and loss of memory. Far from saying that the Commonwealth's only defence was the statute of limitations, the evidence that was led by the Commonwealth in answer to Mr Gunner's claims showed that the Commonwealth had a defence on the merits to his allegation that it was responsible for his removal from Utopia. Laches 1426 The Commonwealth contends that the applicants' claims for equitable compensation for breach of fiduciary duty are barred by analogy to the barring by statute of their common law claims as well as by the equitable defence of laches. Lindsay Petroleum Co v Hurd (1874) 5 LRPC 221 is recognised as the leading authority on the doctrine of laches. Sir Barnes Peacock said at 239-240: "Now the doctrine of laches in Courts of Equity is not an arbitrary or a technical doctrine. Where it would be practically unjust to give a remedy, either because the party has, by his conduct, done that which might fairly be regarded as equivalent to a waiver of it, or where by his conduct and neglect he has, though perhaps not waiving that remedy, yet put the other party in a situation in which it would not be reasonable to place him if the remedy were afterwards to be asserted, in either of these cases, lapse of time and delay are most material. But in every case, if an argument against relief, which otherwise would be just, is founded upon mere delay, that delay of course not amounting to a bar by any statute of limitations, the validity of that defence must be tried upon principles substantially equitable. Two circumstances, always important in such cases, are, the length of the delay and the nature of the acts done during the interval, which might affect either party and cause a balance of justice or injustice in taking the one course or the other, so far as relates to the remedy." That laches is an equitable defence that operates according to the equities in a particular case was made clear by Deane J in Orr v Ford (1989) 167 CLR 316. His Honour in discussing what is meant by "gross laches" said at 340-341: "On balance, the preferable approach is to treat the phrase 'gross laches' as an intentionally imprecise one which involves not merely considerations of the period of the relevant delay but which invokes the traditional notions of equity and good conscience which are the general determinants of whether a plaintiff should be refused relief by reason of laches in the circumstances of a particular case. On that approach, the phrase refers to circumstances where inaction or standing by (with knowledge) by a plaintiff over a substantial period of time assumes an aggravated character in that it will, if the plaintiff is granted the relief which he seeks, give rise to serious and unfair prejudice to the defendant or a third party. So understood, the use of the phrase 'gross laches' does little to aid the identification of particular circumstances in which a defence of laches will preclude relief being granted to a beneficiary in an action for the enforcement of an express trust. The ultimate test effectively remains that enunciated … in Lindsay Petroleum Co v Hurd, namely, whether the plaintiff has, by his inaction and standing by, placed the defendant or a third party in a situation in which it would be inequitable and unreasonable 'to place him if the remedy were afterwards to be asserted' …" 1427 The applicants, for their part, deny that their equitable claims should be barred, arguing that the following matters reflect upon them favourably: · they only became aware of their rights to sue the Commonwealth when told of those rights by their solicitors; · until then they were unaware of their psychiatric injuries and of any evidence that would establish their existence; · they did not delay unreasonably in claiming relief; · their failure to claim relief earlier was due, in part, to the conduct of the Commonwealth and its officers who induced in them a belief that their removal and detention was legitimate and proper conduct: it was also due, in part, to the failure of the Commonwealth and its officers to ensure that they had access to timely independent advice and representation: and, finally, it was due, in part, to the psychological effects of their removal and detention; · they lacked the financial means to prosecute their claims; and · any prejudice that was suffered by the Commonwealth by reason of the passage of time would not be such as to deny the Commonwealth a fair trial. 1428 In determining whether the Court should interfere and so prevent the applicants from pursuing equitable claims against the Commonwealth, the first matter to bear in mind is that the law has not seen fit to prescribe a limitation period in respect of claims for equitable relief. As a result, matters such as the public interest in bringing litigation to an end within a specified time, do not have the same impact as they do when considering common law claims. The second matter to bear in mind is that although the allegations in these proceedings of breaches of fiduciary duties are grounded on the same facts that were said to give rise to the common law claims, the duties that are cast on a fiduciary are strict; unlike a common law duty of care, they cannot be met merely by taking reasonable care or by acting honestly and in good faith: Permanent Building Society (in liq) v McGee (1993) 11 ACSR 260 at 287 per Arnderson J; see also Permanent Building Society (in liq) v Wheeler (1994) 11 WAR 187. 1429 If the claims are properly based on a fiduciary relationship, the remedy of equitable compensation is potentially a superior alternative to a claim in tort: c.f. Bennett v Minister of Community Welfare (1992) 176 CLR 408 at 426-427 per McHugh J. Even though a statute of limitations does not apply directly to a claim for equitable relief, it may be applied by analogy if similar relief to that which is available at common law is sought: Motor Terms Co Pty Ltd v Liberty Insurance Ltd (in liq) (1967) 116 CLR 177 at 184. 1430 If, contrary to my findings, there were fiduciary relationships between the applicants and the Commonwealth and the Commonwealth breached its fiduciary duties or if the Commonwealth was knowingly a party to the Directors breaching their fiduciary duties to the applicants, I would not be inclined to regard the relief claimed for such breaches as analogous to claims for damages for injury and loss consequent upon breaches of common law duties – the more so if I were of the opinion that the Commonwealth and its officers failed to ensure that Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner had access to legal advice during their wardships. However, I do not consider that the evidence permits such findings to be made. If the applicants had managed to raise a prima facie case that a Director might have acted outside the protection of s 6 of the 1918 Ordinance, or if they had adduced evidence that suggested that, in so acting, the Director knew or ought reasonably to have known that he had so acted or that he proceeded to act recklessly, not caring whether or not he was acting within the parameters of s 6, then the alleged failure of the Commonwealth, the Directors and their officers to advise the applicants of their right would have taken on an important complexion and the defences of "analogy" and laches might have been denied to the Commonwealth. 1431 Before an equitable remedy will be refused by reason of delay, it is usually necessary that the applicant has sufficient knowledge of the facts that constitute his or her entitlement to relief. The central question is whether the knowing delay of an applicant has prejudiced the respondent, and not whether prejudice has resulted from the mere passage of time. I am satisfied that neither applicant had any knowledge of his or her potential rights against the Commonwealth that would in any way justify an assertion of a failure to act. There was nothing to support a contention that the Commonwealth was prejudiced by the knowing delay or neglect on the part of the applicants, as opposed to delay while they were ignorant of material facts and of their legal rights. Even if it could be said that there was knowing delay by an applicant, the period of the delay is only one consideration. It is not, of itself, sufficient reason to refuse relief on the ground of laches. Other considerations are "the traditional notions of equity and good conscience which are the general determinants of whether a plaintiff should be refused relief by reason of laches in the circumstances of a particular case": Orr v Ford at 340-341 per Deane J. The Court must decide: "… whether the delay of the plaintiff constitutes acquiescence or results in circumstances that make the prosecution of the action unreasonable. Ultimately laches must be resolved as a matter of justice between the parties as is the case with any equitable doctrine." (M(K) v M(H) at 334 per La Forest J.) Some argue that there comes a time when a potential respondent should be secure in his reasonable expectation that he will not be held to account from his ancient obligations. La Forest J in M(K) v M(H) regarded that rationale as "a singularly unpersuasive ground for a strict application of the Statute of limitations": at 302. That, however, was a case of incest and, as his Honour said, "there is absolutely no corresponding public benefit in protecting individuals who perpetrate incest from the consequences of their wrongful actions". 1432 It is a question of doing justice between the parties. If the Court were to find that the Commonwealth had breached fiduciary obligations to the applicants or was knowingly involved in breaches by the Directors, there would be no justice in denying relief to the applicants only because the breaches occurred a long time ago. But that is not the case. For the reasons that I have already discussed, I consider that the history of these matters heavily favours the Commonwealth, if not by way of analogy, then certainly by the application of the principle of laches. 1433 I do not believe that there were fiduciary relationships in existence between the Commonwealth and the applicants and I do not believe that the Commonwealth was knowingly a party to any breach of any fiduciary duty that a Director of Native Affairs might have owed to an applicant. If, however, there were a fiduciary relationships subsisting between a Director and an applicant and if that Director committed a breach of that fiduciary relationship, I do not believe that the Commonwealth was vicariously liable for that breach. If I am wrong in one or other of those findings and, for one reason or another, there is the potential for an applicant to pursue a case against the Commonwealth, it would be grossly unfair to allow that case to proceed. In the case of Mrs Cubillo, the Commonwealth does not have access to the witnesses and the evidentiary material that it would need to mount its defence. In the case of Mr Gunner, three of the Commonwealth's most important witnesses, Mr Giese, Mr Kitching and Mrs McLeod were either not available or their memories were badly affected by the passage of time. 1434 Viewing both applicants' claims on the most favourable basis, I would decline to exercise my discretion in their favour; I would not extend time for bringing their common law claims and on the principle of laches, I would bar their claims for equitable relief. Psychiatric Evidence 1435 Dr Gibney, a consulting psychiatrist interviewed Mrs Cubillo for the purpose of these proceedings on 23 April 1998 and on a second occasion on 24 June 1999. He was of the opinion that she suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder of increasing severity; he also considered that she suffered depression of mild to moderate severity with episodes of more severe depression. Dr Bell, on the other hand, who interviewed her on 12 June 1998 at the request of the Commonwealth, considered that she does not suffer from any mental illness at all. Despite the conflict in the opinions of the medical practitioners, I have come to the conclusion that I favour Dr Gibney's diagnosis. 1436 Speaking of the circumstances of the removal of the children from Phillip Creek and their effect on Mrs Cubillo, Dr Gibney said: "Certainly her symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder involve that situation specifically and I think the type of situation that's described would have a lasting emotional impact on a child and would sensitise it to emotional disturbance throughout life and could well contribute to ongoing emotional disturbance in the form of depression." 1437 He added that Mrs Cubillo, as a consequence of the incidents of her removal would have started life emotionally impaired, reacting to emotional events with more disturbance than a person who had not had her earlier experiences. 1438 It was his opinion that "the type of separation from family that she experienced is likely to cause depression in later life", but although he thought her depression dated back to Phillip Creek he acknowledged "that other experiences in her life have been distressing and upsetting". 1439 Dr Gibney was questioned during the course of his cross-examination about the possibility that Mrs Cubillo's psychiatric condition may have been caused by events other than her removal and detention: "Were there events that occurred during her life which in your professional opinion may have led to her suffering from depression, not exacerbating existing depression but in themselves would have led to depression, in those reports that you have read? --- I don't think there's anything there that would certainly have led to a depressive illness but I think that … . Well, probably? --- I think her unhappy marriage, cancer surgery, the worry of the nine breast lumps being removed. I think there were a number of things that would influence her emotional condition." 1440 Dr Gibney maintained his opinions under cross-examination. He said: "The incidents – the traumas that caused her post traumatic stress disorder arose and were caused by the incidents in her childhood and her symptoms relate to those incidents in her childhood and that is the diagnostic point of post-traumatic stress disorder. Her depression I believe arose in her childhood. I think it has been influenced by other traumatic incidents - emotional and physical – in her life, and I think it has worsened recently in the last 12 months or so because she has been forced to recount and repeat the traumatic incidents of her childhood." Those views were supported, in principle, by Mr Milliken, who, because of his training in psychology was questioned on this subject during his cross examination: "And you would agree that for any child that had bonds with mother or family, to be isolated totally from the mother and family over a period of six of eight years would lead to the complete breakdown in that family relationship? --- I'd say it would very greatly disturb it and might not lead to a complete breakdown, but it would certainly disturb it. Yes, it would. Not only, would I suggest, Mr Milliken, would it disturb the relationship, but it has the very great potential to cause psychological disturbance to the child involved? --- Yes." Dr Gibney considered that Mrs Cubillo has a need for continuing treatment by way of counselling and he estimated the costs of such treatment at $100 per hour. 1441 The duration and regularity of that treatment was difficult to assess. Dr Gibney said: "I think it would be helpful if she had a counsellor available who understood her situation and was familiar with her situation to consult when she needed to and there might be times when she needed a consultation such as that weekly or even twice weekly for a few weeks; other times when she could go for many months without such a consultation, but I think from the point of view of safety, because she was quite deeply, clinically depressed the second time I saw her and I thought there was some risk of suicide and I was impressed by the deterioration in her condition during those two interviews and I think when she's in that sort of state its important that she have somebody with professional training available to supervise her and to help her." 1442 To an extent, the views of Dr Gibney were supported by Dr Kenny. Dr Barry Kenny, a consultant psychiatrist, interviewed Mrs Cubillo on 7 October 1996 and made a psychiatric assessment of her. He did not give evidence but the letter of instructions to him from Mrs Cubillo's solicitors, the North Australian Aboriginal Legal Aid Service dated 27 September 1996, and his report of 1 December 1996, were tendered as exhibits in the trial. Dr Kenny's report disclosed that Mrs Cubillo had told him during his interview with her about: · her early childhood and removal to the Retta Dixon Home; · her time at the Retta Dixon Home; · her experiences at the hands of Mr Walter; · her alcoholic violent husband, her intellectually impaired son and her son who was then currently in gaol; · her suicide attempt in 1975 shortly after Cyclone Tracy; and · her "whiplash injury" at work in 1988. It would seem that the only matter of importance that Mrs Cubillo failed to mention to Dr Kenny was her poor state of health prior to her injury in 1988. 1443 Dr Kenny accepted as accurate Mrs Cubillo's history of her early childhood and her time at the Retta Dixon Home. This led him to write: "I have no reason to doubt Mrs Cubillo's history and I accept that she was attempting to give a good account of herself. She is a woman who has obviously experienced a range of dreadful traumas." 1444 Some of the comments that Dr Kenny made, all of which would have resulted from what Mrs Cubillo told him, and which are relevant to these proceedings, included the following: · "She was reared by her mother's sister – Maisie – who obviously treated her well"; · "Mrs Cubillo was not certain at what age she was removed from her family, but she was obviously old enough to remember how traumatic it was, as well as being able to recall the traumatic experience of moving to Darwin"; · "The period that she spent in the viciously primitive Christian institution in Darwin; while there, she was subjected to harsh and sadistic punishment for minimal, if any, reasons"; · "She also received little, if any, emotional warmth from those looking after her"; · "She married 'a man who was a violent and abusive alcoholic'"; and · "She had six children and obviously undertook most of the work, supporting that family and tolerating her husband's totally unacceptable behaviour." 1445 Dr Kenny expressed several tentative opinions in his report. In the first place he said that he had no doubt that: "For some time after that [ie the trauma of being taken away from her family and being moved to the Retta Dixon Home] she could have been described as having a post-traumatic stress disorder related to these events. Although one could state that she has some residual symptoms of that condition, even at this stage, she certainly no longer suffers from the full-blown syndrome." Speaking of her time at the Retta Dixon Home, Dr Kenny said of Mrs Cubillo: "I am certain that during much of that time one may well have been able to diagnose Mrs Cubillo as having been a depressed child, in response to the emotional starvation, the harsh and punitive environment and the fear that she experienced." 1446 But, as Dr Kenny acknowledged, he was engaging in speculation when he wrote that Mrs Cubillo "was probably depressed during some of those years, presumably at a fluctuating level". At page 7 of his report, Dr Kenny indicated that Mrs Cubillo had suffered long terms of depression from childhood to the present time; he was of the opinion that she had had some periods during which she suffered symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder as a child. However, at the time of his consultation, Dr Kenny did not believe Mrs Cubillo suffered from a psychiatric condition. Dr Kenny concluded his report: "I am certain that she has had significant periods of depression extending from childhood until the present time and feel certain that there would have been some periods during which she suffered from the symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder as a child. Although she experiences sad feelings and feelings of regret and alienation, I am not able to state that she has a continuing psychiatric disturbance as such, at present. That is not to state that in the past she has not had psychiatric disturbances from time to time, but at present, I do not consider that she suffers from a psychiatric condition." 1447 Following upon the receipt of Dr Kenny's report, Mrs Cubillo's solicitors arranged for her to be interviewed by another consulting psychiatrist, a Dr Petchkovsky. Later again, she saw Dr Gibney. Asked whether she had told Dr Petchkovsky that she was three years of age when her mother died of pneumonia, Mrs Cubillo remonstrated saying: "I didn't say any such thing. How could I be diagnosing my mother's illness. I never even knew her and I didn't even know when she died." 1448 The hostility that is evident in that answer, surfaced quite often throughout Mrs Cubillo's cross-examination. Assuming that she had not made such a statement to the doctor, a simple "No! I didn't say that" would have been sufficient. It was not as if the question had come at the end of a bitter exchange between cross-examiner and witness. However, the cross-examiner persisted. Mrs Cubillo agreed that she had been alone when she saw Dr Petchkovsky. There was no one else present to tell him about Mrs Cubillo's mother. When Ms Hollingworth for the Commonwealth put to Mrs Cubillo that Dr Petchkovsky had recorded in his report that Lorna was three when her mother died of pneumonia, Mrs Cubillo strangely changed her answer saying: "Again, Ms Hollingworth, I could have said my mother died and could assume that she died of these things. I didn't even know my mother so I don't know when she died." 1449 Dr Petchkovsky did not give evidence; his report dated 28 October 1996 was tendered in evidence, not for the truth of its contents, but to support Mrs Cubillo's application for an extension of time. 1450 Counsel for the Commonwealth submitted that Mrs Cubillo, when interviewed by her examining psychiatrist, failed to supply Dr Gibney with a complete and accurate history of her personal circumstances. It was also alleged that much of the information that was provided to him for the purpose of his diagnosis has not been borne out by the evidence. 1451 The areas of contradiction can be summarised as follows: · in her evidence it was not clear that Maisie was at Phillip Creek when the children were removed but Dr Gibney reported that Mrs Cubillo began to weep as she told him "that the woman she regarded as being her mother was present as they were leaving Phillip Creek and she can remember that woman chasing after the truck"; · Mrs Cubillo told Dr Gibney that she could recall being flogged with a strap if "she didn't get away from relatives who visited her quick enough". Mrs Cubillo gave no such evidence in Court; · the following passage in Dr Gibney's report was not mentioned by Mrs Cubillo in her evidence: "She also thinks about the way that other Aboriginal children were treated badly. One of her relatives was kept chained because she used to take epileptic fits. She has dreams about being in chains herself. Mrs Cubillo told me that she had been somewhat pre-occupied recently about that girl being chained. She used to call out to Mrs Cubillo to help 'unravel' her when her chain got caught up in the legs of a cyclone wire bed. Mrs Cubillo was weeping as she told me this." · Mrs Cubillo told Dr Gibney that when Mr Walter accosted her in the car, she had an impulse to jump out of the moving vehicle. She did not say that in her evidence; · Mrs Cubillo told Dr Gibney that she had the care of two of her grandchildren; she also told him that her son, Phillip, was a drug addict. She appears not to have told him that her two other sons had been in gaol and she did not tell him that she had seen her general medical practitioner about stress, anxiety and lack of sleep due to her worry about Phillip; and · Mrs Cubillo did not tell Dr Gibney the full extent of the problems that were associated with her work injury and her evidence about her suicide thoughts was different to the information that she gave to Dr Gibney. 1452 Save for the question of Maisie's whereabouts when the truck left Phillip Creek, I do not regard these and other like discrepancies as important. Quite often these types of discrepancies occur because of the detail of the questions that are asked. If the narrator concentrates on subject A, it frequently happens that she or he omits to make reference to subject B. The whereabouts of Maisie is a different matter. That subject was specifically put to her by her counsel: "Mrs Cubillo, when you were taken away from Phillip Creek was your mother, Maisie, at Phillip Creek? --- No, she wasn't." In light of the evidence of Kathleen Napanangka, this answer was probably incorrect and Mrs Cubillo's answer to Dr Gibney was correct. 1453 Dr Bell, who examined Mrs Cubillo at the request of the Commonwealth, was of the opinion that Mrs Cubillo was not suffering from any mental illness. 1454 Unlike the depth of the attack on the evidence of Dr Gibney, the Commonwealth's closing submissions in respect of the acceptance of Dr Bell's opinions lacked any detail. They were limited to these observations: "Even though he clearly found her a sympathetic character when he examined her and took her at her word, Dr Bell's diagnosis was that Cubillo does not suffer from PTSD or from any other mental illness, and does not require psychiatric treatment or other medical care. His diagnosis did not suffer from the defects of Dr Gibney's and should be preferred to that of Dr Gibney. It is, of course, also supported by the report of Dr Kenny, the first doctor to whom the applicant's lawyers had sent Cubillo." (footnotes omitted) 1455 The applicants, in their final submissions claimed that the removal and detention of each applicant "was conduct undertaken without any regard to their prevailing psychiatric and psychological principles of the raising of children". They submitted that the evidence of contemporary psychiatric and psychological standards that was presented on behalf of the applicants was not challenged by the Commonwealth: that those standards were known to the Commonwealth: and that they were widely disseminated. The Manual of Child Psychology, ed Carmichael, London Wiley, 1946 noted the importance of affection in a child's normal development and the role played by parental affection in behaviour disorder. Mr Milliken acknowledged that those considerations were well known in psychology in the 1940s and the 1950s. 1456 Whilst I accept that these standards may have been known in those times, that does not conclude the matter. It does not, for example, mean that all institutions were inappropriate or that all children who were inmates of institutions suffered reactionary illness or injury as a result of their institutionalisation. The evidence of the existence and probable knowledge of those standards is relevant, but only as an aid in considering the personal circumstances of each applicant. The assertion by the applicants that the importance of affection in the applicants' upbringing "was ignored in the conduct of the Commonwealth" is but another example of the many occasions when the applicants have attempted to use the absence of evidence as purported support for a claim against the respondents. In the case of Mrs Cubillo, there is no evidence from either party touching upon the issue whether the Native Affairs Branch addressed the question of affection in Mrs Cubillo's upbringing. It would be conjecture to say that the Director and his officers did not, just as it would be conjecture to say that they did. In the case of Mr Gunner, the many letters that were tendered point positively to Mr Giese and his officers having real concerns about the need to have Topsy's support. Those concerns translate, in my opinion, to a recognition of the importance of affection. 1457 Mr Gunner was interviewed by two psychiatrists, Dr Phillips and Dr Waters. Dr Phillips interviewed him on 13 May 1998. Dr Waters who specialises in the field of child psychiatry, interviewed him on 14 and 15 May 1998. Both were of the opinion that, as a consequence of his removal and his subsequent experiences during his detention at St Mary's, Mr Gunner suffers from chronic dysthymic disorder or a chronic depression. They said that this disorder has resulted in fluctuations in the chronicity of depression leading to bouts of severe depression. He has suffered also, in their opinion, from a separation anxiety disorder and post-traumatic stress disorder. However, it is the diagnosis of dysthymic disorder that best captures the chronicity of Mr Gunner's physical condition. In his report dated 29 July 1998, Dr Phillips described the disorders that he had diagnosed in Mr Gunner: "Dysthymic disorder is best described as a chronic lower grade depressive syndrome, not uncommonly initiated by psychological trauma or perpetuated by ongoing psychological distress. The disorder can be severely disabling and affect a person's function in the major domains of life. Separation anxiety disorder is characterized by a child developing inappropriate and excessive anxiety concerning separation from parents or home, with the development of current or ongoing distress linked with separation, persistent worry about losing major attachment figures, rumination about issues leading to or having caused separation and sometimes disturbed sleep with nightmares linked thematically with the themes of separation." 1458 The evidence did not satisfy me, however, that those disorders would depend for their existence on a forced removal against a mother's wishes; they would exist, as I understand, because of the child's reaction to the removal, even if it was with the mother's consent. 1459 Dr Bell, who interviewed Mr Gunner at the request of the Commonwealth on 15 May 1998 came to the conclusion that the account that Mr Gunner gave him did not indicate that he had a mental illness; it did not indicate that he had post-traumatic stress disorder. Dr Bell noted that Mr Gunner had given him an account of depression but he (Dr Bell) attributed that, in part at least, to Mr Gunner's alcoholism and in general, to "the normal response of depression to the adversities of life". 1460 Dr Phillips' evidence about Mr Gunner's history, as it had been relayed to him by Mr Gunner, showed that there were several discrepancies with Mr Gunner's evidence. In the first place, Mr Gunner failed to tell him that he found his work as Chairman of his Council stressful. Mr Gunner's treating general practitioner, Dr Karmananda Saraswati of the Urapuntja Health Service, wrote a referral for Mr Gunner on 12 August 1998, only three months after Dr Waters and Dr Phillip's interviewed him, saying of Mr Gunner "[h]e is under significant psychological stress at times associated with his work as chairman of Urapuntja Council". That issue of stress was not made known to either Dr Waters or Dr Phillips at the time when they interviewed Mr Gunner. Mr Gunner told Dr Phillips that his position as Chairman was "demanding" but Dr Phillips did not observe any "psychological stress". Dr Phillips said that there was no reason "why this report is not consistent with my observations" but he did allow, in his cross examination, for the hypothesis that what he observed of Mr Gunner could have been wholly explained from the stress that he suffered as Chairman of the council. 1461 Dr Phillips based his assessment of Mr Gunner on the premise that he was forcibly placed in St Mary's. He regarded that as a serious matter. I believe that this was a correct base upon which to make his assessment, accepting as I do, Mr Gunner's evidence that he was removed against his will. Acceptance of that version of the events means that the question of Topsy's consent was not a determining factor in the absence of evidence that Peter knew of his mother's attitude to his removal. Dr Phillips agreed in cross-examination that if Mr Gunner had been told – and if he believed – that his mother had tried to kill him, it would be an adverse event that would more probably than not, have had an impact. He agreed that Mr Gunner had not mentioned this factor to him. 1462 Dr Phillips said in cross-examination that Mr Gunner had told him that he had felt "a sense of alienation" in the Aboriginal community at Utopia. That was contrary to the evidence of acceptance that he gave to the Court. Dr Phillips in making his assessment of Mr Gunner said that this feeling of alienation was considered by him to be "one of many causes of his depression". The relevant passage from Mr Gunner's evidence was then read to Dr Phillips who agreed that the evidence of acceptance was inconsistent with Mr Gunner's information about rejection. 1463 Both Dr Waters and Dr Phillips spoke of the limitations imposed on the amount of information that they could obtain by virtue of Mr Gunner's closed demeanour, his slow manner of delivery and the open-ended style of interview that was adopted. They also both acknowledged the frailty of human memory, particularly stretching back over many, many years. A relatively trivial, but nevertheless telling, example of this was provided by Dr Phillips who spoke of an exchange he had with Mr Gunner in which Mr Gunner had told him that he had not been to Sydney before. That, of course, was not correct, Mr Gunner had been to Sydney as a child when he visited with a group of children from St Mary's Hostel. 1464 In several instances, the history that Mr Gunner gave to the psychiatrists was contrary to the account that he gave in evidence. In relation to his treatment at St Mary's Hostel, Mr Gunner failed to tell Dr Phillips of the sexual assault by Mr Constable. He told both psychiatrists about his failure to return home during school holidays, but told neither that, on some occasions, he was taken on trips interstate. In relation to the timing of his return to Utopia, Mr Gunner told neither doctor that he had first returned in 1969. On the contrary, he told Dr Phillips that he first returned in 1990 and he told Dr Waters that he first returned in 1975. In relation to his work history, Mr Gunner failed to tell Dr Phillips about his employment with the Aboriginal Legal Aid Service, leaving the doctor with the impression that he had worked in blue collar labouring jobs until he was elected Chairman of his local Council. A lesser discrepancy, but still a matter of importance, was Mr Gunner's failure to tell Dr Phillips about his ability to speak four Aboriginal dialects, thereby diminishing his abilities in the eyes of Dr Phillips. In relation to his acceptance by the Utopia community since returning to live there in 1991, he failed to mention to Dr Waters that he held the position of council Chairman, saying only that he worked in the "main office at Utopia". He told neither doctor that it was possible to be initiated as an adult. Furthermore, neither doctor had seen the medical records that indicated he was undergoing tests and treatment for management of the stress associated with his work as Chairman. 1465 Dr Brent Waters prepared a report on the development and knowledge of psychiatric principles in the 1950s and 1960s. The report was directed to the separation of children from their families and the raising of such children in institutions. Among the more important observations that were made by Dr Waters, were the following: · the adverse psychological impact of anonymous institutionalisation was known in the 1930s; · this had already led to the closure of some large orphanages; · as an alternative to closure, a lower resident to staff ratio with more professional staff was needed; · larger institutions should be broken down to small cottages with a house parent; and · foster family care was regarded as preferable. 1466 In his report dated 12 January 1999, exhibit A51, Dr Waters quoted from Jones, "Environmental influences on mental development" in Manual of Child Psychology: "… numerous writings including clinical studies, emphasise the importance of affection in a child's normal development and (the) role played by parental affection or rejection on behaviour disorder. Evidence of parental affection (is) valuable not only for the anchorage in security which they afford, but also as an aid towards the development of the child's own affections for others and the learning of means whereby affection maybe effectively expressed." 1467 Shortly after the end of the Second World War, the World Health Organisation commissioned a report from Dr John Bowlby, who Dr Waters described as a prominent British child psychiatrist. The ensuing report was, according to Dr Waters, widely accepted. One writer's critique was quoted by Dr Waters: "Bowlby's book proved beyond argument that the most important thing in life is the love that grows in a warm, united family – first, a close emotional bond with the mother and later in life, the affectionate and firm guidance of the father. If children are deprived of their natural parents they may find happiness with permanent parent-substitutes, but, says Bowlby, the personal care of even the best of institutions cannot compensate for the loss of family life." According to Dr Waters the views in the Bowlby report were known in Australia. 1468 Dr Waters said that in 1942 the Australian Council for Education Research (ACER) commissioned a report on the likely effects on children if they were billeted away from their families as a war time precaution. Dr Waters, in his report, quoted a relevant section from the ACER Report: "The best substitute for the child's own home is a foster home, even if it is not an ideal one. This is merely an extension of a general attitude illustrated in peace time by the claim that a delinquent child should be removed to an institution only as a last resort; poor surrounds, poor furniture, poor food are to a large extent outweighed by the psychological security of a home in which the child is loved … Thus if camps are to be satisfactory from the viewpoint of mental health, they must avoid institutionalising the child, but must operate with small units similar to a family constellation. Camps should be co-educational." 1469 Dr Phillips knew of the relevance and importance of the ACER Report; he said in evidence in chief: "Well, circa 1942, war years, and at the end of the war years the ACER document, as it's commonly known, was the benchmark really of the way children removed from their parents should be treated. It's a document that was prepared on behalf of the Commonwealth of Australia. Whilst looking at the British experience, it's entirely relevant anywhere in the world and it set a standard or a benchmark which was I believe important. It was an up-to-date document. It was well researched. It's a sensitive document and a very useful document." 1470 Dr Waters said that by the 1940s, and certainly by the 1950s, it was well known that, in some cases, the removal of children from their parents could be anticipated to have immediate and long term adverse psychological consequences and that institutional life, in general, lacked the close parenting bonds that were essential for a healthy emotional development. That evidence was not challenged by the Commonwealth; it was not mentioned in its submissions. Furthermore, no evidence was directed by the Commonwealth towards rebutting the 1942 ACER Report – a report that had been commissioned by the Commonwealth. This omission is not fatal to the Commonwealth's submissions; but it is a matter which calls for some comment. Current social standards strongly favour home care or, at least, cottage-style living, in preference to orphanages and institutions. But the attainment of those standards cannot always be achieved. Much would depend on the circumstances of the day – some tragedy may occur – adequate funds may not be available – there may be insufficient carers. These, and other relevant factors, would have to be considered before a party could be held legally responsible for such adverse consequences as might flow from the institutionalisation of a child in the 1940s and the 1950s. The most that can be said is that in that period it was well known to the Commonwealth that institutional care was not the preferred option. However, I could not go further and hold that there were other preferred options available for the care of those part Aboriginal children who were living separate and apart from their families. 1471 During the course of Dr Waters' evidence in chief, counsel for the applicants asked him to comment on the following passage appearing in pp 22-23 of the ACER Report: "After considering the unfortunate experiences of private billeting, camps appear to solve many difficulties. In addition, the orderliness and economy of effort and centralised discipline appeal to certain types of administrators. On the other hand, the clinical and child psychologist or psychiatrist, the social worker, in general all those who have studied the factors which contribute to a happy childhood and a well adjusted mature personality, support private billeting in general as against camps. Where children are at present well adjusted to their school group, it is probably preferable to maintain this in a well organized camp school. The position is that the majority of failures in billeting were due to lack of insight, and could be overcome. The best substitute for the child's own home is a foster home, even if it is not an ideal one. This is merely an extension of a general attitude illustrated in peace time by the claim that a delinquent child should be removed to an institution only in the last resort; that poor surroundings, poor furniture, poor food, are to a large extent outweighed by the psychological security of a home in which the child is loved." Dr Waters gave a lengthy reply but the gist of his answer was that in 1942, knowledge, as represented by the quoted passage, had left the academic field and entered the "mainstream training of psychiatrists, psychologists, clinical and social workers …" At a later stage of his evidence, when referring to another passage in the ACER Report, Dr Waters said that: "Extensive research since then has not overturned those fundamental conclusions, which were clearly accepted and known in Australia at that particular point in time." 1472 On the other hand, when pressed in cross-examination, he conceded that boarding schools would continue and the Report was no mandate for their closure. Dr Waters made the point, however, that he did not think it appropriate to compare Mr Gunner's entry to St Mary's to a child being sent to boarding school. As he said, in Mr Gunner's case, there was no preparation or explanation, he could not speak the language and it was a foreign culture. He concluded, and I agree, that it is not a valid comparison. It was Dr Waters' opinion that Mr Gunner needs treatment to help him "with an array of self-defeating thoughts that he has". He said that there was a form of counselling called cognitive behavioural therapy which involves identifying self-defeating thoughts so that the counsellor can help the patient challenge them and overcome them; he recommended that treatment for Mr Gunner suggesting that it would take up to thirty counselling sessions. In addition, Dr Waters said that there would be occasions when it could be appropriate to place Mr Gunner on anti-depressant medication. Dr Waters allowed for the need for further sessions – sessions that he called "top up" because, as I understood his answer Mr Gunner, because of his shyness and reticence, might be in need of more care than most people. 1473 Asked in cross-examination to identify what it was about Mr Gunner that "told you he was then depressed", Dr Waters replied: "I think two things - two predominant things - he looked sad and from a psychiatric point of view that's an important observation; he has a very slow manner of delivery. I think part of that is temperamental and him thinking about what he wants to say before he says it. He's quite cautious, I think. But it seemed to me that there was possibly a depressive element to that. He constantly kept coming back to what he lost in a sense of - well, a sense of loss. Everything he talked about, he talked about in negative terms. It was difficult to find a positive - anything that he talked about positively, with the possible exception of his relationship to Eunice and the child - the 15-year-old or 16-year-old - that he's got at the moment. I think that they're probably the stand-out exceptions to his global sort of pessimism." I regard Dr Waters' answer as most important for its non-medical aspects coincide with Mr Gunner's consistent presentation throughout his long stay in the witness box. Dr Waters continued: "No, he didn't tell me he had a pessimistic view of life. He spoke in a pessimistic way about life and he was on the verge of tears on several occasions as well. So I would say that it wasn't that he reported depression but that my observations of him were consistent with depression." That also tallied with my observations of Mr Gunner; he did speak pessimistically when giving his evidence and there was, at least, one occasion that I can recall when he broke down and wept when giving his evidence. To Dr Waters, Mr Gunner presented as "a defeated man"; he could not remember seeing a man who seemed "so beaten as Peter Gunner". I accept this passage in Dr Water's evidence; it tallied with my own impressions of Mr Gunner. 1474 Mr Gunner told Dr Waters that he was not "regarded well" by the people at Utopia; he made passing reference to the Council but did not say that he was the Chairman. Dr Waters had an entry in his notes that Mr Gunner told him: "People say to me, you have no say in the land here. You're a half-breed, a white man. I feel they say it a lot. That really hurts me." The interesting aspect of this comment was, as Dr Waters agreed, that Mr Gunner was saying that members of the Aboriginal community were rejecting him partly because he was "a half-breed", not merely because he had been absent from his land while he was at St Mary's. Dr Waters accepted, when it was put to him in cross examination, that Mr Gunner's belief in his rejection by the Aboriginal community was what Dr Waters saw as "a cause of a depressed state". The doctor explained that he considered that there were two bases put forward for that rejection: one was the colour of Mr Gunner's skin and the other was the fact that he was taken out of the tribe before he was initiated. 1475 Dr Waters, who did not consider that Mr Gunner was retarded, said that the fact that Mr Gunner was able to work for about ten years in legal aid pointed to him not having a disabling level of depression at that time. He remained convinced, however, that Mr Gunner was suffering from a dysthymic disorder, which although not the same as a depressive personality, was nevertheless a psychiatric disorder warranting treatment. He said that the question of treatment was difficult. "Some people make quite reasonable responses to anti-depressant medications, some people respond best to counselling, some people don't seem to respond to anything." 1476 In his report Dr Waters expressed the view that he thought that Mr Gunner had suffered a separation anxiety disorder during his first year or so at St Mary's. However, when that subject was raised in cross-examination, he volunteered that "probably he doesn't meet all of the criteria for separation anxiety disorder". 1477 Dr Waters said that Mr Gunner had symptoms of post-traumatic stress syndrome sufficient to describe him as suffering a post-traumatic syndrome. When asked to explain his answer he said: "Well, he mainly reports vivid, very distressing intrusive images of some of the beatings and the incident with Constable, and when that happens it's associated with particularly pronounced sleep problems and with a lot of stomach upset." In re-examination, counsel for Mr Gunner asked Dr Waters to express an opinion on Mr Gunner's bona fides: "Dr Waters, it was put to you that at the time of your consultation with Mr Gunner you knew he was after the money and it was put to you that he was spinning a tale and that some things are capable of just tripping off the tongue that may be of assistance in a psychiatric examination? --- Yes. Is that how you found Mr Gunner? --- No. No, he impressed as somebody who thought very carefully about what he said, weighed his words carefully, who saw himself as an honest person and tried to be as honest as he could with me. I mean, obviously one can't always pick malingerers but he had none of the usual stigmata of a malingerer; quite the opposite." I accept Dr Waters' opinion of Mr Gunner; it coincided with the opinion that I formed of him. 1478 There is however, one area in the evidence of Dr Waters and Dr Phillips that I cannot accept. It concerned Mr Gunner's acknowledgment that he had been told, when a young man, by Florrie Ware that his mother had tried to kill him when he was a baby. I am prepared to accept that Topsy rejected him at birth and for some time thereafter but, I also accept that that position changed. I accept that when he left Utopia, Peter enjoyed the conventional maternal love and affection that a child has from his or her mother. When asked his opinion about the effect on Mr Gunner when Florrie Ware told him her news, Dr Phillips said: "Well, clearly a child will take communication in a concrete manner, rather than a more objective, abstract measured manner which adults tend to do. So if he was told as a small child that, 'Your mother tried to kill you', that is a very major shock and he would have trouble accommodating to that. If he is told much later in adult life that his mother attempted to kill him, he is unlikely to place as much weight or to be affected as adversely by the communication." Even though the thrust of that evidence was supported by Dr Waters, I cannot accept the dismissive way in which it was suggested a young man would react to such horrendous news. Whilst I respect their professional opinions, I believe that any human being is entitled to express a view on such a fundamental and personal issue. Perhaps some adults might be able to rationalise and accept the hurt with less emotion than a young child, but I cannot accept a sweeping statement that "he is unlikely to place as much weight or to be affected as adversely by the communication". In coming to this conclusion I do so on the premise that neither doctor advanced that statement as a medical fact in respect of, nor did they present it as a specific opinion of, how Mr Gunner reacted. They presented it as a general statement of unspecified application. Mr Gunner's evidence on the subject was that he believed it to be true when his cousin told him about the ants' nest. The fact that an expert witness has impressive scientific qualifications does not, by that fact alone, make his or her opinions on matters of human nature and behaviour within the limits of normality any more helpful than that of the jurors themselves; but there is a danger that they may think it does: R v Turner (1974) 60 Crim App R 80 at 83 per Lawton LJ. 1479 Dr Bell allowed for the fact that Mr Gunner's separation from his family at Utopia and his admission to St Mary's at an early age may have had disadvantages for him in terms of his retention of his Aboriginal language and culture. He added, however, that they have equally brought him advantages such as an education that enabled him to act as an intermediary for his people. I am puzzled by this passage in his evidence. If it was intended to address the question of quantification of losses (and that was hardly likely) it was outside his expertise; if it was intended to address a psychiatric condition, it is not clear, whether Dr Bell was advancing a theory that the existence of factors that would be sufficient to cause a psychiatric reaction to a child might be nullified by unknown advantages that will only occur to the child in his adult life. I cannot accept such a proposition. When cross-examined on this subject Dr Bell said: "Well, with the information I have now my words have more significance than I realised at the time, but if I restrict myself to start off with what I meant at the time, that's what I was talking about in terms of what Mr Gunner gained out of his education and being raised in a European environment. He, in contrast to the people left in the desert, is able to go back to be the chairperson and their representative and so on. Now that I know what he did know and did not tell me about the rejection by his mother, then it gained for him great advantage." He went on to explain: "I see the situation as one of being the one type of pain and discomfort in life being substituted for another type of pain and discomfort. Most of us live a life in which we have one balanced against another." These answers overlooked, in my opinion, that the trauma occurred during childhood at which point of time the victim had no knowledge of the likely benefits that might subsequently come his way. 1480 Before he gave his evidence, Dr Bell read the transcript of Mr Gunner's evidence. He said that it revealed that there were significant matters that Mr Gunner had not disclosed to him. The material passage in his evidence was: "I expect that the most critical would be the description he gave me and the impression he gave me, and I think others, if I can gather from the reports I've read, that he was not received well when he returned to Utopia. I did know, unlike some other experts who assessed him, that he was the chairperson of the council, but even so it seemed to me that his responses to questions changed the view that he'd given me that he was not really tolerated well and had some kind of inimical or hostile atmosphere to him so that he did not feel accepted. That rather changes the opinion about depression. It confirms me in my impression that he does not and did not have a depressive illness. Did he tell you that he had gone back to Utopia in 1968 and thereafter had known where his family were? --- No, he did not. That was part of a lot of information which was not just new to me but contrary to the impression that he had created in my mind, and well, it connects with other information that did not reveal to me about the attitude of his mother towards him and the attitude which he may have had towards his mother. He had known where - it seems that he knew where his family was and who they were from about 1969, that he did not make the contacts one would expect of somebody who wanted to be restored to - restore his relationship with his mother. It makes sense in terms of him knowing at some stage that his mother had rejected him fairly early in life." 1481 These are justifiable criticisms of Mr Gunner. With respect to the opinion of Dr Bell however, they do not offer a fresh dimension to Mr Gunner's evidence. I have already addressed at length his many contradictions and confusions; what Dr Bell has had to say merely supports the conclusion at which I have arrived, viz: Mr Gunner is a very poor witness. That, however, is not a ground for arbitrarily ignoring all his evidence. The task of the Court, if it is possible, is to sift through the contradictions and the confusion to see whether a hard core of fact can be established. I believe that I have been able to perform that exercise adequately. Conscious of all of Mr Gunner's shortcomings I accept the conclusions of Drs Waters and Phillips notwithstanding Dr Bell's contrary opinion. 1482 Those omissions and contradictions, coupled with Mr Gunner's failure to tell Dr Phillips about Mr Constable's sexual assault on him would, more often than not, cause a judge to have grave misgivings about a psychiatric opinion, based as it was only on the patient's history and the doctor's observations. But Mr Gunner is an exceptional case. There were occasions when he was wrong – even to the point of being stubbornly wrong, but despite that, my overall impression was that he was basically a truthful person. His greatest weakness was a readiness to answer by saying what he thought might have been the truth of the matter. 1483 As with Mrs Cubillo, I note and I accept the existence of these discrepancies in Mr Gunner's evidence and the information that he gave to the psychiatrists. I have not overlooked them in coming to my opinion that I accept the main thrust of his evidence – his feelings of fear and hurt following on from his removal and detention, his evidence about Mr Constable and his present feelings about his childhood days. Both Drs Waters and Phillips were of the view that the adverse treatment that Mr Gunner described to them as having been meted out at St Mary's Hostel would have reinforced the anxiety and depression that he was already experiencing by reason of his separation from his family and culture. I have accepted in principle – if not in all detail – Mr Gunner's evidence regarding his treatment at the Hostel and, in particular, the general outline of his account of the sexual assault to which he was subjected. I now accept the diagnoses of his interviewing psychiatrists. The errors and omissions in his narration of his history to them were not sufficient to shake their opinions and their conclusions. 1484 Despite Dr Bell's contrary views, I found myself convinced by the contents of the reports and the oral evidence of Drs Waters and Phillips. Dr Waters was of the opinion that Mr Gunner's removal and detention were the catalyst for his condition: "They start to blame themselves. They think 'well, you know, I can't fathom how this happened to me. It must have been something I did. What can I do to redress the situation?' Nothing he could do about it and he just goes into a spiral of sort of hopeless depressive sort of thinking." In Dr Waters' opinion that led to a depressive disorder which has lasted throughout his life; it has been accompanied with some major depressive symptoms, including suicide attempts. Dr Waters said that the taking and the institutionalisation were the initiating steps of Mr Gunner's depression. 1485 Dr Phillips was of the same opinion – that Mr Gunner's injury was connected to his removal and detention: "I have little doubt that Mr Gunner would have first experienced depressive symptoms at or almost immediately after his removal from the Utopia community when he was approximately seven years old. Using the word 'depressive symptoms' the core issue here is dysthymic disorder, which is chronic, lower grade but a very pervasive depressive syndrome which has continued, in my view, more or less continuously since that time … aggravated by a number of other matters along the way." Damages 1486 Even though I have come to the conclusion that Mrs Cubillo's action must be dismissed, I do not think that my work is done. In the event that there is an appeal and an Appeal Court, contrary to my views, believes that Mrs Cubillo has a sustainable cause of action, it will be necessary to engage in the exercise of an assessment of damages. That same exercise must be carried out for Mr Gunner. In his case I have found, as a fact, that he was removed from Utopia Station and detained in St Mary's Hostel at the request of and with the knowledge of his mother. The Native Affairs Branch played a part in that removal but not by way of exercising any statutory power. It engaged in conduct of persuasion and its officer, Mr Kitching was probably the person who actually removed Peter. Nevertheless, as with the case of Mrs Cubillo, the matter might go on appeal and an Appeal Court might disagree with my conclusions. I will therefore proceed to address the question of Mr Gunner's damages. 1487 In addressing the assessment of damages, I do so only upon the premise that an appellate court overturns a finding of law. I do not, therefore, allow for the possibility that there may subsequently be a finding of fact that the applicants' removals and detentions were implemented pursuant to a policy such as that described by the applicants in their pleadings. I will also consider the question of exemplary damages but I reject out of hand any suggestion that the Commonwealth or the Directors acted with a "contumelious disregard" for the interests of the applicants. Even if, contrary to my findings, the conduct of the Directors fell outside the parameters of the legislation, I would not be prepared to consider any assessment of damages upon the basis that they acted with mala fides or with a knowledge that they were not acting within the parameters of s 6: nor would I be prepared to assess upon the premise that the Directors acted with reckless indifference. There was no evidence whatsoever in either case that remotely suggested mala fides or recklessness on the part of either Director at any time. 1488 Both applicants have claimed that they have suffered as a result of the alleged unlawful conduct of the Commonwealth. In advancing their claims, they have laid great emphasis on their loss of their Aboriginality – that is, their loss of their Aboriginal language, culture and way of life. I have accepted that each applicant sustained and continues to suffer a psychiatric injury as a consequence of their removals and detentions in the institutions. On the basis that fault is found to lie at the feet of the Commonwealth, the applicants would thereby be entitled to an award of general damages for their pain and suffering and for their loss of enjoyment of life – past, present and future. 1489 The Commonwealth denied that the applicants were entitled to any damages; consequently it did not address on quantum. Rather it asked to be given the opportunity to address the Court on the question of quantification if that should prove necessary. Counsel claimed that there were so many permutations and possible computations that it would not be practicable to approach the question of damages until all findings on liability were known. Whilst I appreciate that the complexities in this case make the task of an assessment difficult, it is a difficulty that is encountered in many cases. When the chance of a matter going on appeal is present, it is most desirable that the appellate court be given the opportunity to address all issues that remain in dispute between the parties. If it is possible to avoid the matter being sent back to the trial judge for any reason, substantial time and costs are saved and the parties to the litigation have a more expeditious and less costly disposal of all outstanding matters. 1490 I believe that I made those views clear to counsel during the course of final submissions. I intend therefore to proceed with my assessment of the amounts that might be the appropriate awards of damages in the event my findings on liability are the subject of an appeal. 1491 The Commonwealth, if liable to either applicant in damages, will only be liable for damage "of such a kind as the reasonable man should have foreseen": March v Stramare (E & H) Pty Ltd [1990-1991] 171 CLR 506 at 531 per McHugh J quoting from Overseas Tankship (UK) Ltd v Morts Dock and Engineering Co Ltd (The Wagon Mound) [1961] AC 388 at 426. Consequently, the establishment of a factual cause of an injury does not alone establish liability. And although the precise damage need not have been foreseen, it is necessary to establish that damage of the kind which occurred could have been foreseen in a general way. No liability can attach for risks which can properly be described as remote. As Windeyer J explained in Mount Isa Mines Ltd v Pusey (1970) 125 CLR 383 at 399-400: "The word 'remote' has long had a place in the vocabulary of our law. It has commonly been used in relation to cause and consequence: a remote cause has been distinguished from the proximate cause: a consequence may be too remote to sound in damages. Sometimes too the phrase 'remote risk' has meant an event which can be seen as a possibility, but one so unlikely to occur, or of such slight gravity of consequence if it should occur, that a prudent man might justifiably disregard it." 1492 The Commonwealth submitted that no award of damages ought to be made in favour of either applicant. It submitted that the applicants had failed to prove that they are suffering from mental injury or, alternatively, if they are, they had failed to prove that it was caused by some breach of duty. I have rejected that submission based on my willingness to accept the evidence of the applicants' interviewing psychiatrists. On the other hand, I agree with the Commonwealth that the claim for equitable damages is a claim for an alleged breach of fiduciary duty and that such damages could amount to no more than a claim for damages for a breach of the equitable duty to exercise reasonable care; such a claim would be assessed in accordance with ordinary common law principles. In considering the question of damages, I do not think therefore, that it is necessary to give individual consideration to the separate causes of action. 1493 In my opinion the acceptance of the evidence of Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner about their personal reactions to their removal and detentions, in combination with the acceptance of the medical evidence of their interviewing doctors, has created the causative link that is necessary to justify an award of damages against a tortfeasor. On the issue of causation, I accept the Commonwealth's submissions on the law, although I have reached a different conclusion on its application to the facts of this case. 1494 Causation is a practical question for the Court to determine by applying common sense to the facts of the particular case. Causation is not, therefore, determined according to philosophical or scientific theories of causation. The reason for this distinction was pointed out by Mason CJ in March v Stramare at 509: "In philosophy and science, the concept of causation has been developed in the context of explaining phenomena by reference to the relationship between conditions and occurrences. In law, on the other hand, problems of causation arise in the context of ascertaining or apportioning legal responsibility for a given occurrence." Thus in March v Stramare, the Court rejected the "but for" test as the exclusive test of factual causation, while acknowledging that, when applied as a negative criterion of causation, it still has an important role to play. Rather, the Court preferred the approach expressed in its decision in Fitzgerald v Penn (1954) 91 CLR 268 at 276: "Whether a particular act or omission … can fairly and properly be considered a cause of the accident." As causation is a question of fact to be determined as a matter of common sense, it is sometimes said that the conclusion is reached "intuitively". Nonetheless, as Kirby J warned in Chappel v Hart (1998) 195 CLR 232 at 269: "Yet, a losing party has a right to know why it has lost and should not have its objections brushed aside with a reference to 'commonsense', at best an uncertain guide involving 'subjective, unexpressed and undefined extra-legal values'varying from one decision-maker to another. Nevertheless, despite its obvious defects, the commonsense test has been embraced by this Court as a reminder that a'robust and pragmatic approach' to such questions is the one most congenial to the common law." (footnotes omitted) 1495 In general, "a sufficient causal connection is established if it appears that the plaintiff would not have sustained the injuries complained of had the defendant not been negligent": Chappel v Hart at 255 per Gummow J. However, as Gummow J went on to explain in that case causation is affected nonetheless by policy considerations and value judgments: "… the 'but for' test is not a comprehensive and exclusive criterion, and the results which are yielded by its application properly may be tempered by the making of value judgments and the infusion of policy considerations. So, it may be 'unjust' to hold a defendant legally responsible for an injury which, though it may be traced back to the wrongful conduct of the defendant, was the immediate result of unreasonable action on the part of the plaintiff." (255-256) 1496 Where, as here, damages are claimed for personal injury, causation is proved by showing that the injury would not otherwise have been suffered by the plaintiff. As Kirby J explained in Romeo v Conservation Commission of the Northern Territory (1998) 192 CLR 431 at 482: "Where a breach of a relevant duty of care is shown it is still necessary for a plaintiff to prove, on the balance of probabilities, that such breach caused or materially contributed to the damage. This means that the plaintiff must show that, if the defendant had fulfilled its duty, as defined, doing so would have resulted in the avoidance of the plaintiff's damage and loss. Necessarily, the question is hypothetical." That does not mean however, that the applicants do not have to prove that loss or damage was caused by the breach of duty on the balance of probabilities. In the ordinary case, proof that the injury by the breach of duty was foreseeable coupled with proof that that foreseeable injury was "closely followed by damage" can suffice, at least, to shift the evidential or practical onus (as opposed to the legal onus) to the defendant. Nonetheless, even in such cases, the legal burden of proving causation is, and remains, throughout the proceedings upon the plaintiff. 1497 Consistently with this, Balkin and Davis in Law of Torts, 2nd Ed, Sydney, Butterworths, 1996 stated at 301 that: "The testimony must establish a legal inference and not mere conjecture that the act complained of contributed to the result, since a conjecture, however, plausible, is of no legal value, its essence being only a guess. In deciding this, it may be relevant to take into account both common experience and expert evidence. The latter is not necessarily decisive. Where two or more hypotheses exist for the cause of an injury the evidence adduced by the plaintiff must do more than give rise to conflicting inferences of equal degrees, for if it does only this the choice between them will rest on mere conjecture. This is not to say, however, that the evidence need establish as a certainty which hypothesis has caused the damage, but it must at least be reasonable to find a balance of probabilities in favour of that hypothesis." (footnotes omitted) 1498 The Commonwealth complained that it would be contrary to common sense to assume a connection between the breach and the injury where a substantial period of time has elapsed between the act or omission which is said to have caused the harm, on the one hand, and discovery of the harm and commencement of proceedings on the other hand, and where other events which might have caused the condition have occurred before or after the breach. That submission cannot however stand against my acceptance of the evidence of the applicants and their interviewing doctors. 1499 I do not think that it could be argued that the cultural loss that a part Aboriginal person has suffered does not sound in damages. Napaluma v Baker (1982) 29 SASR 192, Dixon v Davies (1982) 17 NTR 31 and Weston v Woodroffe (1985) 36 NTR 34 were all cases where the plaintiff, an Aboriginal person was injured in a road accident. In each case, the nature of the injuries detrimentally affected the plaintiffs' Aboriginal culture or was otherwise related to it and the assessment of damages reflected that fact. In Napaluma v Baker,Zelling J said that the plaintiff would not "be advanced to further degrees of Aboriginal lore for two reasons, firstly, he may not keep secret what is entrusted to him, and secondly, he has not the ability to pass on accurately the secrets to others": at 194. O'Leary J in Dixon v Davies said that the plaintiff's pain and suffering had to include the plaintiff's "loss of standing within his own Aboriginal community and his lowered expectation of ever being able to enjoy full tribal rights": at 34. Weston v Woodroffe was somewhat different because what Muirhead ACJ had to consider was the effect on the plaintiff of a threat that was made by the defendant, a fellow Aborigine. The learned trial judge held that, within the context of the party's Aboriginality, the threat that was made by the defendant was a material matter to be taken into account when considering the conduct of the plaintiff. Milpurrurru v Indofurn Pty Ltd (1994) 54 FCR 240 was another case involving issues that affected persons adversely because of their Aboriginality. It arose however, in an entirely different context. The applicants were Aboriginal artists; the respondents had imported into Australia carpets that had reproduced Aboriginal artworks, the copyright in which was owned by the Aboriginal artists. In discussing an assessment of the applicants' damages, von Doussa J referred to the above three cases in support of a proposition that he set out in the following terms at 277: "In the present case the infringements have caused personal distress and, potentially at least, have exposed the artists to embarrassment and contempt within their communities, if not to the risk of diminished earning potential and physical harm. The losses arising from these risks are a reflection of the cultural environment in which the artists reside and conduct their daily affairs. Losses resulting from tortious wrongdoing experienced by Aboriginals in their particular environments are properly to be brought to account." I start with a consideration of the claims that both applicants have made about their loss of their Aboriginal culture. For that purpose, I refer to the evidence of Mr DH Avery. Mr Avery completed a Bachelor of Arts and Bachelor of Laws in New Zealand in 1970. Since 1986 he has held the position of manager of Legal Services with the Central Land Council at Alice Springs. He is the senior lawyer supervising a team of four other lawyers. He and his team tender legal advice to the Central Land Council on the conduct of its affairs and functions under the Land Rights Act. They give legal assistance to persons wishing to make land claims and they also act for Aboriginal people in respect of other matters if they request assistance. Those activities extend to such matters as negotiating mineral exploration agreements, the preparation of mining agreements and leases and the presentation of land claims to the Land Commissioner. The work of the Land Council calls upon Mr Avery to consult with the traditional owners of a given area of land which may be the subject of a third party interest such as a request for mineral exploration. 1500 Mr Avery said that the Central Land Council assisted Aboriginal people in making traditional land claims by first having anthropologists interview people to determine who has an interest in the land that is the subject of the claim. From those inquiries, a book is prepared; it is known as the Anthropologist's Report and it documents details of those who are said to be traditional owners or to hold traditional interests in a particular area of land. It also addresses dreamings, sacred sites, the way the people say that their group is composed and all matters relating to rights in land in accordance with their principles of descent. That Report is the primary document that is presented to the Aboriginal Land Rights Commissioner at the commencement of the hearing of a land claim. 1501 In the conduct of its functions, the Land Council is required under subs 23(3) of the Land Rights Act to consult the traditional Aboriginal owners in respect of any third party proposals. When the Council is required to so consult in respect of land that has been the subject of a report from the Aboriginal Land Commissioner, the primary document for determining who are the traditional owners to be consulted within the area is the Commissioner's report. It lists those persons who have been found by the Commissioner to be the traditional owners. However, as Mr Avery pointed out, some of those reports are now twenty years old and there have been numerous social developments in that time. People have died and others have been born. Although the Central Land Council does not maintain a register of traditional owners in respect of any Land Claim area, there will still arise, from time to time, occasions when it is necessary to identify the traditional owners for the time being. On any such occasion, the anthropologists will use the Commissioner's report as a base document, interviewing people who are named in that document, updating it with new material, guided by what the people tell them about who should be added to or deleted from the list. When the time comes to consult the traditional owners, officers of the Central Land Council notify the people on its updated list of a proposed meeting; they ensure that a record is made of the matters discussed at the meeting and of any decision that is made by the meeting. On the basis of that information, a report is prepared for the Central Land Council which is the plenary body. 1502 In par 45 of her further amended statement of claim, Mrs Cubillo has alleged that she has "lost the entitlements and other advantages associated with being recognised as a traditional owner of her traditional lands for the purposes of the Land Rights Act". She has alleged that she is not recognised as a traditional owner of the lands held by: · the Karlantijpa North Aboriginal Land Trust; · the Karlantijpa South Aboriginal Land Trust; · the Warumungu Aboriginal Land Trust; · the Kanttaji Aboriginal Land Trust; and · the lands recommended for grant in the Warlmanpa (Muckaty Pastoral Lease) Land Claim Report. It is her case that had she not been removed and detained at the Retta Dixon Home at the instigation of the Commonwealth, she would have been recognised as a traditional owner of one or more or all of those lands. 1503 Mr Gunner has made similar claims; in his case he has alleged that he is not recognised as a traditional owner of the lands held by: · the Angarapa Aboriginal Land Trust; and · the Alyawarra/Kaytetye Aboriginal Land Trust. Like Mrs Cubillo, he has alleged that had he not been removed and detained at St Mary's Hostel at the instigation of the Commonwealth, he would have been recognised as a traditional owner of one or other or both of those lands. 1504 The four Land Trusts that were identified in Mrs Cubillo's further amended statement of claim were put, in turn, to Mr Avery and from his knowledge of the Central Land Council's records he was able to state that Mrs Cubillo was not listed as a traditional owner in any of the Land Commissioners' reports. There have been consultations conducted in relation to the land that is held by those Land Trusts in recent years and it was accepted by the Commonwealth that Mrs Cubillo had not been invited to participate in any of those consultations; she has not attended any meetings and she has not been identified by the Central Land Council as a person to be consulted either in respect of any of the four Land Trusts or in respect of the Warlmanpa (Muckaty Pastoral Lease) Land Claim. 1505 Mr Avery then turned to the two Land Trusts that were identified in Mr Gunner's further amended statement of claim. He said that he could not find any record of Mr Gunner having been recorded as a traditional owner. In 1989, there had been a consultation for an exploration permit for oil and gas that covered both Land Trusts: Mr Gunner was not listed. In 1996 there had been a consultation with respect to the Alyawarra/Kaytetye Land Trust: Mr Gunner was not consulted. However, in 1997, there was a consultation covering an area of the Angarapa Aboriginal Land Trust and, in respect of that consultation, Mr Gunner was listed as a party to be consulted on the basis that it was his mother's mother's country. Mr Avery also added that Mr Gunner had been registered as a claimant in the Alcoota Land Claim. He said he was "listed on the genealogies or as a claimant in respect of Attarkert country which just comes into the north-east corner of the land claim". It is, in my opinion, of substantial significance that the records of the Central Land Council have revealed that Mr Gunner was listed as a party to be consulted in 1997 and had been listed as a claimant in respect of the Attarkert country. The importance of this information lies in the fact that it shows that Mr Gunner has obtained a place of recognition by the tribal elders who are involved in those Land Claims. 1506 It is well known and accepted that Aboriginal people have an immensely strong attachment to their land. The unique relationship between Aboriginal people and their land was described by Professor Stanner, in a passage cited by Brennan J in R v Toohey; Ex parte Meneling Station Pty Ltd (1982) 158 CLR 327 at 356-7: "No English words are good enough to give a sense of the links between an Aboriginal group and its homeland. Our word 'home', warm and suggestive though it be, does not match the Aboriginal word that may mean 'camp', 'hearth', 'country', 'everlasting home', 'totem place', 'life source', 'spirit centre' and much else all in one. Our word 'land' is too spare and meagre. We can now scarcely use it except with economic overtones unless we happen to be poets. The Aboriginal would speak of 'earth' and used the word in a richly symbolic way to mean his 'shoulder' or his 'side'. I have seen an Aboriginal embrace the earth he walked on. To put our words 'home' and 'land' together into 'homeland' is a little better but not much. A different tradition leaves us tongueless and earless towards this other world of meaning and significance. When we took what we call 'land' we took what to them meant hearth, home, the source and locus of life, and everlastingness of spirit. At the same time it left each local band bereft of an essential constant that made their plan and code of living intelligible. Particular pieces of territory, each a homeland, formed part of a set of constants without which no affiliation of any person to any other person, no link in the whole network of relationships, no part of the complex structure of social groups any longer had all its co-ordinates. What I describe as 'homelessness', then, means that the Aborigines faced a kind of vertigo in living. They had no stable base of life, every personal affiliation was lamed; every group structure was put out of kilter; no social network had a point of fixture left." 1507 That description was consistent with the anthropological and other evidence in this case. Dr Morton described how, because of its associations with ancestral beings and particular kin groups, country was never just "land"; it was both a personalised place and an anthropomorphised space. Ms Vaarzon-Morel explained how an Aboriginal person's spiritual and historical attachment to land was fundamental to their social and personal identity. Mrs Kunoth-Monks spoke of the great identification between Aboriginal people and their land, its emotional and spiritual significance and the enormous homesickness and longing suffered on leaving one's country. 1508 This attachment to land was recognised by white Australians in the 1940s and 1950s. Even as a cadet patrol officer in the 1940s, Mr Penhall was aware of the great attachment that Aboriginal people had to their land. He agreed with Bill Harney's observation that "one of the worse punishments you can give an Aboriginal is to shift him from his home territory to another area". Drawing on his practical experience, Mr Penhall said that, in the 1940s and 1950s, "Aboriginal tradition was strictly patrilineal descent". Hence, he was of the view that part Aboriginal children had no rights in Aboriginal society. He said: "And as soon as a European or Asian father was involved that child did not carry any – or under Aboriginal law any Aboriginal entitlements under Aboriginal law were extinguished at birth." However, Mr Penhall conceded that material changes occurred in the 1970s when the existence of matrilineal rights were recognised. 1509 The Commonwealth did not dispute the existence of Aboriginal communities with the characteristics described by the anthropologists, Dr Morton and Ms Vaarzon-Morel; nor did the Commonwealth dispute the genealogies that were compiled by the anthropologists in any specific way. The anthropological evidence about family and community relationships and entitlements to land rights was also not disputed. Rather, the Commonwealth's complaint was that the applicants had failed to call the people to whom the anthropologists spoke, and upon whom they relied for their opinions. 1510 Section 60 of the Evidence Act makes the anthropologists' reports evidence of the facts stated in them. Sections 73 and 74 of the Evidence Act removes the hearsay rule from evidence of reputation concerning family history or family relationship and evidence of reputation concerning the existence, nature and extent of a general or public right. In any event, some of the persons to whom the anthropologists spoke gave evidence in the trial. These witnesses included all of the Tennant Creek witnesses (who were identified by Ms Vaarzon-Morel as some of those to whom she had spoken in producing her report) and Johnny Skinner and Lena Pula (who were identified by Dr Morton as being among his sources). Their evidence was not challenged on the subject of families and family background. 1511 Speaking of Mrs Cubillo's people, the Warumungu, Maurice J said in the Warumungu Land Claim Report No. 31 (1988) at xii: "The view I have formed is that their identities have been shaped by the distinctive Aboriginal society in which they have grown up and live and the traditional culture which has been such a part of their lives. Though their lifestyles may be vastly different from what they would have been had they lived one hundred years ago, the superficial trappings of white civilisation belie the fact that, in my judgement, they remain deeply Aboriginal. Everything about them finally attests to this. The way they talk, the way they think, their mannerisms, the things they talk about, how and where they live, what they eat, how they dress and groom themselves, how they relate to one another and to other Aboriginal folk – the whole atmosphere of their presentation." 1512 In my opinion, both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner have suffered compensable losses through not being regarded by other members of the Aboriginal community as traditional owners of the lands to which reference has been made in these reasons. However, those losses are not total; they are reversible. That has already begun to appear in the case of Mr Gunner. I accept that by being removed from their communities, they were, over a period of time, forgotten as potential traditional owners. That has meant that for some unspecified period neither of them enjoyed the status of recognition and consultation. Neither of them has proved any economic loss; but they have proved an entitlement to compensation as a result of being ignored as potential traditional owners. Any award would, however, be very modest, particularly in the case of Mrs Cubillo. She has made no attempt to change her lifestyle. In Mr Gunner's case he has returned to Utopia and is making serious attempts to return to his former community. Unlike Mrs Cubillo, he has attempted to mitigate his damages. 1513 There was one area of Mrs Cubillo's losses that caused me some difficulty. Ms Vaarzon-Morel explained the relationship of a young girl in Aboriginal society by emphasising the close relationship that exists between a young girl and a female adult. She said in her report: "Although a child is effectively socialised through a range of persons within the child's extended family network, the person who occupies the role of a girl's mother (be it an actual mother, a mother's sister, grandmother or aunt) is expected to take primary responsibility for the girl's welfare. She teaches the girl how to conduct herself in the social arena and teaches her skills and practices from traditional life which remain important to the girl's socialisation as a woman in contemporary Aboriginal society. Such skills include identifying and obtaining food (flora and fauna) and bush medicine from the land and learning the cultural geography of the land … females are inducted into religious life as young children by their mother …" 1514 If, as Mrs Cubillo claimed, Maisie was working at Banka Banka, and if, as was accepted, her grandmother had died sometime before she was removed with the other children, who was the female who, in Ms Vaarzon-Morel's words, occupied the role of the mother? During the course of her evidence in chief Mrs Cubillo was asked to identify the members of her family who were at Phillip Creek. First she referred to her grandmother, who she saw daily until her death. She then referred to her "sister" Eileen; I take that to be the witness Eileen Napanangka. She also mentioned: "… my father Mick's sister, Minnie and Daisy, and someone I called 'mum' was Jimmy Anderson's mother, Ada Phillips." Later, she said that she "had a grandmother there named Minnie Hill". 1515 What I have recounted was the limit of her evidence about her family connections at Phillip Creek. There was not sufficient information, for example, to identify any person as having a specific relationship with the young girl. The impression that I gain was that all of the people that she mentioned were members of a larger group and that they, as distinct from others, were the ones with whom she had the closest association. She did not name any of them as being a particular person to whom she looked for guidance or care or learning about the Aboriginal way of life. Furthermore, it must not be overlooked that, whilst she was living at Phillip Creek, Lorna's association with her adult Aboriginal community was fractured in two different ways. In the first place she was attending school five days a week; in the second place, she was sleeping in a dormitory with other part Aboriginal children. When Lorna's circumstances were compared with Peter's, it became apparent that she had, at the time of her removal from Phillip Creek, received a much greater exposure to European life than he had. They both suffered a culture shock as well as the trauma and pain of the removal and the detention but Peter's culture shock had the potential to be the greater of the two. 1516 Mrs Cubillo's removal from her country and the severance of her ties with her family and community precluded her from developing affiliations with her country. But I do not agree with the submission that was made on her behalf that, as a result, she is not recognised as having any rights under Aboriginal custom and tradition with respect to her traditional lands. That submission could only be correct in the sense that Mrs Cubillo has never asserted her rights. Membership of the group known as "traditional owners" is fluid – mainly because of births and deaths. If Mrs Cubillo has rights as a traditional owner to any land it is up to her to assert them and having asserted them, to establish that they have been rejected and the reasons for the rejection. She has asserted the existence of those rights in these proceedings but she neither proved that she had claimed them nor, having claimed them, that they were rejected. 1517 Ms Vaarzon-Morel expressed the opinion that "it is difficult" for Mrs Cubillo to be a part of Aboriginal family life in the Tennant Creek region "in a way that is meaningful to both Mrs Cubillo and her Aboriginal relations". I appreciate that Mrs Cubillo would face difficulties but that is no reason why she should not make efforts to resume her Aboriginal life if, in fact, that is what she really wants. Mr Gunner wanted to return to his Aboriginal home and proved that he was genuine by his actions. Mrs Cubillo has not proved to my satisfaction that she does wish to return to an Aboriginal lifestyle. That lifestyle was taken from her against her will; that sounds in damages. She was kept away from that lifestyle while she was detained at the Retta Dixon Home and that sounds in damages. But at some stage in her adult life, probably by the time that the last of her children had grown up, she could have started exploring the possibilities of regaining something of what she has lost. Her failure to do so does not support her claim that she suffers an ongoing sense of loss about her former Aboriginal life and culture. 1518 Mr Gunner's early childhood and his membership of the Aboriginal community at Utopia was described by Dr Morton in his report: "At the time of his removal, Peter Gunner appears to have had the normal Anmatyerr/Alyawarr competence of a young child. He initially grew up speaking Anmatyerr (his mother's family's main language) and knew no or little English at the time of his removal. He led the 'free' life typical of Aboriginal children at Utopia and spent substantial amounts of time with different relatives, as well as with his mother and her sisters and husband. He was continuously learning about bush tucker and techniques for hunting and gathering. While he was too young to know anything substantial about religious matters and dreamings, I believe that he would have had some insight into features of the landscape and their associations with spirit beings of various kinds (this being a standard feature of children's knowledge in central Australia). His sense of self would have been wholly bound to relations and identifications made with kin and the place he knew as home." 1519 Mr Skinner said, and I accept, that if Peter had stayed at Utopia, he would have been made "a young man" and Dr Morton's evidence was that this usually occurred at about thirteen years of age. Dr Morton explained the importance of initiation this way: "For men, the path towards becoming an elder begins with initiation (apwelh), the ritual process by which a boy becomes a man. It continues through further participation in ceremonial life, much of which is secret to adult males. The ritual career is essential for men's acquisition of status, power and authority in traditional terms." (footnotes omitted) 1520 I accept Dr Morton's evidence as descriptive of what Mr Gunner lost by being removed from Utopia. However, I reject Mr Gunner's claim that he is now too old to undergo the initiation process. To his credit, he is attempting to re-enter his community. It is submitted that it has been a difficult process, attended with feelings of rejection, anger and shame on his part. I think that is an excessive statement; by and large it seems to me to have been a successful start to Mr Gunner's return to his Aboriginal environment. I recognise that to take his place in the community in the fullest sense, it would entail his undergoing the initiation ceremonies. No one would make him do that; it would be his free choice, but if he elected not to do it, it would also be his choice; it would not be a future head of damages for which he would be entitled to compensation. 1521 Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner were under an obligation to mitigate their damages. Neither of them could mitigate the loss, injury and hurt that they each suffered at the time of their removal. When that occurred they, as small children, could do nothing about it. In each case it would have been a frightening experience and, if it were unlawful, then it would be worthy of a substantial award of damages. The same may be said of their detentions. There was nothing that either of them could have done to mitigate the damages that would have flowed from their detentions. They would be entitled to damages for being kept away from their families. 1522 The applicants' duty is to take all reasonable steps to mitigate his or her loss. An applicant will not recover damages for any loss which he or she could have avoided; nor will damages be recoverable if an applicant could have avoided a loss and has failed, through unreasonable action to avoid it. An objective test is to be applied to the personal circumstances of the applicant; that is, due and proper regard must be had to the applicant with all his or her abilities and disabilities when determining whether his or her conduct was reasonable. The appropriate test is whether a reasonable person, in the circumstances as they existed for the applicant, and subject to various factors such as the applicant's medical history and his or her psychiatric condition would have returned to their families sooner. Whether an applicant has acted reasonably or unreasonably in not taking steps which would operate to decrease his or her loss is a question of fact, not law, depending on the circumstances of their individual cases: British Westinghouse Electric Company Ltd v Underground Electric Railways Company Ltd [1912] AC 673 at 688-689; Payzu Ltd v Saunders [1919] 2 KB 581; and Sotiros Shipping Inc v Sameiet Solholt [1983] 1 Lloyd's Rep 605. 1523 After the cessation of their detentions, the position changed. Each has made a very strong submission that their removal and detention cost them the loss of their Aboriginality, their culture and their family. Initially that was true. But what have they done to recoup those losses? In the case of Mr Gunner, he had done quite a lot by returning to Utopia, reuniting with his family and finding a substantial degree of acceptance. But even he could have done more if it had been his wish. He knew in 1969 where to find his mother, his community and his home but he did not go back until 1991 – twenty-two years later. He complained that he is not an initiated man but the evidence has established to my satisfaction that he could undergo the initiation ceremonies if he wanted to. Yet compared to Mr Gunner, Mrs Cubillo has done nothing. Apart from the few short visits to her family she has made no attempt to gain back any part of her Aboriginality. I accept her evidence about her feelings of shock and fear when she was removed; I accept her sadness that was caused by her detention while she was at the Retta Dixon Home; I also accept that she was cruelly beaten by Mr Walter. However, I do not accept her claims with respect to her continuing losses of her Aboriginality, family, and culture. I am prepared to allow her something for them for several years as a teenager and a young adult. However, as her children grew up, she could have, if she had wanted to, started to pick up aspects of her Aboriginal past. 1524 As for Mr Gunner, I also accept his evidence about his feelings of shock and fear when he was removed; I also accept that he was the victim of some form of sexual assault by Mr Constable. As for continuing losses of his Aboriginality, his position is a little clearer than Mrs Cubillo. He knew in 1969 where to find his mother and his Aboriginal community. He was then a young unmarried man in his early twenties. No evidence was led that would explain why he did not then, or shortly thereafter, return to Utopia and his family if that was what he truly wanted. 1525 The award of general damages would include compensation for their distress and their emotional reaction; it would include their loss of their cultural heritage during their detention and during their early adult lives. In the case of Mr Gunner, those losses would commence to diminish from 1969 when he found his way back to Utopia. Mrs Cubillo's position is harder to define but, using a broad axe, I would think that she could have started a return to her culture by the time the last of her children had grown up. 1526 Both applicants would be entitled to some compensation for their loss of entitlements to be consulted as a traditional owner. I do not consider that such an award would be very great. In the first place, they would not, as children, have been entitled to participate in consultations. At some stage they would have phased into tribal maturity and from that point of time, they would have suffered a loss. However, those losses could have been mitigated in both cases if they, or either of them, had elected to return to their Aboriginal families and communities. 1527 Where the assessment of damages is undertaken by a judge sitting without a jury, the usual practice is to make a separate examination of the conventional heads of damage and to ascertain a sum appropriate to each. That serves as a starting point for an assessment of the compensation under a particular head of damage, followed by a process of discounting or deduction: c.f. the remarks of Gibbs and Stephen JJ in Sharman v Evans (1977) 13 ALR 57 at 64. However, no such exercise was undertaken by counsel in this matter. In fact, there was no evidence led on the quantification of any heads of damages save for mention that Mrs Cubillo would need ongoing medical treatment at a cost of $100 per hour. Each applicant has done no more than submit a range of global figures for past and future "pain and suffering" and a range of sums for exemplary damages. 1528 The object of the award of damages at common law is to place an applicant, whose rights have been violated, in the same position, so far as money can, as if the applicant had not suffered a violation of rights: The Argentino (1883) 13 P.D. 191. In Todorovic v Waller (1991) 150 CLR 402, Gibbs CJ and Wilson J said at 412: "Certain fundamental principles are so well established that it is unnecessary to cite authorities in support of them. In the first place, a plaintiff who has been injured by the negligence of the defendant should be awarded such a sum of money as will, as nearly as possible, put him in the same position as if he had not sustained the injuries. Secondly, damages for one cause of action must be recovered once and forever, and (in the absence of any statutory exception) must be awarded as a lump sum; the court cannot order a defendant to make periodic payments to the plaintiff. Thirdly, the court has no concern with the manner in which the plaintiff uses the sum awarded to him; the plaintiff is free to do what he likes with it. Fourthly, the burden lies on the plaintiff to prove the injury or loss for which he seeks damages." 1529 McGregor on Damages 16th Ed, London, Sweet & Maxwell 1997 contains the following statement as to the assessment of damages for false imprisonment at [1198-1199]: "The details of how the damages are worked out in false imprisonment are few: generally it is not a pecuniary loss but a loss of dignity and the like, and is left much to the jury's or judge's discretion. The principal heads of damage would appear to be the injury to liberty, i.e. the loss of time considered primarily from a non-pecuniary viewpoint, and the injury to feelings, i.e. the indignity, mental suffering, disgrace and humiliation, with any attendant loss of social status. This will all be included in the general damages which are usually awarded in these cases: no breakdown appears in the cases. In addition there may be recovery for any resultant physical injury, illness or discomfort, as where the imprisonment has a deleterious effect on the plaintiff's health. … Also damages may be given for any injury to reputation." (footnotes omitted) That statement was adopted by McDonald J in Myer Stores Ltd v Soo at 633; see also 603 per Murphy J. 1530 The assessment of damages for false imprisonment was considered in some detail by Clarke JA in Spautz v Butterworth at 12-18. Priestley and Beazley JJA agreed with Clarke JA. His Honour held that it was permissible to have regard to comparable awards of damages in other false imprisonment cases. He went on to consider the relationship between general compensatory damages for false imprisonment and aggravated damages, concluding at 17-18: "… where a plaintiff is entitled to compensatory damages for wrongful arrest or false imprisonment, it is proper for the Court, in assessing ordinary compensatory damages, to take into account the whole of the conduct of the defendant to the time of verdict which may have the effect of increasing the injury to the person's feelings. Such matters might include the absence of apology and the reaffirmation of the truth of the matters. However, for a plaintiff to be entitled to aggravated damages, he or she must show that the conduct of the defendant was neither bona fide nor justifiable." 1531 My assessment for general compensatory damages for false imprisonment would therefore compensate the applicants for the deprivation of their liberty during the years of their childhood. On the assumption that each applicant was removed by a Director of Native Affairs in an unlawful manner, their isolation from their families, the longing for home, the treatment they experienced while in the institutions are the matters that would attract an award. Considerations of humiliation and indignity most usually apparent in adults who have suffered false imprisonment would not be so apparent in the case of young children. The respondent's defence to their claims and its failure to acknowledge its wrongdoing and apologise for its conduct would be matters to be considered in the assessment of damages under this head. 1532 Counsel for the applicants submitted details of awards of damages for false imprisonment from other cases. Save for Williams v Minister [No 2] I have not found comparisons with those figures helpful. The facts of the other cases bear no resemblance to the facts of these two claims. Furthermore, when considering the quantification of the damages in terms of money, it must be remembered that Mrs Cubillo's "imprisonment" ceased in 1956 and Mr Gunner's ceased in early 1963. I would not regard the time spent by Mr Gunner at Angas Downs as compensable. The evidence revealed no more than that the Welfare Branch in Alice Springs was instrumental in finding work for him with Mr Arthur Liddle. Damages - Conclusion 1533 The applicants argued that they having been removed to an institution, the Commonwealth was under an obligation to ensure that the institutions in which the applicants were placed, properly cared for their physical and mental well being. In support of this contention the applicants relied on what Sir Paul Hasluck had said when approving the 1952 statement of policy: "Continued efforts are to be made to ensure that the children removed from their parents do, in fact, receive a full opportunity to learn to live after the European manner, and eventually to earn their living in the European community." 1534 The applicants submitted that both institutions failed to meet a standard that in any way could be described as reasonable. According to the applicants the failings in each institution were to the following effect: · the institutions were unsuitable for the proper care of children; · the physical conditions of the institutions were inadequate; · the staffing and administration of the institutions were inadequate; · the children lacked contact with their family and traditions; · corporal punishment was administered excessively; and · the children suffered from a lack of love and affection. 1535 These were all emotive issues but there was a justification for complaining about many of them. Some I have already addressed, such as the evidence from Mrs Cubillo, Mrs Katona and Mrs Hill about a lack of love and affection. I am satisfied that they felt that absence. Yet evidence of other witnesses such as Sister Johnson, Mrs Treloar, Mrs Harris and Mrs Matthews tell a different story. I cannot make a finding of legal liability against anyone based upon some of the children reacting adversely to a perceived lack of love and affection. Regrettably, that is a human failing that can be found in families as well as in institutions. Corporal punishment was inflicted in both institutions in a manner that would not be tolerated today. However, putting to one side the conduct of Mr Walter and Mr Constable, I find that the evidence of corporal punishment was insufficient to bring down findings of fault. The conditions at St Mary's Hostel were very poor throughout most of the time that Peter Gunner was there. The buildings and other improvements in both places were primitive on today's standards but they should be compared with what existed in the Territory after the war. Cynical though it may be to some, the conditions at Retta Dixon Home were preferable to those at the Phillip Creek Native Settlement and St Mary's, bad as it was, was better than life in a camp at Utopia. Mrs Kunoth-Monks made that clear, although I am conscious of the fact that she benefited from Sister Eileen's presence at the Hostel. This aspect of the applicants' claims suffered in another respect. No evidence was placed before the Court about living conditions in other hostels or institutions in Darwin or Alice Springs. Any willingness to condemn St Mary's Hostel for the state of its facilities must be tempered by the realisation that there was no other place against which it could be compared save the native camp at Utopia. In European standards, with beds and bedding, covered roofs, ablution blocks, toilets, hot water and other basics, St Mary's was better than what Peter left behind in Utopia even though St Mary's facilities were the subject of ongoing criticism by officers of the Welfare Branch. Mr Worthy, during the course of his evidence drew comparisons between the Territory's Welfare Branch and the Victorian Social Welfare Department, commenting that the Victorian body "had very strict control over both the Church and the Welfare bodies that ran the children's institutions". For my part, I do not believe that there would be any value in comparing the situation that existed in Victoria with that in the Northern Territory. Victoria was, at that time, far more advanced economically, politically and socially. A better comparison would have been one that looked at the Retta Dixon Home and St Mary's on the one hand and other comparable institutions in the Territory, the Kimberley or Northern Queensland. Those areas, at that time, would have been more appropriate sources of comparison. The evidence did not warrant a finding that the conditions at the Retta Dixon Home were inadequate or below standard. However, despite the excuses that can be found for St Mary's, I still think that it failed. 1536 In my opinion, any damages that would flow in favour of Mrs Cubillo or Mr Gunner would arise, first, from the trauma of being forcibly removed from their families and their communities in circumstances where the children did not want to leave and the children were aware that their families did not want them to leave. If, therefore, those children were taken without lawful justification then, no matter how well-meaning the Director of Native Affairs might have been, if the action was not permissible, he committed a grave wrong that would sound in damages. Furthermore, that wrong would have been compounded many times over by the ongoing unlawful detention of the children. It would however, have been, principally, the act of detention that would have caused the children's ongoing loss. I do not believe that the conditions of the premises in which they were detained would have played a great part in their loss. Their sense of loss was based on deprivation: they were deprived of their family, their community and their culture. Whether they were detained in reasonable or unreasonable conditions would have been of minimal importance when compared with the act of detention. If it be accepted, as the applicants claimed, that they suffered a loss of great dimensions by being removed and detained, it is, I think, reasonable to assume that no amount of love and affection would have adequately compensated them for their losses. It is in that context that I tend to think that the conditions of the institutions do not play a great part in the calculation of their losses. 1537 The evidence has demonstrated that Mrs Cubillo will not recover from her injuries; those injuries may, from time to time, require treatment or counselling. I accept that Mrs Cubillo presented as a stoic woman, a woman who bears pain and injury internally with little complaint. However, that stoicism and lack of complaint do not reduce the significance of her injury and her pain nor do they reduce the extent of her damages. Those injuries and losses that she has suffered and will continue to suffer flow back to her removal and detention. I do not consider that their quantification will be dependent on the identification of the cause of action that might be found to exist in her favour. I believe that this observation applies with equal force to Mr Gunner. 1538 I have made findings of fact in the case of Mrs Cubillo to the effect that the Director of Native Affairs played a part of significance in her removal from Phillip Creek and her subsequent detention at the Retta Dixon Home. However, I have made a finding of law that it was within the power of the Director to so remove and detain her if "in his opinion, it [was] necessary or desirable in the interests of [Mrs Cubillo] for him to so do": see subs 6(1) of the Aboriginals Ordinance. I have then made a finding of fact that the evidence does not reveal whether the Director formed any opinion about Mrs Cubillo at all. There was no evidence about the extent of the knowledge of the Native Affairs Branch about the part Aboriginal children at Phillip Creek. To make a finding in favour of Mrs Cubillo, I would have to assume either that the Director made a decision that Lorna would be removed without having applied his mind to the reason for her removal, or that he formed an impermissible opinion as to why she should be removed and detained. Another possibility is that I would have to accept the submission that was advanced by Mrs Cubillo's counsel to the effect that any opinion that the Director might have formed was so unreasonable that no reasonable person would have formed it. 1539 There was an onus on Mrs Cubillo to prove either that the Director did not form an opinion as required by subs 6(1) or that any opinion that he did form was not one that was in her interest; save for the question of false imprisonment, there was no obligation on the Commonwealth to prove that the Director did form a lawful opinion. Mrs Cubillo did not satisfy that onus. So much time has passed, so many people have died, so many documents are missing that it is not now possible to know what motivated the Director of Native Affairs to participate in the removal and detention of Lorna and the children from Phillip Creek. 1540 The medical diagnoses of Mr Gunner are so similar to that of Mrs Cubillo that I feel that it is sufficient to say that, prima facie, his entitlement to damages is much the same as Mrs Cubillo's. There are differences of course; he is several years younger and he has commenced a successful return to his tribal community. Although he suffered severely at the hands of Mr Constable, he did not, I feel, suffer to the same extent as Mrs Cubillo. However, the checks and balances are such that I find it difficult to distinguish their end entitlements save in one important area. Any award to which Mrs Cubillo would be entitled would have to reflect, against her interests, her total failure to make any attempt to return to her Aboriginal lifestyle. The opportunity for her to do that has been available to her as it was available to Mr Gunner. He chose to grasp the opportunity; Mrs Cubillo has failed to do so. 1541 In determining the awards of damages, I consider that account must be taken of the fact that neither applicant has, at any time, sought treatment for her or his injuries. The only occasions on which medical advice has been sought were in relation to the provision of medico-legal opinions for the purpose of pursuing their claims against the Commonwealth. The applicants have taken no steps to mitigate their losses by seeking medical assistance; in so far as they might claim that they did not know that they each had a psychiatric condition until informed of that fact in late 1996, their lack of knowledge cannot be blamed on the Commonwealth. As to their conduct consequential upon being told that they had a psychiatric condition, neither led evidence of seeking medical treatment in the interval prior to trial and neither gave evidence that it is likely that she or he would seek such treatment in the future. 1542 Since returning to Utopia in 1991, Mr Gunner has regularly attended the Urapuntja Health Service. His extensive records from the Health Service were tendered in evidence: Ex A31. They contain nothing that points to him having sought medical treatment with respect to the psychiatric injuries that were first diagnosed in 1996 and Mr Gunner did not suggest that he has undertaken any medical treatment in an attempt to ameliorate his injuries. 1543 In coming to my assessment of the likely damages that might have been awarded to the applicants, the question arose whether there should be an off-set for the benefits that may have flowed to each of the applicants as a result of their separation from their tribal backgrounds. It might be thought that both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner have acquired attributes or talents or benefits that they would not – or might not – have acquired but for their removals and detentions. They may not have wanted those talents; indeed many of them, such as mundane and routine matters like language, dress, hygiene and etiquette, were forced on them. But the fact remains that, as members of the larger Australia-wide society, it could be said that they have attributes that they would not otherwise have had. There is nothing usual in that situation; after all many a person might complain that education, or some aspect of it, was forced on him or her in childhood. But few, as adults, would complain about the benefits of the education that they received against their will. Furthermore, the applicants have used those attributes – Mrs Cubillo advanced herself in the workforce to a point where she was able to embark on university studies. Mr Gunner was able to assist his fellow Aboriginal and part Aboriginal people by working in legal aid and, later, by taking on the Chairmanship of his local Aboriginal community. The question then is whether their damages should be reduced by giving some recognition to the fact that each of them, in varying degrees, picked up skills and knowledge that were of value to them in later life – skills and knowledge that would not otherwise have been acquired to the same extent if they had remained members of their tribal groups. Each learnt to speak English, albeit that the price that they paid was to lose their native tongue. Each received schooling: Mrs Cubillo profiting more than Mr Gunner. Each was able to enter the European workforce and earn money: again Mrs Cubillo being the more successful of the two. Should the acquisition of those skills be ignored or should they be taken into account when assessing their damages. As this issue was not addressed by either counsel, I will do no more than say that I have made no deduction for any such collateral benefit. In coming to that decision I had regard to the decision of the High Court in National Insurance Co of New Zealand Ltd v Espagne (1961) 105 CLR 569 where the value to an injured plaintiff of an invalid person was disregarded in the calculation of his damages. That decision was followed by the South Australian Full Court in Lee v Redding (1981) 28 SASR 372: affirmed on appeal Redding v Lee (1983) 151 CLR 117. 1544 A further complicating factor is the need to determine what it is that the applicants have lost. For example, the sisters Napanangka and the sisters Napurrula were presented as Aboriginal women who still follow an Aboriginal lifestyle and participate in Aboriginal culture. I accept that presentation as a substantially accurate presentation of the personal circumstances of those four witnesses. But it is not totally accurate because, as part of an evolutionary process, those women, and no doubt, countless others like them, have taken up and embraced some aspects of western culture. Some of them live in conventional houses in Tennant Creek, Eileen Napanangka teaches Aboriginal culture in a western style school; Lena Pula has travelled the world as a result of her batik artistry. The evidence in this trial did not disclose whether tribal life, in its pure and original form, continues to exist. 1545 The awards of damages to which either of the applicants might have been entitled can only be assessed on a broad axe premise. The applicants merely advanced a global sum. No claims for past or future special damages were made; no claims for past or future care were made. Abadee J thought that a figure of $50,000 would have been an appropriate amount for general damages in Williams v Minister [No 2]. However, that was a case where the child had been placed in care at the request of her mother. My assessments must be based on non-consensual removals. I would have allowed Mrs Cubillo an amount of $110,000 and Mr Gunner the sum of $125,000. 1546 An award of damages, although reflecting the conduct that justified the award, is to be computed in terms of money values at the date of judgment. Although a successful applicant might well expect to receive an entitlement to interest on top of any award, it must be remembered that the circumstances of the two applicants are most unusual. The conduct of which they complained started in 1947 and 1956 respectively. In the case of Mrs Cubillo it ceased in 1956; Mr Gunner's ceased in early 1963. Hence the greatest part of their pre-trial detriment was suffered before their writs were filed in October 1996. It would be within my power to date the commencement of interest back to the date of the occurrence of the relevant events but I see no reason to burden the Commonwealth because of the applicants' delays. If interest dated from the occurrence there would be a need to reduce substantially the amount of interest to take into account the fact that the applicants' detriments would have been suffered progressively. However, where, as here, interest is allowed only from the dates of the issues of the writs, and the greater part of the detriments were sustained prior to that date, there is no sound basis for making that sort of deduction. I would allow Mrs Cubillo a lump sum of $16,800 for interest; that sum has been based on a calculation at the rate of 4 per cent for a period of a little less than four years. For Mr Gunner, the figure for interest, calculated in the same manner would be $19,100. 1547 On this basis I would have calculated Mrs Cubillo's notional damages at $126,800 and Mr Gunner's at $144,100. Exemplary Damages 1548 In written submissions, counsel for the applicants stated: "It was recognised by senior counsel for the Commonwealth that if the Court were to find false imprisonment then the Court would make a substantial award of damages and that there would be no reason why there would not be an award for exemplary damages in those circumstances." That statement did not accurately record what counsel for the Commonwealth had said during the course of his oral submissions. The thrust of counsel's concession was limited to making allowance for an adverse finding that the Commonwealth had acted pursuant to some arbitrary, uncaring policy. The substance of what counsel for the Commonwealth said was as follows: "If you were satisfied that there was false imprisonment … pursuant to a policy of the Commonwealth described as they describe it … that would amount to a substantial award of damages … It is an award of damages which would probably include exemplary damages." 1549 The object of exemplary damages is punishment and deterrence. They should not be awarded where they do not serve that purpose: Halsbury's Laws of Australia Vol 9 par [135-495] and the authorities referred to therein. There is no jurisdiction to award exemplary damages in equity: Hospital Products Ltd v United States Surgical Corporation at 109. Such an award may only be made at common law, and then, only in the torts of false imprisonment and negligence. 1550 In pursuing their claim for exemplary damages the applicants have submitted that an award would be justified where the conduct of the Commonwealth, or, the conduct for which the Commonwealth was liable, was arrogant or disgraceful or where a person has been treated with a contumelious disregard for that person's welfare or rights. However, as I have already indicated, I reject any submission that the impugned conduct can be so described. 1551 The expression "contumelious disregard" comes from the judgment of Knox CJ in Whitfeld v De Lauret & Co Ltd (1920) 29 CLR 71 where his Honour referred to "conscious wrong doing in contumelious disregard of another's right" as the basis for an award for exemplary damages: at 77. Brennan J explained the purpose of any award for exemplary damages in XL Petroleum (NSW) Pty Ltd v Caltex Oil (Australia) Pty Ltd (1984) 155 CLR 448 at 471 saying: "As an award of exemplary damages is intended to punish the defendant for conduct showing a conscious and contumelious disregard for the plaintiff's rights and to deter him from committing like conduct again, the considerations that enter into the assessment of exemplary damages are quite different from considerations that govern the assessment of compensatory damages. There is no necessary proportionality between the assessment of the two categories. In Merest v Harvey (128 ER 761) substantial exemplary damages were awarded for a trespass of a high-handed kind which occasioned minimal damage. Gibbs CJ saying: 'I wish to know, in a case where a man disregards every principle which actuates the conduct of gentlemen, what is to restrain him except large damages?'" 1552 The expression, "contumelious disregard", was used by the High Court in Gray v Motor Accident Commission (1998) 196 CLR 1 (per Gleeson CJ, McHugh, Gummow and Hayne JJ) to describe "at least the greater part of the relevant field": at 7. The appellant, Gray, was seriously injured when he was struck by a car that had been driven at him deliberately by a man called Bransden. Bransden was convicted of causing grievous bodily harm with intent to cause grievous bodily harm to Gray and was sentenced to seven years' imprisonment. The sentencing judge described the attack as "brutal and cowardly" and one for which there was "no mitigating factor at all". Gray sued Bransden's third party insurer claiming damages for personal injuries caused by Bransden's negligence. The trial judge awarded Gray damages, but he declined to make an award of exemplary damages on the ground that Bransden had already been punished in the Criminal Court. Gray appealed unsuccessfully to the Full Court of the Supreme Court of South Australia and thereafter, by special leave, to the High Court. The High Court allowed the appeal on the ground that the award of general damages was manifestly inadequate but declined to allow anything for exemplary damages; it concluded that the purpose for awarding exemplary damages had been wholly met by the substantial punishment that was imposed in the Criminal Court. 1553 Gleeson CJ, McHugh, Gummow and Hayne JJ said at 7: "[15] In considering whether to award exemplary damages, the first, if not the principal, focus of the inquiry is upon the wrongdoer, not upon the party who was wronged. (The reaction of the party who is wronged to high-handed or deliberate conduct may well be a reason for awarding aggravated damages in further compensation for the wrong done. But it is not ordinarily relevant to whether exemplary damages should be allowed.) The party wronged is entitled to whatever compensatory damages the law allows (including, if appropriate, aggravated damages). By hypothesis then, the party wronged will receive just compensation for the wrong that is suffered. If exemplary damages are awarded, they will be paid in addition to compensatory damages and, in that sense, will be a windfall in the hands of the party who was wronged. Nevertheless, they are awarded at the suit of that party and, although awarded to punish the wrongdoer and deter others from like conduct, they are not exacted by the State or paid to it." The High Court emphasised the exceptional nature of the remedy and the difficulty of allowing it where mere negligence is the issue at 9-10: "[20] If, as we have earlier suggested, the remedy is exceptional in the sense that it arises (chiefly, if not exclusively) in cases of conscious wrongdoing in contumelious disregard of the plaintiff's rights, at least two further questions arise: are exemplary damages available where the plaintiff's claim is for damages for negligence rather than some intentional wrong, and is the award of exemplary damages a matter of right or does it depend on the exercise of a discretion informed by some identifiable criteria? … [21] Provoked by differing limitation periods for claims for damages for personal injury caused by negligence and other torts, there was a deal of debate in the 1960s about whether trespass to the person could be committed negligently. [22] We do not think it necessary to revisit that debate. No question arises here of an intentional wrong being committed by inadvertence. For present purposes it is enough to note two things. First, exemplary damages could not properly be awarded in a case of alleged negligence in which there was no conscious wrongdoing by the defendant. Ordinarily, then, questions of exemplary damages will not arise in most negligence cases be they motor accident or other kinds of case. But there can be cases, framed in negligence, in which the defendant can be shown to have acted consciously in contumelious disregard of the rights of the plaintiff or persons in the position of the plaintiff. Cases of an employer's failure to provide a safe system of work for employees in which it is demonstrated that the employer, well knowing of an extreme danger thus created, persisted in employing the unsafe system might, perhaps, be of that latter kind. No doubt other examples can be found. … [24] Secondly, the present proceeding, although said to have been framed as an action in negligence, appears to have been conducted at trial as if it were a claim in trespass. The allegation made in the appellant's statement of claim, and pursued at trial, was that Bransden drove his vehicle 'deliberately towards [the appellant] without regard for the safety of [the appellant]' and such evidence of the events as was given at trial was all directed to showing Bransden deliberately inflicted injury on the appellant. Whatever may be the true characterisation of the pleading, the case was conducted as one of conscious wrongdoing by the tortfeasor." (footnotes omitted) 1554 It is not sufficient for a court merely to disapprove of the conduct: exemplary damages should be awarded only for "the more flagrant instances of conscious wrongdoing": Australian Consolidated Press Ltd v Uren (1966) 117 CLR 185 at 212 per Windeyer J. A court should display restraint and moderation before making such an award: XL Petroleum (NSW) Pty Ltd v Caltex Oil (Australia) Pty Ltd at 463 per Gibbs CJ, at 464 per Mason J, and at 465 per Wilson J. 1555 Even if, on appeal, it be found that the Commonwealth is liable to either one or both of the applicants for damages for any cause of action, I do not consider that either applicant has made out a case for exemplary damages. 1556 Each further amended statement of claim also referred to a claim for aggravated damages. I do not consider that the facts of these two cases would justify such an award. If it were to be found, contrary to the findings that I have made, that a cause of action exists giving rise to an award of damages, the most that could be said against the Commonwealth or the Directors was that there had been failures to act within the strict parameters of the legislation. It could not be said, on the evidence that was adduced in these proceedings, that either removal was motivated by ill-will or by disregard for the welfare or the interests of the child. 1557 Counsel for Mrs Cubillo claimed that the Commonwealth's conduct in removing her from Phillip Creek was inhumane but that submission failed to recognise that Mrs Cubillo and the Commonwealth were unable to lead any evidence that would explain the purpose or the motive or the intention of the Director in removing her. Although in an assessment for damage for false imprisonment, due regard must be had to the sufferings of the victim, the purpose of the award is punishment of the defendant for its conduct. It is, then, always necessary to make findings of fact about that conduct. Mrs Cubillo was, in effect, asking the Court to impute improper motives to the Commonwealth. That I am not prepared to do. Mr Gunner's position is no different; I am not prepared to impute improper motives to the Commonwealth. 1558 The applicants have abandoned any allegation that the policy of the Commonwealth was not authorised by the Ordinances. It cannot therefore be said that the Commonwealth was, by the formulation of its policy, engaged in a conscious wrongdoing, in contumelious disregard of the applicants' rights; since the policy was in accordance with the law, there was no wrongdoing in its formulation – or, as the Commonwealth submitted, the applicants had no right to be left free of interference. The applicants only argued that it was the implementation of that policy that led to the unlawful results. That meant that the applicants not only have to prove that those responsible for the implementation of the policy acted in contumelious disregard of the applicants' rights, they must also prove, either that the Commonwealth is vicariously liable for that conduct or that the Commonwealth required or permitted those responsible to implement its policy in an impermissible way. 1559 As to the question of the implementation of the policy, the applicants faced the hurdles that have already been identified: in Mrs Cubillo's case there was no evidence about the motives, purposes or intents of those involved in her removal and detention; in the case of Mr Gunner, the available evidence suggested that personal and benign consideration for his interests were considered. I cannot see any substance in any claim for an award of exemplary damages or aggravated damages. Conclusion 1560 The evidence that I have heard throughout this trial from the witnesses who were called by the Commonwealth has established to my satisfaction that there was a school of thought prevailing at the times that are relevant to the claims of Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner. At the forefront of that school of thought was the belief that it was in the best interests of part Aboriginal children to assimilate them into the European mainstream and that the best way to do that was through a western style education. In pursuing that school of thought, those who were in authority concerned themselves only with the fact that the child was part white. Having made the decision to remove the child, there was a total disregard of the fact that the child was also part Aboriginal, of the fact that the child's mother or family with whom the child was living was or were Aboriginal and of the fact that the child had been brought up only aware of Aboriginal culture and unaware of European culture. That was where those in authority stand condemned on today's standards. Today most Australians realise that the Aboriginal people have a rich and diverse culture that is to be encouraged and preserved. However, the writings that were tendered in the trial and the oral evidence showed that such thinking was not the mainstream thinking of people in earlier times. 1561 The evidence showed that there were people in the 1940s and 1950s who cared for the Aboriginal people. I select, but only as examples of the people I have in mind, the witnesses Sister Eileen Heath and Mr Creed Lovegrove. However, their concern did not extend to the recognition of the Aboriginal culture and lifestyle; it was devoted to western style welfare or religious issues and issues of concern for the physical or spiritual well-being of the people. That form of paternalism is not accepted today but it was accepted in the 1940s and the 1950s by many people and in particular by those who administered the Native Affairs Branch and the Welfare Branch in the Northern Territory in the period that covered the institutionalisation of both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner. 1562 I have great sympathy for Mrs Cubillo, for Mr Gunner and for others who, like them, suffered so severely as a result of the actions of many men and women who thought of themselves as well-meaning and well intentioned but who today would be characterised by many as badly misguided politicians and bureaucrats. Those people thought that they were acting in the best interests of the child. Subsequent events have shown that they were wrong. However, it is possible that they were acting pursuant to statutory powers or, perhaps in these two claims, it would be more accurate to say that the applicants have not proved that they acted beyond their powers. 1563 I am satisfied that the applicants in these proceedings have suffered the psychiatric illnesses that they have pleaded in their respective further amended statements of claim. For them to succeed against the Commonwealth, it would be necessary to prove actionable negligence or breach of some other duty; they could only do that by proving the commission of operational acts or omissions that were done negligently by the servants of the Commonwealth in the course of carrying out a policy decision that the Commonwealth had taken in relation to each applicant. The view that I have reached in respect of both Mrs Cubillo and Mr Gunner, is that their damages have flowed from the policy decisions – and those decisions are not actionable because it has not been shown that they were carried out within the ambit of the legislation. It was the removal and detention as distinct from the manner of the removal and the manner of the detention that were the causes of the injuries that each of them suffered. Although it is not an absolute test, a pure policy decision where Parliament has entrusted the decision to a public authority is not something a Court would normally be expected to review: Barrett at 211 per Lord Slynn. 1564 I reject any suggestion that either applicant is looking for a pot of litigation gold. I am satisfied that they have pursued their claims against the Commonwealth because they were advised by their advisers that they had claims that were justifiable. I have criticised many areas of Mrs Cubillo's evidence and some areas of Mr Gunner's but I accept the main thrust of their evidence about the hurt they suffered as a result of their removal and detention. However, at the end of the day I remain satisfied that the Commonwealth of Australia is not obliged, as a matter of fact and law to compensate them for their losses. 1565 Each of the claims that have been made by Mrs Cubillo and by Mr Gunner must be dismissed. I will hear the parties on any question of costs. SCHEDULE The alleged breaches by the Commonwealth of its fiduciary duties as set out in par 36D of Mrs Cubillo's further amended statement of claim: In removing and detaining the Applicant, the Respondent acted in breach of the fiduciary duties owed to the Applicant. Particulars of Breach of Fiduciary Duty (a) Failing to have regard to, and to act in, the best interests of the Applicant by failing to take into account her individual circumstances and in particular her relationship with her mother, family and community. (b) Acting in accordance with a policy of removal and detention of half caste children the purpose of which was to: (i) destroy the associations and connections of the Applicant with her Aboriginal mother, family and culture; (ii) assimilate half caste children, including the Applicant, into non-Aboriginal society; (iii) provide domestic and manual labour for the European community of the Northern Territory; and (iv) breed out "half caste" Aboriginal people and protect the primacy of the Anglo-Saxon community, without regard to the Applicant's particular circumstances. (c) Failing to ensure that the role and duties of guardian of the Applicant were fulfilled while she was detained in an institution, having regard to her particular needs and interests, and to the capacity of the Respondent to review and consider those needs and interests; (d) failing to supervise the institutions properly or at all in the performance of their obligations to the Applicant. (e) Permitting the institution in which the Applicant was detained to maltreat her and to treat her in a cruel demeaning and degrading manner. (f) Depriving the Applicant of her family, cultural and spiritual heritage, and in particular: (i) causing the Applicant fear, anxiety, profound emotional distress, and psychological harm by forcibly removing her from her mother and family; (ii) causing the Applicant fear, anxiety, profound emotional distress, and psychological harm by detaining her and keeping her from contact or communication with her mother and family; (iii) depriving the Applicant of contact and meaningful relationship with her Aboriginal family, kin, home, land, culture, religion and heritage; (iv) requiring the Applicant to cease speaking her Aboriginal language and to lose the knowledge of, and the ability to speak, and to understand, that language; (v) depriving the Applicant of knowledge of the system of spiritual beliefs held by her Aboriginal mother and family; (vi) depriving the Applicant of knowledge of the traditional land of her Aboriginal mother and family, including knowledge of the sites on that land, the names of those sites, the location of the sites, the spiritual significance of the sites, the mythology associated with the sites, and the behaviour appropriate at the sites; (vii) depriving the Applicant of the opportunity to be initiated into the relevant Aboriginal community and to be accepted as a full and responsible member of that community; (viii) depriving the Applicant of the opportunity, qualifications and ability to participate in the spiritual life of her Aboriginal family, including participation in ceremonial life and other ritual practice, and the pleasure and sense of self-esteem associated with such participation; (ix) depriving the Applicant of the knowledge of the songs, dance, designs, and stories of her Aboriginal family, including the songs, dance, and stories associated with her traditional land; (x) depriving the Applicant of the opportunity of growing up on her traditional land, and of acquiring the knowledge of plants, animals and geography achieved by growing up on the land in the company of her mother and family; (xi) having a destructive influence on the Applicant's sense of self; (xii) treating the Applicant in such a manner as to impede or render it impossible for her to form satisfactory relationships with her mother and family; (xiii) failing to release the Applicant from the care custody and control of the Respondent when required by law to do so, or as soon as possible in the best interests of the Applicant. (g) Failing to have any or any proper system to enable the Applicant and her mother to maintain contact with each other following the removal and detention of the Applicant. (h) Failing to maintain any or proper system of records in respect of the Applicant to enable the Applicant and her mother to maintain contact with each other following the removal and detention of the Applicant. (i) Causing the Applicant, fear, anxiety, grief, profound mental and emotional distress and anguish, and psychological harm, by reason of the matters set out in sub-paragraphs (a) to (h) herein. (j) Failing to make reasonable attempts to ensure that the Applicant would enjoy equal opportunity compared to non-aboriginal children in the society which the Respondent intended the Applicant to become a part of, being the non-aboriginal community of Australia. (k) Failing to advise the Applicant of her rights in respect of leaving the care, custody and control of the Respondent and returning to her mother; (l) Failing to advise the Applicant that she should obtain independent advice and to provide such resources as would enable her to obtain that advice. See also par 57D of Mr Gunner's further amended statement of claim. I certify that the preceding one thousand five hundred and sixty-five (1565) numbered paragraphs are a true copy of the Reasons for Judgment herein of the Honourable Justice O'Loughlin. Associate: Dated: 11 August 2000 Counsel for the Applicant: Mr TJ Rush QC With him Mr MA Dreyfus QC and Ms M Richards Solicitor for the Applicant: Holding Redlich (as agents for Northern Australian Aboriginal Legal Aid Service) Counsel for the Respondent: Mr DR Meagher QC With him Ms EJ Hollingworth, Dr MA Perry and Ms C Beaton-Wells Solicitor for the Respondent: Australian Government Solicitor Date of Hearing: 3-4, 6-7 August 1998; 1-4 March 1999; 10-13, 16-19, 23‑24, 26-27, 30-31 August 1999; 1-2, 6-10, 13-15, 21-24, 27-30, September 1999, 1, 4-5, 18-22, 25-28 October 1999; 1-5, 8-12, 15-18, 22-26 November 1999; 21-25 February 2000 and 6-10, 13-17, 20, 22-24, 27-31 March 2000. Last of the written submissions received 10 May 2000 Date of Judgment: 11 August 2000